Fin vs History - Tough on Blackface, Tough on the Causes of Blackface | Dick Turpin & Highwaymen (Part 1)

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

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Welcome once more to Finn versus History. I'm joined by Horatio Gould. Stand and a whither. Today, it was a little Asian. It was a guy with a sort of wisp. I've got to like a lisp. Oh, stand on to whither. Put your hands up, please.

Yes, because this is a sort of dandish topic. This is Dick Turp and highwayman. I'm going to kill you and assault your wife. Keep it light. Early doors. This is history for

fans of Noel Fielding. Oh! No jokes. Just a vibe. Anyway, it's yeah, highwaymen. Yes. This is the topic.

It's dandies. It's whimsical history. Fruity rapists. Fruitie rapists, I suppose. I didn't know much about this. And I still don't think I like the people who like this Although it is funny

I don't know if there's enough I don't know if enough people are into it to say that it's like a niche There's definitely an aesthetic that is a niche It's an aesthetic fine People who say rather than saying Do you want to go for a pint and they go A flagon of ale maybe and you go Fuck off

Those people Do you know who I mean Do you know anyone like that? No Come on A flagging of ale You hang out with people like that I don't hang out when they always says flagging

You dress like people like that Yeah but I've never heard the word Maybe it's a mead today You're going to fuck off. What are you? We live in 2025. Hey? Mead sucks.

Yeah, it does. It really sucks. And also, I reckon people who like this topic really smell. Yeah. Is it a sort of person who says like, my lord? Yes, my lord. Yes, my liege. Fuck off.

I hate, I hate those people. It's sort of on the road to steampunk. Exactly. It's Jack the Ripper. It's Titanic. It's on the way to it. Yeah, there's something. Dick Turpin, the dandish Georgian highway.

Because I guess like the sort of, I don't know, Star Wars autist, there's like an. honesty there, you know, the comic book guy. There's a purity, you know what I mean? It's space. It's like, you know, figurines going into each other. It's not, he's not presenting himself as anything but a big fat nerd. You know what I mean? But this sort of like, I'm sort of a gentleman, ooh, you know. Foppish. Yeah, foppish wearing waistcoats and stuff like that. It's like, you don't know what you are. Is it gay autism? Is that what's confusing? Gautism. Gautism. Gautism. Well, as I think we discussed this on a scale of autism, I think if you're white

straight, it's the easiest to pick up autism. Yes. And the further you get away from white straight, the harder it is. To spot. Yeah. So black autism, very hard to spot. What is black? What does that look like?

Blotism. It's big. No, autism is big. And to be honest, there's a lot of people. I think if you're white, you assume every social interaction that you fucked it up with a black person, right? Yes.

You're like, I'm Ned Flanders. I'm a loser. I don't actually. I'm very confident every time. I reckon I can say this. But I'm not autistic. But when you keep, when I met some of these guys a couple of times, then you're like, oh, no, he has autism. Yeah.

But you don't get white person out the gate. Yeah, obviously. Women, it's more disguised. So black female autists are very hard. Invisible. It takes a formidable, yeah. Hidden figures. Yeah, U-boats. Black room with autism are the U-boats.

I was going to say, I tell you what black autism is. Why are you gay? That's black autism. Yeah. Because that's a mad thing to ask someone. Yeah, I guess so. That's an autistic question. No, but I think the black autistic culture is on the rise

Is it? It's coming through, the love of anime, that's a very, that's been intertwined with black culture. Yeah. There's like a real, like, they're kind of like, they get a lot of passes, but they're, they're getting really into nerd culture, I think. I think it's rising up. Tiger Woods, do you reckon he's autistic?

I think he's, I think he's mixed race. Yeah, I'm not saying, it's not one or the other. He's not one or the other. No, he's not, he's not, he's not constantly wearing black tie. he is black Thai. Yeah, yeah. Or black Japanese? Blapanese.

Yeah, Blapanese. Blaponnese. That's a lovely word to say. Blaponnese. Ticato. Dick Turpin and Highwayman. Now, there's something peculiarly English about this fascination of, you know, why is it that the English loved armed robbery when it's done politely?

Yes. There's a peculiarly English fascination with it. There's something about a level of dissent, but done within the rules of a gentleman's kind of code of conduct. The idea that you, are breaking the rules, but doing it in a kind of in the fashion of someone who sticks to the rules. It's a very English phenomenon. Sorry, Charlie's such in Dick Turnip, which really changes the vibe. It was Dick Turnip. That's what I've got going on down there. I've

got a Dick Turnip. It's the same letters, but in a slightly in order, completely changes. Dick Turner. Maybe that was his name. Dick Turnip. Dick. Dick, no. Turnip Dick. That doesn't really work at all. That's like, is that what they say Hitler had? Yeah, well, that's just come I've just come out. We just come out. And obviously I've been assaulted in the last 36 hours with this reel from the times about how Hitler had a micro penis. They've sequenced his DNA. I'll be getting sent at the whole time. And apparently they've taken a bit of occupational hazard, I guess. So far. Yeah, it comes to the territory. And I don't hate it. No. But I almost, I almost feel like I need to set up a separate email address for all Hitler

correspondence. To go through it. This is so much. What would you call the email address? It would be like, Hitler FAQs at Fubble Ruski.com Hitler News Hitler info dot DE obviously anyway

or dot nz no that's New Zealand anyway So the news is that they've got an Allied soldier in the 40s found a bit of sofa from the bunker with his blood on it

and they've finally sequenced Hitler's DNA and they think they might have had this thing called Calvin syndrome which means puberty is stunted and he might have not Actually, only only only had one ball.

People have talked about that for a while. Yeah. And a micropinus. Yeah. But I really find it funny how they presented the information as if that explains everything. Right. Oh, okay. We all know guys with small cocks are overcompensating.

He just did it in a very weird way. I mean, overcompensating is one thing. I mean, is that over over over, that's... Over, over compensating. I mean, that's really overcompensating. It's like, as if the Jews are in charge of penis size. Yeah. As if it's like, well, you've proved it then fine.

Sorry, you don't have a small dick now. And he's, well, he hates Jews because they're circumcising and they're taking length off and he finds that arrogant because he's got a small, I mean, I don't understand what the possible. Because the entitlement, I think you can lock a bit off. Yeah, I think you could lose a length. Who are these arrogant Jews? You know, it's crazy.

