Fin vs History - The Paras called it Sunday Funday | The Troubles (part 2) with Vittorio Angelone

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

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Welcome back to Finn versus History. As ever, I'm joined by Horatio Shogold. And for the first time, we have a guest. The Belfast Hardman, Vittorio Angelooni. He's holding us hostage. We didn't want him to be a guest. he has taken this genuai force he's come in as you can see

in what looks like a tea cozy which is a pacifist balaclava is it is it the white one is you're whiting up it's like the white puppy I'm against all of it this is white face yeah I feel this is quite offensive

yeah because surely the balaclava from a terrorist point of view that looks like my uncle that looks like please put a bullet in my head if you're wearing that in the troubles the white it's you're standing out on you yes I would say so

so what this is is actually a kneecap official Balaclava that they left at a venue I was in the venue two nights after them in Dublin and I found this backstage

so this is official as worn by kneecap This is Northern Irish Heritage right here Neaccap are Necap are so you have the real IRA then the continuity IRA

then Necap is that what I think in the time run? Yeah I generally don't know who Neacap are an Irish language rap group

and it's just on a film and it's way better than in science Yeah right there's two things you don't like in one Irish

Irish Irish Irish Irish it's the least Presbyterian thing that's ever exist it's lose there's them yeah no I've heard

people talk about kneecap well he's got a middle finger up which I feel is a bit rude I didn't know yeah that's terrifying that feels a bit that's terrifying

you know we all like to have a good laugh but that sees a bit cross the line there so Vittorio we brought Vittorio on to educate if you could not name me sorry

The man formerly known as Vodcaster F. So, soldier F and so, yeah. So we've got, we've got a podcast of V. Yeah. It's funny at the end of this episode it says, Victoria Angelouly says he's never taken part.

Yeah. Did I have any involvement in the inverse history? He's a legitimate political party. Legit. That's a good word. So he's, so he's, you grew up in Belfast? I grew up in Belfast. Um, not in this time.

Not, not during the, no, not during the Battle of the Bogue side. Charlie called it earlier. Battle of the bog side. Well, we were saying that we, it didn't really narrow it down the battle of the bog side. You view the entire island

there's a bog side. Bingo. Got it first time. He's one of the quicker ones. But I do have a second balaclava, which I will award to the one of you that gets it all right. Really?

Wow. That's fun. That I deem to be the most. I would like to see fit in a valaclava, to be honest. I'm going to be annoyed if I don't get that balaclava. Yeah.

I mean, you studied this. I studied this, yeah. And I'm incredibly in your degree. Yes. Yeah. Exciting. By my choice. So you've gone, you said you went from Henry the Earth to 1969 in an hour.

In an hour. And now we're going to do about three years. Now we're going to slow right down. We've done a lot of, we've done a lot of heavy foreplay. Yeah. Now we're going to get to the good stuff. Which in my mind is, I mean, listen, the start of the troubles is spicy. Oh, yeah.

We'll start with the, um, we've got. to the battle of the bog side which is like and I teased it at the end of the last episode this is Martin McGuinness as a young man he's a butcher

arguably he stays a butcher but arguably allegedly he wants a butcher yeah yeah I mean he's working as a butcher he's chopping up meat okay

in dairy as a I want to say he's maybe like 19 or 20 in 1969 or England dairy or England dairy dairy dairy bracket's not

I don't know what do you call it dairy dairy yeah but like the thing is anybody you gain a lot of the passive audience with dairy because it's easier and shorter so London dairy's Protestants but then moderates moderate

Protestants are just like it's fucking it's dairy yeah yeah because you wonder who the bad guys are when there's a different city tagged all of it feels it's very much are we the bad guys is it dairy brackets London dairy or is it London Derry

I think technically on like maps and stuff it's very like Trump with the Gulf of Mexico vibes. Yes. He's just renamed it. It's the American Canal. Yeah. Yeah. The London Gulf of Mexico. Yeah. Yeah. So I think technically on maps it is London Derry.

But like there's also Derry London Derry is what the people on the news call it. Yeah. Stoke City. Because it's Derry Stroke London Dary. There's a lot of strokes happening. I know. It wasn't. Yeah. Sorry. It wasn't that. Abnormally amount of strokes happened there due to bad day. I wouldn't be surprised. they're all fucked up

in Derry. Yeah. I mean, obviously because of all of this you go to Derry and I and everybody there's like it's like they've all been punched in the stomach from birth.

But they also, I think that was the policy of the Paris at the time was to punch every person in Derry. In the stomach from birth. Yeah. I think that was... That's probably why they like that.

We'll get to that. Because all the punching in the stomachs from birth. Yeah. This is called Operation Punch them from birth. So what is, to give a flavor before we crack into the history

as a man who grew up in Belfast, I call you the Belfast hard man. probably Belfar soft boy, really. Extremely middle class soft boy. Yeah, yeah. I come from like SDLP Heartland, if you know what the SDLP are. Yeah, it's trimble.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're sort of like, you don't want to say the Lib Dems, but like sort of the Lib Dems. Liberal Democrat, it's that. What was they're saying? So they're just saying, why can't we all get on?

They believe in like the ballot box rather than the Armolite. Okay. Which was the Jerry Adams thing, the Armalight and the ballot box thing. Did these sections have territory in the city of Belmont? fast or is it not really

work like that? What do you mean? Like turf? The SDLP don't really have turf. They have cafes. They're not like postcode. And they're not blowing those cafes up. They're just blowing them up with ideas.

The Estabit, yeah, it's ideas. Not bombs. They're blowing people's minds rather than their limbs. Yes. Yeah. And I don't even know if they're blown their minds, really. No.

I mean, Trimble is big in the priest process. It's all very moderate. It's all very, hey, no. Like that's the, that's the slogan of the SELP is. Whoa. With Vittoria here is to go through some of the shopping channels. I mean, the different affiliates. in the in the so all the acronyms all the acronyms so you've got a IRA which in this timeline

hasn't yet but split into the provisionals and the officials right so you've got the irish they're on the catholic nationalists the big boys are right then which is interesting because like nationalist in this context is left wing do you know what I mean well at some point they split don't they well there's all sorts of splinter cells the I and L.A and all those yeah kind of madder counts um so yeah you can you can you can broadly oh here we go these all the acronyms. I mean, I don't even know. You say that first one.

Sarah can fuck off. Sarah. Sarah. Sarah. Sarah. It's a white English woman called Sarah. Called Sarah. From North London.

Sarah. She's come in to sort of clean up the streets. But then this doesn't even, because the IRA obviously were like a thing in, like, you've, I'm sure you've covered this. Yeah. Way back when. Yeah. Way back when.

