Fin vs History - The Oi-Vey Team | The Eichmann Trial: Mossad Capture (Part 3/4)

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

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Welcome back to Finn versus History. As ever, I'm joined by Horatio Gould. I'm not a Nazi, I'm Riccardo. A man who's just following orders. And is a cog in the machine. And today we are in part three of our epic Adolf Eichmann double series the fortnight series

we're stretching out two weeks of Eichmann two weeks of Nazi filth for you pigs you lucky hogs you love it where were we last episode

I left off I started off in the in the break between these episodes I'm now referring to going for a shit as going to convict a war criminal

after what Charlie's Charlie termed as the requisite punishment for Holocaust perpetrators we had a big lunch we all got double

chicken big lunch big poo big lunch back for part three we're in Buenos Aires and Adolf Eichmann the Peter Pan of the Nazis he refuses to grow up

he refuses to grow up and take his punishment he's gone to Buenos Aires he's called himself Ricardo and he's sucking off gauchos all over town Goochos Gochos he calls them

gobble gobble gobble guchho he's yeah where we left off so obviously naughty naughty Eichmann escapes to South America down the rat lines

like many Nazis and then he has three big burly Nazi boys who have not been chained for their heritage whatsoever because there's no one to chain them because everyone's like yeah we all we bloody hate Jews as well and then somehow a Jewish girl living in Argentina whose father is a Holocaust survivor

starts dating Klaus one of the big meat heads don't really know how that works but I think they're both kind of undercover one's undercover as Jewish and one's undercover as a Nazi Yeah It's like I saw Romeo and Julia

A modern day Star Cross lovers If I was doing a sort of Baz Luhrmann reinterpretation Of that film now I'd do it Argentina yeah I'd do Argentina

And there's a And the Eichmann plots Happening down Yeah yeah In the background And so they both Yeah One of them is Eichmann's son

And the other one Who's a Jewish girl And they are in love They're fully in love And then they find out They find out where their parents are And it's like Well should we carry on this love

To spite Well they'd have the big breakdown before the third act and then they'd be a part where they'd realize you know what's more important love. And then they'd get to the altar

and then she'd kill herself and he'd be like ha great. I'm striking again. One more. One more to the list. Carrying on is my father's work. But anyway.

It's different story. They're dating and then he would often brag that his uncle... His Tinder settings must have been a bit off. Yes, I think so. The no Jew filter on the old bumble.

It was still the early prototype. Yeah, it was prototypes of it. They hadn't refined it. And he keeps bragging that his uncle killed lots of Jews. So this is the 50s, can you place this for the dumb dumps? Right.

So what's the, is this around 1950s? Right. So this is after the invention of McDonald's. McDonald's is in Buenos Aires. Is there, is there an... I don't know who's made to Buenos Aires, but it's in America. McDonald's is in America.

Just, can we check that? Because I think it's going to be tight. Charlie of almost McDonald's invented. And... 1940. JFK cheats on Jackie Kennedy for the first time? First time. Tight.

When does he marry Jackie Kennedy? Keep going tight. Insecure? Tight, tight, Jackie Kennedy. Well, it's impossible to pinpoint a definitive first instance. Rumors and reports suggest that John Kennedy had multiple affairs during his marriage Jack Kennedy with some accounts dating out to the late 50s. You may have smashed it.

You may have smashed it. I've played it tight here. But it's unclear. it's not they're not too clear dates McDonald's is a thing Eichmann's stopping off what do you reckon chicken nuggets

yeah he's a nugget guy I don't think he's taking What you chlorinate your chicken Well I here's something else you can chlorinate How do you cook How do you cook to beef? And how quickly is this done?

Yes yeah how quickly is the line From start to finish Very impressive Too fair he would have been great Working at McDonald's He would have been a brilliant organiser of McDonald's kitchen. I imagine he just walks in,

you know how, you know, those Italian things called like, what are they called umberto's? No, the men who,

the old men who stand with their arms behind the back, standing in construction. Umorele. Umorale. Yeah. I imagine Eichmann is an umorail

in a McDonald's kitchen just hands behind his back just going, well, we're moving that and how fast it takes together first, very impressive. I could make it quicko,

but I've got a spreadsheet. Crazy. Italian culture is so crazy that you can have a word for that. A word, basically he's a construction cuck in that it's an old man who's retired who watches construction workers

and give us unsolicited, unfounded advice. That's awesome. It's amazing. It's so many of them. It's a cultural phenomenon. It's the Italian man standing looking going, I reckon you want to put that over there. And none of them, none of them

have got anything to do with construction at all. It's amazing. When people are saying that, you know, fundamentally there's no difference between men and women. Like, women aren't doing this. Women are not doing this. Then you want to... I think you want to move that around over there,

Are you sure that hole's big enough? What drill bit are you using? That's a male thing. But I imagine, in my head, Eichmann's in Argentina, because he's hiding his identity, right? He's Ricardo, and, you know, he's going to drag shows. He's found a new, you know, a whole new discovery, a whole new part of himself.

Face full of Gucho. He's face full of balls every night. But I imagine he's, you know, part of him is obviously still, like, I was king of logistics. I am responsible for one of, in his words, one of the greatest engineering feats. His words. His words.

