Fin vs History - Why I’m No Longer Talking To Black People About Race (With We Saw That)| The White Slave Trade (Part 2)

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

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Welcome back to Finn versus History. We're joined by Bemi and Andrew from the We Saw that podcast for a audiovisual race war. I was waiting. I was wondering, what's the intro going to be?

Are we the first you've had? Sorry? Are we the first you've heard? First what? The flex. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Really?

Definitely. Yeah. This is history. This is history. This is history. This is history. Don't make you the last. All right?

Let's have a good time. It's an experiment. It's an experiment. The great experiment. It's an experiment. Because you could have just had one, but you've gone two out of the gate, and you've never had any. That's risky. They're like buses.

Or ships. Yeah. Hey. Excuse me. Now, this is a very sensitive topic for us. You come in at part two of the white slave story. Do you want to recap? Well, the word slave comes from Slav.

They were the first slaves. Eastern Europeans, which kind of makes sense, given how good they are at building. At that building stuff. And we traced the, the, the source. White slaves were castrated and then sold to Muslim empires as eunuchs so they wouldn't fuck their wives.

It's like London today, we're gone. Wow, wow. There's a lot of similar to London today. Sadieke. Yes, it is. Please. We're saying it's the long road to Ulaz, which is modern white slavery. Sadiq or Massa, as we call

them, as we call him today. Yeah, so Sharia law forbid castrating other people, but you could buy a castrated person. And then you get sold into Mansa Musa, the Marlian Empire. Do you guys know? We do know about Mansa. Because you're a family in Nigerian?

My family is Nigerian. Masamuil, he's the OG. He's in the richest person that's ever lived. Yeah. He lived on a gold mine and controlled all the salt. Money? And it was black. Yeah.

It's Jeff Blackos. He's like... No, Amazon. Jungle. Jungle. Yeah. But today, we ended with the start of the Barbary pirates, the sort of North Africans.

And this is very, very serious. now we're going to talk about. So no jokes about this is very serious. No, some things that aren't funny. No. Some things are off topic. And, you know, as white people going through this history, it's bringing back a lot. Trauma.

You have a lot of tarms for, to be honest. Yes, you do. It's traumatizing me. So where did the blacks go wrong? This is what I'm saying. Fumbled. Yeah, we fumbled the bag. We had it.

And we've allowed them to do cultural appropriation and claim that they the slave masters. Whereas we had it first. Yeah. These people are always stealing our shit. Wiggers. I'm tired of it. Wow. I mean, already throwing the W-W-W-N-out.

So how we get back to that, though? How did we bottle it? Because I was looking at the thing with Czech Republic, Prague. They were kidnapping their whites. We fumbled that bad. Now we have to go on these guys' podcasts. Now we're here, huh? Hey, hey.

Now we get a patron, patron. Excuse me. This is a confrontation with our oppressors. Yes. This is a racial question time. I mean, Finn is literally releasing a book called Why I'm No Longer Talking to Race with Black People. Bro.

I'm not talking to black people about race. They don't listen. When I bring up white slavery. No, that book, Why I don't talk to white people about race, I've only seen white people read it. Of course. On the cheap, white people just looking guilty, but they're reading it, yeah?

Then they look up, make eye contact with me on the tube. I ain't making you feel good. Do you know what? Read it, man. Pull your head down, read. I saw a woman get that book out of her bag when they left Victoria on the way to Brixton on the tube. And you're like, cut, car more.

Be reading that from high. She's reading the notes before, yeah. The girls read the research. So where is this? Brickston? Before you get to Brickston, you just like, shame for a nap time.

I bet I see, I bet where whites do that, you know, when the blacks come out, they bring the book out, man. So they feel safe. Now, we're robbing you still. Anyway, yes, you will be escorted out at the studio when we're done. Now, the Barbary pirates, the North African pirates, they peak between 1530 and 1780. We're talking about Algerians, Tunisians, Moroccans.

This is very hard to say. Nearly 1.25 million white Europeans are enslaved over these years. Wow. Devastating numbers. I mean, these are numbers that you trust as well. I completely believe these numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you inflate them? It's one of the greatest number doubters of all time.

By the Northern Africans, yeah? Yes. The sand blacks, yeah, yeah. The sand blacks, they're called. I took the words right out of my mouth. The sand blacks, I like these, man, yeah. The dusty blacks, man. Now, the states, they basically...

Maris and them, man. Sorry? Maris. Maris. Maris. Maris. Maris. Maris is the same.

Maris A lot of Kiwi Maras and a Kiwi man You've got Reharmis

Kid up in Vardi man He said Mare's a slaving Vardy Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Which is kind of humiliating Yeah Yeah To be enslaved By Riaad Morrow Yeah But then you look

At Jami Vardy And you're like Well yeah I mean He just run He drank the eight Red Bulls

Before a game Yes You know There's a level He'd be He'd be He would be He would be

He'd be Running them Fills In In my house. Coyed on his back. Oh, go on body. Big up, body.

So this, this, this, this, basically comes like a protection racket, right? The North African states, they interfere with shipping in the Mediterranean. And they steal white Europeans. And they make them galley slaves on ships. What's galley slave? What's galley slave?

They make them row. They whip them. Oh, shit. Which is rare because when we're talking in the first episode, most white slaves, they had their knobs chopped off. And they became administrative slaves. So they came in as bureaucrats,

which is very funny. Immediately from the beginning, White Say's is like, you're not in the field, you're doing my taxes. You gotta do, man. Also, you may have been rowing for time. Yeah.

I went to, what's it, Henley Regretta? Oh, yeah. I guess so. Henry Regrett. Yeah, I guess that's sort of a... Yes, I suppose it's a slave ritual in a way, isn't it? Yeah. It comes out of...

Steve Redgo. Like, blues music, it's kind of... Yeah. Was it the Cambridge and, was it Oxford and Cambridge Yeah Steve

They'll be humming when they do that I'm a queen I'm a widow Yeah I guess Steve Redgraves Like our Colin Kaepernick Yes

In that He stands for so much more Than just the sport I see I see So now the raids were viewed as jihad Legitimate

Because he's a Muslim slave owners Right So they basically start You've got They do these raids on the island, Italy and Spain,

right, which we were saying is probably the three most work shy populations I mean trying to get them to do any work. They'll be asking for siesta. Yeah, work, yeah, work,

also asking for a carb loading lunches. They'll be falling asleep after a plate of pasta. It's a nightmare. But they then get taken to... Can we have to have a word on the Irish? I do want to say maybe the biggest

fumble of white privilege of all time the Irish. Yeah, the white blitz. If we get like cricket, can you put footage of cricket catches being dropped easy cricket catches. That is the Irish with the white privilege.