How do you say right at the bottom with the real IRA spinter group? What's that? I mean. Neherherhin. Sorry, what? No, no, I admire It would be, I guess I'm not going to boogook and a boogga

But then these are the ones I'm so English I think Northern Ireland's Bongo Bongo land to me That's like you The mask Belfist Bongo Bungo Bunga Land Wall The mask from

Crash Bandicoot Chaginit That was you trying Was the main thing What is that uga boogunoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo That was you trying Christ These are the

the ones that you guys don't talk about the Protestant paramedaries? Oh, I talk about them because they're yeah, they're um, they're Patriots, Thatcher's bad boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the Eric Andre thing that that's like the only reason people know about that like, you know that like the meme of Eric Andre going, do you think

Thatcher had girl power? And then the guest goes, yeah, and he goes, do you think she utilized girl power by funding power militaries and death squads in Northern Ireland? And the girl's like, yeah. UDA

UDA These are easier to say Yeah The UDA That's the Glenn Garon gang What's that The Glenn Goyne

Geng Geng gang Well listen The loyalists I mean there's just so many different Yeah It's like It's a real I was saying people's front of Judea

There's just so many fucking The We start We left at 1969 Which is the scene As the start of the troubles There's basically Catholics are second

there's the people civil civil rights has begun yeah in 6768 can i put my big theory as to why the civil rights marches started go on southic won the champions league in 1967 and we all got a bit confident oh right so this is a parade that got out of hands yeah so the battle on the bogside is the celtic is still celebrating well we just went oh we can win yeah the champions league in 67 yeah and all the players were from within 11 miles of um southwick park is crazy never be done again but celebrating all local boys yeah what Scottish footballers yeah Billy McNeil and those types of people but then uh is it weird because Belfast obviously they're into there's just the Glasgow sectarianism imported right

well it's sort of the other way around because Celtic was like is a an Irish is a football team set up for Irish people yeah Glasgow in 1888 right set up by Irish priests so it's like always been oh it's gone back being Irish oh I see so it was like family members who were it was four irish people supported irish people right and then i don't really know where rangers are from they only started in 2017 yeah of course yeah um so uh celtic win the european cup people go mad for two years and at some point the power has come in and go will you shut there's been two people who won the trophy since you won it can you stop partying yeah yeah yeah um there's some writing orange order parades um so i was learning about the orange order today on like

lies is the theme of this podcast on a very very boring podcast about history the orange order was basically set up because the like protestant upper class and middle class like business owners and property owners needed to basically unify and make sure the protestant working class were on their side and didn't organize with the catholic working class so like no intermingling so they set up these lodges where they could all kind of hang out and be boys yeah and they're like yeah you're one of us and they're like oh what about a pay rise and they're like like shut the fuck up let's get so it's like

when your boss gives you pizza on Friday literally that's what the orange order is beanbags yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a table tennis table in the break room no you still have to play in the office but you can play for a bit and they dress up crazy

because they're super Presbyterian and I always think it's crazy that they're like twirling batons playing the flute because they're all going on about William Orange right yeah yeah yeah who's a big deal to you guys to them to the they killed loads of Catholics

and that's why they like him yes is my understanding of their stop clock is right we saw that last episode that's crazy that's crazy it's so great to say

for no reason just to be like a stop clock that after uga-buga you're really go for I don't know eventually there will be a paramilitary group called uga booga and a stuff yeah well we should start one if there is it

may weirdly make them prostit the uga boogah boys well the arms order gone my fucking mate I reckon I reckon I reckon give it 10 years the Venga boys would be some kind of loyalists

Wait so the orange boys These are some of the most The orange boys Welcome to Finn versus history The Orange lads The orange boys So they're like very I mean they're not far off

That's what you're saying right They're very conservative Restrained people Who dress up like umpalumpers Basically Once a year It's like can you turn that down And they go with it like head to toe

A neon orange White Dungarees Dutch from fans with like an orange flare. Can you please stop Messian? Has Peasley come up? No, yeah. I don't know much about Paisley, but I want to. Home rule is Rome rule. But that's in this, that's the late 60s. All right. So this is what we're coming in. So the Catholic, the

civil rights that's kicking off. Civil O rights? Did you say the civil rights? That's what I've been calling it for the last. You've been even just caught that. Is that Irish civil rights? You just add an O to it? Yeah, civil rights. Have you just clock that? I've been saying it like that for the last time. There's so much, there's so much raises on this podcast. Some of it passes me by. Sorry, you have the American civil rights movement and the Northern Irish just copy that wholesale. Yeah, we're like, we're black too.

We're black, yeah. They did it. They tried to copy the Martin Luther King March. They tried to march from Belfast to Derry. Yeah. And then we're mad. And they were doing the voice and it didn't seem so well with people. They were saying, hot off, weird, in the water.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just wasn't a good look at all. No. So, civil rights begins. in the 60s because Catholics are second-class citizens in Northern Ireland essentially housing discrimination

again that's because there just simply aren't enough three beds to deal with the amount of babies these people are having three is yeah three would be like rabbits yeah yeah

do the pan bed house I can have please yeah yeah and it's like so they're all living like the bucket family right they are essentially the IRA is a weaponised

bucket fan yeah it's the part you don't see from Chinese chocolate factory It's Charlie in the Carbone factory, is what this is. We can't just keep going to the factory and hoping we win a golden ticket. Yeah.

We've got to start taking this by force. So I believe that the Protestants, what was I going to say? They start doing something. Paisley comes in as a kind of a reaction to the NICRA, right? NICRA. Okay, what's that? That is close. Given what we're talking about.

It's close. There's black people, then there's NICRAs. that's that's the chris rock that's the chris rock routine it sounds like a ginger shot there yeah feel at the nose even uga boogga's struggling with that one so nICRA northern ireland uh civil rights association yeah yeah and busy paisley is the firebrand on the face of like he's the opposite side if we give them rights

then it'll lead to united ireland and that's a problem and it's right there's always one of those fellas he's like don't even leave that door a jar. Yeah, don't give them an inch. He's a big, like, he's a big, shut that door and I. Yeah, yeah,

don't give them an inch type guy. So I think he and the DUP, which does that come out of the UUP? Do you know? Who cares? Who cares? Anyway, the, well, I guess a lot of people, that's the point.

Just loads. For the purposes of this audience, who cares? The DUP become the major loyalist or not loyalist, but they become, loyalist is, means paramilitary essentially,

doesn't it? No, not necessarily. Unionist is the, like, software. So they become the main unionist political arm, right? Yeah, because there's a unionist party that were in power from the 1920s for 50 years. Yeah. Because the Northern Ireland was set up to always be unionist and controlled by that.

