Fin vs History - The Worst Prime Minister You’ve Never Heard Of: Alec Douglas-Home | Post War British Prime Ministers, 1945-1979
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Welcome back to Finn versus history.
It's the big one.
The big one.
It's Alec Douglas Hume time.
The one you've been waiting for.
You can rest easy.
We're finally getting to the goat.
It's here.
The big one.
Finally.
Don't worry.
We've got to.
We have listened to your comments.
Yeah.
Every week we have people begging us to do this topic.
Douglas Hume, when?
Yeah.
And we're like, look, we want to establish ourselves first.
We want to, we want to practice what it means to do, a comedy history podcast.
Douglas Hume, when, when, when, when?
Cowards.
Cowards.
Release it.
You won't do it.
Release it now.
You won't do it.
You won't do it.
You're scared of being sentenced.
You're scared.
You're scared of touching the great man.
Sir Alec Douglas Hume, the man, the myth, the legend.
Sir Alec Douglas, who?
Yeah.
Exactly. I'd not heard of him before we started doing this series.
I think I'd heard of every Post World British Prime Minister, at least in a passing way.
Yeah.
But this is the only one I had literally no idea.
Genuinely, we could have arguably skipped this one if we weren't doing the test cricket approach to the series.
You can't skip a session of test cricket.
There's lulls.
That's not test cricket.
There will be lulls.
That's what makes it exhilarating when there's no lulls is that it goes in and out.
You don't know how exciting it is unless you've been bored for the previous hour.
So this is a real, there's no, there's no wickets during this session.
No, it's a rain delay.
This is a, yeah, this is a very, what would you say this is?
This is basically boycotts opening on a good wicket, but he's not scoring.
Because a lot of the stuff we said about McMillan being like the last vestiges of the old world,
kind of one of the last Edwardians, kind of, it actually applies to Alec Douglas Hume,
but he just doesn't really count.
No, I mean, because he's an atonian old boy.
Yeah, our criteria for the series.
series as if your portrait is in Downing Street, then we're doing an episode, at least one
episode on you.
And, uh, you know, the rest of history aren't doing this.
No.
Cowards.
No one's touching this.
Dan Snow is not touching this.
Uh, which has meant, Joe Rogan is not touching this.
It has meant this series has been quite hard to research this episode.
Yeah.
Um, because I think we are the first history podcast to tackle Alec Douglas Hume.
What is interesting is because we have so many thick, many listeners, uh, a lot of people will
not ever think about Sir Alec Douglas Hume.
apart from this podcast.
So even though it's maybe not the most respected history,
it is maybe one of the most popular histories of Sir Alec Douglas Hume.
This will be the most complete history out there.
This will actually add to the historiography.
We're changing his legacy because I think before this episode,
a lot of people will never know who he is.
But they'll listen to this.
If someone brings him up, they will just remember this episode.
Do you know what we're doing with this?
People who listen to this,
we are giving them absolute weapons-grade hum-actualies
for a dinner party.
Yeah, yeah.
Clear a dinner party.
How many primers are allowed, if you, if you don't have a smelly fart in you,
bring up Sir Alec Douglas Hume to clear a room.
I think we went, uh, when a mill and then, uh, Wilson dinner.
Oh, actually, Sir Alec Douglas Hume for eight months.
Um, Alec Douglas Hume was prime minister for 363 days.
Now, is that, Charlie, is that more or less than trust?
It's way less, way more.
Is it?
Truss was 42 days.
Was trust only 42 days?
Yeah.
You're having to laugh?
No.
Four to two days.
Alex Keeley has that great bit about if she lives to like 90,
she will have spent more days at the cenotaph or Remembrance Sunday than she was in power.
Wow.
Because she gets invited back every year.
That's, I mean, God, she's Sean Bright though.
Yeah.
And she was the prime, was she the prime minister when the queen died at the Queen's funeral?
Yeah, she killed the queen.
In 42 days, she was the fight.
From Churchill to trust.
Yeah.
Elizabeth's story with the prime ministers.
Yeah, and in many ways,
Sir Alec Douglas Hume, the biggest thing that happens
during his raid is that JFK gets assassinated.
Oh, fuck.
So he's the guy.
Right.
So he's kind of the only thing that happens.
Yeah.
So you do some research on this,
and the premiership is Sunday only served as PM for 363 days,
didn't implement any major policies or change anything.
Yeah.
So it's, um...
Tough start.
It's a tough start.
You're starting to get a sense of why Sandbrook isn't touching this.
nothing happens.
Let's do average house prices.
In keeping with the series,
Douglas Hume comes to power in 63.
Firstly, I'd like to play 63, if you would.
1963, this is after Hungary's been invaded by the Soviets.
And it's before Alex Hurricane Higgins
takes snooker by storm.
And I do think...
Well, what was that?
So when was the Golden Age of Snook?
Is that 70s?
Late 70s into the 80s.