They're super white. They're not even any anything close. It's white as it gets. How did you fumble that level? They ended up on the list with us, man. Yeah, it's crazy. How are you like? That's crazy. No, Irish. They went to the Caribbean. They're working cotton farms

in plantations. Yeah. Plotations. Yeah. Irish. If I was Irish, man, how the fuck if I fumbled this? Yeah, but also doing that but getting sunburned. You're not even... He'll be burning in the sun, man. And that's why Jamaican sound like that is because there's some cork, isn't it?

It's true. It's true. I've learned that. It's true. With the accent. Yeah. Herminal. You're a big batty.

Yeah. Boondclard. Blood clark. So, well, the most... The most... The problem example is this is the sack of Baltimore, right? Which is where... What?

Baltimore in... Maryland. Not the wire. No, no, no, the original, the original. The original, Baltimore was in the wild of the islands. Really? Yeah. Because the only bottom one I know is in the wire, bro.

Yeah. But they named all those cities after Irish and English ones. Yeah, this is with Omar. Yeah. Baltimore, man. But shout out Omar. That's the most, that's the best fictional black gay. Hey, y'all's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair.

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Fictional. Fiction. The guy who shoots kids. That's a brilliant gay man. Yeah. Anyway. Because you guys don't know as much gay banter as the way. It's not as funny to be like you.

No, we like, we're not touching you. Yeah, because I like, because like, you like, Paddy like will hug me from behind and kiss me and like, it's a bit much, but I don't see you guys doing that sort of. You're not spooing. He's got ADHD.

Yeah, okay. We don't know what it is. Yeah. I don't think it's like that's the call in deal with me. No, that's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah. Because when you do like Night with the Stars

or any of the nights that, like, we all run, you do come in like, this is getting. Like, you look at us. We're all in our underwear, spanking each other. And I just... Yeah, when I did the night, I'm in the Moth Club. Yeah. I do, I remember, I do say shit like,

I don't like being here. Because they had that turning in a cage, man. Naked. And he was there, the whole show. I'm just waiting to come up. He didn't have been a white slave. His ancestors are slave.

He would have pulled rocks with his head. He would like, strapped. So they'd be doing gay shit like that all the time. And then they'd be inviting me. In fact, that's what, do you know, remember Mark Bittlestone? Yeah, yeah. Did you mark Bittlestone?

Yeah, of formerly IG, poofs are us. That was his IG. He found that I used to be homophobic. Right. Which is true. You hated the gays, man. Yeah.

Now they're all right. No, but then when he found that out, yeah. were good mates. He just kept, like, putting a meeting. Is he the one who went on an anti-Semitic rant and stood for the Green Party? Yeah, that's a whole other story. Oh, right.

I did not hear about the anti-Semitic bit. Whoa, whoa, I know he's a Green Party thing, but anyway, I don't know about that. Are you Jewish? Huh? No, I just like pointing stuff out. He's just rich. That's anti-Semitic from you.

Just a rich guy who runs a media organization. Are you Jewish? I was looking at him. The way he came up with that, the safari ticked the bin. I was like, I got to do. It's not Jewie.

My baby, Jee is a bit Jewish. No, no. But also, completely unrelated, you are not being paid for this. We didn't know that, ma'am. Yeah,

but so the Irish are kidnapped by the Barbary pirates and this raid, a terrifying raid on Village in West Cork. There's a, so there's, they're like,

basically, it's like Tyson Fury is, they're like the sort of gypsies in the Western Court like that. And they get, there's a Dutch captain who has been forced to convert to Islam called Murat Race

Right, Rice. And he's from Harlem. Like all of these words That's been completely different. Dutch Harlem. Dutch Harlem. Which is very different. Bro, that's crazy.

They've been taking the names. Baltimore, Harlem. No, no, you took the name. The blacks took the names. Americans took the names. Yeah, yeah. But did the black American, wait, is that the black Americans take the names

to... Let's just have a quick reminder. So English people started America and then they saw what the arrows were doing and went, oh, these guys would make quite good slaves better than the fucking Spanish. So they then transported loads of African slaves and then they end up moving into areas

like Harlem and Baltimore. And they've got black cities. Okay, so the Africans named... No, no, no, no. The whites have named at Baltimore and Harlem. They're just the black people end up living there. So they become known as black places. Yeah.

But they were named after Dutch and Irish villages. But the Dutch Harlem gloatrotters is not as good at basketball. There's a... There's a Norfolk as well. There's a Greenwich in America. New York. It means York, you know, it's all based off stuff.

Oh, New York. New York! Oh, New York! Is that just right now? Are you serious? You're lying. Wow. Are you serious?

New Yorkshire. Crazy. Finn versus history. Thank you. We're learning. You know, New York was called New Amsterdam until 1780. Don't. Don't.

Sorry, that's too much. It's too much. New Amsterdam. That's what was. But isn't New Amsterdam the thing in Baltimore? The wire. There was a whole series where they section off a place and said, you can do drugs legally here.

And they called that place New Amsterdam. Right. Yeah. Shit. Mind blown. Yeah. I mean, Charlie is absolutely laughing back there. The thickest person in this podcast.

It's just been outflanked. Yeah, that's pretty good. So, now, this Dutch raid, right, Or no, rather, this Barbary raid, okay? There's a Dutch guy who's been conversed to Islam. Murat Race, right, and Rice, he, uh, basically gets, he goes along this, the South Coast. And then there's a guy called, I come over what his name is, Jack something. Basically he gets kidnapped and he's like, oh, no, no, no, go down there.

There's loads of them. They're undefended, right? So he's basically a race traitor. Oh, it's snitched. Chok ice, if you will. But he's white on the inside of water. So it's ice chalk. He's white on the outside, black on the end.

No, no, no. He's white everywhere. White chocolate. then yeah, yeah. White chocolate. Yeah, white chocolate, ice. Yeah. Yeah.