And it was all like, and so there was gerrymandering. There was a, who's gerrymandering? Yeah, he was never a member. And the, because the whole thing was one man, one vote, was the thing was if you own property, which was true in Britain until 1945. Yep. If you owned property, you got more. votes um yeah but then that stopped in 1945 with new labor not that new labor yeah

old labor and then the um but that was maintained in northern ireland because protestants were in the ascendancy and were allocated housing more so they had more votes which is why a lot of these civil rights marches started yeah and in derry the as we ended the last episode the civil rights the r uc which is basically a sort of there's a lot of overlap with the loyalist paramilitaries they're mainly prostitent they go in with batons start knocking people about... Well, what's mad is the government basically armed like

every Protestant in the country. Free guns. They basically has like army reservists. So there was all these like... For good behavior. Special... Yeah.

All these like special constabularies, the B specials, like the RUC, all these things. But it was basically like, okay, if anything kicks off a little bit, you all have guns and like batons and stuff so you can just... But it was only the Protestants

that were given that by the government. And imagine these decisions being made in Westminster over a gin tonic. Yeah. I reckon, give the prox guns. Yeah, right. Why are you bothering me with this? No, just give them guns. I've heard rumblings.

I've heard rumblings the uga-bougas are wearing a plan something. I reckon we should arm the prots. I don't care. Do what you want. Because you say prots, but prods would be more with a day. So, yeah, prods, which is a, is that like Tory to conservative. It's sort of like a slang term for prots. Prods.

Prods. What's the most, what's the most offensive term you can call prods? What's the word? Like, there's no real, like. Because it's Irish, yeah. Well, I guess wet back is Catholic, sort of generic Mexican Catholic. That's more than Americanism, yeah. Dry back.

But we call, but we call people from the Republic Mexicans. Right. Because they're from south of the border. Yeah, nice. But we have Phenian, Teg. You've got quite a lot. So you guys came up with no slurs? Like it doesn't really work.

Like, when they're oppressed people, you can't slur back. They were mainly coming up with bombs. Sticks and stones. It's like how honky isn't really much of snows of white people. But slurs will never hurt me. That's the thing is that you don't, when you're the, when you're the, when you're the, you're not going to offend you, is it? You can just, you can just take my guns away. It's like honky or cracker.

Exactly. And culturally, what are these fellas like the Protestants? What do they do for fun? Well, they're Presbyterians. So there's kind of weird Scottish Presbyterians. They don't do fun. Yeah, they're very pretty pretty good. I think nothing weird about that.

But they've got all the houses, big houses, what they do with them. Big nicer. And they get all the jobs. They're not talking to their wife in seven rooms. That's what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. And they have one child.

Yeah, yeah. Which is their fatal mistake is not chagging enough because the population is... Well, that's part of the... That's why they give them guns, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the...

But they had the abortion, which really could have solved the demographic shift. Do you know what I mean? True. Yeah. Wow, yeah. God, that's a real mix.

They're fucking themselves. And these guys are worse than... Yeah, the Scottish ones are pretty bad, but these guys, it's just... This is a new and improved, Presbyterian. It's terminated two, right? When it's come back, it's stronger than ever.

You go to the... go to their churches it's it looks like this room like it's the playlist room you've ever been in it's crazy yeah but there is no

paedophilia moving on the that's very debatable it's debatable it's debatable but it's not

we'll have later when you're not here there's a there's a court case about to happen about the former head of the DUP very exciting

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Then there are 15 kids come after you. 15 kids come after you. Everyone you hit has about 20 cousins. They get a noise. It's like when you hit a big spider and then it turns into loads of tiny spiders. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. It's like a rat king.

The Catholic population is a rat king with matted tails and you hit one and they have a hive mind. And it's like a field of cows. It's devastatingly hard. Right. so um blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bang another one bang so the british army enters belfast in august 69 um it was the summer of 69 yes so that's true actually this is well this is kind of the end of the sixties in everywhere because the manson yeah killings so the hippie hippie shit's ending hippie thank fuck the hippie shits ending the presbyterian brits are entering ring to kick these gluten-free fucks out of those hippie civil rights nonsense yeah

but I imagine the 60s was not particularly swinging in Belfast I can imagine that it wasn't quite as hippie-dippy as other places it's not a hippie-dippy place Belfast it's not it is not that there's a very big now there's a vibe and there was a very big punk scene kind of throughout the troubles of a bunch of people being like

I don't care what you are as long as you fucking we're all together under the devil I think I think that's the labest thing I've ever heard I don't get with your Catholic Oprosal as long as you rock Blah blah blah blah Blah blah We get to

So the box side 69 Yeah but a lot of these reports Have since been discredited in other reports So we probably I mean when people say we didn't try our best It seems like the hunt report That seems like an attempt to solve something To Sam's the IUC

The posh bloke Pull Hunt The Be Specials is that kind of like Just like given every cunt Yeah so the RUC which is basically the police force in Ulster in Northern Ireland they have been too heavily armed

they're out of control the army moves in and goes we'll take this from here now this is the interesting bit for the first couple of years the Catholic population are actually quite thankful for the British army

because they're like well they're not going to be as biased as these RUC cuns yeah it's not just my neighbour with a fucking stick but he's been given by the government he's been given a badge and a government approved stick

to hit me with all these videos of like Catholic moms bringing out like cups to tea to the soldiers and on, it's all very And these guys are British, they're from England. Yeah, English fellas, yeah, yeah. So they're not being hired from Protestant

Northern Ireland. I'm sure there's some, but it's mainly in. It's British military going, right. So they're getting cups of teeth and the Catholic mums and that's the end of the troubles. Brilliant. Thanks for watching. Thanks for coming in Toy.

I'm here, Kimmel and Saul. So they imposed 1970, they impose a curfew on the Falls Road. Now, Falls Road is the Catholic area of Belfast. you've got the falls and you're at the Shankill. Yep. Yes. Those are probably the areas you were talking about.

Yeah. Where, you know, if you're the wrong one, you don't get seen, you don't go in those places. But when I hear that, I'm like, do people look Catholic and look Protestant? I can't. It's the eye thing. I can tell you very. It's the fact I can't see your nose. I know you're Catholic.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is, I mean, I'm gaining respect from all for all paramilaries by wearing this for an extended period of time. It's a nightmare. Yeah, it's a nightmare. Yeah, it's an absolute amount. On masking. Should we do an unmasking? like the traitors yeah to see who is actually yeah who is who is podcast tv wow oh my god it's

it's sophy duca oh not again who'd have thought who'd have thought so my god um interesting thing about around this time it was illegal to fly an irish flag like an irish tricolor in belfast in northern ireland and illegal to commemorate the easter rising and any of that stuff, which is I guess it's because the Protestants made the rules, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be why that is. Yeah, I mean, rules are rules. You don't have rules society just breaks down.