I think Alex Hurricane Higgins
wearing a purple fedora
is how I imagine our listeners
when they get invited to a funeral
or christening
you can find the picture
of him wearing a purple fedora
but there was a period in the 70s
that Snoke was more popular
than football
that is how our listeners
dress for a funeral
they go well if it's smart
if it's smart
if it's smart I'm wearing my multicol
I'm wearing my magic eye waistcoat
my bowtied my purple fedora
oh coin minderia
yeah they're amateur magicians
World War II Memorial
coin behind your ear? Oh, lovely stuff. Tesco's
1998 World Cup, Memoirs of Coin behind the year.
Alec Douglas Hume, 63 to 64.
This is the last great establishment
steering of the
of the country, really.
House prices, the average house price is
£2,840, just about 50 grand in today's money.
Unemployment rate is 3.6%.
It's going up a lot. It's going up.
The house has been built to a certain extent
the jobs are getting less.
There's less to do.
And McMillan is when you start to see the tension
in the planned economy
in that the trade unions are making a lot of noise
about paying more
and we're starting to get into the issues
that will define the rest of Britain's political life
until Mommy comes to wake us up.
So, Mommy, Mommy's not around yet.
Mummy's not come out.
She might be having a, I've had her twins.
Did you know, actually, apparently Dennis Thatcher, her husband.
You know how he's portrayed as like
the weakest husband ever.
It's because she kept him out of the,
deliberately portrayed him like that
because he was the most racist man
that's ever lit.
And he was,
he was pro-Safcan-Afghan apartheid.
She basically like,
can you make it seem like you're a dithering idiot?
Because if you're actually getting from the cameras,
you're going to ruin my life.
Right, right, right.
So in 63, she was MP.
Finchley.
Love an MP.
Shadow Minister for Pensions.
Mommy.
Okay, she's a minister.
She's an MP.
She's in the house.
Right.
It's comforting to know.
mummies in the house.
Mummy's at home.
She's not yet nursing us back to health, but she's at home.
So in 1963, let's deal with Britain.
The 60s are in, are starting to come on now.
The Beatles have got their first number one.
Is that the first number one?
Or it's the Christmas number one.
I want to hold your hand.
So the music's getting recognizably good now.
But also, this is when music starts to get like sexual.
Yeah.
You're holding hands.
This is where the girls are literally strumming.
themselves silly at concerts.
But it's funny
that they're strumming themselves silly
at the idea of
a beetle holding their hands.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, it's not this, it's not waft.
Four men with bowl cuts
holding their hands.
Yeah, and they're like,
ah, ah, you know,
they're like,
Freddie getting themselves.
Sane low, like.
Yeah, like,
Stain low's there.
Oh my gosh,
how much it's,
they're just banging it.
They're just throwing mucky pants
of the Beatles.
And they're literally singing
about holding hands.
Yeah.
There's a really nice,
this is where,
I really like the innocence of pop
with the depravity of fandom
because now it all lines up
in that now you know
wet ass pussy and you have guys
wanking the crowd or I don't know
it's all disgusting feels
but in the old days
hold your hand was code
for finger you probably
I don't know maybe
maybe it wasn't
well that's what the teen
but the teens are around now
the teens are a an advertising
but the romance holding your hand
that's enough to get a woman off I guess
yeah
Now, was wet-ass pussy, was that a number one?
Wet-ass pussy.
It was the number one here.
Wet-ass pussy.
Which of the Beatles, do you think, was most likely to release a song called Wet Ass Pussy?
Probably Lenin.
No, it's Ringo.
It's 100%.
It's Octopus's Garden.
This is why we don't let you write the songs, Ringo.
It's a yellow submarine.
It's all water base.
The third one in that trilogy is Wet Ass Pussy.
Soggy Tenton.
I want to be.
Down by the sea.
with a wear towel pussy or muffay um the beach boys are around everybody was surfing surfing us
wap the first episode doctor who starts from russia with love BBC two starts television is
expanding yeah we have BBC two explosion prawn cocktail strange experimental foods are coming in
Arctic roll yeah spotted dick spotted dick spotted roll is 63 that's the local calf does both
with Art de Ronspotter.
Well, I figure Spotted Dick
was much older
because, I mean,
I used to have that at school.
Right.
As a renaissance.
The fittest woman.
Now, I don't know if we did this last.
Oh, we did.
Who's the fittest women?
Gene Shrimpton.
Absolute 60s,
Mega babe.
Now, what are they calling jeans?
People are getting fit now.
People are starting to get fit.
Yeah.
They get it.
Mary Quantz inventing the miniskirt.
Yes, that's a British invention, right?
It's a British invention.
They've got fit, makeup.
They're starting to wear makeup.
And the miniscuit becomes a,
symbol of the sexual revolution.
Yes. People are walking past
the mini skirt shop, shaking their heads.
This is absolute disgrace.
Now, what are we calling Gene Shrimpton's boobs
in this day and age? Puppies.
There's a slang for boobs at this time.
That's a bit gruevier?