Anyway, that we're not talking about hitless micropenus. We're talking about, you need to deal with that. We're not talking about turnip dick either. Although we don't know whether Dick Turbin had a micro penis. No. He probably didn't. Or a turnip. Or a turnip for a.

Dick. I don't know. Anyway, where are we in the world? We are in England, thank God, in the 18th century. This is the time that Dick Turnit, Ternet, fucking hell of Dick Ternet. Let's just call him Dick Ternip. Let's not always call him Dick Ternip. His name, but I do think that Dick Turpin, if he, if he was, if he was, sorry? Go on. No, he's already been ashamed. Say that again. You were instantly ashamed. What did you just say? Kimchie pussy. Do you think that's a Japanese highwayman, is it? I don't know. Fermented cabbage pussy.

Yeah. Permanented cabbage pussy. That's Korean highwayman. Right. So a Korean carjacking. Oh, bloody hell. Kimchi pussy's on the loser again. I mean, if it was a really terrifying guy, that would be a really scary name.

Kimchi pussy. I don't think it would actually. I don't think I'd be that scared. Oh, my God. It's kimchi pussy. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Hide.

Kimchi pussy's here. It's kimchi. I do think. I do think of Dick Turpin, what the name's pussy, kimchi pussy. I do think if he was known as, if he was known in history as Richard Turpin, we would not be talking about him now.

Because Richard Turpin works in HR or like fucking data management. My name's Richard Turpin. Yeah. Yeah. My name's Richard Turpin. I'm working data management. But Dickie Terps.

Dick Turpin. Again, it's cheeky. Yeah. Not cock turpin. That's vulgar. You know, throbbing Dick Turpin. But once again, this goes in the lineage of the romantic of rapists of the past.

It does. Yeah, we talked about it in the piracy series, yeah. Dress up for kids' birthdays. Dick Turpin definitely would be in the roster,

right? Highwayman. Of course. Goes pirate, Vikings, you name it. This is a similar age to the golden age of piracy.

But I guess maybe the counterpoint to that point is maybe all men were raping all the time. So it's sort of like anyone from the past. Yeah, exactly. Put a flag anywhere.

Men will be raping. Yeah, guess you're assuming that we've kind of progressed past right yeah yeah yeah i don't believe we have i don't want to speak for all women but i i imagine there's still a bit of fruitiness going on yeah um what was he charged for fruitiness my word anyway christ we are in england in the 18th century uh in the 1730 so to place this for our thick fat listeners this is after martin luther and it's before Martin Luther Burger King, which is what I call body positive activists.

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So, now the highwayman, the idea of a kind of noble robber has been central to English folklore for a while. Obviously, Robin Hood is about... Now, Robin Hood is fictional. Yeah, right. But by the sort of late 16th century, Robin Hood is a familiar folk hero.

The idea of stealing from the rich to give to the poor, you know, Kirstama. That's London to stand. That's already a concept in the English psyche. But the golden age of the high woman kicks off because the English civil war creates these conditions. It's a part of British history that I don't feel is that talked about. It's a bit of a transition period.

Well, yeah, because you have the Georgian period. You have the Tudors and all that students. Commonwealth and then the Civil War and then Industrial Revolution, Victorian, yeah. Romanticism. This period doesn't real. 1650, 1750 is quite. You can't really place it. There's not really many things to jump on it. Yeah. Because it was a bit of a confusing period. We got William of Orange, you got the restoration, and then you have the Golden Age of Satire. I can't use for you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But in sort of 1651, there are, this is when Cromwell sort of decisively. So he's chopped off Charles I, the first's head. at this point. Right. And in 1651,

there are now thousands of disenfranchised royalist cavalrymen unemployed, armed to the teeth and very useful with horses and pistols. So it's like the London Dungeons

closed down. And suddenly there are a bunch that's who these people are. People who work at the fucking London Dungeons. I hate them. They think they're so clever because they jump out of you.

Boo! Fuck off. I'd love to go through London Dungeons with a cricket bat and just smack them all for all. I love to see you get arrested. It's like Nets. comedian Finn Taylor

plays whackamole with the poor working actors at the London Dungeon Boo! Bang! Cover drive, next. Just walking through just shadow batting fucking unemployed actors

pretending, thinking they're so big and clever because they've got a top hat on and they're scary. Anyway, what's this, Charlie? London Dungeons apologize for upsetting tweets. What have they?

Jack the Ripper just messaged he wants to Netflix and kill. Right. So when was this? 2017. I live in Jack the Ripper land, right? So I've got Jack the Ripper tours outside my front door all the time.

There is a barbershot called Jack the Clipper. Yes, that's pretty good. It is good, but it's also, Jack the Ripper was what did rape a lot. He raped his victims. So it does seem kind of funny to call it. He also may have been a barber as we discussed in the series. Yeah, so it works,

but it is kind of funny the way that it's like, he may have been the worst. You can do a pun. Yeah. If he was a hairdresser, he was the worst hairdresser of all time. Like, he could call, it's calling a barbershop hairy Weinstein. Yeah.

Yeah. Asama bin taken, if you could do like... Osama bin taken? Taken. What's what it's taken? What's what? What do you tell you're a barber? Like a bin man.

A sum of a bin taken. A sum of a bin takers? A sum of a bin man. Yeah. Osama bin men. Yeah. Well, you run a private refuse collection company called Osama bin. Yeah.

I mean, I... That's not bad. That's pretty good. It's good. So the English Civil War creates these conditions. And so the great age of highway robbery, it peaks from sort of the 1615... It's quite a lawless period. period. Yes, it is.

The kind of the idea of a strong state has been, everything's up for grabs. No one really knows what's going on. No. There's a lot of changes in the air. And there's no law enforcement, really. And there's lots of roads. People are travelling more than ever because transport's getting easier.

People are leaving the countryside to go to the cities more than ever. But there's no lights on the roads. There's no street. This is pre-street lamp, which is crucial. Isolated villages. It was so dangerous that travellers wrote wills, before journeys. Right.