You got to have rules. As you can see from the 70s and if you don't like the rules, go somewhere else. People don't follow the rules, so it breaks down. There's got to be some kind of rule-based order. Otherwise, you know. I don't have a house. You're a shit house.

The rules are rules? The 70s were. a peaceful decade milan we're not for the constant consistent rule breaking on one part of the population they just stayed where they belong would you please

just follow the rule right so July 3rd 970 this one starts to get juicy IRA split in two you got the official IRA and the provisional IRA provost so this is like Robbie leave and take that

yeah right this is exactly that and Robbie's the provost because he's the sexy one and official ones Are hey what They can't numb them I'm concerned I'd like to see a monkey-star Biopic about this then

The provos But all the people Who broke up Just for some reason Who's flickly are all monkeys Yeah It'd feel that

You know Charged racially Somehow Hmm Yeah So Yeah you did draw us As monkeys

In your newspapers For quite a while Hey look I don't hear You guys Come out with better ideas So Suggest some new rules

They split over Like Marxist Leninism. I think one of them are quite like studenty hardcore Leninists so I don't remember

which one maybe the provos they're more like guerrilla struggle they're more into yeah that's Jerry Adams as types like

kind of you know Allegedly yeah definitely oh no sorry definitely allegedly

yeah sorry definitely allegedly Jerry Adams says he was definitely involved at all points and then that's it

the also the UDA this is what's formed in response to the proe at the split in December so then

scroll down basically I want to get to 72 71 oh yeah here you go so Operation Demetrius there's a few skirmishes British Army are starting to kill I know some battles the IRA in 71 um I reckon the cups of tea are starting to stop at this point I would say at least the tea's getting weaker yeah yes no sugar no sugar those are the rules so um Operation Demetrius which is the British government introduces widespread internment which is for the dum-dums watching, internment is jailing people who are a quote-unquote foreign enemy

without any kind of trial. It's a wartime thing. If you've got bad vibes, you go to prison. Bad vibes you're in prison. No questions, no answers. Well, they often write, though. It's the thing that they... You've got to trust your instincts, isn't you?

Trust your gut. Trust your gut. You look a bit sheepish. Let's bang you up. One of the craziest things that's ever happened is Vogue Williams wrote an article saying that they need to bring back internment for Muslims.

wow yeah my therapist ghosted me it's a picture of her in a bikini and then article that's fit right say that again sorry picture of her in a bikini and then an article that she wrote about how in turning Muslims when when was this was this like I think it was maybe after 7 7 no I don't really wow yeah might be 7 7 so she's been around for a while chaz when was it nice person I was on her podcast but that is mad 2011 that's quite recently

14 years a lot can happen wow who's pre-2012 before the end of the world before the Olympics yeah if you say we're going to jail all Muslims

you do get their threats yeah they um they do like that doesn't promote debate what's the debate that we should arrest all those you've got to show a balanced I'm trying to start a healthy debate

about jailing everyone of a different faith. Now, you can threaten me with religious murder, but that's not adding to the debate. Debate me in the marketplace of ideas. Volga Williams and Salman Rushney. Yeah.

Yeah. Christ. Get him on the podcast. Yeah. So sorry, this is her and Spencer Matthews from Maiden Chelsea. Yeah. And she's... But what?

Is this like a... A chick mag. It's like page three. A chick mag, right? Zoom I did a little bit, Charlie. There's a her and a bikini next to it. In page, page three in the sun, they always have the girls' political opinions.

in like a three like But this is double whammy for Muslims as well Look at this Exposing yourself like that And right Yeah Yeah I see Yeah

It's so funny You have a bikini picture And then the headline And tournament Camps are grim Yes I mean it's fucking mad But that is my If you see all the kind of like

Instagram models They post such nonsense In their captions It's a nice vibe It would be much funnier If the Instagram model's posted Like Like intense

Intent far right Pets Yeah Yeah Yeah the boats. Don't unpack, you're going back. So, keep Britain, British.

So Vogue Williams in turns, most of the Catholic population of Belfast, they basically, they start mass arresting nationalists and Republicans. However, very little of them have anything to do with the IRA. It turns out. Guys. They just support Celtic.

You've got a big head and a Celtic top. You're getting in my van. And they're held and like, like, interrogated. tortured like horrific conditions and then they come out and go well who's fighting those guys sign me up like it's basically the British Army just recruited a bunch of guys who didn't care it's a big boo-boo really from the Brits

which there are bigger booboos coming I'd say it's the last big boo-boo the Britsnake and the troubles so August 9th violence erupts across Northern Ireland 22 people killed including 11 civilians shot by the British Army in Bally Murphy massacre I don't know anything about the Bally Murphy just around the corner from there yeah

yeah was he was he around this time ball murphy same um yeah yeah my dad would have been born in 1962 was he and was your dad born in in balfast yeah so is your grandparents to move from italy yeah um so and mine like my nono my dad's dad like didn't really he just wanted like run his business and like have a good time but he was like he was interned for like a couple days like stood against the wall like tortured basically stood against the wall for two days that's what he used to do standing against the wall face the wall face the wall yeah it's like real face the wall for two days.

Think about what you've done and he was like, I didn't do anything but fucking think about it about doing something. And your dad's a spaghetti paddy, right? Fuck it.

He's yawking. He's absolutely smash that for six. He's run down the wicket spaghetti paddy into the stands. He's a big yawky, boy. Yeah.

Yeah. Past tomato potatoes. Well, we should, we should talk about the yeah, the Nocky Irish because it's, I didn't realize there's a lot of Italians

moving and they all start ice cream businesses. Is this what they do? Pretty much, yeah. My Italian. relatives started an ice cream business i guess that's kind of you've got italian relatives yeah do you know i wish you keep that quiet around me

yeah around you obviously yeah yeah the smell of a catholic you start whack a mole yeah get the all you're seeing in these boys um so why why were so many Italians going to belfast in particular i don't know is it just because it's catholic probably that's part of it but like

they fucked up right it's way earlier it's like it's like one war two is when russia move over god that's unlucky for them all right they've completely fucked they arrive in a place escaping a war? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's probably the worst place you could go if they knew what was going to happen. Yeah, we're escaping World War II. Where should we move? Gaza. Yeah. So... Well, that's what the Israelis did.

Yeah. Yes, that is true. That is literally how Israel was founded. God, these guys don't see the Legos. Where should we move? I know. Who's second on that list of people who don't like us?