Strong, I must stress, they're his words. I disagree with him. Yeah. But he would say this is brilliant, this is the best thing ever. He would say, what a few of logistics I've done? I wouldn't, but he would.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say it was a war crime. It was a genocide. But, you know, every, there's two sides to every story. There is two sides of every story. One man's holocaust is another man's logistical success. Carnival.

Yeah. It's Brazilian carnival. I say Holocaust. You say Amazon Prime. Whatever. Anyway, so Ricardo is, he's running riot in Buenos Aires

having a lovely time and this is the James Bond period of the story right because it's a tiny little bit of information and it's so cinematic all of operation finale

but it's that tiny information this Jewish girl goes over to her boyfriend's house and to see this uncle and then the boyfriend calls him dad and she starts saying he kind of looks like this picture

of Eichmann and then she feeds that back to her Holocaust survivor father who feeds it back to a guy working in the West German government who don't really give a fuck. No, because there's still Nazis in the West German government.

Yeah, because, yeah. Yeah. And there's former Nazis that have been employed by the CIA to subal ages. But what Bauer does, Bauer really is the one driving this home. He goes to Mossad.

So Mossad for the Dumbs, that's the Israeli Secret Service. It's a very sort of nascent organization at this point. And we should do, I suppose, we'll do a very thorough and, you know, controversial series on the foundation of Israel, I would maybe call it definitive.

We'll do a definitive take on Israel. Comprehensive. Do you know what? We'll see how this series goes and then maybe give it a bit and then do that. But, you know, short history, 1948 the Israelis basically, well, the Jews in the British mandate of Palestine, kick off. They announce the state of Israel and then almost immediately the Arabs invade from Jordan and they kicks off a war with the Brits and the various Arab countries and Israel fights them off and is kind of founded in their head as kind of like this heroic struggle to create their much longed-for homeland. And a big part of Israel because I think the stereotypes about Jewish people

is often based on American – certain stereotypes are based on like American Jews like Woody Allen, that sort of thing. The kind of comedy ride to that. Oh, God, I'm going to the doctor, you know, that sort of thing. but literally actively when Israel is being founded they want to change that stereotype that's why the kind of Israeli in many ways like the British compared to the whites of Africans totally totally they're the same people as us but they're just that there's a it's cut from it's a different it's a very different flavor of white Brit well I'd say that you've got you know what the fuck are you doing in my backyard exactly I'd say that if you wanted to create a sort of like you know a maths but for men yeah a reality show for men I'd say get all the settler colonial list in a room and see who wins. I think I've got my money on the South Africans, Northern Irish, the Israelis, Australians.

Yeah, I think it's down, yeah, right at the end, it's Northern Irish versus white South Africans. Do you think? Yeah. Well, just the harshest the accent, you know. I don't think that's very funny. I don't think that's funny. I don't think you're funny either.

Do you offend? There's that kind of Indian. There's too many accents going on there. A northern Irish person talking to a white South African is very hard to, yeah, it's very hush. No, it's not, I'm racist. I just don't like black people. That was Birmingham.

I'm not racist. I just don't like black people. I come from the same place, then he has. I'm not racist. Just because I come from the black country, doesn't mean. Doesn't mean I don't. No, no. Anyway.

Anyway, what we're saying? We're talking about the Starvation of Israel. They're like, we're going to go beast mode. We're stick of being seen as these sort of like, you know. Schmucks. Schmucks, you know, or like kind of using our brains, but not physically, you know. And to be fair to them, they bloody do it. because they're tough cookies

for whatever you you know it's controversial what to say about them but one thing you can not say is that they aren't tough as hell they plant the flag and they've stayed though fair play you know what I'm quite interesting what I don't really understand about this period is that they've gone they obviously been decimated by the Holocaust

ah no but see that's a bit of a misnomer in the 50s in the 60s didn't happen your words your words we should say for balance we should say for balance it is still contested on this podcast we believe it did happened and we're talking as if it did

which it did but obviously in the interests of balance there are people who deny this you know let us know in the comments I'm sure you will I'm sure you will

those people don't seem to keep that to themselves no famously denial in the 50s and 60s only one and it is I guess it's still quite a large proportion but one in four Israelis of Holocaust survivors

which when you think about it um there's loads of people in israel the majority who aren't holocaust survivors they've got they're not you know you're calling them freeloaders no i'm saying i'm saying that we'll get to this in the next episode when you talk about the trial but there's an attitude of like what do you mean fucking what you walked into a camp what the fuck you're about i just wouldn't have done that there's oh from really from Israelis that's how hard they are is that they view the european ex the holocaust who've moved there they're like what do you mean what you mean holocaust you're fucking idiots why did you do that I wouldn't have done that

I wouldn't have walked in there What are you wearing kind of thing They're totally what are you wearing them Yeah And it's the Eichmann trial That actually changes that Right It's only really in the sixes

They start to actually Absorb the Holocaust Into their national memory At this point They're kind of like Ignoring it Because they've also There's Arab nationalism