White on the outside and white on the inside. Yeah. Eminem. Anyway. Eminem, yeah, yeah. Yeah. M&M, yeah. White chocolate, but he's all that.

He sells out, the whites, and they go down the coast, the pirates, and they kidnap, like a hundred and seven Irish people from a village, take them back to North Africa, sell them in a slave market to go and work in, fucking. like the court like what are they are they get paraded through North African streets as booty right

they're sold at public auctions in markets which are known as badistan that's like it sounds like a sort of Britain first this was very baddestan yeah

London's gone badistan yeah yeah yeah the buyers would scrutinize the Christian captive stripped them naked they'd use trunchons they were forced to walk jump contort their body to determine

how healthy they were fucking look at their teeth and shit oh so they had Make them do physical activity to see how healthy they were. Yeah, yeah. Jump. It's like doing a medical before joining a club, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's cold. I'm very enjoying this, by the way. I'm really enjoying this. You are? This is very traumatising for us, so I'm glad someone's enjoying it. Someone has to tell the story. Yeah, you tell your story, bro. And we brought you on for a conversation,

a cross-cultural conversation, to try and get to a point where we can talk to black people about race. Because that point is not now. Yes, it's not now. Not yet. I'm no longer talking about race. Finn Taylor. So do you want reparations?

Probably nice. Reparations now. What would you like? But can you put those reparations into an index fund? Yeah. That's the problem. The problem with black who asks for reparations, you're asking for money straight.

I want for cash. No, that's it. The problem. We need a lot. You'll lose that in 10 years. We need a bond. It's compound interest. Invest the reparation.

You need white slaves to do your taxes. To do. taxes. The problem is it's rappers asking for reparations and the money will just go. It's gone. Rins. Rims.

Exactly. Hydraulics, man. New trainers that are clean. Don't buy clean trainers. Keep them dirty. It's how you keep in. That's why the white's got money. Because you keep on, look at this, how fresh this is.

Oh, man. How new is that? You know, invest it. Yeah. Offshore. This is a depreciating asset right here. As soon as you walk out of the shop, that loses at half its value.

Yeah, exactly. The smartest thing to do is take money out, the economy. We do that, do you. Of sure. Yeah, exactly. Switzerland. Mm, in it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, is there any sort of black Switzerland? Do you guys have, like, uh... Yeah, it's, it's, uh, the vape shops and the Hackley Road. We used to, though. Where, where, where, where? No, back in the day, blacks used to have, but the whites would always destroy them. The Black Pound in Briston. They had these local currencies.

And they did that in America, the Black Dollar. They tried these, like... Tulsa, Oklahoma, Tulsa, yes. But then the KKK just came and burn it down. Burn the whole thing down, Black Wall Street. Well, the KKK is like white reparations. Crack. It's aggressive.

It's the white panthers. The white panthers. As I call the KKK, the White Panthers. Okay. The polar bears. The white polar bears. The polar bears is really funny. The polar bears take on the black panthers.

The polar bears versus the black panthers. And you know what? Doesn't that just perfectly articulate the difference in aesthetics? Black Panthers, all black, beret, salute. White guys. A ducks cap. And the dressing a guy. Cool themselves like the Grand Wizard.

Wizards. Yeah. Dungeons and dragons. You're fucking nuts. It's gay. It is so. White supremacy is gay. It is gay.

Grand Wizard. To be honest, genuinely, genuinely, we need black people to keep us straight. Yeah. On the straight. leave us alone, we'll do a lot of gay shit. You need to keep us in line, really. Imagine the blacks designed the KKK outfits. Yeah.

Would have been real. They should have hired some blacks to make the outfits. They just had their fat white wives doing their fucking, making holes in the clothes in the clothes. I believe Kanye is doing some quite good moments. To be fair, that's Kanye. No, Kanye's black KKK stuff. Charlie, do you want to go on GROC and make an AI image of a black guy wearing a Nike KKK

outfit that looks cold as fuck. Just see what comes up. Grock can this do that? Or Grock would. GROC's the racist one. GROC's the racist one. GROC is owned by Elon Musk. So he'll do anything.

You ask it to rank racist and he'll go, yeah, sure. Why? You're not even like easy. Bang. Yeah. But yeah, no black member involved in the making of this suit.

Damn it. It's cold though. It looks good. Yeah. I'd be obvious. But if a black in what you would be bad. It would be like a mic tick on the dress. Right.

Okay, yeah. Have a bit more jazz to it. Yeah. So let's talk about, and this is a harrowing part of the episode, the slave experience for whites, okay? Well, listen, does, that's not art music. No, that's not.

Actually, the music could be impressed. Yeah. Because maybe. I will try to fix you. Oh man. What do you think they would sing? No, yeah. Co-play,

Radiohead. Green... Johnny Cash, wake me up. I hurt myself to do. Mumford and songs, obviously, as well. Now, the galley slaves,

this is considered a death sentence. Men are chained to rowing benches of pirate ships. They're rowing in the fucking Mediterranean. They're like whipped and shit. I mean, you know, there's just no way you guys can relate to the trouble that this was to be. This sounds crazy. Many die from exhaustion.

disease. Someone put to work quarrying stone, comb timber. And also meager rations. Cracker. That's where the cracker comes from. Really? Yeah.

It's called a... When you said the cracker comes from, as in the biscuit or... No, he means the slur. It comes from the fact the white slaves were given... The sea word. Don't say it with a hard R. The C word...

Cracker! Fine. That's fine. It's all right. It's not fine, but it's successful. The fiddler issue of my crackers. I can say that. My crackers.

Horatio's my cracker. Yeah. Charlie, why is honky and peckerwood on the screen? Can you not show very upsetting slurs? White trash, redneck. Wait, isn't cracker? I thought Cracker was because we cracked the whip. That's what I heard.

I feel like you changing this. That was sneaky. Yeah, what's Cracker? What's Cracker me? That was sneaky. I decided that. That was sneaky. He's very Jewish of you.

That was sneaky. The Jewish guys, this is the catching strange. It's a whites versus blacks porn. Look at that. Look at that. Come on. Come on. Come on.

We are now looking at a video of a black designed KKK outfit and there's maybe 100 Nike ticks on it. Probably why. I would wear that. Why does it look like he would be so unsuccessful though in capturing the whites? Yeah. Well, it's just, because he wouldn't get that dirty. Yeah. I'm just saying if he turns up to a meeting and he's trying to blend in

and he's got 100 Nike ticks. He hasn't done his research. So what is the history of cracker? Sorry, can we get that? I'd hate to spread this information on this podcast. The oldest recorded use to find a cracker is a loud talker of faggots. But why is it used against white people?