Let's move it. Let's move in. with them. Let's see how that goes. Let's forcibly move in with them. Remember me? Remember me from thousands of years? I'm a victim now for a bit. For a bit.

We'll see. I'm not putting a definite thing on that. So blah, blah, blah. SDRP withdraws from Stormont and protest against internment. British soldier killed by the IRA. That's disgraceful. Disgraceful. I feel sick to my story.

This is a horrible. Balmofi Massacre is the same. So yeah, what's the Balmy Murphy Massacre gone? It's the same unit or whatever the fuck it's called of like the paratroopers as Bloody Sunday. The first parrots. And it's before Bloody Sunday. Right.

But why does this one get all the. Well, we'll get to Bloody Sunday because that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, then the McGurke's barbombing, which is quite bad. That's, a lot of this is a, so bombs are starting to go off. That's the loyalist bombing in Belfast. Yeah. Now, what, so loyalist Protestants, right? Yeah. Why are they...

See, this is the thing that English people know absolutely nothing about this. What are they blowing pubs? Ladd. Terrorism. But lad, you run all the shit. Who...

Listen, why are you terrible? No Catholics around some pubs. Listen. Well, that's... The whole 70s, Northern Ireland, is a case of everyone shitting on their doorstep. Right. It's only when they start to export it to England,

they start shitting on... That would get sorted out. Yeah. Well, it's quite funny. It's like, a lot of it's, like, all this, the Paisleyism was just them having this, like little bit of the country carved out for them in the 20s

and then for years just being dead nervous that if they gave any of it away siege mentality. Yeah, yeah the whole time they were just like no no, no, no don't touch it. Fuck off. Fuck off. It's a straight man whose wife wants to play with his asshole. Yeah, don't go anywhere near that. No, I don't want.

That door is locked. That door is shut. Could we like maybe have jobs and votes and they're like, don't fucking stay away for me. If you give them a job, they'll fucking take it all. Give me an inch they'll take a mile That's the So genuinely Why do they blow up

Why do they blow up this ball Do you know why? I don't know Is it just because They put it up to four pounds of pint Yeah Retaliation Is a lot of it

Of like Tip for tap Basically So we do this Yeah Yeah So it's ramping up 71 It's

You know You're on to sort of medium heat I reckon Mm-hmm On the Nando scale On the Nando scale Yeah Lemnon Herb is kind of the 69

Let's say Moving into What's the first What's the first level of spice Nando's? It's medium Then it's hot Then it's extra hot

Mild Mild medium 17 miles 71 medium hot 72 is like The hottest it gets Yeah Yeah

72 is the It's the bloodiest year Of the conflict I believe so yeah I think 476 people die Half of them are civilians Um

So Rubbish January Yeah Big boo-boos on all sides January 30th, 1972. Bloody Sunday.

Now in 1972 there's going to be a bloody Sunday there's a bloody Friday it's a bit like that Craig David's song except every day there's a bomb bag

on the bread on Monday got shot in the back on Tuesday we were doing car bombs on Wednesday and on Thursday Friday

we're starting again on Sunday we didn't chill on Sunday we killed on Sunday yeah exactly it's one of the least chill Sundays of all the time

Sunday's the day you have off yeah well for the The protesters in Derry, it was bloody Sunday. But for some of the British troops, it was Sunday Fonday. Do the IDF chill on, like, the Sabbath and stuff? They must do, mustn't they?

Well, they chill out on the drone strikes. But I guess they don't view it as work. It's just dead fun. No, because if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're hobbies. But what's that thing? If you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life. You know, boys. What's that thing about how, you know, there's the, the, the, the Orthodox Jews.

they can't even like use toilet paper on Sundays you know that thing they all have little tricks well that makes sense so they have lights that are on but you like twist the thing you twist a thing yeah yeah and it's like

it's like you have a stick that pushes a button and you're not pushing the button because it's the stick that's doing that they're so sneaky so do you want to put the baller clubber back on yeah yeah yeah so I gave that one a leave

yeah a classic gold leave there yeah something very good about chilling on Sunday and the star of Craig David something in there come on star of Craig David

Excellent stuff It's a borderline disability We'll do some stitching And that's a bit It is It is It's a curse And a superpower

What they say about ADHD When people say that Fuck off Yeah stop complaining about it then Yeah Yeah You can't have it both ways You know that Superman

Going oh Laser eyes Oh You can complain about It's really tough Give me extra time My exams I've got laser eyes

I've got a superpower I want a laptop That's the superpower Do you get a free fucking laptop Now it would be a good film and you're not disabled that's a superpower

The Avengers She's in a chair and can't walk You get a laptop Because you can't concentrate That is a superpower Fucking free lunch What a super power

What a great deal Yeah basically It'd be very funny If ADHD Like they stopped giving them Extra time in exams They just give them a little monitor They had subway surfer on it

Yeah Yeah But if it's a super power If you had the Avengers And it was just people With mild learning difficulties Yeah I'd like to see that film

Where the Aliens Attack New York and it's just an ADHD guy, dyslexic guy with discalcunia, just getting wiped out of media. What's discalcunia? Is it dyslexia with numbers? Calcula, you've said it absolutely mad, but yeah. It is. I think it is actually putting around, it's discalculia.

Discalculia? There's no way. Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, but you're famously, you have whatever. How's it's the pronunciation? You have all of it. I actually rinse someone for saying it that way and then I think I was proved wrong.

There's a chance I've had the worst of both well too. Makes it difficult to understand numbers and maths. No, yeah. Yeah. So it's numbers dyscalcala dyslexia Yeah

It can happen At a age Discalculia Let's hear it Let's hear it It's how you said You have to say it again Which I think is wrong

You should change Discalculia It sounds great In all the Irish Disc yeah Because what did you say earlier Was a great thing to say Legitimate

Legitimate We're a legitimate Political party Martin Alley Martin Alley Yeah We're saying that you guys You just have

You have a a vacation in every syllable. You're chilling out, you're sitting down, you're setting up, you're there. You're running into him all hard. Kings of the diphton. You're setting up, open a can. So, Bloody Sunday, big march against internment in dairy.

Derry, as you said, is probably the spiciest place for a prod to go. It depends. There's the waterside and the bog side. Waterside's Protestant bogside. But at this point, by this point there is a bracket, you are now entering free dairy. Yeah, the guy painted out on the wall

when the march was happening, when those like civil rights marches were happening in the late 60s, yeah, yeah. Well, this is interesting how many bloody Sundays they are. Look at this, because there's a bloody Sunday obviously in 905 of Russia, which led to the Russian Revolution.