So if you went from London to Oxford, you'd write your will. That's how stressed it was. These big coaching routes. Now, what is, Charlie, can you find out

how many people are in a coach in this day and age? Because this is just, in my head, it's like four. Well, I'm imagining like a megabus. Well, I don't know what a...

87. No, that's a, that's a, you've just, you've Googled megabus capacity. I want to know in the 1650s how many people could fit in a coach.

You would just added 100 years to what Finn asked. Four horses. Yeah, but designs carry six passengers, thank you. So that's a, that's a low, bad economy almost. That's a minivan, isn't it? Four horses for six people. That's an UberXL, basically.

Yeah. And so. Imagine an Uber pool back then. So he just had to kind of swing by, pick up random people. God they'd be even, why is it? Have you got a will? I got a wheel. Yeah, why did you point at me like that?

You're not, you're not in it. Right. Did he genuinely think you were? I don't know. Have you written a will? Yes, I've got kids. We've been trying to get my dad to write a will. He's not written a will?

No, that's hilarious. So he doesn't generally. He won't do it. He's too scared of death. Well, do you think, well, do you work nonsense? I think part of me, I think it's just like, if he does it, he'll die. Do you know what I mean?

Okay, yeah. I think he's, otherwise he'll will it into existence. I see, right. I think he might have just written a will, but there's taken the... I didn't know, that's smart to do it immediately. Well, it's not smart. Is it if you just die, then the government just take everything?

Did they? Yeah, basically. Is that how it works? Yeah. So I'm not right a will then. I'm not, it feels weird writing a will now. Can you just put it in a Google dot? But it's funny to...

Can I just write my final will and testament? You have to leave everything to B, B. Yeah. She wouldn't know what to do with it. Well, I don't have to. No. It's my fucking... I can do what I want with it, right?

It's my word. Don't leave it to him. He wouldn't know what to do with it either. I'm not here anymore. I just cause chaos. Yeah. Give me something. Yeah.

Give it to... Give it to the free Weinstein jail fund. Fuck it. Is that a legitimate fund? Is that a legitimate fund? Is it? Oh, we're going to set up. All right.

You're going to use all my earthly possessions. Yeah. sell them and set up the Harvey Weinstein free, free fund. Fuck it. I'm not here anymore. Yeah, yeah. You deal with it. I don't care about legacy.

So, Hyde Park becomes notorious for high women. So this is a period where London is so much smaller, right, that all of these areas that we're used to are the suburbs. Well, they're not even that. They're like villages. So like Finchley and Hampstead are... Hampstead Heath, I think. Hampton was knocking about.

Walthamstow Forest, Epping Forest, all of these. These aren't areas of London. These are nearby villages. Topham's a village that you, you know. It still is, in my opinion. In 1690, William III orders high park to be lit by 300 oil lamps. This is one of the first lit highways in Britain. Lit highway, brother.

Yeah. Because the danger's so bad. So what is a stagecoach? It's a four-wheeled public carriage and it provided scheduled passenger transport traveling in stages. That's why it's called a stagecoach. So it's the fastest mode of transport at the time, but it became a huge target for gangs and thieves. And one thing we must say about Dick Turpin

is that a lot of highwayman law gets attributed to him, but we need to separate the fact from the fiction. But it's quite a hard thing to do. Do we know much about him? Yeah, we know we do. Okay. Well, what's quite funny is this sort of, you know, the dandyish, a flagon of mead, that nonce, right?

What he likes about Dick Turpin is not Dick Turpin at all. The actual Richard Turnip was a brutal murderer. Yeah, of course. But he's been romanticised to such an extent. Yeah, he's a fucking crook. He's Gavin Plum. Yeah, he is.

Nonsors who wear neckerchiefs kind of go to fancy dress parties at him. So the gallant highwayman sort of starts, we think, with a guy called Claude DeVal. Right. Who's a French cunt. Sounds like a chef. Yeah, he does.

But that's just French. I mean, any French name sounds like a chef. No. Go on. Jacques. Bad start. In the box. Jacques in the box

Jacques in Zibokes Jacques in Zabogs That sounds like a toy Jacques In Zibos So hang on So you go to a restaurant They say the chef Is Monsieur Jacques in Zabox

Oh that sounds nothing like a chef Yeah I'd like leave What do you mean There's a cheap Christmas toy Cook in my steak Jack in Ziburgs Jack in Zibokes

Right So Claude de Vow Is a French-born servant To Royalists Who turns into a rubber And he's known because he's sort of has this courteous style and he refuses to harm his victims. Right.

The most famous episode, supposedly, he holds up a coach with a nobleman and the nobleman's lady in it. And now, this is quite a strange thing. Determined not to appear afraid, the lady takes out a recorder and starts playing. She was back to the corner. She had no choice. Which would make me just shoot her on the head.

Because I fucking hate records. So it's trying to be a show of confidence. Yeah, I'm not bothered. bang how's that but then Duval then takes one out of his own I don't know why he's why is everyone walking around with fucking it's a fruity your time

everyone's got like a annoying time and they probably pulled that out of a frilly sleeve like a magician yeah do they have really big frilly cuffs yes I think so because that would just get covered in food food and piss and my own time of piss

with like a huge sort of foreskin over your wrist nice for one day and then you'd have you're just know what I've done that entire day. It would be written on my cuff. You know how many times I've taken a shit, how many times I've pissed what I've had to breakfast. You're fucking wiping your ass with it.

No, I mean, wiping your ass. Oh, right, yeah, don't use it as... But how are they wiping their ass? They've got a stick or something? No, they use the frilly cuff bit. That's rank. That's what it's for. It's just your...

It's a toilet paper. You just have it here. Do you have a sort of foreskin over your wrists, this huge floppy hood that you wipe your ass with, you wipe your nose? Yeah, it's a multi-purpose. Awful. Anyway, so she plays the recorder.

He plays the recorder as well. And then he comments to the... And then the guy starts beatbox. This is the start of busking. He comments to the noble that his wife played the recorder very well and would he like a dart? Would he let her dance with him?

This is like a beginning of a porno. I know. Yeah, on the recorder, it's... And they dance on the heath. And when they were done, do vallis-cortso into the coach. And then he says, that it was like one of the nicest dancers he's ever had,

he was charmed by it, but the husband had neglected to pay him for the music, and so he stole 400 pounds from it. So it's like a compliment sandwich, isn't it? I guess. Yeah. They're then thinking, oh, well, well, he was a nice guy. He's taking all my money.