There's NASA There's you know NASA is in the kernel Not the space agency Right yeah There's a lot of Jewish people Jewish Germans There's a lot of Nazis

working in NASA That's the thing Are there? That's the big thing is that a lot of the escape... Hitler's in space? That's one of the theories. But NASA, because the best scientists were Nazis at the time,

they were leading a lot of... There's a lot of controversial things about some quite controversial scientists being nabbed by NASA. Well, this is actually part of the reason the hunt for Eichmann fades away in the 50s is that the Americans in the late 40s, they're basically more concerned about grabbing Nazi scientists for the oncoming Cold War

and the nuclear standoff than they are about war criminals. So they want the scientists to kind of work for them. Right. Then they do. It's like a yard sale of the third right. Yeah, it's like a, fire sale. Yeah,

we've got like a really qualified eugenicist, uh, doctor scientist. Yeah. I guess if you put them on rockets, it'd probably do a good job. Just don't speak to them in the cafeteria. And then Ikeman's like the last guy to be picked up football.

Like I do the logistics and the train. Like, oh, who cares? Fuck off. Nerd. Um, so Mossad is a nascent agency. And the head of it at this point is a guy called,

uh, Issa Harel and, uh, all these guys. in Mossad, they've been forged. They're kind of, they're like heroes of 48, right? Because 48 is the big, that's like their

founding, that's the founding myth. That's like their World War II. Israeli dads are talking about 48, right? So I think it's not, it's a herald, there's another guy called Rafi Aitan who's actually the operational leader of the role to get Eichmann. I think he's called Stinky Rafi, because in the

in the 48, he gets to like crawl through a sewer for like three days or something and comes out. That's more Charlie Speed. smelling a poo. It's not the most creative stick name. Stinky Raffy? That's the thing does what it says.

Yeah, I guess so. You know, quick single onto the leg side. Caught in sewage. Stinky Raffy. There you go. Anyway, Bauer,

the German attorney general gets this tip off from the, from Klaus's girlfriend. Yeah. And he realizes the West Germans aren't going to do

anything because they're all still Nazis. Yeah, no one's, the interest is fading, basically. Yeah, interest fading. So he goes to Mossad.

It goes to Issa Harel. And Harel's like, oh, well, I'm still interested. I'm interested in getting Eichmann. So he sends a guy called JV. I don't know how to say his ready names.

Z-H-V-I. J-H-V-I. J-V. J-V. J-V. J-V. J-V. So he's going down to slide.

V. Svi! Yeah, he goes on a big slide all the way to... He's called J-V-Haroni, I think, or Haruni or something. T-Hironi goes to Buenos Aires to scope it out. And there's also... There's a... The girl's dad is basically like

fancies himself as a spy the girlfriend's dad so he's like yeah we'll track him down we'll find him the blind one yeah the blind guy thinks that he's James Bond yeah but he starts he's also he starts basically keeps asking for money from from the Israelis

being like if I'm gonna do some work I should be paid for it and so would you not want to find this guy he's like well can you blame a schmuck for trying to make a quick buck kind of thing right he's trying to he's obviously this is why you know this is why The search takes so long

Israeli is like, well, I should be paid for this. It's really money here? Can't blame a guy for trying to make a quick book. You should be paid. He should be paid. But, um,

see her only goes over to be like, are you sure you found him? Let's do some tests and, uh, let's do some more, um, scoping out. And,

you know, this is where the story becomes, it's like Sean Conroy here with James Bond because I heard a thing where the blind guy is like, how can we trust you? And he goes, he rips an Argentinian dollar in half gives him half and go

if you see the guy with the other half then you know and he's like no what are you doing that's a dollar I could have bought some chewing gum with that

Christ but then I just realised he's blind so that that's a stupid thing to do it is to be honest I don't know if he's blind I may have got bored

during the audiobook anyway basically there's lots of Issa Harrell and Mossad they start sending out more and more people to scope out the reported sightings of Eichmann and they're not really getting anywhere partly because the guy might be blind he might not be I can't remember

and maybe Klaus splits up with the Jewish girl maybe as well I'm not sure anyway in 1960 Eichmann's father dies back home in Mouti Farty Farty

Farty My head's gone My head's absolutely gone I've lost it. I'm gone I'm absolutely gone I'm absolutely gone Do you know what? Thank God we did the Nazis to early on because it just wouldn't

it wouldn't have been a podcast it's too much fun that's what Ricardo that's what Ricardo's doing he's got the journey of Eichmann

is mutty to Fadi we're getting as lost as they were at this point we're stuck This is why The hunt takes 12 years

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I don't wish his father's death on anyone Walk him or not This is when Eichmann's doing Tragically his father drowned In a mountain of poo He slipped and fell Tripped into a mountain of poo This is Eichmann's during his Edinburgh

A friend show This is when you realise that He's doing it as Ricardo Yeah It's Annoffin is Ricardo Yeah And when you find out his father's dead You're like