So whip cracker and corn cracker. So it's both. But what is it really? The term cracker for white people originate essential. American slavery. Oh, I guess, yeah. So it's basically against Irish people. it's what they

right. So, but also, but the, wow. Biches. Yeah, I like that.

So they're given these, they're giving these tiny little biscuits to, that's where, you know, to where I'm deciding the word cracker comes from.

This is before American, African American slavery. So, uh, they're putting, they have to build. So they're all these like Algeria and Morocco. There's not,

they're not countries yet. They're just these massive cities. And so they're all built on the back of white slave labor, you know. Mm. So you go to, you know, You go to

Moscow now. It's fucking not Rabat, is it? Marrakesh. Marrakesh. It's tough. What? Because it's...

When you go back, do you feel your ancestors pain? Well, now I've found out, now I've done a Wikipedia scroll now I do. But I did before. I booked flights this morning.

Nice. Yeah. So what do you, what do you like, so obviously like with black people when we pass it down to our kids and tell them about this.

Oh, there's deafish generation. Like how, how is your kid finding it? We were saying because... She will not go to Haringay. Damn, I understand. We're talking in the first episode about how some white slaves they'd have their dicks chopped off

so they weren't sexually threatening to the Harem. And they used to like serve... I don't get that. Are you guys ever sexually threatening? Well, excuse me. Sometimes, we can be sexually threatening. We got it in our locker. Threatening out.

Russell Brand. Yeah. Yeah, that was... My guy. My cracker... That was threatening. The white Cosby. The White Cosby.

The White Cod. Sadly, the white Cosby is Savile. Let's be real. Yeah, I mean, we do, you cannot compete. You can't compete. You can't compete. If you can't compete, what? Cosby or Saval?

Sorry, if the metric, if the metric is pedophilia, this is a one horse race. You're blown out of the water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't got, nah, I disagree. We ain't got many. You're having a better time with you. Bemi, there's a vibe there.

Come at me, bro. Name a black pedophile. Kelly. Kelly. Yeah, name another one. But there's this difference between ours and yours. Great music. Michael Jackson.

I did Sable do any music? Michael Jackson. No, and when, black, yeah, but he did his worst stuff when he became,

we came to our side. Yeah, he did. I mean that, I mean that into morally and musicly. Although, blood and the dogs, Jackson was not his best one.

But on any, it got, white Jackson was all like, saved the world, saved the, he was trying to fit in with the white. What do you guys do for fun?

Oh, okay. Yes. That makes sense. Yeah. I think Arkelly is like, it might not have the numbers of Savo, but I just feel like he's...

He got the freak off. You got Diddy, which I guess not Pied. But the thing about Arkelly yet, he was confessing for you, he was hiding in plain sight. And it was mad, you got a deepet.

He, he wrote an album for Alia who he was shagging and married. Yeah. And when she was 16, 15, yes. And the album, he named the album, A.J. Notting but a number. And if you look at it, you've seen the album cover before?

That's pretty good. Make a commentary, Charlie, get a photo side by side. But give them the respect they deserve. I am. That's pretty good. That's good. He called himself the pirate piper as a nickname. That's amazing.

Photos side by side of R. Kelly. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that album cover. Look at him in the background of an album called A.J. Not a number. Saville ain't competing with that. That's crazy.

And it's a great album. And he wrote it. Side by side, please. R. Kelly and Jimmy Saville. Who's hiding in plain sight more? That's what I'm going to ask. No. We get Sir James Saville.

James Saville. He got a knighthood for being, for his service to be a knight of the right. Wait, Jimmy got a knighthood. Yeah, he was a sir. That's, that's it. Now, who's,

that's not. No, that's it. That's up to dress him as a knight. Yeah. Yeah. Now, but Arkelly pissed on someone and said it was his brother.

That's amazing. Rkelly did the most hilarious interview ever. But also, because black people would dress better than white people, but I also want to say you look better in clothes. It's not necessarily the outfits are better. For example, I think you look great

in your tracksuits, but Jimmy Saville would try to dress like you. You look like a pedophile. Just saying it's not all that. It's not necessarily the look is better. It's because you're wearing, that's like you wearing a track suit. It's like me wearing a Native American headdress. Right? You're appropriating.

Yeah, you're making fun of pedo culture. Got you. Got you. Yeah, yeah, that's what I do. That's my whole thing. This is what Mensa wears on stage. Yeah, it's what Mentsa wears on stage. Yeah, I can't like, bro. Andrew, somebody is legit look exactly like the challenge as you were.

And I'd be going for those colors as well. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. He just doesn't quite look as hard. You got to tell me, bro. Doesn't go as hard as me, though. He can't pull it off.

No, you can't. So we've got to carry it. I want to get, because I want to get to the US, right? Sorry, sorry, sorry. So this is serious. Serious stuff. Slaves were under constant pressure to convert to Islam, right?

And if they converted to Islam, they were basically freed. White slaves, yeah? Yeah, white slaves. A lot parallels with today. If they are, I mean, sorry, I'm talking about the history. I'm not talking about, modern day London.

So diplomats would all would come to try and ransom. This is the one difference with Africa, well, there's a couple of differences. One of the differences is that you could ransom, you could buy white slaves' freedom. Right. And that like a foreigner could come and like buy them, their freedom and like, they are hostages.

Their dad could come and pay for them. Pick them up. Yeah. It's like when. College kids get off rape charges because their dad owns an oil company. And they're good at swimming. Yeah, brilliant. But if a slave converts to Islam, then those organisations no longer come and ransom them.

So they kind of never go home. Right. Oh, Daski. They're locking you in. They're locking you in. Yeah, exactly. They're not trying to save you. Wait, wait.

To explain, if a slave converts to Islam, no one can come and ransom them. Because the Christians are the ones who are trying to... It's a Christian coming back to save Christians, but if you're going to move to Islam, they're not going to save you. The white Islamic community, not gonna save you, there's not enough of them. No.

