Financial Feminist - 231. Ask Tori: Where Should I Keep My Money?

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today, I am answering all of your questions, everything from high yield savings accounts, to investing, to credit cards, to how to avoid the biggest financial mistakes. Let's get into it. Hi, financial feminists. Welcome back to the show. My name is Tori. I'm a money expert. I'm a New York Times bestselling author. I'm a multimillionaire and I've helped over 5 million women save money, pay off debt, start investing, start businesses and feel financially confident. If you're an oldie but a goodie, welcome back. And if you're new here, welcome to the show. We're excited to see you. We hope you stick around. Today I am taking voicemails and questions straight from you all. If you want to submit
Starting point is 00:00:41 a voicemail or question for our next episode, you can go to speakpipe.com slash financial feminist. Again, that's speakpipe.com slash financial feminist. And we might use your question on the show. We like to do these Ask Tori episodes every once in a while just to get a bunch of different questions answered, a bunch of your concerns, and especially the ones that are really topical. We've got some great questions, everything from, should I be investing right now, even if the stock market's crazy? To, how do I use credit cards?
Starting point is 00:01:09 If I have a better relationship now than I used to with money? And what is a high-yield savings account? Why do I actually need one? Should I have more than one? What's the advantage of doing that? But before we take questions, let's start with a win. It's always a nice thing to ground us in celebratory wins, to cheer on members of our community. And this win is from Caitlin. Hey, Tori. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Can I just tell you that I just want to say thank you. So I've been a huge fan of yours for years. I've actually met you when you came to Chicago for your book tour. And I switched this like stale Roth that I had been sitting on last year. And I switched this like stale Roth that I had been sitting on last year and I moved it to Charles Schwab. And I swear I used to have screenshots on my phone that broke that said my money was invested. So this year when I was doing my
Starting point is 00:01:56 tax getting all my tax up together, I noticed that my money didn't look like it was invested. It's been bugging me and you always say I listen to you say it so many times, make sure your Roth IRA is invested. And guess what I found out today? It wasn't invested. I had to actually go in and buy the stocks, the mutual funds. I didn't realize that. So I just wanted to say thank you. Because without your like little angel self on my shoulder, reminding me almost every podcast, take a shot, right? To go look and make sure my Roth is invested. I would have been just sitting on a cash fund for years and I know so many people get stuck in that accidental trap. My money is invested now, I'm gonna make more money.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Let's fight the patriarchy, girl. Thank you so much. Okay, guys. Okay, guys, vulnerability moment here. If you're new to the show, fucking strap in. Okay, we just posted about this on Instagram, but last year I got memed by these like far right, like Incelbro accounts on social media.
Starting point is 00:03:10 It had millions and millions and millions of views. And to be honest, I like barely thought about it because I was like, I have better, bigger shit to fry, bigger fish to fry. I have bigger shit to do. I have bigger fish to fry. I just have to like keep moving and I can't think about this.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And then I reposted the video, the original video that we did a couple days ago on trial reels. And if you don't know what that is, it's like this new Instagram feature where you can basically like post your content, typically like your older content that did well, just try to get new followers. And lo and behold, after like two days, it went to all of these in cell bro accounts again, half the comments are like, oh, I've seen the original, which means, god, how many people have actually seen this video? How many men have seen this video?
Starting point is 00:03:51 And then the other half are just horrible things about my appearance, about how I'm unlovable and I should go die. And it's just been, it's been a really hard couple days and usually this shit doesn't get to me because it's just so constant. We probably get a hate comment, and I'm not exaggerating. We probably get a hate comment every minute.