He's taken all my money. It's a bit like Nana's getting scammed. Oh, what a lovely young man from India, that was. Yeah, a lovely young man. And then three days later, when they check the bank account, oh, right, it's all gone to happen to Amanda once. It's happened to my wife. Really?

Monzo, yeah. How much? Quite a lot. And I had to call Andrew because he worked to get him to help. But I was funny because she was on the phone

for ages. It was a family holiday who was on the phone for ages and I was outside listening to Ben Stokes thwack it about at Lords on a sun lounge

and just ignoring everything and then That's what cricket's for. It's what cricket's for and her dad and her brother were all random and she's like something a bit weird

about this call and they were like oh it's fine and then if I was in there I'd be like hang up They don't call you. They don't call you. That's what you got to remember.

But Ben Stokes was absolutely hammering the Aussies at the time. I got scammed out of 150 pounds. That's all there was in the ones though. And they're getting shitty with me as well. But I'm now so, basically if anyone calls me, saying from anyone, fuck off. Fuck off. And even if they go, if it's important. Verifying the app, fuck off.

No, don't call me. Don't call me. Don't call me. Don't text me. It's my money. I love people who scams scammers though. That is such good stuff. What like cycling Mikey kind of thing?

No, no, the people are people who scam him. No, and he's kind of, he would say, but he's a prick. No, I mean the people who, it's the same term justice, isn't it? Those mass scamming factories in like the Philippines or India where they all are in one room and they're trying to trick old ladies out their money. Yeah. But there's a guy who has like an old lady voice distorter and then just takes them on for like a two hour ride. Yeah. And then steals money from their bank accounts because he's so good at hacking.

Oh, right. He like finds their information. He hacks into the CCTV. of the building they're in and sends pictures of them to them. Who are these people? It's like, and then it has them beg.

It is absolutely incredible. But it's also great if like Paddy's mom, she always like keeps scammers on the phone for as long as possible. Yeah. Play's dumb and then at the end doesn't do it. And then they always like, they'll be polite to you until the end.

And they go, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, but then you've waited your time as well then. No, but it's kind of, you know, it's fun to rile them up.

And it is fun to rile them up. Yeah. I do take a lot of my anger out. Oh, fuck off. I take a lot of my anger out on customer service people. Yeah. Anyway, so this is another story from Claude Deval, not Jacques in the box.

He sees a wealthy farmer with a bag full of money. At this time, people are just walking around with bags of money. Yeah. So imagine how Charlie walks around just with cash in a wet plastic bag. I'm just going to say. Just coins. You know when people go to San Diego with a bag of coins to put in a machine to transmit? That's Charlie's actual wallet.

He's a wet bag full of coins. Bag for life. And leaves. No, that's your bag of life. That's all your life is in there. All my stuff. Keys, coins. Will.

Will. Sweets. Anyway, so he sees in Beckonsfield, which again, I've said this before, the best services there is. Fuck Teabay. Beaconsfield's where you are. Okay.

So do you say Teabay is considered the best? Teabay is aesthetically amazing. There's ducks, whatever. Beckonsfield, there's a fucking spoons in a services. Right. That is irrisful. Not responsible, knowing the people that are driving that route, that is irresponsible. The amount of DUIs that must be happening from Beckenfield services.

Right. Anyway, to create a distraction, he, now what's an Osler? It says he bribes an Osler. I don't know what an Osler is, a person who looks after the horses. Okay. Right, a horse wrangler. Phoebe type that in a very weird way. After the horses.

He's capitalized after the horses. The person who looks after the horses! All right, Christ. I don't know Phoebe from a long line of Osolus and just fucking livid I didn't know

what an Osloat was. Anyway, so he bribes one of these horse botherers to lower a mastiff dressed up in a cow hide with horns

down a chimney and then this mad disguised dog creates a panic amongst the people in the pub because they think it's the devil who's just come barking

out of a fireplace I mean yeah, to be fair. And he runs in and steals the money. To be fair, if you had like a dog dressed as a fucking horse

coming, a cow coming out of the fire. But this is like the original kind of like YouTube prank isn't it? Let's get a dog, dress them up as a cow with horns,

shut them into a pub. Everyone would go, ah, fuck. And then they stills the money. Logan Paul in the suicide forest. And it says here, Duval was loved by women of all classes and was always impeccably dressed.

Well, yeah, that's obviously he's written that now. This is when you know, it's like, yeah, every woman love me. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, they love me. They can't get enough. They can't get enough.

They can't get enough. Whenever you've got to tell yourself, post-totty or tart, they fucking can't get enough. And he ends up captured while he's pissed at a tavern and executed despite attempts by Charles the second to save him because I guess he's you know this idea we don't know I guess um but then Charles this is yeah this is Dandy Central so this is Dandy Central so yeah and he was a bit for

the royalists with the fruitier side right this is the gayest England's ever been right yeah that's why I'm uncomfortable here I can't wait to get to the 19th century when it's considered it's considered an illness yeah when you put burkers on chair legs because they're too get rid of them I can't sit from the chair without getting a throb on chairs are too horny cover them up anyway there's a supposed memorial for where he's

buried which says here lies Duval reader if male thou art look to thy purse if female to thy heart much havoc has he made for both for all men he made to stand

and women he made to fall the second conquer of the Norman race so he's getting a bit racial there isn't it yeah anyway but at this point in the 600s that's pretty I guess that's pretty normal

isn't it right fair I suppose so. What is it, Charlie? Is a highwayman sort of like a nasty Samaritan? No. The bad Samaritan? The bad Samaritan. Well, explain that thought.

Well, they're both on the road, but the Samaritan's nice, and the highwayman is nasty. Well, I guess the fact that they're both on roads. Everyone's on a road at some point. Yeah. They're not defined by the road. Samaritan is defined by the road. No, in the original story, they are. And what about now?