Chee-Chi. Look at the puppies
on that. It's a little bit more...
It's sexually aggressive. It's gross.
Puppies is a bit more kind of
like velvet carpet. It's a bit more smooth
because it's the 60s. I think puppies.
I actually think puppies is the grossest one we've
so far. I think if I was in the sexual arena, the sexual theatre. Yeah. The sexual theatre. Yeah. Fight to
the death. It is a fight to the sexual theatre is a theatre theatre of death. Lunger games.
I would, I think, I would more, I'd be more confident about a deploying chandelion.
As in. Go, go, go, go, go, go. I'm thinking about what word, what were, you're having,
I'd use norks. That's what I mean, is you're having sex with your girlfriend. And I don't talk during sex because I'm British. Yeah. But
what are you deployed what word for boobs
are you more like to deploy and it not
end the end the session right
norks chandeliers
bazookas or puppies
I think puppies is disgusting
yeah to call boobs melons
I mean
I think top bollocks is the worst
top bollock look at that top ballacks on that
get your top bollocks out love
get your top bollocks out
baps I like baps
I like yeah but using that in a sexual
You do that from a building site.
Oh, look at that I'm baps.
You've got such lovely baps.
You've got such lovely puppies.
Oh, I want to be sick in my mouth.
Puppies.
Oh, God.
Isn't it horrible?
Yeah.
A pussy and some puppies.
It's a fucking batsy dog's home in your bed.
What about the twins?
Twins is quite a tape.
Show us the twins.
I prefer that to puppies.
I think puppies is astonishingly gross.
I think I coined twins.
What do you mean you coined it?
I think I've made up.
No, you haven't.
No, you haven't.
I've heard it before.
Have you?
Yeah, Charlie.
Well, I made it up out of my own head then.
Show us the twins.
Do you want me to play with your twins?
Do you want me to blow on your twins?
Do you want to look after your twins while you go to the bathroom?
She wants some free childcare this weekend.
Do you look after the twins?
I'll take them around London.
Do we take the twins to the, drop the twins off at the pool?
What's that?
I don't really know.
Drop the twins off at the pool.
Shuff your boobs in the toilet.
So puppies or melons.
Melons is also coming into the parlance.
So, I mean, just before we crack in.
to the, you know, I know that people
at home thinking, get on
with it. People are thinking, why are you holding,
you're edging us? You've been waiting
for six months to do that like Donald's team. Why aren't you
dealing with him? Because I just want
to put a flag in the sand that in the
space of six years,
we've gone from chandeliers, bazookas
norks to puppies.
And by a cheechee, I mean, the
slang for boobs, you can, you can
trace. Spasms of change are happening.
Shuddering change. Shuddering change.
Men are quivering at the sight of norks, puppies, melons.
You know, you can, the permissive society is what I'm trying to get to.
This is what we're tracing.
Yeah.
You know, and it's nice to know that Churchill never called them puppies.
So when did the, the kind of prime of the, because the 60s transfers from swinging 60s, London, transfers to California, late 60s.
The centre of culture for a couple of years is London.
And it's not really like that kind of ever again in this century where it's like the,
Certainly not nowadays in Londonistan.
No, God, no.
But it transfers to California
late 60s.
Right.
So it's actually a very small window
where the newest fashions,
the kind of the most trendy place
in the world is London.
I don't know when that is.
When is the prime swinging 60s London?
I think it's 64 to 67,
but also what Andrew Maher said in his book
is that it's literally 20 people.
Yeah.
That are the London set.
Like it's five rock stars,
a couple of models of the photographer.
It's 20 people.
Most people are living 50s,
If you live in Redding, you don't give a fuck about swinging London
because you're in boring Redding.
Yeah.
It's a couple of streets.
It's a couple of streets in London.
Anyway, let's stop dithering and get in to the big dog.
Alec Douglas Hume becomes Prime Minister because Harold McMillan, his predecessor, his prostate,
his prostate's gone up like a hot air balloon.
He caved in.
It imploded like a submissible in the ocean of not having sex.
He is a lord.
So this is a real establishment stitch up, which paves the way in for Harold Wilson, of course,
is that he has to reject his peerage, and then he contests a constituency of Kinross and West Perthshire.
And so for two weeks, he is a prime minister who belonged to neither the lords nor the commons.
Right.
So it's a complete, you know, if you think about the optics of McMillan falling from, you know, losing the moral authority.
Yeah.
And then the Tory party getting in someone who's not elected a.
call for two weeks.
True old boy.
It's a real old boy stitch up.
Jobs for the boys.
Howard Wilson.
Hand shandies for the lads.
Oh, please.
Please.
Howard Wilson takes issue with this and describes it as a counter-revolution.
So, who is this mysterious man?
Born in 1903,
descendant of a long line of Scottish nobility.
And we're about to Robert the Bruce.
Went to Eaton, obviously.
Now, he mentions in his autobiography,
a son of him's written that.
I mean, who is reading?