Starting point is 00:04:11 This is like every five seconds. And so, literally just before I hopped on with Kristin, I had my fun little cry moment. It's just, it's scary to be online. It's scary to put yourself out there. It's scary to have a bunch of really Hurtful things said about you but not only that that there's this many like shitty men in the world Like that's the thing I keep thinking about because I have a lot of really good men in my life
Starting point is 00:04:34 And I'm like, oh, this is the minority and it is but like oh This is just like a couple of shitty guys and like no they're they're in my comments It's tens of thousands of people. And then just this nice message. I really, I just needed those today. Okay. To break it down, Caitlin, couple really cool things you're doing. First of all, I can tell you listen to the show a lot because I always make the joke. If I've said something a million times in the show, take a shot. If you've heard me say it and you'll end up drunk on the floor. But yes,
Starting point is 00:05:02 I talk about this all the time is that the vast majority of people open an investing account, they think it's like a bank account, right? So you open your Roth IRA, you open your 401k, you open your general brokerage account, but no one tells you to do step two, which is actually to invest the money. And I have a whole section in the investing chapter of my book where I talk about how to do this, how to make sure it's invested. But what ends up happening for countless women, including Caitlin, who even is a loyal follower who's heard me say this, is that she wasn't invested. She had not done step two. And that's not because Caitlin or anybody else is stupid. It's because nobody teaches you. And what happens if you don't do step two is it's just like a bank account. Your money's just sitting there in
Starting point is 00:05:44 financial purgatory and it's actually not even a bank account is it's just like a bank account. Your money's just sitting there in financial purgatory and it's actually not even a bank account because it's not earning you anything in interest. It's just sitting there in financial purgatory waiting to be invested. So, Caitlin, I love that you figured it out because the thing that keeps me up at night is the women who don't figure it out,
Starting point is 00:06:02 who spend literally decades investing, in quotes, investing their money when it's not actually invested. So I love that you caught it. I appreciate you sending in the voicemail. I appreciate you listening to this show and reading the book. And we're so glad that we prevented you from literally potentially the most costly
Starting point is 00:06:22 financial mistake of your life. Because if she had continued to put money into that Roth IRA and not invest it over her lifetime, would have costed her probably two to three million dollars. That's a lot of money. So please learn from Caitlin. Learn from when we talk about this. Please make sure you're doing step two. And the easiest way to check is exactly what she did.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Oh, the money's the exact same. Like I put in a thousand dollars, it has not changed. It's probably not invested. Caitlin, I appreciate you calling in. I appreciate your win. Please everybody learn from this use case. When we come back from a word with our sponsors, we're diving right into answering questions
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Starting point is 00:09:42 We are taking a first voicemail from Martha about high-yield savings accounts. Let's listen in. Hey, Tori. My name is Martha. Is there any advantage or disadvantage to having more than one high-yield savings account? I started my own high-yield savings account a few years ago, which is where I keep my emergency fund. But I also have a high-yield savings account that I inherited with a modest couple thousand dollars in it. Is there any advantage or disadvantage to keeping them separate or should I just consolidate? Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I think this is a great question. It's a common question, which is, should I have more than one bank account? And if so, why? If you're new here, high yield savings accounts are just like everyday savings accounts, except they're going to earn you more in interest. At this point, I should have the words high-yield savings account tattooed on my forehead. I say it so much. It is one of those, again, take a shot when you hear me say it, but it's because everybody
Starting point is 00:10:34 needs one. They're just like everyday savings accounts, except they're earning you more in interest. Why wouldn't you have one? The one that we recommend, which you can find if you're curious at herfirsthundredk.com slash H-Y-S-A, has the capacity for you to break up one account into different sections. So you'll hear this called like vaults or buckets. So this is a nice way for you to have one high yield savings account that's earning you the most in interest, right? But it's getting broken out into different financial goals. So Martha, you have this inherited high-yield savings account and then you have
Starting point is 00:11:08 your high-yield savings account that was yours for your emergency fund. And that's exactly why everybody needs a high-yield savings account because everybody needs an emergency fund. So if I was you and I was using the one that we recommend, I would just combine the accounts but have them in different vaults. I would have one that's my emergency fund, and then if I'm using this money for something else or a different goal, maybe it's a wedding fund, maybe it's a vacation fund, maybe it's my pet emergency fund, right? That's where I'm going to have my money in different vaults.