But actually, in the original story, a Samaritan is a tribe, right? And the word now means someone who helps you Because of that Bible story Yeah, but from the original thing The Good Samaritan, that archetype That it probably is a He's on the road all the time No, no, Google what's a Samarity is

Who's basically harassing you With good stuff on the road You're... It's a charity mugger It's with a tin Spare a penny for the blind Fuck off Well is that what happens

Yeah, yeah, it's the same look No, it's not the same Was the opposite It's Bad Santa No, it's not Bad Santa Type If you're going to jump off a bridge You don't call bad Santa or good, you don't even call good Santa.

Ah. You call the Samaritans. Yeah, but if you try to kill yourself, you call the highway, man. No, Santa doesn't stop you from killing yourself. He delivers presents. I can see what Charlie said. Yeah. I get what, no, I'm not.

You're being thick. Impossible. Can you, can you, can you Google, who were the Samaritans originally? Yeah, but we don't mean the tribe. I don't mean the tribe. No, that's why he's a light tribe. he's confused is he think the word Samaritan is someone who just stands

on a road. But who was the Good Samaritan? They're an ancient type of Jew, right? I don't know anything about that. That's what I'm talking about. You don't know anything. You're thick. They were an ancient type of Jew. Old Jews. And the parable of the Good Samaritan is an old Jew who stopped by the road.

And we say when you're going to kill yourself, call the Samaritans. We don't say, call the Jews. That would be mad. So like a Mel Brooks kind of thing. Nowadays, they're probably not going to help. Right? What's that supposed to mean? Well, it's a satire about satire about Gaza.

Fair, fair enough. Yeah. Do you need to spell it out? Thought I bet you're uncomfortable there. No. Fuck off.

Nogs in the dungeons. Get to fuck. Cover drive. Six. It's about Gaza. Fuck off. Fuck off. Next.

No, I'm not writing a will. I don't want to die. If you write one, you'll die. That's very funny. Your dad thinks writing a will make you immediately die. It's like, it's not. a suicide note. Is that what he thinks it is? He thinks Will's a suicide note. It's not too

dissimilar. No, so my point is that a Samaritan is now, the word now means someone who helps you, but originally it's someone who's a type of Jew. Listeners will decide who's right. I think they'll go with me for this one. I don't think they will. We'll see. Let's hope. Let's set up a poll. Yes. High women are the opposite to that one bloke, the good Samaritan. Who's the only Samaritan anyone knows? No, no, it's not. Famously, Samaritans are now a charity. Yes.

Who are named after that bloke. I think it's like a generational. Yeah, maybe it's a generation. It's a Gen Z thing. No, I think it's that you're fucking thick. Anyway, 18th century England, no formal police force,

much like today. Right, so it's informal. The police have been discredited. You know, when they say, do a silly photo, do an informal photo. Yes. That's the police force they got.

Yes, the police are like walking around with their hats backwards, ah, you know. Like, Christ's sake, this is serious, lads. Dress up. There's crimes going on.

They've got their shirts on tags. So basically, citizens form mobs. It's mob justice, really. Well, yeah, crime punishment at this point, for hundreds of years in this country, it's been the Hugh and Cry. You're a fan of the Hugh and Cry? There's a Scottish band called Hugh and Cry, I quite like. But do you like the Hugh and Cry as a concept?

I don't know what you know what it is. So basically it means community justice, right? So if someone's been doing a raping or a killing, you go, there's been a rape or a kill? And then everyone chases after him, basically. Oh, fun. Yeah. So that's how justice was served.

And then the whole, if there's a crook, the whole village was just fucking... Well, so if I'm on my street and there's someone at the bottom of the street who I think's done a rape, I'd go, there's been a rape. And then everyone would come out of their doors. Brilliant. It'd be like the Postcode lottery adieu, where everyone's marching down the street. Get him. Someone's knocking on your door. Rapist.

It's the postcode lottery. We're going to turn off of your door and call one of you a rapist. Just the human cry up, please Yeah, here we go So this is the original Yeah, it's raising the hue and cry It's the original council culture Is you shout at someone

They did something You'd run out of them Well I guess this is how people like Gray and Linenham Would discuss how they're being treated You know Yes, okay This is a witch trial

This is a human cry This is trial by combat Yeah, I see But medieval But medieval crime and punishment Is great stuff We could probably do an episode On it

There's so much good stuff Well, talking about good stuff, this is phenomenal, right? Growing lawlessness in the start of the 18th century leads Parliament to enact the Black Act of 1723. Oh, shit. That's one of the, that's quote from a famous parliamentarian of the time when he hears about the lawlessness. And they, basically, because people are going out at night

and essentially blacking up to hide the camouflage. So this is the long road of the controversy of blackface. This kind of begins here. The Null Fielding controversy around Blackface begins here, right? So if you're wearing Blackface at night, it's not that it's a race thing, far from it. It's that you're, it's not cricket because you're concealing yourself for bad, with bad faith because you want to assault someone at night. The long history of the controversial Blackface.

So Blackface is outlawed in 1723. Wow. Interesting. Early that, isn't it? Yeah. I didn't know that. But during the day, Blackface is fine. I think that's it. It's darking one's face at night.

So Matt Lucas is fine. Yeah. Somehow, we talked about this. He's somehow fine. Hello, I'm Doreen Linsky. And I'm Ian Dunn. We're the hosts of origin story, the podcast about the history

that shapes our political discourse today. Our eighth season is all about the story of socialism from its earliest experiments to the present day. From Marx to Mao, Lenin to the Labour Party, Gramsci to Gorbachev, we'll be exploring the people, the events and the ideas

behind socialism and communism. So please join us as we journey through an idea that has changed the world. You can listen to us or watch us on video, on Spotify, your regular podcast app, or now on YouTube. Now, who was Dick Turpin? Richard Turpin, it's so hard not to say Turn it. Richard Turpin. Turpin.

I think he said turd. Richard Turban. To Richard Turban. He wasn't Richard Turbin. These days, probably would be. Richard Turpin. You know what happened to Dick Turbin? These days

Highwayman's bloody Richard Turban Sadiq's London Armad Turban Can't move for Richard Turban Rizwan Turban We can't Richard Turban

Ridgne Turban Siddiq's London Anyway Christ He's born 1705 The height of the Highwayman At the Bluebell Inn

in Hempstead, Essex, which is probably now mosque. Anyway, it's father. But all of these areas are funny. I'm passing all of these places all the time. He's a fucking halalbertcher, his father,

John Turban. If you gig, if you're a gig and comedian in London, most of your paid gigs are an hour and a half from London. Yeah. So all of this is just areas that have terrible.