1905 and the South, the one is Selma. So this does seem to be, yeah. Well, listen, it's civil rights. They're taking, they take. They take up the local, and they? Yeah. What's mad is like these soldiers

are currently being, like, put on trial. Are they? Like right now, yeah. Well, there's a, yeah, there's a big, take your fucking time, guys. Well, we'll get to that. There's two inquires. and the first one is shockingly quickly

and it's basically like, nope, nothing to see here, everything's fine. I don't look. Yeah, the shortest VAR of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just genuinely. Do we come look at this? No, I'm all right.

No, no, I've seen it on the big screen, actually. It's fine. On the third, it's fine. Yeah. Two-footed from behind in the back of the head. No, fine. Absolutely fine.

Cantonon, I didn't touch that fan, actually. Yeah. Yeah, that is what Bloody Sunday is. Bloody Sunday is Cantonon are Kung Fu kicking a fan of the stands. And I've gone and play. on. Yeah, basically, yeah.

So it's a march against internment in dairy. By this point, there's free dairy, which is basically a no-go area for the British Army. It's essentially run by the dairy IRA, which is McGuinness. Maybe not at this point,

but he's knocking about. He's there. He's there. He's just always, he's like Homer Simpson in the hedge. He's just, he's in like all the photos. Yeah.

Like from that time, it's just McGinnis in the background. He's John Terry at the end of the 2012. Does he? He's in his full kick. Jail is the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the opposite of that of like he took all the kid off yeah yeah he's someone you can't remember who actually won the cup he chose Jose Basinger you're like oh fuck he won the did he win the champion

yeah he was that bad allegedly he's crazy why don't you just shave the middle bit allegedly um so the basically there's like there's a route that's agreed I don't really know this I'll get it wrong fucking it's basically like the orange order do their marches and go into Catholic areas or beside Catholic areas there's the apprentice boys who watch now the apprentice boys yeah they're They all get fired from the apprentice of

little suitcase They got fired So they've just left Alan Sugar's Tower and they've got their suitcases Thank you for the

opportunity Alan The wheelie suitcase along the dairy walls Yeah yeah You're fired And then the Brits

are like Oh my beer Did someone say fire Yeah Yeah that's what happens So that's good Clean fun

Not that this was This was this was bloody bloody stuff but so good clean fun was the original Sunday

until the reports came up the first report said I don't know why you're calling a bloody Sunday we're calling it good clean fun Sunday

wholesome Sunday so there's an agreed route for the march for the nationalist march it's at some point the army like try and funnel it in a different way

through free dairy maybe I didn't really pay attention to that bit of the podcast I listened to the other day anyway there are people start throwing

stones rocks disgusting these are Protestants throwing stones and rocks okay well

I'm sure they had their reasons people are throwing rocks which you know it's like oh that's the whole

episode that's 2000 years of Irish history that's Irish cricket that's Irish polo that's Irish that's Irish cooking Irish cooking

so there are throwing rocks and then unnamed soldiers Soldier F, Soldier F, Soldier V, there's a few other ones Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy. He decides to crank that.

You, right. He says, now you, get out of the way. Now you, get out of the way. They don't listen. I don't listen to Soldier Boy, so he has to crank that. That's why he's dead? Yeah, yeah, he had to crank. Is he dead?

And he came back. He was like, fixed him and then came back and said the drinks of allegations of Bloody Sunday. Oh, right, okay. so basically there's a there's quite a lot of to summarize quite a lot of irish young people get shot in the back hoity tooty hoity hoity tooty people get shot in the back by the british forces who are whole up in like a big warehouse and they then sort of go through the corpses and put

some nail bombs on them and say you were about to throw that i had to shoot you so uh now that is maybe you still disputed i don't know if you know there's some i think it's been a agreed and like David Cameron apologize. Well, he definitely apologized. They were unarmed and that was bad. There was just no, there was absolutely just no, yeah. It was one of them was like disabled or that might be a different incident where like a disabled was it like ADHD or serious?

No, no. It was a superpower, which is what they show. They bounced off. Yes, they got mistaken between the ADHD superpower and. The one were fullest of the fact of them. That soldier F's argument anyway. I thought they'd bounce off. That's a matter.

That's a superpower, right? You can see it. But then these soldiers, do we know who Soldier F is? Yeah, someone might. Like, you just had a picture of them.

Yeah, that was him, right. But they're like, they're like 19, 20. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, some of them were a little bit older, but yeah. But was it the policy of the thing,

or was it? This is big, Facebook does, I stand with Soldier F type stuff. Where you're popular pride, I stand with Soldier F. Fucking hell. What are you standing with him for?

Against a grave betrayal by the British government. Oh, because the government in 2010, a man doing his job how dare this government let this happen so hang on so this is it's after Cameron's apologised for Bloody Sunday it's seven years ago or is this because the trial of soldier F comes up recently it just like comes it like it goes through the courts very slowly yeah so basically at the end of Bloody Sunday they open fire on a march of people running away civil rights

march and then they start running away and they're just like and they start the snipers like shooting back of the head and stuff it's a big big poopy no-no from the bridge So they just lose their head, basically? Well, their argument in the testimony is that they, they, they, they, they misheard, there's a possibility that like, there were some guns fired in the distance by the IRA, because the IRA were like, Martin McGuinness did, allegedly, definitely, give someone some nail bombs to go and throw, but I think the, what they found was that there was no way he was going to throw them and he got shot in the back.

And he was probably like 15 or something, I don't know. it's all just quite bad from the Brits Poor form It's poor form Porn lad And then like there are mad Because the whole thing about like Oh they're just like 19 year olds

I get that And they've been whipped up into a thing There are like videos of interviews With British soldiers In Northern Ireland at the time It's like well if we could just kill all the patties It would be over quite quickly And it's just like

Wow It's hard to be like You didn't know what you were in Yeah yeah So they Smoking out of like using skulls as ash trays And all The 197

There's an inquiry in 73 or 4 I think where they basically say the Brits acted. They were fired upon. They acted with no... Then in 2010, the other inquiry... That's the Saville inquiry, I think.

Not the Inquiry to Saville. That's something else. We love an inquiry. But Jimmy Saville did an inquiry... Jimmy Saville did an inquiry... Into how... And he went, you killed kids? Yeah.

Booh! We had to do an inquiry into why Jima was Saville was allowed to do an inquiry. How we let him get that high up. Yeah, yeah. Now then, now then, now then. Inquiry who let Jimmy Salter.

So, anyway. Yeah, we're very much in, this is very much, post-war, it's very much the inquiry era of British history. Yeah, right.