Starting point is 00:11:37 The reason why we actually do want to think about your money this way of multiple accounts or like multiple segments in one account is that you need to give every dollar a job. Every dollar you have needs to be there for a particular purpose. I know a lot of women end up making a mistake with their savings because probably if you were taught anything about money the one thing you were taught was save, the importance of saving, right? And then you just put your money in an account, but you don't really know why you're doing that. And it doesn't really have a concrete purpose. So that when you do encounter an emergency, you like feel guilty for trying to take your money out, right?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Or when something happens in another regard, right? You want to go on a fun vacation and you've saved your vacation fund, but it's mixed in with your emergency fund, right? It's hard to delineate which money is which money. So this is a nice way for you to have all of your money in one place if you want it and to have these like different segments, right? The vaults, the buckets, so that you can identify what money is what money. So I think Martha, if you want to take both of those high yield savings accounts, put them together. Amazing. You can also just keep them separate, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But if you get to the point where you're opening high yield savings accounts at a bunch of different institutions, then it's like, what's my password? What's my login? How do I remember to pull this form for my taxes, right? This is what I just encountered is unfortunately, I have made the mistake of opening up
Starting point is 00:13:02 a bunch of high yield savings accounts in a bunch of places, because I'm like a little squirrel in winter I've like put my nuts in different trees and I have to remember what trees my nuts are buried under and so That's one thing that it just gets to be slightly more complicated So unless you have a complicated financial situation like I do for example One big account with different vaults or different buckets is a great way to go and again You can find my high yield savings account recommendation at herfirsthunderk.com
Starting point is 00:13:28 slash H-Y-S-A. That was a great question. Let's take another. Hi, Tori. Can you please explain the pros and cons between a credit union, a brick and mortar bank, and fully online bank? I currently use a fully online bank for their high yield savings and I also use my local credit union for other services. My husband
Starting point is 00:13:52 however, he uses a common brick and mortar bank. The reason being is that his job is primarily cash tips, so he says that he needs that convenience in order to do the cash deposits of having the brick and mortar bank. I'm trying to convince him to do a credit union because of the other better benefits that they provide. But you know if he can provide me with insight on any further pros and cons between the three, that would be great. Thanks. This is a great question from Erica, and I think it is a super common one, which is, do I need to have a brick and mortar financial institution that I go to? Should all of my money be in an online bank? For a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:14:44 that's why they don't sign up for high-yield savings accounts is there's this like, I can't see it, I can't feel it. So like, what's gonna happen with my money, right? If I just deposit it into an online bank. Let's do definitions first. An online bank is where you're gonna find almost every high-yield savings account.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Online banks exist to solve a lot of the problems that brick and mortar banks have had. And the reason online banks offer high-yield savings accounts and the rates are so high is because one, they don't have the costs of a brick and mortar bank, right? They're not paying for rent or a mortgage on a physical location. They're not paying for tellers.
Starting point is 00:15:22 They're not paying for a massive bank vault somewhere. So these are things that allow them to offer a high yield savings account at a really high interest rate. They also are trying to get your business. They are putting marketing dollars behind making this savings account the more sexy option, right? Higher interest, the one that we recommend has no fees and no minimums. It solves a lot of the problems with traditional banking. When we're talking about a brick and mortar bank, there's more problems than solutions, to be quite honest with you. They're charging typically fees for just keeping your account open.
Starting point is 00:16:05 If there's not a certain amount in it, this is the minimum part of no fees and no minimums, they're going to charge you a minimum fee. They're going to charge you an account management fee sometimes. Their interest rates are shit, quite frankly. They're not very good. They're like 0.3% or less. The brick and mortar bank that I use, and again, I'll tell you why I use it in a second, it's not even comparable compared to a high yield savings account.
Starting point is 00:16:33 This last one, a credit union, is the kind of happy medium. You get a lot of that perks of being in person. But I remember when I was buying my car, I was 22, I needed a car to get places. It was the biggest purchase I had made up to that point. And it's the car I still own. That was the place where my interest rate was cheapest for my car loan. And so your credit union can offer a lot of really good perks, especially on things like loans. So mortgages, car loans, personal loans, et cetera. And you get hopefully that in-person kind of touchy feely experience.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Credit unions are also owned by the community. They're not owned by a massive conglomerate. They're owned by people in the community. Now, you may be asking, Tori, why do you have an in-person bank or an in-person credit union if you are the champion of high-yield savings accounts? Well, actually for a very similar reason, as I think Erica's brother mentioned,
Starting point is 00:17:36 which is I actually need a physical location to go deposit cash. So for him, as a tipped worker, this is a scenario where I would recommend having some sort of in-person financial institution, probably actually a credit union in this case, because the perks are better. Because you need to get the money. You need to be able to put the money into an ATM, right? The thing with high yield savings accounts, you can do it. It's just harder. It's way harder to try to like deposit cash than it is depositing a check. The reason I need a physical location in addition to my high-yield savings account is because I don't use a debit card. I have a debit card because the high-yield savings account I recommend comes with a debit card, but I do not use
Starting point is 00:18:19 it. And so if I need to get out cash, especially if I'm about to go on a trip and I need a certain amount of cash for emergencies or because I know I'm going to be in a place that I want to get a taco and it's at a taco truck and they're only going to take cash, I need to go to a brick and mortar location to do that because it's a lot harder for me to go to the ATM to get the money out of the high yield savings account, et cetera. But it's also for me as a business owner, I sometimes need to go to a physical location to get checks or to deposit bigger invoices, right? There's reasons to have an in-person account. And it sounds like for Erica's brother, that reason's very valid.