God that is really tough So you mean So he begins with him talking about him doing the holocaust and then he goes but then at the 40 minute mark there's a sad bit and then at the age of about 93 my father passed away and everyone's like that is so moving yeah that's really sad that bit of the story just think you've done all that yeah and then you're yeah so he is thinking should i go back to germany for the funeral and then he goes obviously now i can't because man ricardo that was quick yeah that was quick should i do that oh no i'm literally

going to get, I'm going to get killed. Yeah, that'll be fucking mad. But that's a bad idea. And at this point, there's loads of rumours of him. Every now and then, in the paper, there's like a rumor that he's in Kuwait or he's in Egypt and he's helping Arab nationalists and stuff. So there's a lot of tip of,

so like a lot of time we have no idea who's telling the truth. Because there's no, there's no internet. So there's not, the last photo they have of him is the one that his mistress from Prague gave a Jewish investigator from Haganah back like 10 years ago. So what the West Germans do is they go to the father's funeral and they take photographs of his brothers and they,

because they're trying to work out what he looks like now. Oh, so he sent his boys over. He sent the meaty boys over. No, no, not his sons. Eichmann has brothers. Eichmann's one of five. And so they go to the funeral

and they photograph his brothers just try and get a picture of what they think Eichmann might look like now. In Argentina, they say that he looks quite like his brother, is it Otto? Anyway. They're all black and it's like, oh, this is the wrong funeral.

it's me myself and Irene Aikkenbaum had three black triplets Carl Adolf Eichmann was a German accountant who worked for the tramways It runs in the family I bet the trip that it runs very well in the family Yeah Very efficiently

75 he died Devastated That's young Young, too young Gone but not forgotten Let's have a little in memoriam We're going to have This episode is dedicated to Carl

Staholfikem Poor one out boring out for Eichmann's dad anyway fucking hell right come on let's get this back on track we need Eichmann to run this fucking

podcast we're no way we're getting to our destination so there's various tip-off in the late 50s in 1960 they took photo of his dad and they start to go

okay this is what probably looks like they build like a composite image of what they think it looks like now and they go over to why's you got a pair of tits it's a guy so they had to do quite a few of them yeah yeah

anyway there's a guy There's Jviharoni is going over there And he is the one that I think there's one point where he goes to Eichmann's house And he has a spy camera in a briefcase I mean this is why it's just piqued James Bond You know because spies nowadays is really boring You know all the the queue

The exploding pens and all that stuff Now they're like well that's too obvious What an actual spy does is they just go in front of the Iranian embassy And they just take photos And then if they get called up and they go I'm on holiday Yeah And you go well that's boring isn't it?

Yeah Yeah, the craft has definitely gone Yeah, the spyware It's got where's the paper with the eyes in it Yeah You know Where's the fucking knife and the shoe You know

Where's all the fun stuff So this is happening now Briefcase Yeah, there's the photos Is that them? Yeah, that's the photos from the Oh yeah So he goes to, he poses as

An American Wanting to, he wants to buy up property in the area To start as factory Right So he's just talking to him About what the area's like

Yeah And he has a briefcase With the camera And he takes these photos And then they go back and they compare that to the photos they have in their file which includes the photo that his old mistress from Prague gave them and they decide that this is Adolf Eichmann they know from the they've gone to the records office in Buenos Aires and they found that the gas meter is registered

to Ricardo Clement and they put two and two together and they realize there's the I think the the terminology they use is the traffic light is red Eichmann is Clement right is Ricardo and he's gobbling off gauchos. Right, right, right, right. You've got to stop him. Never mind that holocaust stuff. He's sucking off all these cowboys. Yeah, it's very homophobic.

Very homophobic culture. So, then what Issa Herell, the head of Mossad does, is he goes to primaries to David Ben-Gurin, who's like the hero of 48. Oh, fuck. Yeah, look at his hair. His hair is crazy. It looks like the current Irish president. Oh, yeah. Michael D. Higgins.

Michael D. Heddy. Yeah. Crazy. In both cases, not doing great for the stereotypes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can see what they come from, basically. It's like, lad, if you don't want to be called a leprechaun, don't know, like that guy. Who should we get to represent the Irish? Or how about the little diddley-de-de-de-Irish? Hello there! Hi, Michael D. Higgins! Yeah, if you're not at the parliament at the end of a rainbow, please, guys.

Yeah, anyway, Ben-Gurion is the hero, and he's the head of, he's the Prime Minister of Israel. And so, Harrell goes over and goes right, we know, Ikeman, is Ricardo. Yeah. We know he's been living this gay life out in Buenos Aires. What should we do?

And Ben Gurian's like get him back here. We'll put him in a box in a room and we'll try him. We'll have a trial in Israel. I want him alive. A lot of people want him to shot. People just said people,

there was like one of the plans was, oh, we'll go over there. He'll have a car accident. No one will ever know that he was even Eichmann and Israel just slip in, slip out. And Ben Gurian's like, no.

because everyone who's a Holocaust survivor in Israel is being called like a fat loser and like, no, we're skinny losers. Yeah, but they've overcompensated. They got released and went straight to the doughnut shop. Right, right. But as in, as in this, you know, people are forgetting about the Holocaust already

in Europe. People have moved on from it. You know, in Nuremberg, there was never any survivor testimony. It was all like top down from the Allies. So, Ben-Gurin's like, we need to try him. And we need, justice needs to be done, needs to be seen to be done.