Horn Church. Off the curb gigs. That gig in Hornchurch. Fuck me, that's bad. That arts, have you done that art. Gravesend. Horn Church. I put a theory,

every off the curb gig, Off the curb. Great agency. Great agency. And also, I know the people who work there listen to this, and you know your gigs are shit. The one in... No, but they're important. They put... Oh, they're crucial in the comedians development. You need to do curb gigs.

And not all of them are shit. I mean, I mean specifically the ones beginning with H. I have a theory that if you ever accept an off the curb gig that begins with H. And it's an hour and a half from London. No, no, anywhere. All right. You're going in for a bad time.

Hornchurch, disaster. Yeah, Hornchurch is bad. Harper Adams, famously the worst. I would get eaten alive for Harper Adams. Yeah, you would get eaten alive for Harper Adams. Harper Adams is an agricultural college in the Midlands and it's like university for thick people that they would say that themselves.

It's a farming university. So you already have... I mean, literally thick people. Thick set. Thick built, right? Literally, now, if you have the kind of energy of Freshers Week with the kind of the ruggedness of farm life, you get this sort of baying mob of uggos and thick people.

Homemade cider. Basically. And there was a story of they make you down a pint before you go on stage. age, whether you drink or not. So like a Muslim comic, drink it. The story about someone who's driving, they're like, no,

we're not going to pay you for this gig unless you down a pint of... He downed a pint of Red Bull, Joe Wells, and I had to go on. It's crazy. The Portsmouth Wedge. I love the Portsmouth Wedge.

That's all right. It's pretty fucking fruity, I feel. Yes, Portsmouth. But Wedgerid rooms, I've got a very special place. Coastal Towns in this country is. Special place in my heart, Wedgerid Rooms. Yeah. I love that.

No, it's anywhere. Anywhere beginning with H. And other ones? Haverhill. Haverhill Art Centre. Dog shit. Yeah. Well, you're really high up on the stage.

And it's just, you can hear your bombs echo around the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You bomb three times because of the echo. Yeah. One joke bombs three times. It's awful. I hate Haverhill. Anywhere beginning with H.

Yeah. Deadly. Anyway. So his father John, fucking, I can't. Turban. Yeah. Diash Turban. His father, Mohammed, Turban, is a butcher.

um a turned inkeeper uh now turnips turpins turpins uh turpins early years are shaped by these trades and he becomes a butcher right he's a butcher's apprentice um and he's described as quotes a fresh colored man i don't know what that means no idea what that means what does that mean what does that mean charlie google fresh colored man i don't know in today's i don't know what on earth they're on about now potentially offensive or antiquated attitude you described person's complexity was having lively, healthy or ruddy color. So red cheek. Red cheek. So drunk, basically. Big, big nose. Right. His most notable physical characteristic was that he was very much

marked with the small pox. Okay. Pock marked face. Was that just like, like acne scars? I guess so. Right. And he typically wore a natural wig in a blue-gray coat, because this is wig, this is this is when the hardest geezer you know will wear a wig. Well, this is when white guys were black women. You never know, can I touch your hair? Is it real or not? You know, you never know. It's a minefield.

Yeah. White men's hair in this era. What I like about this period, it's a rare moment in history where men were serving cunt more than women. Do you know what I mean? Like it was, it was much more. It's the fruitiest thing than this.

It's like the male peacock. Yes. And, you know, in some animals, the man's much like more flamboying. Yeah. Lions. You know. A lot of male lines?

Yeah, well they've got the main The female lines are quite dull looking You know they are, you're right Yeah, female lines also do all the hunting Make an effort love Smile, it might never happen So anyway, as a butcher, Turpin begins supplementing his income

by poaching deer So he's a criminal from the off Right And stealing cattle Now there's something about You need a license to sell venison Or think Or venison is basically only

Only rich people eat venison You need a venison license Yeah, I would love a venison I mean, I love venison license I don't think I don't think you have to learn how to eat it. But this activity brings him into contact with the notorious Essex gang,

a violent group of poachers led by Samuel. The Gregory gang. Jeremy Gregory. Oh, oh, hello, you cuss. Yeah, so it's a long history of these guys. Cheeky chappies. And this is the one thing about highway robbery, I suppose, that it has, armed robbery has got less whimsical.

In this day and age, it's stand and deliver. Then it was stick them up. And now she's got a fucking gun, getting a fucking ground. Fuck it. You know, it's not even that anymore, really, is it? It's Balaclava's punch through your window. Yeah, it's just sort of agi.

Yeah. Anyway, the Gregory gang, they start as deer poachers as well. And they maintain this thriving trade in illicit venison, which I'd love to try some illicit venison. But they can't openly sell dear meat because it exposed themselves because you need a license or something that's basically restricted to gentry. So they need a fence. They need a venison fence, which again,

Sounds like a slur for a gay person. But when they say fence, is that a... Somebody who fences money. Oh, right, right, right, right. But they're fencing venison. So it's someone who can turn... Like, your family used to turn gold money, legitimate. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right, they're old robbers. Yeah. These guys are telling, these guys are sort of turning butchered venison into legitimate. Laundering it. They're laundering deer. Right. If that makes any sense at all.

So Dick Turpin becomes useful as a venison fence. So through his butcher's shop, he provides cover for the Essex gang to export illegal venison. into the local food market. However, by 1734, the gang have shifted from venison poaching to violent breaking and entering. So I've always said, people who start poaching deer

will end up killing people. It's a slippery slope. It's a slippery slope. You've got to crack down on these deer poaching. I know it's not cool to say, but this, you know, you start with deer poaching and it ends, where's the end? Tough on deer poaching, tough on the causes of deer poaching.

That's my policy. You need a license. There's rules to the society. But anyway, they get into breaking and entering and robbery, and so they don't, they don't no longer need Turpin. They don't need a butcher fence. And so Turpin is like, well, I've been quite, I've enjoying the fruits of this butcher fencing.