Starting point is 00:18:55 However, your day-to-day banking, like the money that's coming in and the money that's coming out, right? A checking account, especially if you know you're going to need some cash, great to have at an in-person institution. I would recommend a credit union in this regard. However, for your savings, do not use a credit union. Do not use a regular brick and mortar bank, a US bank, a Wells Fargo. Do not use those kinds of accounts for your larger savings
Starting point is 00:19:22 because they're gonna offer you nothing. They're offering you scraps in interest and that money can be better used elsewhere. So I have a little bit of savings at a physical location in case of emergencies. I have a checking account at a physical location in case I need the money. But also you can have your money at like a chase
Starting point is 00:19:40 or something like that, right? It doesn't have to be your local bank. But I would say a credit union is the best option if you're looking for something brick and mortar, and then your money that's like really working harder for you, right? Your emergency fund, your bigger savings, et cetera, that should be on an online bank. That was a great question, Erica. Let's take our next question. This one is about credit cards and getting a better relationship with them. Hi, Tori. I love everything that you do. I think you're a rock star. My name is Dani, and I'm from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Recently, my dad did the nicest thing he's literally ever
Starting point is 00:20:18 done for me and transferred $12,000 of my credit card debt to him so that I can start paying him back and not have to pay interest. Truly, this is the nicest thing he's ever done for me. He doesn't do that many nice things. Anyway, so that's a huge win, and it skyrocketed my credit score up to like 758, I think. The last time I checked checked which is in the excellent Tier yeah, so my question is now that I'm able to use my credit card
Starting point is 00:20:52 beneficially and responsibly Do I open another? Like I have a discover card right that was from my own That was the last one do I open another one or do I wait for my credit to raise a little bit more because I don't want to open another credit card account and then have my credit score go back down to below excellent or should I just do it because it's going to be a temporary dip anyway. Thank you so much. Love you. Bye. I'm cracking up at Danny going, he doesn't do a lot of nice things for me.
Starting point is 00:21:27 That's the one that had me. Okay, Danny. So love that we've found a workaround. I honestly don't know if I would have recommended it. It's always a little weird when you take out a loan from somebody you love because it just gets to be potentially emotionally dicey. But we're here now. And I love that at least it's saving you the credit card interest. If you don't have a dad in your life who's going to do this, personal loans are potentially a good solution. We have the one we recommend at herfirsthundredk.com. But this is a nice way to consolidate your debt so that it feels more manageable. Okay, Danny, your question.
Starting point is 00:22:03 This is a nice way to consolidate your debt so that it feels more manageable. Okay, Danny, your question. I'm going to answer generally and then I'm going to answer specifically to you. When we're talking about opening a credit card generally, it is a pro, assuming you're going to use it positively, even if your credit score takes a little bit of a dip. That's to be expected. That's totally normal. That's not something to be alarmed by and to prevent you from getting a credit card.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Because credit cards build your credit, they offer you points, they offer you perks, they offer you additional insurance, right? Credit cards, when used responsibly, are incredible tools and they will ultimately typically build your credit should you use them responsibly, even if you do take a little bit of a dip when you open the credit card.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Now, Danny, in your particular case, use them responsibly, even if you do take a little bit of a dip when you open the credit card. Now, Dani, in your particular case, I need you to give yourself a little bit more time. It sounds a bit as if you went through a really bad breakup and now you're like, I'm ready to date again. And I'm like, slow down. I don't know if you are. Have we actually looked at the habits or the financial trauma that influenced your credit card debt, right? Have we excavated the reasons we went into credit card debt in the first place?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Have we really understood why we had a negative relationship with credit cards and why we now think we could have a good one? You know yourself better than I do, right? I listened to a minute, 15 second voicemail from you. You know yourself better than I do, right? I listened to a minute, 15 second voicemail from you. You know yourself better. But it does feel a little bit like, hey, I'm gonna be back on the dating apps right after a breakup, and I have not sat in processing that breakup, right?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Like we need to understand what is the relationship you had with credit cards in the first place, and how do we prevent those sort of bad habits We need to understand what is the relationship you had with credit cards in the first place, and how do we prevent those sort of bad habits or that financial trauma from influencing our relationship with credit cards the second time around. If you've done that work, great. Might be time to get another credit card.