No. Even though don't you think Charlie looks like a white Muslim? Yeah, Charlie, man. Yeah, that sort of ginger. If Charlie, if Charlie shaved his head, wow. Yeah, ginger jihad. He does sometimes, yeah. Is there any famous white Muslims?

Yeah, there's one, there's one famous white. Jihadi John? Is he the most. Shinado Connor is Muslim in it? Yeah. She's like, Al-a-Wah-Wah. Kat Stevens? Yes, Kat Stevens.

Didn't know that. What was that? musician is it's um so Caucasian spiritual artist you wouldn't understand yeah it's quite it's all white gospel stuff really um so what kind of white music do you do you do you listen to white music yeah i like disclosure okay that's pretty white that's pretty yeah that's nice i like electronic b oh my god kdby's kind of black yeah he's kind of black what's the what's the white is shit that you listen to do you think i would say bill callahan he's like i mean the blackest shit you listen to is late Kanye West.

Sorry, I know we're going off a bit. That's one of the best jokes I've ever heard. This guy wrote Kanye Howe Hit the thing. It's in my tour show, so that's a good plug for the tour. It's unbelievable. Don't watch him on tour.

It's unbelievable. Have you seen it? No, I want to wait because I'm a real thing. This guy does the whole thing and he just skirts around the end word. He says it with an hard hour. But it's there. The N word is heavily present in this whole bit

and he don't say it. It's a genius. He just scurts it. Without context. How clever is this guy? No, honestly, it's funny. I remember what he think? I put it on my story.

I never post it out of people. He doesn't say the N word in front of people. I text you when you put that out. I literally text him. I said, bro, this is... What's that meme of the black guy doing that? That's me saying the N-bird rather than the actual word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, roll safe.

No, that joke? Top tip. But what do you think the whitest music that you like? I like Adel. Disclose. Adel? Is that an aesthetic thing? Who else?

Yeah. There must be some more. And now she's lost it a little bit. You don't like her anymore. Yeah. I like 21 Adel. 21 stones. 21 in age.

Yeah. That's the real adil. Johnny Cash probably. When she was a Pogue. Johnny Cash. Yes. Is that how you say? Pog, man.

Pog. Pog. A Pogue. Do you like that? Yeah. Oh, the, oh, I see. Was that. Now, the original Pogs were sold to the caliphating.

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American than they only just. America is just so 776 America is independent. By 1801, America is having to pay off these pirates to not attack their shipping right. It's like a protection racket. So by 1801 when America is spending 20% of his whole GDP on tributes basically like mafia protection to not interfere with their shipping. So then Thomas Jefferson, friend of the pod, he liked a black queen. He does like a black queen.

I think he had kids, didn't he have kids? With about five of his slaves. So Jefferson is famously like a complex figure in that he's one of the founding fathers. He writes Declaration of Independence. He had, I think, 600 slaves, but he was against it. So.

I feel him, though. Which is, yeah. I know. I mean, there's bad things I'm against. I'm against eating meat. Yeah, I'm against eating meat. But you eat it. That's what I mean.

But it's wrong, it's wrong, though. Being eating meat is more, you can't defend it. We have a Nando's for lunch. It's completely morally defensible. Literally a delivery driver with Nando's on his back coming in. Yes.

Yeah, yeah. And he has to. And he has to. He has to. Well, that's wrong. That's Monde. That's Monde white slavery. Which I'm against.

I'm against. I'm against that. But where is it, is it nearby? Hurry up. I'll against that, but quicker, please. I'll be more against it if you got here quicker. And don't forget the dips. But we were saying this earlier,

is that like, yeah, there's loads of stuff nowadays that as soon as people stop doing it, you're like, oh yeah, that was terrible. But I'm not stopping. No, you stop it first, then I'll do it. Yeah, exactly. If it became illegal, I'll stop. Yeah, if they banned meat, I wouldn't fight it.

I'd be like, yeah, you should have done that. Oh, I'd fight it. I'd be putting flags of meat of pigs up in the street. I'd be like, fuck this. Pepper pig flags. Raising the flag. First Oolets, and now you ban this. Now you ban this.

Absolutely not. I don't want to live in Sadiq's London, much. So, right. So Thomas Jefferson, it comes to power in 80. Is it 1800, I think? Anyway, yeah, he owns 600 slaves, but he's also against it. He's against it. Which is the, yeah, I mean, it's like.

Fair enough. But it's more like, if you're going to be a slave, you should be a slave under my roof. Do you know what I mean? Is he saying that? If you're going to do drugs, we want to do drugs at home. I don't know if he's saying that. That's what I read out. When he says against six,

it's like, right. You'd rather you be drinking alcohol, hit at a hook. Because he said, he says this will be a moral stain on the country. But right now, it's brilliant. I've got 600. I can't just let them. If you have 600, bro. I've got a plantation to run.

It's that way against me, but my freezer's full of lamb. I can't just throw it out. It's worse to throw it out than to eat it. Yes, you've got to eat it. You've got to let them live under your roof. Yeah. So, well. But also, we were saying this,

that slavery stops when it becomes economically possible to automate the labor of machines, right? It's similar to like AI now. It's never a moral thing. I wonder if there will be a conversation where we're like white, white data analysts are now talking about AI the way that freed black people

were talking about slavery. Free the data analysts. Basically, we're freeing data analysts from the service from this. Now AI has taken their jobs. Rock is, is it Claude? Claude, yeah, that's the big one. Claude taking their jobs.

But like robot hovers are taking cleaners jobs. It's true. Basically. Right. So there's a similar thing where the Industrial Revolution happens and then the civil war in America happens

because it becomes an economic thing rather than a moral, well, it's a moral thing as well. But yeah, right. So before America ended African American slavery, they, what, 60 years before,

they fight a war, their first war. So this is the longest of war. America always tackle. I can't lie, you went into detail of all the white sleeves, but the way you glossed over the Africa sleep, I don't like that.

Andrew, this is, the topic is white slavery. I feel the question. I think we heard enough. We've heard about black slavery. But white slavery could mean both ways. We could be the owners and be owned. We covered this. It's not white slave owners.

No, but I'm just saying the way you skipped it. It was a bit racist. Andrew. Andrew. African-American slavery. Andrew, I searched into Spotify white slavery yesterday. The only thing that came up was this podcast. All right?

So you think we need to. I feel there are enough, there's enough cultural conversation about black slavery. I think more people are talking about it. We need to now. Where's the 12 years of slave for whites? 12 years of data analyst. Where's that film? 12 years of data analysis.