He joins them as a robber. This is his, this is a kind of entry into the criminal world proper. Between late 1734 and early 1735, the gang start to carry out increasingly brazen raids. These gentlemen robbers, what do they do? Now, this is the funny bit, right? They're actually insanely brutal. And so it's very different from the flag on the veil, that, all that stuff.

So in December 34, 1734, the gang assaults a 73-year-old farmer and steal £300, which is the equivalent of tens of thousands. On the 1st of February 1735, Turpin and his mates threatened to throw an elderly widow onto a fire. They ransack her house and then stay there and feast on ale, wine and meat. Right. So they're beating up old women, you know, chuck them out windows. What's that? There was a crime.

They're in the news every now and then that somebody just fucking robs a pensioner and picks them up. Awful stuff. Just beating up old people. It's real bottom of the barrel stuff. What's worse? Battering a kid or an old person? Old person.

Do you reckon? Yeah. Have you ever seen an old person bruise? They're basically terminal. You depend how old the kid is. The kid is four. Some 12-year-olds need a slap. A four-year-old boy or an 85-year-old lady.

85-year-old lady. Do you think worse? 100%. I've got a four-year-old. Right. Worse than back-handing a four-year-old. Yeah, back-hanging a four-year-old's fine. But an 85-year-old, they've been through enough.

They can't emotionally deal with it. No, they can't. No, they're fucked. They'd be terrified. They're so old to fail. Yeah, but remember, a four-year-old, you back-hand him, he can become a paedophile. No.

You could slap the paedophile bit of his brain. Do you know what I mean? You could, like, no, if you, like, hit him wrong, but all that, all that builds a trauma, that, but 85, it's like, you're already dead. You've got time with the, you've got time to turn the button off with a four-year-old. soon. Yeah, they died 15 years ago. What, do you mean? It's not alive.

What, an 85 year old? Yeah, they're already dead. So you think past 80, they're just punch bags. Already dead. Do you think we've got any 85 year old listeners? Do you know how old or oldest listeners? If you're all right, if you're above, I reckon there's a lot of dads listen to this, but so how old's your dad? 60. I reckon we've got some 60s listeners. Definitely, yeah. No, 70s. Oh no. Someone wrote in, someone wrote in saying that they're, um, they The care home, the guy's got dementia or something,

but he knows history or history makes sense to him and he's been watching all the episodes in the care home. And then they've had to give him headphones because it's distressing some of the other patients. But he might have early onset style. I don't know, but... You know, my granny's in a care home where the guy who founded the care home

got dementia and is now in the care home that he found it but doesn't know he didn't there. Fucking hell. That's the plot of a film. It's like a Christopher Nolan film. The guy who built... at the end is like, I wonder who made this get home. You did, sir.

What? And then it pans out and he's in it. Yeah. That's crazy. Quite sad. So he doesn't make, is he named after him? No. Doesn't that could happen with this podcast?

What? I'm here. Well, you're listening to a podcast. I'm listening to Vindler's history going, this is crazy. This is my saying it's crazy. You're doing it now. What? So, Turpins and the Essex gang's brutalities

draw public horror because this is also the age of the pamphlet. witty pamphlet. The beginning of the tabloid era. Yeah. It's the long road to page three. Yeah. Newspapers are reporting masked men with pistols, roaming villages and attacking isolated homes. So the gang's methods and bear in mind these are sort of cutesy

you know, dandyish burglars. What's the rule but what's the methods? What are the techniques? Yeah. You beat them up, you torture them with fire and boiling water, you threaten to kill them and then you rape them. Ha ha ha ha ha. What bawdy what bawdy villains these people are. So the most

notorious one is the Joseph Lawrence attack on the 4th of February 1735 where they plan a major robbery after obtaining intelligence from a coaching in Westminster. So Joseph Lawrence is an old farmer who they think has money and they beat him drag him through the earth, humiliate him

and torture him. They then pour a kettle of boiling water over him and then Turpin forces him to sit near the fire while kicking and beating him and then one of his servant girls is sexually assaulted. Right. And then all this was for 30 pounds and some plates. Right.

A flag and a veil, melly. A flag on a veil? A rape for a flag on a veil. So, yeah, it's not really, it's not cricket this stuff. No, it's not cricket. Absolutely not. But maybe they go. But people are playing cricket this time.

They are playing cricket. But I guess maybe one of them's got a recorder and that's why it's considered fun or like cute. You know, the soundscape would be quite terrifying. So the Essex, now information for capture of the Essex gang the reward for information rises from £10 to £50 which is a lot Charlie Google how much £50 was

in 1735 About 15 grand Yeah So a lot So the Essex gang collapses in February 1735 When the gang's horses Are recognised outside nail house

Now I mean how are you recognising I guess horses are like cars Yeah They don't have no People are staring at a horse's ass going, I swear I've seen that. Have you got description that horse's ar?

Did you get the horse's ass? Is that what the police are saying? That's my wife, thank you very much. Quick, get that horse's ass, write it down. And then they're just drawing, they're sketching a horse's ass. Quick, get the plates. It's a woman.

That's my wife. Oh, fuck, sorry. Sorry, back end of your wife looks similar. Fuck, sorry, it looked, yeah. Sorry. Good to see why the confusion came from. That's my wife's face.

Oh, apologies. Sorry. So, they recognise the horses and then this sort of mob forms I guess maybe a hue and cry goes up and so including Joseph Lawrence's sons so the sons of the old man who had a kettle boiling water pool over him

Well I guess the modern hewing cry Is when people do lives catching paedophiles And the people in the local area start to Yes That happened to a friend of mine Who was actually A friend of yours was a person It wasn't a friend actually

I shouldn't have led with friends You've gone hard in there I should have said My best ever friend My best man at my wedding is No, someone who was, yeah, he used to go to my university, but he was older than everyone else, and, you know, I did a couple of gigs with him.

He wasn't a friend, but, you know, he was an odd side. It's okay if he was your friend. But then, yeah, some vigilante paedophiles live streamed him outside and out of the car park, literally, but then the police took eight. Why are paedophiles not just doing fucking order, like delivery? And then the police took ages to come. Like, you're going to get caught in a supermarket car park.