Starting point is 00:23:58 If you haven't done that work, please do that first. Get some good financial habits under your belt, and then we can think about opening up a new credit card. But I don't want you to not have determined why the slippery slope was so slippery before you say, yeah, I'm going to get back out there. So hopefully that's helpful. When we come back, we are diving into your investing questions. We appreciate your support of our sponsors. They allow us to bring you this show completely free. We'll see you back here soon.
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Starting point is 00:26:35 Go to rocketmoney.com slash ffpod today. That's rocketmoney.com slash ffpod. Rocketmoney.com slash ffpod. Welcome back to the show Financial Feminist. Let's dive into our first question after the break. Hey, Tori. I just had a question about investing right now with the current administration that is running things. I've heard rumors about them wanting to get rid of the FDIC.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Elon is all up in the Treasury Department. I just want to know if we should still be investing in the stock market right now because of potential losses within the stock market, it crashing, having another Black Tuesday, or should I be putting my money into a high-yield savings account? I just really want to know what steps I should be taking to have my money available to me
Starting point is 00:27:30 in case shit should go crazy. I understand that investing is really, really important and for these next four years, I really want to keep my money close to me. I still want it to build though, so I just want the best kind of advice right now for what I should be doing. So this question from Bella actually came to us about two months ago and it's hard to believe that it's both still relevant and also so much has changed. I'm going to give a very brief answer because we literally have done now two episodes that are like hour long, at least a half hour long about this.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Should I keep investing? What do I have to do to protect myself during a recession, during a stark market crash, during a Trump, Elon love fest? Okay. So I will link both of those episodes down below. Please go listen to them. We put so much time and energy into those episodes. They're really, really jam packed.
Starting point is 00:28:21 They're really valuable, but I'm going to give you two tips. One, I'm still investing. We're playing the investing game for the longterm. It's really important that you don't let the news determine your financial future. The last thing I want is for you to sabotage your own retirement because Trump's being Trump. At the end of the day, the stock market goes up and down. That's what happens. We expect that and it can be really scary.
Starting point is 00:28:47 But again, we talk more in these episodes about how to navigate not just the finances of it all and the numbers in the stock market, ups and downs, but also your own emotions. The second thing is that your emergency fund is crucial right now. It is crucial on any given Tuesday, but it is especially crucial right now. And I'm giving advice that I've never really given before, which should tell you the urgency of it, which is that if you don't have an emergency fund, if you do not have a full three-month of living expenses emergency fund, I actually need you to stop your discretionary spending for a period of time, right? You're going to get it back, but I need you to stop spending money on things that are not necessities
Starting point is 00:29:29 so that you can stock your emergency fund. Because layoffs feel inevitable at this point. There's going to be a lot of layoffs. We are, as we're recording this, April 23rd, right? The stock market's continuing to just be really volatile. There is continued, really urgent talks of a recession. I need you to protect yourself right now. I need you to take this shit fucking seriously. And if that means temporarily cutting some stuff so that you can feel better protected
Starting point is 00:30:02 financially, we need you to do that. And if you already have that three month emergency fund, might not be a bad time to increase it, increase it to four, increase it to five. And again, I know I sound like a broken record. Take a shot. Absolutely. But if you do not have an emergency fund in the high yield savings account, right, if you don't have a high yield savings account, there's no excuses anymore. Like I need you to have one of these accounts because they're going to earn you more in interest. It's like an additional income
Starting point is 00:30:30 without you having to do a goddamn thing. So please, if you do not have that emergency fund, we are temporarily pausing our discretionary spending and we're putting money into that emergency fund in that high yield savings account. All right, let's take this next question from Jenna. Hi, Tori, my name is Jenna and I've been listening to your podcasts. I love them. I am so glad that you're out there. I am on the older side of about,
Starting point is 00:31:02 I'm about ready to retire in about eight years. And I have some money saved up and it's in the market. I haven't done it. It was actually a lot of inheritance that I got about four years ago, but it's all very unorganized. I feel very disempowered and I need to I need to take my power around it. I am going to probably retire in about eight years. And I was wondering if your stock market school would be a good fit for me. And I was looking at there was a price mentioned