Who's making it? And then he got promoted. I'd be in it though. Oh yeah, you're a fraud. I'd be in it. I'd be in that film. Why? I don't know.

Like, what would I do? Would I be owning slaves? Hmm. I feel like I'd be the ally. I'd be on the white guy. The one black guy trying to get him out. Yeah, yeah. Run, Mr. Run.

Let's do run. So you'd be like the equivalent of woke. Yeah. You'd be asleep. Yeah. Because there was a white guy that did that. Famously who freed blacks. He used to shoot their man up.

They made a film about him. Ethan Hawke played him. John, have you not heard of this guy? No. There was a white guy that used to shoot slaveholders back in the day. Fucking sick. Like Django on China.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was a white guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Ethan Hawke. He's got a mixture of his daughter. The good Lord bird. Is that it?

John Brown. John Brown. John Brown. Wow. John Brown. John Brown. John Brown. He used to kill Black.

Yeah. John Brown. He was on job. He was on it. Real ally. Yeah. He was killing whites. He was not reading the book.

He was killing whites. John Brown. That's the day. That's what I'll be on. I'll be on the bus to Oklahoma. You'd be on that. You'd be killing blacks. On the bus at Oklahoma.

With the blacks sitting in the cafe getting beating up. Yeah. You fucking crack a lover. Yeah. Call you a cracker lumber yet. So, Jefferson basically decides to start

America's first foreign war. It's the long road to Iraq, Afghanistan. He sends his gunboats to the Mediterranean to take on the scourge of the white slave owners, right? 60 years before...

So slavery has got... He's got six of slaves. And he sees white slaves. He goes, well, that's an absolute aberration. We've got to start a war over that. This is the first Barbary War of 1801. We should place this.

What we do on the pod is that we place a year with something that happened before or something that happened afterwards, just because our listeners are very thick, right? So do you want to give it a go? 1801. You know anything that happened before that? Anything. 1801, anything that happened before. Jesus.

Jesus. It's after Jesus. Very good. And it's before. Anything. It's before Arsenal winning the league. Also winning the league Look at that

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It's a board cushion Because now I think we reset the clock Now Arsenal won the league Yes Zero again You mean the most recent time Arsenal won the league Because you could place it

In the 50s when they won the league How many doesn't Why would you Why would you? Why would you? Why would you? 2026

So that's the first Barbary War It's about It lasts four years Jefferson says if we mean to be a respectable nation we must protect our commerce not by begging but by strength

he sends gun this is the first I think it's the first US Marines the first thing they do go and stop white slavery they the conflict goes on for about four years now there's this operation now the Brits aren't protecting them

because they've recently been kicked out of America so American Brits don't get on so American Navy isn't that good yeah so they're getting pummel a bit by the Arabs. The USS Philadelphia is this ship that gets captured by the Arabs. And then there's a special operations. Similar to the Venezueling operation.

Very similar. It's a special operation where a guy called Stephen Decatur, he sneaks on to the captured ship at night, disguised as an Arab. Right. Wow. And he says, I have the captain now. Which I think you should. Basically, just the first. I am the captain nest.

You didn't know. Okay. Yeah. But he said as a white, I'm the captain now. I am the captain now, right? Actually, I'm the captain now. Actually, I'm the captain now. I think you'll find I'm the captain, man.

Yeah, yeah. So he sneaks on and then tortures it, sets fire to it so it can't be used, and then sneaks off again. Wow. Pretty sick. That is sick. But yeah, it's interesting.

So it's Libya, right? So it's reverse Gaddafi. This is Reverse Gaddafi. Yes, this is, and then Gaddafi, Reagan sent warships to Libya. Number one terrorist in the world. In 1980. So this is 100, it's long road. Gaddafi was that old?

1980. Gaddafi. Gaddafi. Yeah, he's been around. His reign was 50, 40. 50 years at the top. Yeah. He did good, man.

hosts, fuck me. You know, it's like, I get this when I watch your clips, I get so jealous of having an entirely black audience, because just the energy is so fucking... Yeah, when you know how to do it? I'd love to do it. Reparations.

Yeah. Do I get paid for it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In crackers. No, no, because they're not paying enough for this, so balance. Okay, fine. So I have to work to be set free. Yeah. Fine.

For sure. This is very fun. If you are ugly, you are ugly. Stop talking about inner beauty. Men do not to walk around with X-rays to see your inner beauty. Who is that from? Mugabe. That's genius.

Men don't walk around with X-rays to see your inner beauty. Brilliant. African dictators are basically, they speak like stand-ups. That's so funny. That's so funny. And that's why Trump is an African dictator. It's just,

but he has a white guy power, so it's not as fun. Nidio, I mean, couldn't do much damage. Trump is much power American dictator with actual power Ay. Idiot mean got rid of all the Asians

But in Uganda The economy Immediately this Yeah And they're all going to fucking They came in Mayfrey Charlie XX She's her family's Ugandan

Yeah So the first Barbary war ultimately Ends with a treaty 1805 But the US still have to pay the states like $60,000 in like reparations or something

oh but there's also a fucking invasion they they they this is the first American troops middle Eastern what is it called the march

so this is America in the Middle East basically this is the start yeah March to Dernor 18035 1805

Special forces go through the desert and then they go to is it the city called Durna which is maybe is it Moroccan or

I don't know maybe somewhere in one of these states and they pinch of them it's in Libya and they have gunboats

firing on the port and then they the Marines come in around the back I said yeah it's the first time you had boots on the ground and the country's 20 years old so it's like it's always been the world's policeman but the first instance of it being a world policeman

is to stop white slavery I find that absolutely hilarious so then there's this like peace but then it all kicks off because the Napoleonic Wars I don't know how crossed that you guys are I watched the Napoleon film yeah terrible

white and white crime is just not that ain't interesting no it is. Right. Well, you need black people in it. You need no... You need black people to be victims or perpetrators. Yeah, right. For it to be interested. That's why Moonlight's

like, whatever, mate. Yeah, for you. It's just, well, this is these guys, it's fiction, isn't it? Yeah. Because those people don't exist. Yeah. Yeah, gay. They got ADHD. Yeah. Yeah. So there's, yeah, so they remade Moonlight for a white audience and they called it, I swear, I think.