So he initiates operation finale. The finale solution. The finale solution. Nice bit of, to the Eichmann question. So you've got, so you've got, so these,

we're going to, this is like the crack team that they get together, right? This is like, not the A team or the A team. The Oive A team. It's a Hirel, who's the big dog, head of Mossad.

He goes over there. Well, it's head of Mossad's out there. Yeah, yeah, so I don't want to get, yeah, this is big... No, he goes over there to make sure, because he's like, we got one shot, I'm not fucking this up. Right. Then you've got Rafi Aetan, Stinky Rafi. That's his nickname, yeah, sorry.

Stinky Rafi. So he's the hero of, like, he predicted that the Jordanians would invade in 48 as soon as they pronounced it. And then he told the Israeli army, and on that intelligence, they were able to fight off that first. So he's a real hero for the Israelis. Then you got Peter Malkin, who I think, so he's the chief kidnapper. he's got massive hands he's got like baseball mitts for hands that's why he's the chief kidnapper

yeah yeah yeah he's the guy the biggest hands is the kidnapper so his job is is going to be to basically bundle he's got big ears as well bundle him into a car he also is the only one that speaks Spanish then you got shvi errone

who's the lead investigator but the mission operation finale is so thrilling because it's basically it's basically three missions in one right because they have to kidnap Pfeichmann alive, they then have to keep him in Argentina without his sons, without his sons coming for them.

His big burly sons. And then you have to get him back to Israel, all in one go. So what they, there's very Argo-like in some ways. It's like a, mate, it's like a hitman level. Do you ever play hitman? Yeah, yeah. Love hitman. This whole mission is a hitman level in that you can't kill anyone.

Yeah. And then that's how you win the game. Yeah. Hitman, if you, people are like what hitman is. Hitman is a game where you're trying to do assassination but you have to work through this kind of like you basically keep pushing people into bins and stealing their clothes

and you start as like a chef and then you really, yeah. It's fucking great. In lockdown I play Hitman the entire time. The big lesson you learn from Hitman is that you can kind of get into anywhere with the right uniform. Yeah, but also wardrobe's your friend.

Always put you, you go up behind people you like chloroform them and then you put them in the wardrobe. So if you're, if you're, like, you know, if you're running a restaurant and some of this appears, just look in your wardrobes. But this is what they have to do. In the Hitman mission, they have to get Eichmann, they have to bundle him into a car, then to keep them in a safe house,

and then there's the whole thing of how the fuck are we getting it back to Israel. So what they do is the Israeli airline is called El Al, I think. Right. They don't fly straight to South America because obviously, why would they? That's for the Nazis. But as it so happens,

in May 1960, it's the 150th anniversary of Argentinian independence from Spain and an Israeli delegation has been invited to the celebrations. So what Issa Heral does is somehow he like gets in a meeting with

the LL bosses and he's like so you're going to Argentina for the Israeli delegations can I just book a few extra seats on that plane? Don't ask me why. Why? No, no, no, no, don't. All right. I've got a load a mountain of poo into the cargo.

So he basically managed to orchestrate it So that the Israeli delegation will arrive in Buenos Aires They'll be there for a bit And then they'll capture Eichmann And then they'll use the return flight To smuggle him back on Back to Israel Yeah

And try him, right? So They do all that They go out in May 1960 And you know At this point they still haven't found a fucking safe house So they've got to just go through like They've got a deal with like Argentinian

Foxtons to try and find a safe house. And you know, Airbnb. They're all on cocaine, obviously. They're having four hour naps in the day. Sure, sure, sure. Wow, the fuck, they don't want to get anything done here. So they eventually find a safe house.

They build a little prison sort of basement for Eichmann. And then in the safe house, they're there for like two or three weeks. And every night they're practicing in the garage how they're going to get in. him. Yeah. So Eichmann has got a job at a Mercedes factory and he loves his routine. Loves routine. You can, yeah, you could set your watch by him.

He's getting the bus every... And you can sell a lot of other people's watches by him because he steals a lot of other people's watches and teeth and shoes. Anyway, every night he comes home from work on the same bus, the 202 bus to Garibaldi Street. Yeah. And then he goes home and he has dinner with his boring wife and his Nazi sons and then he goes to sleep and he... And he wishes he was, he was Ricardo, sucking off gauchos or whatever. That's his life. Have they seen him yet?

Yes. And they're shocked about how disheveled and poor he is. Yeah, they're shocked by how poor he's living. Because this is a guy he was commandeering castles and hungry and like quaffing wine and eating goulash and maniacally laughing at Jews getting on trains. And now he's just living in a shit brick house, basically, with a boring wife. Not a brick shit house. That's his three sons. No, he's actually got a shit brick house.

Yeah, which he lives in with three bricks. With three brick shithouses. They go out and they watch him. And he lives in a very deserted area, it must be said. So they're spying on him for like a couple of weeks. And they sort of basically, they realize that it is like a hitman mission in that he's an MPC and he's doing the same route off a bus. Yes. Around the corner, into his house.