So this was on a Sunday. Get a fucking a car, though. Sunday 4 p.m. I was watching the live, by the way. Sorry, where were you? I was watching it on Facebook live. Oh, so you knew it was happening? No, because people have been sending it to me

because we all knew this guy. Right. If somebody you know who's been caught as a paedophile, yeah, it's going around on the group chat, isn't it? I'm getting him in the attic. I'm harboring them in my house. 4 p.m. on a Sunday, as to car park, they call the police.

The police take age to turn up. So the live stream is about an hour and 20 minutes. Wow. But that goes out to everyone in the local area. Everyone's at home. So literally, like a mob starts forming. Everyone's watching it Everyone's watching it

It's like, I know that, Asda So they just It was horrified to watch He's, he's corned in his Azda Carbuck And then people occasionally will just come out And like the paedophile hunters are having to protect him from the crowd Who are like occasionally coming over

Slapping on the face You make me sick Yeah What's he doing? Oh my God I'm pooing It's you know Oh my God

I mean what do you do If you're caught as a paedophile There's only one thing Double down And what? I'm doing it. they were asking for it she was too old

she was if anything yeah I've got autism oh yeah yeah you got her yeah and everyone's like whoa whoa whoa

sorry sorry sorry let him go back up guys give him a medal give him a knighthood give that man a knighthood arise son non-sapidophile shire

son non-sapido shire yeah anyway nowadays nowadays nowadays they frog march of the Buckingham Palace and King Charles

arise So nonce of Piedoshire. Anyway, so the Essex gang are in a boozer and someone recognises that their horses are and a mob forms, including Lawrence's sons and they attack them and so several gang members are captured.

The youngest, only 15, John Wheeler, he breaks and confesses everything which then, I think does that mean that maybe he gets less of a punishment? He avoids the gallows. And then most people are then arrested and executed. So by summer of 1735,

the Essex gang had been annihilated Wheeler is the one who's captured he confesses he's freed He dies 17 38 So he dies three years later age 18 of natural causes Right Christ dying of 18 Natural causes

I don't think you can do that Fishing going on there You can't die of natural causes at 18 Yeah John F Kennedy John F Kennedy died of natural clause Yeah all right mate Yeah

What's going on there Epstein died of natural cause Like it's something a bit 18 Yeah What could you possibly 18 what's what Too many wanks in a death

Like, how are you dying of naturally at 18? Heart attack? Oh, like when footballers get a heart attack on the pitch. Fabrice Moamba? Yeah, maybe Fabrice Maramba did it. Is that natural? He lived, though. Yeah, yeah.

He lived. I remember listening to that on Five Lives. Yeah, it could be incredible. Absolutely incredible. If you had the choice to know your last word, if you know, you don't know how it happens, but if you were able to know. You have to lock it in now.

You get told it now. You know for a fact that your last word. You don't know when you die or how you die, but you find out your last words. Oh, fuck! Yeah. You don't want to be like sorry. Or like, ah.

Yeah, but depends how you're doing. Something ambiguous, like trolley, or lorry. Well, lorry is quite obvious, isn't it? Lorry, yeah. What lorry, bang. That's quite obvious, isn't it? Bin. Bin.

Taking the bins out. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, so you want something that kind of keeps the mystery. Imagine if it's Finn. That would be scary, wouldn't it? No, Finn, please stop killing me. Yeah, because if you're in the South Tower in 2001, And it's, oh, look at that plane.

Yeah. Your last is your last work, doesn't it? Plain. Oh, that plane's a bit close. Yeah. You can't part there, mate. That's what I would have shouted if I was, if I saw 9-11, if I was down, if I was a ground zero. You can't part there, mate.

I need the good new. What are you doing? Bloody hell. God, women drivers. That's what I would have said. Anyway, this has got nothing to do with 9-11. This is, uh... We've done Hitler and 9-11.

I know. It's unlike us. Dick Turpin. Anyway, so Samuel Gregory, the head of the gang. He loses the tip of his nose in a fight, gets his nose circumcised, he's executed and by hanging in edgeware in chains. They all get executed, basically. And then a lot of them get,

their bodies get gibbitted. Now, do we need gibleted or gibbeted? You get chopped up, is it? What's, Charlie, difference between gibbet and giblet. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. Jibbitt is the internal organs of a bird. Right.

It's not that. And gibbet is a public execution structure. Jibit. Fuck. Jibit. Quite a nice name for a horrible thing. So they're left there. They're left there for the crows.

For the crows, I guess. It's like, there's a cage where you're hung as a warning. And then birds just eat you? Is that what happens? So you're just walking through town. There was a dead guy, just hanging there. That would bum me out. Yeah.

It's meant to bum me out, though. Yeah. Do you remember when there was a bin strike? It is, yeah. It's meant to make sure, like, don't fuck about. That's going to be you. Do you remember there was a bin strike? They don't have a full of police force.

Yeah, it was awful. The bins everywhere. Imagine that. Just dead bodies everywhere. Yeah. Fuck that. Mary Brazier was transported to the 13 colonies. So America.

So, only Dick Turpin and Thomas Rowden escaped. He abandons the butcher shop, abandons the pub, and he fucks off into the forests where his legend continues to grow. Right. Now, in our next episode,

we will be joined by James Buckley. Yes. Of in-betweeners fame, of the Buckley's podcast. He will be... An icon, yeah. He will be on to discuss the rest of Dick... Because he's from Essex. Yeah.

So that's where the... That's the link there. Yeah, I guess so. We were trying to think of something. And he's a Muslim. And he's a Muslim now. These days. These days, he's famous.

These days, he's James. He's from the In-Betainers. Yeah, Muhammad from the In-Betwee is. We'll be joining us to... And that episode is already on the Patreon. where for £3 a month you can join one of the last

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We've got the Geisha special We've got Stonehenge special We've got lots of mythology on there Greek myths Norse mythology. Norse mythology was crazy. The Life of Prince Andrew

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A month? Yeah. Fucking sharks. And we see none of that. Evil. That's going to Steve Jobs's estate. As opposed to here. It's supposed to this.

Still from the rich to give to the rich. Yes. We want more soon. Soot. Anyway, those episodes are already on the Patreon. And if not, thanks for stopping by. This has been Dick Turnip. And we will see you on Thursday.

It's been Mohammed Turban. Mahamad Turban the story with Mohammed from the Inbetween us. Goodbye. Thank you.