Anyway, um... Nigger! Shout out to that guy, first time it's been said in the pod. Wow. Yeah. You'd hope so. Yeah.

You'd hope so. Wouldn't you hope so? You're the first black gadget. You'd hope so. Yeah. We don't know what. Al Murray was dropping Edponson.

Join the patron. Join the page. Yeah, I'd say, behind that paywall, anything. These niggins behind it behind the paywall, man. We've had a couple of close shaves with the pineapple. What's a say? So the Napoleonic Wars kick off,

which means that England and France are going at each other, right? Gay shit, who cares? Yeah, it is gay, yes. Yeah, no, it is gay. It's white gay stuff. Yeah. Like, we're all wearing, like, the fucking got plume in your hat. Yeah.

Like, it's very, like, corsairs. Yeah. And then the US and Britain started war in 1812. And then the Britain at this point has got an amazing navy and US got fuck all. So they find that, so when the war kick, of the Americans can no longer patrol

the Mediterranean and the Brits we go to the North Africans why don't you fucking start taking white slaves again and attacking American ships right because we're pinning them down in America I didn't know we're damn So we what I say see we When I say we in these contexts

I don't know which side of all it I should be on here What is we? Was Britain supporting white slave? But we too Nah, I don't ask man It's us too We got to say

Oh so Tommy Robinson get us out of here, man. It's true, yeah. The million, man, white march is actually 50,000. I think it's true. 40,000, actually. 40,000, yeah. Yeah, but you guys, so you guys would.

So you guys were basically like, oh, America, okay, you told them to take the white slaves back. Just to get back at America. Sneaky, yeah. Wow. So at this point, I think we might be trying, are we trying to end slavery in African 1812, or is that a bit later?

So I think we're trying in the 18. So is this a period of where, when do we try and end black slavery? That's 1840. 40s, right? It's wearing the quakers, I don't know. But we're sort of using, the conversation's obviously around at this point.

There's a lot of people who are like, this is immoral, this is awful. And there are some people who are sort of trying to weaponise it. Oh, fuck, it's 1807. Do you think, so obviously now... England's laborious slavery in 1834, but the first act's 1807. Obviously, overly liberal people now

are incredibly annoying. And they always think that whatever they're saying is they're like fighting the slavery fight. Yes. Do you think back in the day that abolitionists were as annoying as the Liberals now? Yeah.

Do you hit? I find that very funny that they were Because it was Actually Shut up Yeah yeah yeah Yeah 100%

That's how it would have been No you should actually If you're gonna have so You need to treat them well Fuck off It's a free country Yeah Not for you

But for me it is You're only saying that Because you don't have a slave Yeah It's the politics of envy It is the politics That's the Confederacy man Your Confederacy's

The Confederacy's bad The Flags So Free the Whites man Free the White's man Free the White Freedom rights. I'm not saying freedom and then, but...

No, no. Free them men. Free them men. So by this point, yeah, the Brits basically weaponise it, and they're like, hey, why don't you start needing white sticking the stealing slaves again. They then start and then... Second Barbary War. Yeah, so the Brits and the Americans stop that war.

And then the Barbary pirates are caught with their trousers down because they're like... So you get the picture of Peter Manderson? Yes, this is... It's more Hugh Edwards, I think. Okay, right. Yeah, Hugh Edwards here. It's Hugh Edwards with his bum. Have you seen this pick?

You must see this. I mean, this is pretty gay shit. I don't know. Is this coming? Oh, I've seen you. This is a bit. That one. You get in this.

See? You get in this, Andrew. This is how many, like, white pedos there are. We forgot this brother. They just got like, you know how in the Prem? You got the top six in it. Big six. Big six.

But they got, mid-table. They got good mid-table players that win FAC cups. No, no, no. Sorry, you're talking about. This is Brentford. No, no, no. It's like, Hugh Edwards is like a super. League founding member.

You reckon? Yeah. How come? No, he spoke at the Queen's funeral. He announced it. He announced it. He announced it.

He's a big player. And under the desk. The Queen died. He was not wearing trousers the entire time. The entire time. So what was he said? So he's top four, top six? I don't know.

I'd say he, I'd say most Villa at Newcastle for me personally. No, he announced the Queen dying. Yeah, but what was he actually doing? He's buying Chapporteur. And Scull of the Champions League. We don't know. We don't know. We're all waiting.

We're on tent to hooks. Who's the top five though? Who's the top five? Pidos. Saville, uh, take, uh,

number one probably. Gary. Harris, Glitter. Yeah. Gary Harris. I mean, Epstein. Epstein number two.

God. Epstein number one, if he really think about it, he's number one. There's a lot to learn for Epstein. Ian Watkins. Ian Watkins was a bit more of a down the line.

Oh, That's a bit, big table, no. You know when someone's not watching Breaking Bad? And you're like, oh my God, you get to watch all of the first time. Oh, yeah, yeah. He don't know who Ian Watkins is. Ian Watkins is. Wow.

Oh, he's the guy. He didn't he get killed in jail. Yeah, yeah. I know him now. I know him. That's he killed. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah.

Oh, I just remembered what he did. Ain't the one that was with the baby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lophe's not doing that. What is. Bemi, come at me.

Cospy's not doing that. No. C Cospy not doing that. about here what's Sam. Like Rodby Bemi, Bemi,

Cosby's not doing that. No, cause me not do that. Yeah? He'd at least jogging first. Yeah? Peter Fiddher is a white sport. Peter Fiddher is a white sport.

That is a, no, you lot are winning. Thank you. I don't want to take that away from that. That's what I wanted to get from this conversation. Yeah.

Okay. Honestly, you can have it. You can have it. But as long as you give us back the best slave, like we're the OG slave owners. We don't have much. We want that back.

Yeah. Well, look, let's just finish the story. So the second, 12 ends, barberries are caught with their pants down, like Hugh Edwards, because suddenly America have got this very, like, trained navy, they've got nothing to do. And so they then point their guns at the barberries go, right, we're actually going to stop this properly. And then the Brits get involved with the Dutch and the French, I think. And so this whole, like, it's like it's fucking Iraq. It's a coalition of the West, coming to the Middle East to stop it. So they

say it aggressively, hey? It's been happening. It's been happening for you. Yeah, so they're great. They sail along the North African coast with warships. This is gunboat diplomacy. So they basically, they capture ships and then they say, they go up to these ports and say, we're going to fucking ruin you. We're going to level your city unless you released all the white slaves that you've got. I think when they get to, is it Tripoli or Algiers, they release like 3,000 white slaves.