Not us.
You get a picture of Hume's autobiography.
What was it called?
What's your time for the picture?
What's you thinking it's called?
My Life and Politics?
At home with Hume.
Douglas HOME.
Well, that's just how his name's felt.
Alec Douglas Home alone and it's up.
Yeah.
The way the wind blows.
An autobiography.
I'd like to read the blurb of that, if you wouldn't mind.
The book offers a glimpse into his life and political career,
particularly his experiences in foreign affairs and diplomacy.
While some readers, you're gone.
While some readers find it as a pleasant and easy,
read,
others note a
lack of depth
and personal insight
into his motivations.
Right.
I guess his career
had no depth.
Yeah.
So.
Apparently,
a key aspect
to the book,
he was a decent
and genuine man
with limited
personal reflection.
Right.
So,
Eaton,
he talks about
fagging.
Yes.
Which we touched on
the last episode,
but I feel like
given the sparsity
of other things
to talk about,
we should deal with fagging.
So fagging is a thing
at your school?
It was not.
Was it a thing
at your school?
I don't think,
I mean, I didn't board, so I don't, I think it was, it was maybe a boarding thing.
Fag.
Thank you, Charlie.
That's when the homophobic robots take over.
If you're listening, we've got, we've got a homophobic Stephen Hawking in the corner.
Detective Hawking, How to Catch a Homo.
Stephen Hawking meeting Elton John.
Get a photo of that up.
Yeah.
Get a photo of Stephen Hawking meeting out on John.
Can you just play the, play the sound again?
Fack.
Yeah, that's what.
that's Hawking meeting
that's Hawking in June
in central London.
Yeah.
So basically in very old school
elite boarding schools
there's not even all private schools
this is like top end
really traditional
boarding schools
to kind of make it
as traumatic and gruelling as possible
which is what elite boarding schools
are about.
Yes.
It's about getting
really wealthy privileged people
to have also have really miserable lives as well
but just by their own volition.
So fagging is when you make
a younger
people act as your sort of personal
slave? Yes. Fag comes from
apparently comes from weary.
Which is interesting. It is interesting. Because they're
not weary. The right to
fagg carries with it certain
well-defined duties. The fagmaster.
When did the right to fag come in?
I view myself as a bit of a fagmaster. That's
under Wilson, I think. The right to fag.
Right to fag act.
I think that's like to
repeal it. Yeah, the right to fag.
Would you say you fag me?
I feel like I'm maybe. You're the fag of this
podcast. I think you're the fag of this podcast.
The fagmaster.
is the protector of his fags and responsible
for their happiness and good contact.
So what is it just like your mother hen?
I'd see myself as a fagmaster.
Fags had to black boots.
Polish boots.
Polish boots. Brush clothes, clean rooms, cook breakfast.
Also, so I read this in Roald Dars' autobiography.
He went to a very fancy school as well.
Yeah.
He was a fag.
Yeah.
And, um, but that's unrelated.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Enough about his sex one.
He, one of the main things that fangs would do during the winter.
is they had to go sit on the toilets in the morning
to warm them up.
So that, because obviously it's freezing cold.
Oh, I'd love a fag at home to warm my toilet seat.
Because the problem at the moment is that my wife does that,
but then I have to sit in her funk.
I have to sit in her wife funk, which I don't want to.
So you'd like a fag who's not shitting in the loot.
Yes.
Don't speak up on my wife at those toes.
She emits a funk.
But she does warm the toilet seat.
Yeah.
I'd say the perfect temperature
because I think too hot
makes my poo tree
does she
is it a service
no it's just her metabolism
is faster than mine
right okay
I'm just wondering if she does
have the toilets
oh I'm sure I'm sure I could
I mean you could pimper out
yeah I can rent a wife
and it's not it's not pimping
because it's purely
warming toilet seats
which if you've just had a child
it's also probably the most action
you're getting
what warm toilet is the feeling
of the warmth from your
wife's buttock after she's had a poo.
That's the most...
That's what you need.
In the six months,
I got first child,
that was all I got, really.
That had to sustain me
three months of a newborn life.
Just that buzz, you know.
Yeah, that's all you need.
That's all you need.
No, I'd be well up for having.
I think that's a very good service, actually.
He just mentions it.
So, he graduates with a third from Oxford.
Fucking hell.
So he's not remarkable really at all.
Jobs for the boys.
It is totally jobs for the boys.
He plays county cricket, a Middlesex County Cricket Club, which the MCC.
He plays international matches against Argentina on an MCC tour in 26, 27.
He then takes a two-year sabbatical, of course, at his family's estates.
So blah, blah, blah.
As he's, now this is the last type of this sort of politics, which you get a bit with Reese Mogg, actually, I say.
It's coming back a bit.
Right.
But there's a type of person who thinks, well, it's my duty as a proper bloke as a gentleman to enter
politics.
Yeah.
It's the ultimate patrician, isn't it?
Right.
And this is where this ends.