The lamp goes on. That's the same every night. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So they go, okay, what we're going to do is we're going to park a car. We're going to pretend that the engine's gone. and we're going to be looking under the hood and as he comes around the corner

I'm going to go around and go a momento seigneur and then he's going to go like and then he's going to he's going to say what he's going to bundle him into the car and they're going to fucking drug him or something

anyway and they're going to get him to the safe house so but what they're doing is they're practicing this every night in a garage so Peter the guy with the big hands Peter Malkin every night he's basically rugby tackle his mates into a car

and his mates are trying out different scenarios where Eichmann is like you know self-defence trained Ikeman really likes it harder yeah do it harder oh such big hands um daddy so but basically

farty sorry we were so nearly getting to the history so my point is that but they're also they're all terrified of Eichmann because he's been built up as this you know he's the devil wizard of odds kind of thing isn't it

I wouldn't say wizard I'd say I'd say Wizard of Auschwitz The Wizard of Auschwitz Follow that yellow star road It's been fun on it lasted this podcast So But they're terrified of him

Because he's been built up As this like You know He's in their heads He's the the guy who did the Holocaust. Right. We haven't had the trial yet.

He's the highest ranking Nazis. He's still on escape. In their heads, he's the guy. So they think he's worked in the SS. He's like, he's clever. They think he's going to know, suspect that he's there because he's been evading capture for so long. So, you know, they're practicing night in, night out.

They're doing these fucking, you know, and basically they're covered in bruises all the time. Because they're just hitting each other. Yeah. They're like russing stags, these big Israeli boys. So we get to the, The operation is scheduled for the 10th of May and what's quite funny is that the head of Mossad

is a herel. So what he's doing is he's literally every day he's going to 12 cafes a day because he's moving to try and not put suspicious. He's basically just eating a meal. He's eating 12 meals a day and he's fucked. So he's just like eating constantly eating drinking coffee. Are you going to buy anything?

Yes, I'll have another. Well, he's having a coffee every single one. So he is having a panic attack, shitting himself. Yeah. Yeah, he's making him out and a poo to put Eichmann in. Anyway, his job is now to try and get the Israeli airline on board. Because they're out there and they're like, we've got to basically somehow convince the Israeli airline to smuggle this guy on.

So May the 11th, 1960, here we go. We'd be talking about this for two and a half hours. We've just got to the point where he's going to be kidnapped. They're waiting outside his house on Garibaldi Street. It's 7 p.m. The bus comes. he doesn't, he's not on it he doesn't get off

and they're thinking he must be tipped off they're thinking fuck there's been a tip off surely one of his big boy sons has told him he never misses a bus

in his life this guy is Mr. Bus used to be Mr. Train now he's Mr. Bus he's captain bedtime he's always on buses where is he

what's happened what's actually happened is he's gone to a trade union meeting that night for Mercedes-Benz so he's an hour late but they don't know that they think fuck

we've waited too long he's spooked he's run they go should we call it quits and they go no because if we're seen here again with the with the car that's broken down there's going to be suspicions so an hour later bus comes it's right let me paint you a picture it's raining that's the end of the picture it's raining it's windy it's uh it's Buenos Aires so I imagine it's a bit smelly well stinky raffi's in the car stinky ruffies about so

people are like fucking hell you could have show it anyway I a man in a little, a small man with a top hat and a trench coat is walking and he's got his hand firmly in his right pocket and they're thinking, oh fuck he's got a gun he's got a gun. He's got a shooter. He's actually got a ruler. He's got a ruler. He's just been taking measurements. No, he's just

got a torch. Anyway, so suddenly they panic and the big guy with a big, he comes around the corner where the car is and the big guy, big people, big hands, big hands, he goes One momento seigneur. That's the line he's been practicing as well. It's a practicing, yeah. Like an autistic going on his first day.

You're saying it. All the mentals in the arts. Nice to meet you. And how are you doing? Would you like a drink? What are your interest in hobbies? I like to dance. What about you?

Yeah, it's weirdly similar to going on a first date, isn't it? It is. It's like, oh my God, he's there. It's a blind date. You think, will he show? Won't he show? Oh. He's fucking stood me up.

Oh, God. You know, wonder what he does. So tell me, where'd you grow up? You got any family? Huh? Anyway, he turns around the corner. Well, Menlo, Signor, and Eichmann's straight away, is like, ah, that's not right.

And then Peter panics and just goes, fuck, and just, like, goes for him. And because he thinks he's got a gun, he tries to get him in a grip that he hasn't been practicing. So they tumble into a ditch, and it's all a bit messy. And then Eichmann's, like, struggling. And then two other other, Stinky Rafi comes in with the other guy,

and eventually they smother him. Pit, he passes out. Yeah, he just gets his pits out and just, like, Eichmann passes out. They get him in the car. and they're like drive, drive, drive, drive, drive. And they've got a doctor with him as well who just makes sure Ikeman's like stable.

They get him to the safe house and then they strip him naked, they handcuff him to the bed, and he's loving it. This is Ricardo's absolute wet dream of the evening. He's been kidnapped by four big Israelis. Oh, please don't time me up. Yeah, it is like a sort of,

it's a gay Nazi, like vengeance fantasy, isn't it? You've been caught, being naughty boy. You're tied to a bed, naked, four massive Mossad agents. I mean, I'm just having your way with it. I'm just describing my wet dream here, basically. So they strip of naked, and this is the bit I found funny, is that the audio book I was listening to, they were talking about how this genius interrogation technique.