Yeah, you're not doing much inquiring before that. Yeah, a lot of it's just the fucking, it was whack-a-moles. Very much living in the moment. Yeah,

yeah. British history from 1600 to 1944 is, nah, let's just fucking go with it. Move on. We're quite a lucky, water under the bridge.

Yeah, yeah. We're quite a lucky to be born in the inquiry era because now we're just, piecing through it all. Digging up everything. Everything we've ever done. Yeah, but it's like

WhatsApp group messages taken out of context. Yes, in the pure light of day, that looks bad, but you don't know. But the Facebook, but this is the Facebookification of this, like, soldier half conversation where they're like, this is woke nonsense.

Yeah, you can't even shoot kids anymore. You can't shoot kids in the back running away, unarmed. Yeah. Peacig on mad. Yeah. So, blah, blah, blah.

more shooting the army the army entered into the bog side starts making arrest they basically what the army want to do is clean up free dairy they don't like that there's a no goes out of the street it's a very dirty place yeah so it's a well-functioning council based yes it's like the this is essentially a local council of an element it's these are bin collectors that got but it's like the DMs you and the demarcated zone or whatever in Washington when was that after george Floyd you know they they like they like blocked off like an area like a few blocks where the police couldn't go in

and like oh right like they were like we run these blocks right it's sort of that there was like a bunch of the like Catholic enclave so you're just yeah yeah

it is important it's like like the British government like like on like revolved devolved like basically took it imposed a direct rule yeah so about six weeks after Bloody Sunday then they basically just go

they shut Stormant down and they go they're done a bad job of it yeah storming haven't got things on control for the British government They were like Things have gotten out of hand

It was like sorry Who shot everyone? No no no No no It's our mess We'll clean it up So they impose direct rule And then in July

The British government They're like You know when you spill a pint And you ask them For blue rule at the barn You're like no no no I'll do it I'll do it I'll do it

No no no I'll do it It's called manners Victoria Yeah Yeah One side still has some manners So Operation Motorman

it happens July, which is basically the British Army decide to retake all the no-go areas. They come in really hot, like 20,000 people, they just go, nip this in the bud. 20,000 must, they'll do night night, good, woodwork chaps, that's the end of it. Then,

Bloody Friday. This is the biggest instance of shitting on your own doorstep that's been, I think. Yeah, they really fucked it up. And I hate this phrase, but the patty factor of like, and this is, do you know what this phrase? No. It's basically, it's a free of,

The British government Is that like the X-Facture? The opposite of the X-Fatio's podcast. Louis Walsh will make you a big star either way. That's Louis Walsh's kind of spin-off talent show is the patty factor. Right, yeah. The party factor is basically what the British government

referred to when like the IRA would just set the timers wrong or blow themselves up by accident or like not phone in in time. Because the IRA's thing like in terms of policy was they don't want to kill civilians. Like they phone up and they want to do property damage,

they want to make a point, they want to make a statement, but they don't want to kill civilians. And you could argue the best way to do that is to not set off a bomb. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

boring. If you're being a peasant about it, you could say, well, how about you defuse that massive bomb? They just had a hage of infrastructure. Yes, they had buildings.

They wanted to go live in mud hud, so you're not allowed to say that. These guys were town planners with an agenda. so bloody friday yeah um they provisional IRA which is the naughty naughty IRA the real agate one and this is the other one like running this the belfast brigade at this time and mcginis is the derelict allegedly whatever yeah and mcginus is the at this point he's the big guy is he in the IRA McGinnis I mean Jerry's pretty fucking I mean this is like all insane nothing that TV show that's like that you absolutely should watch yeah yeah he's a watch but yeah

this is when Jerry Adams run on the show with the guy called Brandon Hughes. Yes, yeah. McGuinness, this is one of my favorites. McGinnis is just an amazing character. I just obsessed with them. I just love.

I don't know much about him. Oh, man. So he, this is skipping forward a bit, but in 19774 or five, I think that he goes for a sit down with the British governments in Westminster and a few of the other IRA guys

and it's like a back channel secret. Let's try and stop the violence. Wasn't Jerry Adams there? Allegedly. Allegedly, definitely there. I think he was there. Like he admits that he was yeah but on holiday

because British politicians are like you were there he was visiting the London Eye I think they're going to source be cathedral isn't it so

the whispering gallery at some polls yeah he uh but so McGuinness is then it's like four of them and then meeting Willie White Law

who's the secretary of state for Northern Ireland Willie White Law firm secretary I think he played up played up front for United is it is you a more Protestant name

William White Law William and then the two things they love them most. Whites in the law. Yeah, so Willie White Laws to the secretary. That's a big concession by McGuinness and Adams to meet a man called William White. Yeah. So they go for a meeting with him in Downing Street and then basically it turns

out that McGinnis had a gun in his pocket. And then he's asked about this in the last year's and he goes, well, that's true that I went to meet the man about to talk about to see a first, but I think what I'm wearing is none of your concern. What I'm wearing? What are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah. This victim blaming? yeah yeah yeah what we see what were you wearing Martin you had a gun in your pocket in 10 down street it's cold it's cold fashion

look it up yeah yeah listen we do things differently in belfast the fashion tansson belfart's very different from the mainland as you like it that's a very good Jerry Adams it's a bad McGinnis but it's a very good jr 15

well I look like Jerry Adams that's the other reason yeah yeah yeah yeah I shouldn't faint I think me and you together look like Jerry Adams we morphed our faces no you're more McGinnis you're McGinnis everybody looks like him there's two types of people

in the world. That's me and you. If I put your glasses on it's, I'm Jerry Adams. No, old Adam, yeah. Yeah.

Fucking hell. Yeah. Can you get up the picture of him with an AK 47 allegedly? But it's a picture. Allegedly. Type in Jerry Adams

allegedly holding an AK 47. Well, you don't know. That's him. I mean, that's pretty allegedly. That's him and Brandon Hughes down at the left. Yeah.

Well, there he is. Yeah, it is. I've got that. I've got that. I've got that on my fridge. It's pretty cut and dry. Yeah. Well, how do they not throw them in jail?

I was like him out. Guilty. So, anyway, so Bloody Friday, we should also, I don't know, when do Charlie, can you Google when the Aldershot bomb is? Because that's in 72. Oh, yeah. They blow up some pretty nasty places in England. They bomb.

I can't remember when. I can't remember when, like, the England campaign starts. Like, when do they start? Well, it's not. It's 74, I think. But they bomb Aldershots, which drastically improves, uh, olders shot. Yeah. But they don't kill...

All they kill is some female cleaners. So that's a big PR disaster. Just some Caribbean women. Just some Caribbean women. Yeah. So Bloody Friday, basically, they detonate 20 bombs in 80 minutes in and around Belfast.