This is why he's significant actually.
McMillan, you know, if it wasn't for this, you'd say it was McMillan, but this is the last
patrician.
All the stuff we said about McMillan, this is actually...
This is actually the last one.
Yeah.
So 31, he's elected as a unionist MP.
He married his headmaster's daughter.
See, all of these, like, people who end up in power, they're always marrying the
bosses.
Yeah, they are.
Boss's kid.
It seems to be a way to climb up the greasyy pole.
And then the middle is watching them fuck.
Yeah.
Oh, my word.
Okay, so his wife's not a looker.
Hang on, hang on, go up.
The lady home of the Herschel.
My God.
So she's the first lady at one point.
Yeah, proper Scottish fair that.
Now, yes, that is a Scottish fair.
Should we, should we, is it tasteless to rank Prime Minister's wives?
Yeah, I think it is tasteless.
Is it?
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Right.
Can you get Churchill's wife up?
Get Atley's wife up.
Get McMillan's, I mean, is we're going to have three.
Should we discount McMillan because he never.
It wasn't really his wife.
He was a really his wife.
A bit of a beauty contest.
This is Churchill's wife.
Okay, not bad.
Right.
Clementine.
This is Violet.
Okay, I like Violet.
Yeah.
She looks like, she's got a very kind face.
I like Clementine.
Yeah, she looks like Churchill.
Eden had two wives, so let's get them both up.
So this is Clarissa.
She's a bit older there.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, but you can see she was a real smoke show in the early.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eden's going to be.
Who's Beatrice Beckett?
No, her eyes are too far apart.
he made the right decision in divorcing her
I'll tell you that now
I think Clementine's beautiful
Churchill's wife
Eden's first wife no
Eden's second
In second
Eden's first wife
We will do a series on the wives
of prime ministers
We will rank them
That's Lisa Anne Charlie
That's Gordon Brown's wife
That's Jane Brown
That's why his eyes are like that
That's
Too much
Yeah too much motorboating
The tits is so big that he needs his eyes to be able to...
What are we calling her puppies?
Those are puppies.
They're fucking Rottweiler.
Caesar Anz got.
My Gordon Brown's eyes are like that.
Okay.
Christ.
Anyway, Neville Chamberl makes Douglas Hume
his parliamentary private secretary, his fagg, if you will.
Right.
And so he goes to the Munich Agreement.
He's at the Munich Conference.
Oh, he's there.
He's there.
He recounted that he saw Hitler walking with his arms hung low to his knees
and he swung in unison, giving him a curiously animal appearance.
Loads like a sort of monkey.
Hitler monkey.
Aye!
Aye!
Nazi monkey.
Nazi monkey.
And blood!
Nazi monkey.
Lovely stuff.
He also said that Mussolini kept walking around with his chin up to conceal an unsightly carbuncle on the top of his head.
What's a carbuncle?
It's like a big wart is it?
Let's go a bit clod.
It's a cluster of bull.
oils. Let's have a look.
Right.
Oh, is that why bussy things like this?
Yeah.
It's because he's got a massive spot on his head.
Oh, God, that's disgusting.
So, war record, none.
Because, and this, I have to say, is the funniest thing about him.
Yeah. So in 1940, he signs up to go and fight in World War II.
Yeah.
But his doctor tells him, firstly, to wait three months to settle his nerves.
Because, I mean, he's the right type of bloke that they go, are you sure you want to do this?
Yeah.
Then he comes back. He has a medical check.
It discovers he's got TB in his spine.
So, if he had not been caught, then he could have been paralyzed.
Are we sure that's true?
Well, if it's not, then what happens next is insane.
Okay.
So he has a six-hour operation to remove a bit of his spine,
and they replace it with a bit of his shin.
Is that?
For the next two years, he is...
Do you do that?
How that when you get pubs for your hair transplant or something, or whatever it is?
Is that what they do?
In Turkey?
I don't know.
Take your pubs and put them on your...
head. I don't think they do that. I don't think they do that.
You come back and you just got a stinky. You've got a
bush on you. You've got like a 70s deep throat bush
on your head. You've been turkey? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it did feel
weird that they were doing that. Yeah, my head fucking stinks now. But
my balls never smell better. I got
head hair down there. I got dick hair up there.
Perfect. What would it look like? Because what you want
is long, luscious, shampoo and conditioned hair for your pubs.
So like Iggy Pop, kind of like long blonde hair.
You want the dick to be behind a curtain.
And then you want a sort of a pub fro.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
That's someone who glued pubs to their skin.
Someone did it.
Oh, they deleted it.
So on Reddit, the thread is, I gave up slash I glued pubes to my head.
It wouldn't look good.
It's more like, it's just eyebrows, really, as opposed to hair.
You've just got big eyebrows as opposed to more hair.