Starting point is 00:31:36 on the podcast for $5.97. But when I went to push on to the school itself, it went up to like $900. So I didn't know if I was missing something there or if that price is no longer available, but I'm very interested and would love your input. Thanks so much. I look forward to hearing from you. Hi, Jenna. For any older listeners, we welcome you. I know I'm a little bit younger. I know I typically talk to folks who are like 20s, 30s, 40s,
Starting point is 00:32:05 but if you are older than that, you are so welcome here. And I hope you know that. Jenna, thank you for thinking of Stock Market School. We built it exactly for you. So yes, it's a perfect, perfect program for you. It is one of our two signature programs. It is the reason actually that I just rang the opening bell at the NASDAQ
Starting point is 00:32:20 is that we have at this point now, nearly a hundred million dollars invested in stock market school by our community members and 80% of the women who have joined who have contributed to investing that hundred million dollars have never invested before. So a lot of places are just gonna teach you how to invest, a lot of places are the technology to actually invest right like a Fidelity or a Charles Schwab or a Vanguard, we do both.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It's not just courses and master classes and live coaching with me. We literally built an app. We built the investing technology to couple with that. So the price has increased since a year or two ago because we've made the program even more robust. I do monthly live coaching. It's one of two places where I do life coaching.
Starting point is 00:33:06 We have exclusive master classes. We have, again, that technology to invest. We're constantly making updates to it. So right now, it's fully priced. The retail price is $9.94. And this is a yearly subscription. Again, a lot of other places, and I know we're going to talk about Edward Jones in a second,
Starting point is 00:33:22 are going to charge you 3% of your portfolio, which adds up to thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars, every single year. Also, most financial advisors will charge you $200 to $400 per hour. So if you meet with them for five hours, you can do the math on how much that might cost. For us at stock market school, we're giving you 20 plus hours of me
Starting point is 00:33:45 and my team's time every single month. And I want to make this a really easy yes for you, Jenna, and for everybody who's listening, who wants to learn how to get started investing, who wants to learn in a way that doesn't fear monger, that doesn't panic you, that gives you really good information, and where you learn straight from me
Starting point is 00:34:04 and learn what I'm investing in and learn the tips and tricks. So we are giving anybody listening to this podcast episode, 50% off that annual subscription. So it is now less than $500 a year. It's at $497. You can use code podcast to sign up. So stock market school, you can get more information, testimonials, all of that at herfirsthundredk.com slash invest. And then you'll use code podcast for 50% off. We will also link it down in the show notes. So I want to give you even better price than that $597 for you to be able to
Starting point is 00:34:38 sign up, support a woman-owned business, but also to actually take your financial education seriously and get some really, really good advice about how to invest step by step. So I would love to see you, Jenna, there and anybody else who might be listening. Let's take our next question, all about investing in your 401k, if you're a green card holder.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Hi Tori, love the podcast, love the book. I am obviously not an American. There's a lot of green card holders and people right now in very precarious situations in terms of their future in the US. I don't need to explain why that is. And I'm just kind of getting to grips with my financial situation. I'm wondering if it's worth still paying into a 401k and maybe divert that money to
Starting point is 00:35:22 investment instead. Stephanie, I'm not going to say who it is, but somebody very close to me in my life is also a green card holder and is from the UK and is doing a lot of what it sounds like you and all other green card holders are doing, which is playing safe right now because you're worried about Trump deporting you. And I do not blame you in the slightest. I was talking with this particular individual in my life about the protests that were happening
Starting point is 00:35:50 and if they were planning on attending. And he was like, I kind of have to just keep my head down right now because I don't want to give Trump a reason to deport me. So first, I just want to acknowledge any stress you're feeling. It's so real. Second, we're going to keep investing in our 401k, especially if you plan on being here in the United States for a while. Like if this is not something you're doing just for like a year or two, but like, you've created a life here, maybe your family's here, maybe
Starting point is 00:36:19 you plan on staying here for, you know, a decade more. Yep, we're going to invest in your 401k. Most definitely. We want to be able to get those tax breaks. We want to take advantage of any sort of tax breaks we are offered. And not a bad idea to continue investing in your 401k, even if you are a green card holder. So hopefully that answers your question. When we come back from break, I'm answering more investing questions from our voicemail inbox, and we're going to dig into your Instagram DMs straight to our inbox. We'll talk to you soon. A lot of people don't know that I have a whole team behind me at Her First 100K. It's not just the podcast. We have our programs. We have our general community. We have marketing.