Now, presumably, you're like, dad must have lived through this. And I heard it, yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently it was I'm fucking mad. It sounds fucking crazy. There's a story... Hey, have I ever spoken to my dad about it? No.

No, of course not. You come on a podcast of lesson, talk about it. yeah but it's just like it's a conversation i would like i'm just too scared to ask because they have never they're they say nothing they are the saying often they just fucking never talk to my generation about any of it well so the podcast i listened to so 20 bombs go off in 80 minutes now the IRA say afterwards that they called um it is funny there's a list of people they called they claim half an hour to an hour before every bomb went off they told the location The Ghostbusters every time.

Yeah, they call, these are the people they called, the Samaritans, and they're like, this is not the right line for this, the local council. Where are you talking to if you're going to kill yourself? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to kill 100 people. Right, that's, that's not me. Or any of them you. Yeah, are you included?

They call the Samaritans, they call the local council. They call the media, that's all they say, it's just the media. So, no, no, it's probably the local paper. Some guys probably having a pint of this because of the 70s. The media, they call one Jews. guy you're you the media you the guy running it um so uh but they also before the first bomb goes off they're calling a load of hoax the hoax bombs to basically confuse the network it means that the police then shut off streets so that when the actual bombs start going off they

can't get to them to help so it's incredibly well orchestrated own goal essentially because they they kill nine people injure hundreds um why are they doing this to basically show their strength as a paramilitary organization because this is also this is the year of the first car bomb so what they do on bloody Friday is they are they buy cars and they stack them with bombs

and they leave them outside shops or whatever banks they get guns at gunpoint and they carjack kick people out nick their cars put bombs to them it's like GTA bombs from Boston bombs from Libya is where they get a lot of the in the 70s they're getting it from Libya are they

I think that might be later on little early But what they also do is that all the timers they use are car parking meters from America, fun fact. Wow. Because there's loads of Boston gangsters who were like, is it Whitey Bulger? Is that as far? Yes, yes. Because they all want to be Irish.

Yeah. But they had like, the RA had like, I'm Irish. That's it. Yeah. They had like these little like almost missionaries and like PR guys who went around the world talking to people like Gaddafi and these Boston gangsters. Right. were like basically and they would just like play on whatever side of it they could like to fundraise so they would go to like a republican group and they would play up the republican nationalist side of it

but then they would go to like lefty groups and be like no it's communism they would like get funding from all over the fucking yes just so bloody friday the initial oh yeah this is the thing i heard so there's a guy it's all car bombs basically there's a guy leaning against the car by a bus station just like having a back right he the car explodes and such as the straight to the explosion that he's fine but he flies lands on top

of the bus station and has all his limbs and everything that's so imagine me and that guy he's just get on the top deck of the bus and he's like

oh right just carries on smoking he's like where's the door on the top day he doesn't know he has his lungs are damaged

and he then dies from lung damage like 20 years later forget about that the funny bit is that it's just blown onto the roof of the wall

but it's yeah basically it's They then tell the... It's show of strength but what it's in their own areas. It's what I mean. It's look how big the shit I can do on my own doorstep.

Look how big of a poo I can do. Is that... Kind of and obviously like you say it's in their own areas. It's not... It's in like town. It's in like... But also I guess they're saying

it's like the Protestant run. This is Britain. This is the British run thing. Right. So it's guerrilla warfare, I guess. But to the Brits, we're just like, you're just pooing in your own.

What are you doing? What are you doing? Which is a big mistake. you guys yeah because it turns out it turns out that when they find out where to shit

we get it we get shouts on quite a lot in the preceding time you should have gone what don't do that no way no no no no there's no toilets over here

please please don't point your toilets at 10 Downing Street so they initially think it's a big success they're like this is great we showed how many bubbles

we can set off and then they see the Catholic population literally walk around with bin bags sweeping body parts into bags and they're like this is a big PR booboo they really fucked it and if they apologize you know all these people have apologized for stuff stupidly recently for the first time like in the last 10 years they were like yeah sorry about that actually yeah from Jerry Adams right because Jerry Adams sorry for what those guys did

well Jerry Adams he was in the Bahamas I think he was in the Bahamas just having a nice time he's like the end of the end of the end of the silence of the Lambs just walking into the distance yeah he's Kevin Spacey at the end of the usual suspect. It's limping. The escalation of the troubles, that's 9-72. That's the end of this episode.

We're going to do, Vitori's going to stick around. We're going to do a Patreon episode about informants, steak-knife in particular. Because that's fucking sick. Thanks, Colin, Vitorio. Thank you very much.

We're going to carry on, whenever we can get Vittorio, we're going to do a troubles. We're going to carry on the troubles. Yeah, we'll just do a recurring. We'll just get through it all, slowly. This is so fun. Yeah.

Great. Any tour dates coming up? Nothing on tour. I'm doing the Edinburgh fridge. Oh, actually, fucking, I'm an idiot. I'm in Australia and America. Oh, nice. People listen from here.

Yeah. We've got a big Australian contingent. Yeah. We put the next Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, and then in America, it's Boston, Chicago, wherever the IRA got funding from. Yeah, Boston, Chicago, Libya. You're not touring. You're going to get more fun.

Yeah, Toronto, Philadelphia, New York. And then Mike and Victoria's guide to parenting. Yes, check out. And you've been a guest on, and you will be a guest on. Yes, I still need to do it. Brilliant pod. Very good fun, all that stuff. Before we go, you were going to give us a balaclava, depending on who.

Yeah, I mean, I really can't tell which of you, neither of you were hugely on the right side of history there. But I think you get one balaclava each. Finn, you get the white one. Are you joking? Ocabooca Puga gets a balaclava. That's a new kid's book I'm writing. Whoca Puga's balaclava? I just want to see the glasses as well.

Oh, that's true. The glasses on balaclava's great. For Jerry Adams, what do you put his glasses over? I mean, this is embarrassing. How badly you fuck that up. There we go. Beautiful boys. So, um, thanks for, thanks for watching.

Stick around. Stick around. See, Victoria on the page. This is why Jerry Adams is now. We are a legitimate political party. This is where Jerry Adams is never in the IRA. That looks insane. Yeah.

Well, he couldn't have been. He couldn't have been. He couldn't have been. Because also, it completely doesn't. My name's not Jerry. It completely doesn't. away an anonymity if you have one guy with glasses. Jerry who? Right. My name's Jerry Mandarin. Jerry Mandarin. Thanks for watching. Stick around. Join the page and see

Victoria's dig around. And if not, we'll see you next time. Good night. See yes. Thank you.