Right.
you know um anyway what happens is they take a bit of his shin put it in his spine to recover
he is entirely encased in plaster for two years we're just during the war yeah yeah lying on his
back for two years like this so mcmillan was playing dead at the song yeah and douglas like you
was just going it's literally in plaster lying his back like this waiting for his spine deal on the
front was it a shell
was it a fucking trapnel
no no it's just a surgery gone wrong
I don't even left my house didn't even go wrong
it's just that's they took a bit of a spine out and they
to wait for it to fuse whatever two years
so he he is lying in plaster like a mummy
for two years yeah and apparently he gains
four stone going from 11 stone to 15 stone
then he has to lose the weight when he loves to walk again
he genuinely just read
communist books while he and then
became virulally anti-communist
That's quite funny reading it and going,
I want a load of bollocks.
Yeah, just as why you're there.
Oh, what a load of shit.
I don't need anyone.
I'm self-sufficient.
Sorry, can someone help me piss?
Does someone bring me some food?
Pull yourselves up by your bootstruck.
Could you wipe my ass please?
Yeah, I can't wipe my ass for.
I've just done a big poo in the plaster.
How's he pooing?
People need to learn to stand on their own two feet.
Yeah.
I can't walk.
Yeah.
It's like a free market hawking.
Yeah.
Who's just sort of in the,
just lying there.
free market hawking
free market hawkine
without the clever stuff
yeah it's hawkins
without the brain
it's just a virulately
anti-communist hawkings
so back to politics
in 43 he returns to parliament
following his two years
of being in plaster
so he's out of the paper mashay now
yeah yeah he's been encased
in paper mashay
I mean the smell of his balls
when they cut that off
oh
because you know when you cut like
your arms in plaster
you cut it off
the stink is like evil
It's like an evil watchstrap smell
Yeah
But imagine that but it's your
Like there's an ancient evil to it
Yeah
It's like a darkness you cannot comprehend
And your curse comes out
Yeah
So he loses his seat
In 45
Which is quite funny given he's just
He's just been able to sit up
Loses that
So he gets out of a seat
For the first time in five years
Yeah
And then they go right
You've lost your seat
So 1950 he wins a seat back
After distributing a letter
From the rival MP
The letter
Oh the letter is
So he snitched
he's a snitcher because his rival
for the seat was a communist
blah blah blah
in 1951 his father dies
so he becomes
so he then steps down
the commons to take up his hereditary period
so he gets a promotion
gets promotion
he's done nothing and he's got promotion
all he's done
is lie down for two years during the war
basically every
every other prime minister at this point has done
something to contribute towards the war effort
he's lying down for two years
yeah well someone's got to
I lay down my life.
I lay down.
I lay down for a bit.
And then I got up again.
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unelected.
Does he have anything that he did which was good, like even politically?
Let alone the war.
Did he have some success as a minister?
Or is he just from good stock?
He goes back, he becomes Heath's Foreign Secretary.
And I think he does something then.
Fine.
But even that, I'm not sure of it.
So basically the entirety of his year-long premiership is dominated by the fact there's an election coming up.
Right.
He left ministers to get on with the job because he didn't know what the fuck was going on.
Don't assume didn't have any landmark policies.
So like the independence of Malawi, Zambia, Zanzibar, Malta.
But we're all developed under McMillan.
Yeah.
So he literally did absolutely nothing.
He may as well have been in plaster.
Yeah.
his entire premiership
his entire premiership
just lying there like that
come on stop being
pick yourself out by your bootstraps
he accepts the reports
findings on higher education
he accepts them
yep so someone brings it
I accept that
brilliant
he's set in train
a massive expansion
in higher education
okay
and then really
the big thing
is that JFK has assassinated
a month into his tenure
he had a good relation
with JFK during his
time as foreign secretary, but didn't continue
with the successor. Oh, Lyndon B. Johnson.
All right. Because the special relationship
sours a bit under B. Johnson.
Does it? Yeah, like they
he like...
Enormous hog he had.
Yeah, a massive hog.
You've seen those pictures of him leaning over people as well.
I mean, he used his height to devastate.
When we do the equivalent series for the
US, American presidents,
Lyndon B. Johnson's arguably the greatest
president, I think. Yeah, I love Lindenby Johnson.
He's amazing. He's fascinating. Real bully.
A bully, massive hog.
thing he'd just intimidate people where he'd stand right up close but it's like there's something to it
if you are the most powerful man in the world yeah fucking throw it around a little bit and also
he'd he'd have meetings where he'd just go for a shit halfway through leave the door open and just
carry on talking like secretaries while he's pooing he's like a power pooher and he would
always talk about how uncomfortable his suit was because his hog's so big bbby once got
bollocked by a director and then halfway through the bollicking he went for a shit and
It took ages.
Was he still bollicking it while he was having poo?
No, no.
But it was like 25 minutes.
Wow.
And he came back.
It stank.
They were all in the room.
And then he kind of forgot,
anyway,
you guys can go.
Yeah.
So I think he was like,
I'm just going to go to the loo.
I'll be right back.
I'm angry with you guys.
And then just,
just,
just,
ah!