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Starting point is 00:39:23 I love your podcast. I listen to it all the time and I send it to people all the time. But there's one thing on it that always brings me pause. You hate Edward Jones. And I am learning about money. I am trying to become a financial feminist, but my grandmother had all her money with Edward Jones and she trusted her financial advisor with her life. Like when she was dying and we needed to get her to do something and she had dementia, we were like, your financial advisor said so.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And she was like, okay, then I'll do it. Like it could be about anything. So I grew up learning to trust Edward Jones. And my grandmother died, and the money she left us is all with Edward Jones. I don't feel like I have the capacity to invest by myself. I feel like they're doing a decent enough job with it. I'm 25. I'm just leaving my money with them. But I keep hearing you say how much you hate them and I'm stressed because I feel like I also trust them since my grandmother trusts them, but also I don't really know anything.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Could they be doing a good job? Could they be what I need right now? And then in the future, I do something else. I just want to hear a little bit more about it since we have a family connection with them, it feels like. But maybe it's fake. I don't know. Any advice would be appreciated.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Thanks so much. Oh, I love this question. Your grandma sounds like a hoot. Also that she trusts the financial advisor so much that it's like, you need to take your medicine. No, I don't want to take my medicine. Well, your financial advisor told you to take your medicine.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Okay, I'll take it. Like the choke hold your financial advisor had on your grandma. Okay, first, the fact that you're investing at all is a win, okay? Even if it's with Edward Jones. So I don't want you feeling more like panic or shame from me of worrying you're doing something wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:09 The fact that you're 25 and investing at all is great. So don't stress about that, okay? The fact that you're doing it, even if it's not with an institution I love, is better than you not doing it at all. Amazing, okay? Period, full stop. Indent new paragraph. However, here's the deal
Starting point is 00:41:28 with Edward Jones. Okay? Well, I've talked about this on the show before. They are charging you an exorbitant amount of fees. And I know you're thinking, I don't have that much money. What is a couple percentage points and fees in order for them to just handle it for me. God, okay, I'm trying to figure it out. You can keep this, that's fine. I'm like, I'm trying to give you the not full rant Tory, but like enough rant Tory. We've talked about, again, I've said this almost word for word before,
Starting point is 00:41:56 but Edward Jones charges not even reasonable fees, okay? They're like charging you an account open fee, an account closed fee, a trading fee. Let's talk about that. So every time they invest, every single time they invest for you. So they could be investing for you like every two weeks, right? If you give them money every time you get paid. They are charging you a fee every time to do that.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Plus their normal like management fee. That's a lot in fees. And I've proven time and time again that these fees are not actually beneficial. So if we were paying these fees, but they got you something, sure, maybe I can make a case for it, but they don't. I know you're scared to invest yourself. I know people listening are scared to invest for themselves. That's why we created Stock Market School. And yes, I'm gonna shamelessly plug my own thing because frankly, I think it's way better. And I'm not charging you a fee. I'm charging you this one annual subscription, not just for the investing, but for everything else,
Starting point is 00:42:50 for me hopping on coaching and my time and my expertise for all of my team's time to do master classes and all of the incredible learnings about retirement accounts and about how to play catch up if you feel financially behind and explaining to you what an index fund is. We're not charging you a fee for every single time you invest. We don't charge you that fee. We're not charging you a management fee to just keep your account open.