And then... We shall overcome. Free Edlers, free at last. And then there's one city, Algiers. in Algeria that does not comply and then, is it the Brits just send a massive gunboat and they fire 50,000 cannonballs

into it. So Alger is like the Confederacy. They basball, Algear just bang. They flatten it and then there's a treaty signed in 1815 which basically is the death of the Barbary states

as economic entities. So their entire economy is destroyed. Yeah. So yeah. They had a good run though. They had a good run. 300 years. They had a 1.25 billion.

They don't get their flowers. They don't get their flowers. People always talk about the Romans and that. I never heard of these guys. No, right. They had a good run. There's a bad chordial jas.

So they release American captives. They pay to compensate. They end the tribute demands. Obviously, American newspapers declare everyone a national hero. Yeah, this is quite interesting. Decatur, the guy

who leads to the Second Barbary War, says, our country, in her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong. So basically that's that's American foreign policy and then on in.

We're always right wherever we go. Decatur, another place named Atlanta. Well, there's a place called, there's a place called Decatur and Atlanta.

Is it? Oh. The outcast. Probably is named after him. Maybe. So, yeah, then, so then the European powers after the end of the Napoleonic Wars,

they then reach the consensus so they go to Algiers and they level it in 1816. That's when that happens. And they abolish Christian enslavement. But white slavery still carries on until the French Algerian war

in 1830, I think when they actually fully end it and... That's kind of the end of white slavery. Finally, the scourge of white slavery. But it carries on in the East in the Ottoman Empire. Yes. And to be fair,

I mean, there's sex slavery now, basically. It's where it is human trafficking. It's called human trafficking now, but it is basically what... You think of taken, white slaves are now. So by 1830, white slavery has been defeated. it would be another 35 years until African slavery

black slavery was stopped was it harmony then 35 years until it was stopped not started oh stopped so it's going on simultaneously yeah gotcha oh yeah did you not from the time that's all the whole time we're talking about this I just keep thinking about the other side

yeah because this is a discussion of white slavery the whole time I'm looking at the timelines I'm like but weren't these man it's irrelevant what's going on yeah okay what's funny is that The same people who were running the black slaves were fighting a war to stop white slavery. Yeah. That's crazy.

It didn't even stop. That's white privilege. That's white privilege. I mean, to be fair, that is white privilege. That's white privilege. Right there, summed up. Yeah. You're owning black slaves, ending slavery somewhere else.

Tye. Kai. It's good to be white, man. How's it feel, though, for real? So bad, actually. Yeah. Some people, a lot of people complain about at the minute, but I still think it's pretty good. I would say, yeah, because we, I say, like, to me,

When I hear whites complain like about losing your stuff. It's not as good as it was. But this is what I mean though. I said this to Andrew the other time, yeah. It's basically that like what white people do is like they're like, it's like the Bundesliga. 20 of the leagues you win 16. But every now and again, Levecruz and get one.

Yeah, yeah. Doorman get one. And then they're watching the analogy. So who's... You're buying. You're buying. Right. The white men that are complaining that white.

that white men are losing everything you're buying Munich Are you saying that like maybe the kind of the woke era that was Levecouzen winning a league Yes And then we're back to it Yes

Yeah I see what you mean All it was is Leavacuzon won One league You still won everything Yeah I'm off And all Bayern fans were like pissed off That Leavikuzon won

It's like you won nine out of ten leagues Exactly So buying fans were in the street Going oh it's changed It's woke So the thing is when I look at the Bayern league I often think Because Arsenal only just won a league

I think city, doesn't it get boring winning? But now I know being white, it doesn't get boring. It doesn't. It doesn't get boring. Winning always feels good. That's what it is. Winning always feels good. And you can never get boring.

You can comedians say the same jokes for 20 years. The thing is also, every now and then you need to lose to remember how good it is to win. So you're saying that kind of the Black Lives Matter all of that period, it's made it feel sweeter. It gave me a good perspective. on how good white privilege is. Yes, yes. You've got to put it in context. I've got to say thank you so much.

Thank you so much, George Floyd. For reminding me what I have. Yes. Yes, I think that is important. That's what I took from it anyway. That's what it's the right lesson. That's what it's meant to be taken. That's what we were trying to do.

Thank you. That's what we were trying to communicate. Well, this has been an enthralling conversation. It really has. Cross-cultural. Check out your pod. We saw that. Pod. Follow your Instagram.

Your crowd clips are fucking awesome. You do shows. every month, every week. Well, I used to be one a month. Top secret. Yeah, three a month. Yeah. Last Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday.

I will say if you're watching this and you buy tickets, you will stand out. Yeah, you will. We get whites, though. We get a few white. What kind of whites? The whites don't show up in the clips. You know, the whites don't show up.

The clips are black on black violence. Let's be real. No, no, we got a few. But fuck me. It's funny. Femmy. What kind of whites are we talking? Cool whites.

Cool whites. Clean, train. White. Clean trainer. They've got mixed race girls. They've got mixed race girls. Yeah. Never whites with whites. What whites are we bring? Pink Safari suit whites. Yeah, there's a white. We've got sort of like Star Wars T-shirt white. One of my friends is a white. Nicko, shout out Nico. One of my whites. He loves you guys, man. Oh, of course he would. Yeah. We're big in white culture. Neck beard whites.

Sorry, so is Nico fully white? Is it or is there anything? Is it cut with anything? Him? Yeah. Mexican. Oh, it's not pure. He's Mexican. He's, he's, uh, I don't know how he found us to be He's Mexican Well check out We saw that on all the platforms You guys want to plug in anything? Any shows? No, enough for really

Yeah, we saw all the shows are sold out until We don't really like It's not, we're happy you're plugging it But we don't really need your support You don't, man You are white slaves

Wow Well quite Yeah, we don't really need it But no, we appreciate you guys Yeah, but thanks Anything for you so Yeah, we're doing This is us giving back

This is reparations That's why we're here So Barry and you're going to stick around We're going to do the Patreon which is on Black Caesar. Black Caesar, yeah. And other than that, we'll see you next week for a brand new topic.

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