He got so.
He got so.
He got so angry he pooed?
Yeah, I guess so.
Wow.
25 minutes,
just, they're just sat there.
Two women.
But do you think,
I think the average time of a shit,
has gone up since
since smartphones.
Yeah.
Because I think now people,
I notice this myself a lot.
I'm having a poo and then I'm on my phone
and then I finish the poo ages ago
but I'm just on the phone.
Yeah.
In the 90s you're having a poo
you're getting on with it.
You're back out there.
Yeah, you have like red marks
and your legs from where you've been, yeah.
I've got poo grooves.
I'm watching entire TV series
on the toilet.
Yeah.
Entirety of the West Wing.
Yeah, I watch that entirety of Seinfeld.
I'm not doing that, Charlie.
All right.
So he didn't get on with Lindenby, John.
and it was becoming clear
that the special relationship
was more special for Britain.
Do you have any special relationships?
Well, yeah, you?
Special relationship.
Your special needs and we have a relationship.
But you know, you have a relationship
with an old woman.
Yeah, Teresa.
Yeah.
But you have a real fascination with old women.
I get on with them.
Like, yeah, I find that they're
spent a lot of time with them.
They're more straightforward
and kinder than most people.
Yeah.
It's odd.
But yeah, that's a special relationship.
It's very special, yeah.
Yeah, Theresa Rahman.
Shout out.
Yeah, Theresa Raman.
When was the last time you saw her, Teresa?
Last week, I took her over a snow globe from Spain.
How's Raman doing?
She's all right, she's smoking a lot, but it's kind of her last.
But you both smoked together, don't you?
Yeah, there's nothing like that.
Having a cigarette with an old lady in a windowless room is the best feeling in the world.
Is it?
Yeah.
She smokes straights or roll-ups?
She feels like you're alive, but dying as well.
She smokes roll-ups?
She smokes roll-ups, yeah.
How's her rolling technique?
Pretty awful, but like...
She's fascinating.
When someone's like been smoking roll-ups to their whole life.
from their technique is still bad.
Yeah, I think she had a stroke
so her technique is kind of waning.
All right, don't make it.
Keep it like Charlie.
Come on.
But yeah, I see her once a week.
We won't flog it and have a tea together.
And nail straights.
Guys, we've got the most interesting man in Britain.
Sorry, I can't believe we have veered off course
when we're dealing with Alec Douglas Hume.
So, let's talk about him on television
because obviously the television age has come in.
It's been Black Friday for seven years.
Everyone's got a big telly.
Yeah.
Get out my way.
I want a fucking Nutri Bullet.
Theresa Rahman's been fucking drop-kick down the stairs so someone can get a theory.
Teresa Rahman's probably watched Alex Dogger's team on television.
Yeah, probably has.
Probably.
So he's so bad on TV because...
Can we get any footage up?
Well, it's quite funny is that I don't think he understands what it is.
No.
Because he's Edwardian.
Let's just have a little taste.
His first performances on television seem to confirm the fears around him
because his first TV broadcast quote conveys a sincerity but
fails to excite.
He appeared wooden and nothing would make him telegenic.
Apparently, his nervous tendency was to shoot his tongue out like a lizard and lick his lips.
Because he had very dry lips.
Right.
Because being on TV was so...
So was he the first TV...
Prime Minister then?
First Prime Minister you have to deal with TV.
My Millen did TV.
My Millen did addresses.
I watched one this morning.
Right.
It was not...
Yeah.
Oh, you know.
You watch him?
Yeah.
This is him when he's in the cabinet.
Fever is already at high point.
Are you beginning to miss the scent of battle?
Well, I shall be in it, I think,
or not on my own account,
because everybody writes to me now and says,
now you've got nothing to do.
Will you come and speak for me?
So I shall be occupied during the election campaign
in the marginal seats in Scotland
and some in England too.
He's got that real old.
He's got genuinely,
he's got genuinely,
No lips.
He's so bad that he had them here.
You know, this sort of accent is sort of gone,
but it really is quite extraordinary how these people speak.
He never, yeah, I mean, he apparently.
Well, that was the 74.
That wasn't during his publishing.
So he, apparently, he was getting done up by makeup artists.
and he quote had this awful
he had the cadaverous image of a skull
i.e. just looks like a fucking dead person
and before a BBC interview
he asked a makeup assistant if she could make him look better
he was told there's nothing to be done
he had a head like a skull
hasn't everyone he asked
no they replied
so basically he looks fucked
he's got nothing going on
he spent his formative years in plaster
lying down yeah
in interviews he seemed poorly briefed
and in 1964 you insisted that the British
economy had seldom been stronger, only to be contradicted to the following day by the publication
of the worst ever trade.
He made four major speeches to the House of Commons.
Wow.
He made no pretense to economic expertise.
That's hilarious.
He commented that his problems...
I don't claim to be an expert.
Yeah, you're prime minister, mate.
Listen, the smarter people than me out there, they'll know what to do.