This guy, whoever the interrogator has forgotten, is genius. And he goes, right, what's your birthday? And life can respond. he goes No further questions No he goes So first he says

What's your name And he goes He goes He goes Ricardo And he goes What was what were you called Before that And he goes

Otto Otto Echman And he goes What we called Before that And he goes Oh he's playing A tough game

Here Strong defense Strong defense here And then he goes This is this This is this big trick He's asking Really quick questions

So he goes When were you born You're born What was your SS number And he just says it And he goes Fuck

And he goes Ah I got here So he reveals that he's Adol Pfeichmann. That's almost disappointingly easy. It's so easy. This guy's been on the run for 15 years. Yeah, just fucking...

Name, birthday, rank. Did you hate the Jews? No! Fuck! I fucked it. Shit. And slowly he confesses he's Adolf Eichmann and he says, you're going to kill me.

And they go, no, we're going to take it back to Israel. And he goes, I don't do that. Please. At what point does he say, I've made peace with my fate? He says something like that. Did you hear that? I don't know because he's there for like

he's there for 10 days and they get so bored because it might have been after he's captured yeah straight after he's captured yeah he says maybe even in the car

uh I have made peace I think it is in the car yeah but he says I basically made because he's basically known something like this is potentially going to happen

yeah as soon as it's happened he knows he's fucked and he's just like I've made peace with it so when they're in the safe house basically there's someone always on him

at all times yeah and basically Eichmann is now reduced to the sad old of an old man who's like, can I have a poo and they have to walk him to the toilet. So they keep him in the safe house for ten days. But they also know the sun's out looking for him.

The sun's started looking for him. Because there's this strong network of Nazis who live in... Well, yeah, there is. And actually, Harel, as soon as they capture Eichmann and they're keeping him, he's like, let's get fucking Mengale as well. And everyone's like, what?

We've been planning this operation for five months. And now you're like, we've got him and we're waiting to get on the plane and he's like, I'm bored, let's get another one. Let's get another one. They're fucking, they're like buses. Let's just get another one. Eichmann's got a hood over and said he goes, buses?

No, no. No, sorry, sorry, Adolf. We're getting a plane back. Mengalee, he's a bad man. He's one of the noughtier ones. Yeah, he's a medical experiments guy. Yeah, the angel of death was his nickname. But he never, I think he, I think he evaded justice.

He evaded justice. A lot of conspiracy theories about where he is But he would So they did find They found out where he lives While they're out there So Mike was in the same safe house They sent an agent out to find Mengele

They had a tip off They talked to a postman And they're like, where's the German doctor? They went oh yeah He lived there And then he'd moved like three weeks before So they just missed him Yeah

Great, a double Imagine come about Because they'd go in the dock as well Exactly You're the boys Yeah So anyway They get really

board and they invent lots of games in the safe house like throwing an apple into a bin and stuff and I think someone's trying I think there's a game of like how many apples someone can eat in a day or something Is Eichmann getting involved in the games? I don't think Eifman's getting involved in the games.

Are they like bonding with them now because it's been so long they're like You're right, mate, you know what? You're all right. You're funny. You're funny actually. I don't know why everyone goes on about you. No, the thing I listened to said

there was kind of this atmosphere. Eiffman was like a black hole sucking the vibes out of the David House. slagging what his dad's just died I know that's what he's depressing them because he's like you know my dad just died and they're like oh mate chill out yeah they say that basically he's so pathetic and small and old man and this is where his his kind of personality starts to confuse them because he's not this insane cartoonish evil guy yeah he's just a kind of sad

old prick it's like a grumpy old prick it's just like oh I just really like trains I You know, I'm not a bad guy. I was just following orders or whatever. He also, he starts kind of being like, oh, I don't hate Jews. I love Jews. Some of my best friends are Jewish. You know, he does all that stuff.

And he goes like, I speak Yiddish. And they're like, fuck off, mate. He does. I mean, I'm paraphrasing. I don't actually know what they said. Some of my best friends are Jewish. I mean, that hadn't been kind of debunked as a method yet. No.

But it's one of the... Didn't that work to the Nuremberg trials? I've got to be anti-Semitic. My best friends are Jewish. Yeah. Some of my genocide victims are Jewish. Oh, fuck. I mean, friends.