Starting point is 00:43:14 We don't charge you any of that because it's bullshit. I want your hard earned money to go to you actually bettering your financial life, right? I want your hard earned money going to your investments. That's what it's there for, rather than going to bullshit fees. Now, the personal connection you feel with your Edward Jones person. I actually love that. I think that's so great. I love that your grandma had a really good relationship with her financial advisor. If things aren't working for you though, you're allowed to break up with your financial advisor. We've also talked about this on the show before. Kristen, I'll have you link the
Starting point is 00:43:48 episode where we literally walk you through the script of breaking up with your financial advisor. But you can just say, hey Steve, thank you for all of the incredible work you did with my grandma. She, you know, cared about this relationship so much and I so appreciate all of the time and the energy you spent with her. I am looking to make some different investing decisions and I'm looking to move away from Edward Jones. Thank you again for all of your contribution.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Please let me know how I can close my account and move it to wherever you want to move it to. That's how you can do it. I think a lot of women, whether it's this situation or a romantic relationship or a job, they feel like I owe them something. Like they were nice to me or they were nice to somebody I cared about. And even if it's not working for me anymore
Starting point is 00:44:39 or I get new information, I have to stay loyal to them. Kristen said this even before we hopped on. This was not me. This was Kristen, podcast producer, who was like, you are one of tons of people that they work with. Now, it doesn't mean that, you know, everybody's an asshole. I'm not saying that, but like you are a number to them.
Starting point is 00:45:00 They are a multi, multi billion dollar corporation dollar corporation. And you leaving is okay. You're allowed to leave, especially if you have new information. And if you stay with Edward Jones, I don't love it, but do not stay there longer than a couple of years, okay? If you truly do not feel like you can manage this, which by the way you can,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I've built an entire platform that helps you do this and has thousands and thousands of members and helped me ring the Nasdaq bell like it's proven to work. But if you can't get over that hump right now, okay, just don't stay with them long term. Because as you build your wealth, that 3% fee plus a management fee plus all of that is going to get really expensive. I'm going to take two rapid fire questions from your Instagram DMs. You can at us on Financial Feminist Podcasts, that's the easiest way to get in touch,
Starting point is 00:45:51 and we would love to take your questions. Okay, two quick questions from Instagram. One, should I pay off my car loan faster or save money? You always wanna save an emergency fund first, always. But if you're wondering whether I should invest or pay off debt, you wanna think about the 7% rule. I talk about this a lot in my book. 7% is the magical number because 7% is the average return we can expect in the stock market. So if your debt is more than 7% interest, you're going to work to pay down that debt faster. If it's under 7%, you actually could be earning more
Starting point is 00:46:19 money by investing. So you're going to work to invest and prioritize that over paying off that loan faster. We have this in more detail in my free investing workshop, herfirsthundredk.com slash secrets. Second question, I just got my first credit card. What's the best way for me to start off so I'm successful with using it? Great question. One, make sure that you are not spending beyond your means.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Use your credit card like your debit card. Two, make sure you're making on time in full payments. So you're not waiting until after the due date. You're not again, putting money on a card that you can't actually afford to pay off. You want to make sure you're making on time in full payments. And last but not least, get to know your credit card. Get to know what sort of perks and benefits there are. Many sorts of credit cards can save you hundreds, if not thousands of dollars a year on things that you're already buying,
Starting point is 00:47:08 whether it's subscriptions that you can get for free, DoorDash Plus or Disney Plus. You can also typically get car insurance through your credit cards or travelers insurance. So I don't pay for additional car insurance when I'm renting a car somewhere. So get to know your credit card intimately, know what's there, know what perks and benefits it's going to offer you that can save you money long term. These are so many great questions,
Starting point is 00:47:33 financial feminists. And again, if these questions spark something in you, we have episodes about every single topic we discussed today that give you more detail, that give you more information. I also have a book that has been read by more than 250,000 people called Financial Feminist. If you're listening on Spotify to this podcast right now, you can get the audiobook read by me for free if you have Spotify premium. So go ahead and search Financial Feminist.
Starting point is 00:47:57 You can also see other episodes, but you can see the book. You can listen to that book just like you're listening to the podcast. And Stock Market School was the big kind of shameless plug I made today. If you're interested in joining or you're interested in just getting more information, you can go to herfirsthundredk.com slash invest and use code podcast for 50% off your annual subscription. Thank you for being here. Thank you for supporting feminist media. Thank you for being financial feminists and we'll see you back here soon.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Thank you for listening to Financial Feminist, a Her First 100K podcast. For more information about Financial Feminist, Her First 100K, our guests and episode show notes, visit financialfeministpodcast.com. If you're confused about your personal finances and you're wondering where to start, go to herfirst100undredk.com slash quiz for a free, personalized money plan. Financial Feminist is hosted by me, Tori Dunlap. Produced by Kristen Fields and Tamesha Grant. Research by Sarah Shortino. Audio and video engineering by Alyssa Midcalf.
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