I've got no idea.
I can't stress how I spent most of my life encased in plastic.
It's almost like this is a social experiment.
I'm not really into politics.
You're literally the Prime Minister.
He said,
when I have to read economic documents,
I have to have a box of matches
and start moving them into position
to simplify and illustrate the points to myself.
When he speaks to his Chancellor,
he's one of the people
who counsel his fingers like this.
One, two.
How much do we have?
One trillion, two trillion.
Let's get to this.
The only thing that really actually happens.
Is this during his time in office?
Yeah, he's Prime Minister.
So, April 64,
at a Scottish Unionist Conference.
Christ, that must be fun.
don't threaten me with a good time.
A group of left-wing students
ask him to sign a
forfeit to charity
in return for not kidnapping him.
He signs and gives them
one pound as a joke because he's
fucking hilarious. The students
follow him home, knock on his
door and say they're going to kidnap him.
He asked if he could pack a bag.
He's got composure. While he's
packing a bag, he offers them a beer,
allows them to take pictures in the house.
He chats with them and then he said if they kidnapped him,
the Tories would win the upcoming election by two to 300 seats.
And so after drinking with him for a while,
the students gave up the kidnap plot and left.
Douglas Holm didn't report it
because he didn't want his security guard to lose his job.
Right.
Yeah, it's simpler time, I guess.
I mean, it's...
How serious were these students about kidnapping?
I guess it's...
I mean, it's the beginning of the kind of student left-wing 60s.
It's probably the most boring kidnapping story
has ever been.
And he didn't even make a big deal of it.
No.
Had to drink with him.
But he becomes president of the MCC.
Right.
66.
Because his real love
and seemingly
the only thing
he has any passion for
is cricket.
Yeah.
Apparently he made
very classist decisions.
You surprised me.
He supported
the controversial rebel tours
which we did a Patreon episode on.
To apartheids Africa.
At the height of apartheid
where everyone's like
well obviously boycotting this
as a private enterprise
a lot of English players
went out to play
tours in Africa
and he was behind it.
So let's get to his
legacy let's sum him up let's we don't need to be a long one on this he might be the most
boring man we've ever covered we've listen your prayers have been answered and we did joan of arc
we did do joan of arc but we've done douglas hume yeah uh blah blah blah yeah blah yeah
yeah given that i didn't know about him yeah until four days before we started doing
this yeah until 40 45 minutes ago yeah and i also sort of still don't know about him yeah um
i think he's got to be the worst promise that we've ever had because at least trust
had looks
Eden had looked
looks obviously
yeah
yeah he could be
at the bottom
at the moment
fully fully the bottom
but I mean
you could argue
because he didn't
fuck anything up
he could
he could just
kind of like
be above
some of the ones
who clustered fucked it
do you know what I mean
or do you need to have
more about you
I just think
at least trust
was memorable
yeah
you know
yeah definitely the most
boring
um
so his pros
is distinguished
foreign secretary
respect for his
adeptness
in foreign affairs
notably he negotiated the partial nuclear test ban treaty
and displayed strongly shipped during the Cuban missile crisis.
Boring.
Cons, unelected PM, detached aristocratic image.
He is the end point of...
All right, you're taking the piss now, sounding this guy, basically.
It's like, it's the absolute...
It's a very last of the steam locomotives, supposedly.
He is the most boring, most establishment it ever gets.
and after this, the British people draw a line
under-electing these kinds of people.
They don't want patricians, they don't want old boys,
they want an exciting northern, woke, lefty, libtard.
Nasal.
Nasal.
Yeah.
Who smokes a pipe.
Yeah.
And that's what they're going to get.
Next time, we get into, definitely the most interesting.
Probably we've done.
Probably this next administration is arguably the biggest
in terms of social change.
For sure.
it is like you know
this is the real 60s
sacred cows are slaughtered
on the altar of progress
abortion gay rights
theatre censorship
a lot of great experiments
have started
and have they worked
we still don't know
yeah too early to tell
Harold Wilson is our next episode
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We've done it, we've done it now
We've done it
So you can stop asking us
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We've done it now
Are you happy?
Well, I'm not happy
No, I'm not happy
That was fucking boring
might as well have done a fucking episode on my neighbour
what's your neighbour called
well yeah so join us next week
we'll be doing scaffolders
who ingeniously hides tins of beer
in his in his bins
oh so that he can hide him for his wife
that's already more interesting than Dave
we might have to bleep his name
yeah go see I think he's an alcoholic
that's bleep his name in the edit
well that's a lot more to him than
Alec Doug's got a lot going on.
He's got a lot going on.
Anyway, the British Prime Minister
Post-war series rattles on
and it's gathering pace.
Don't worry, as we said,
a test cricket match is only exciting
after it's been boring for a bit.
So next time, it's Wilson
and then finally,
we get to the 70s.
Don't yawn.
We get to the 70s.
The 70s is the funniest
politics has ever been.
Join us next time.
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