All of the guys I put in the... All the guys I put in the death camps were Jewish. Yeah. All I did was I ran a charity to give Jewish people free rail travel. To centre parks. When I put them on, I thought they were going to centre parks. Anyway, there's been quite a lot of boring international law bullshit about whether the whole thing is a vibe or not. That on the Israeli side, David Ben-Gur and the Prime Minister went to his attorney general and he said,

I don't care what you have to do make it legal for us to do this because it's not legal going to Argentina kidnapping someone taking them back Well it breaks the Argentinian law obviously Yes But it feels like quite special circumstances

And also why the fuck are you keeping Nazis there Well that's the second question isn't it Pissus me off They go we're going to try you Do you want to come to Israel And he's like no that's not fair That wouldn't be a fair trial would it You're all Jewish and they're like

Yeah you guys can be so biased You're really biased I'll have an objective trial a trial in Germany and they go well that's not objective you're German yeah so basically but they need him to sign this thing saying I'm coming willingly to stand trial in Israel yeah and I think

they do get him to sign it on the last day yeah they managed to get and to sign it which he does seem a little bit defeated by the whole thing that's when he's resigned to his I resigned to my fate because and he also keeps thinking they're going to kill him at the point like they take him out in the yard for exercise there's always someone there and he's like

kind of I need another poo and stuff another one Yeah, mate, I'm nervous, I'm scared. You know, he's just so pathetic. And they've, you know, in their head... It's a boring loser. They built him up as Hitler. And he's actually, um, Stephen Bartlett.

Can I have another po? I've had too much heel. It's gone right through me. That's chill. So yeah, he's just, he's just bobbing about in the yard. But anyway, listen. On the 20th of May, they get on the plane

they smuggle him through Brenna set it they drug him so he's a bit sleepy disorientated and then what they do is they get him through security by going oh this guy's sick

and they're like yeah yeah whatever because he's in and this is pre-9-11 this is very pre-9-11 you could not do the Eichmann heist now yeah

like they dress him up in the crew and gear the only person on the plane in the crew who knows about this is the pilot everyone else got no idea

that just think it's a new crew member right right right I think he's a guy guy called Ricardo that got on the trolleys so they get him on the plane they smuggle him back and the plane is meant to under normal circumstances it would meant to have three stops to refuel

they go we can't risk that can you just fucking put your foot down and cane at home and the pilot's like I can do one stop and even that's a bit of a risk and they're like fuck it do it so he does he absolutely is like nailing it down on the pedal on the pedal he's running on fumes like oh fuck you know

he's not the best plane He's got the little yellow petrol tank. It's like 50 miles to refuel. Like, oh, I think I can... He's in neutral a lot. He's coasting. He stops in Senegal refueles, gets back to Israel. This is why it's quite similar to Argo,

getting them out when they're not meant to be out. The sons have got... Because obviously it's been like 10 days, maybe even longer. It's 10 days. Yeah, 10 days. So the sons have got together a band of other Nazis who have all...

They've suspected, obviously, that he's been abducted. Yeah. They think it's by... Jews in the area so they go start smashing up synagogues fucking back to the old tricks

yep any excuse the apple does not fall far from the tree but like literally yeah Argentinian Nazis are going around

looking for him blaming Jews and stuff and then they think it might be Israelis and then they realize they might even have got a tip off or they see that

there's an Israeli a delegation in town this is really suspicious and so then they desperately say right when this plane stops what it was meant to in Brazil, we're

going to make sure that it gets off. So they have people in Brazil waiting. Shit, I didn't know this. Yeah, there are people in Brazil. They're like, we're going to you know, but it's too late. Because the plane goes straight to Senegal? It doesn't stop. Oh, so what was going to happen in Brazil? Well, there was like a team of they're going to get people. They're going to be board the plane. Because I think they might have even

spoken to the Argentinian government. Because the Argentinian government obviously does not want this at all. No. Because it's breaking Argentinian law. Well, it's a disgrace. It's an A man whose father's literally... His dad has just died and you've kidnapped. He's an old man. and you've kidnapped him and you've put him

on a plane I mean the whole thing is incredibly distasteful Also what about the statute of limitations? I know What is the statute of limitations? How long?

Was it 10 years in America? Yeah, he did the Holocaust like 20 years ago Give the guy a break Has he committed one crime since he got to Argentina? He's just all this guys done follow the rules

in this country, Argentina's followed the rules robustly. Yeah, maybe Ikeman had but Ricardo's done nothing wrong. Ricardo's done nothing wrong. Unless you know, you're a homophobic.

No, look, this is a tragic tale violation of international sovereignty they shouldn't even be in Argentine airspace if they were following the rules so they get him back to Israel and Argentina say repatriate him they wake up

finally oh yeah okay what repatriate him immediately you've broken our law which pisses me off they get them they get him back on the just to finish the timeline 22nd of May lands and then they either get him in a cell and on 23rd of May David Ben Gurian announces that they've

successfully captured Adolf Eichmann and he's in Israeli custody and that's the first the world hears about it no one knows anything about this until now but then you were saying that Argentina they're like this is ridiculous to send him back immediately oh okay yeah

why the fuck have you got so many Nazis there yeah the goal yeah that's our Nazi you've taken our Nazi why have you got one we've got loads actually we're collecting them it's like the World Cup

where they do stickers Yeah, which I guess shows how The view of the Holocaust Maybe is not Shows where it was at this point Where you could be saying, that's my fucking Nazi. That's my not, give it back, that's my Nazi. I'd love to have a Nazi sticker book.

And I bet you would. Like, um... Like the match attacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Panini ones. Yeah. So, uh, Eichmann is in Israel. Yeah.

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I mean, we are like, we're now mopping it up with about 15 pieces of toast. This is because we've been denied the Nazis for months. Yeah. And now it's on the table. We're eating so much. We're sick. It's on the table and we're eating so much. We're sick.

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