Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley - 70 Missions, 15 Countries, Saved 7,000 Children — The Power of Listening | Paul Hutchinson

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

I help founders & executives generating more than $1M in revenue find their Easy Mode. Start here: https://ryanhanley.com/subscribeWatch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/ryanmhanleyPaul Hutchinson led 70+ undercover child rescue missions in 15 countries and was the primary investor and executive producer of the Sound of Freedom movie. His most dangerous weapon wasn't combat training — it was learning to listen with his heart.Connect with Paul Hutchinson✅ Liberating Humanity: https://liberatinghumanity.com✅ Child Liberation Foundation: https://childliberation.org✅ Sound of Freedom Book: https://amzn.to/4cgMIKI✅ Paul on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/paulhutchinsonMore about this episodeThis one hits different. Paul Hutchinson has lived a life most people can't imagine — building a billion-dollar investment fund, producing the most talked-about movie of 2023, and leading black-ops rescue missions that saved more than 7,000 children from trafficking networks across the globe.But the conversation that unfolded wasn't what I expected. We got into the real stuff — the cell phone debate every parent is having right now, what sextortion actually looks like (and why 12-year-old boys are the primary target), and why over-sheltering your kids might be making them a softer target. Paul lays out exactly what parents can do today to protect their children without becoming helicopter parents.Then the episode takes a turn. Paul shares how meditation and divine intuition became his primary operating tool in the field — from taking down the largest child trafficking ring in the Caribbean to a cold-read operation in Ecuador that shouldn't have worked but did. We go deep on the pineal gland, the science of awareness, and why learning to listen with your heart might be the most important skill you never develop. Whether you're a parent, a leader, or someone who feels like their awareness has been shrinking — this episode is the unlock.Powerful Quotes"95% of the situations where somebody has to use hard skills to fight their way out could have been avoided if they were just paying attention.""We're not going to fix trafficking by pulling children out of hell forever. We fix it by pulling the hell out of the adults.""Faith isn't going to church and asking God to fix things you don't believe will be fixed. Faith is the unwavering conviction that what you want to have happen will happen."I help founders & executives generating more than $1M in revenue find their Easy Mode. Start here: https://ryanhanley.com/subscribeWatch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/ryanmhanleyThis show is part of the Unplugged Studios Network — the infrastructure layer for serious creators. 👉 Learn more at https://unpluggedstudios.fm.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

I led more than 70 undercover child rescue missions in 15 countries. The most valuable skills that we learned were not our hard skills, wasn't our combat skills, wasn't Krav Maga hand-to-hary, wasn't any of those things. It was situational awareness. And 95% of the situations where somebody has to move to hard skills to be able to fight their way out of something, 95% of those could have been avoided if you were just paying attention. Just being present. We've never interviewed someone who's gone from boardroom to black ops to botanical healing

retreats before. This guy's going to be amazing. It was funny how he like puts the alliteration in there and kind of frames your journey. And I just find like, I don't know, I know. I know part of me is like this AI stuff. I feel like I should be fighting it. You know what I mean? Like it should be like gold guns and land and I should be like building my portrait.

you know, in case the machines come. And then other part of me is just so fascinated by, I'm fascinated by what it can do. The way it's changing, I believe, how we think about things, if we're using it properly. And how easy it is to develop a relationship with these things, right? Like, I find myself, even though I know what they are,

I'm not psychotic building, you know, I'm not trying to build an AI girlfriend for myself or anything. I find myself referring to it as if it was a human. And you're talking to it by name. And it's just a very... I named mine kitty. I had my personal assistant for more than a decade as I was building

bridge investment group was her name was Kitty. And I mean, she could think faster than I could, she could type faster than I could think. And so my chat, I just told her kitty. because she literally can type faster than I can think. She's on it and she knows me really well because of the fact that I bounce a lot off of her. And so, you know, she when I asked her, you know, a random question about a tree, she's like, oh, well, based on the fact that you're in this area outside of Medell in Colombia and this climate and everything else, chances are this is, you know, needs to have more water or whatever.

I mean, it's crazy because she knows all this stuff already. And so, yeah, it's, it's, I think we're, we're moving into an age that is incredible. That, hold on two seconds. Let me grab this just for, for your audience. But I was, I was, I was working just today. I'm fine-tuning a few chapters in my, in my book, Your Infinite Welts. And the chapter I was working on today was called from barter to Bitcoin, the currency of trust. And I follow the principle of trust all the way from way back in the time when they were bartering all the way till they use chocolate, cacao beans and then gold, silver, etc, etc.

All the way through to where we are today. it's all based on that that same principle of integrity, of trust, of, you know, can I trust that the product you're given me is of the value that I'm handing you? Can I trust that the gold that you're giving me hasn't been fabricated? So really it's trust that builds fortunes, that builds wealth. And we're living in a digital age that if we can build it correctly, we can create literally infinite wealth for everyone. So that's a string that I want to pull.

I'm going to hit you with this comment, and then I want to pull that string a little more. I have found, in like the way that I view the world, it seems like there are some fairly clear new technologies that if we actually cared about fairness in the system, at least consistency, fairness in so much as we understand what's going on and we're playing by mostly the same rules. Blockchain, the integration of AI with blockchain,

like there are technologies that have been created, whether, you know, taking Bitcoin as a, you know, monetary unit or store value out of the equation, just the simple technology of blockchain and the ability to add layers of trust that were not possible before, yet seemingly we're not moving there fast enough, which, or as fast as I would think we would,

if fairness and trust were the actual goals makes me believe that there are a lot of actors looking at this technology going, yeah, no, we kind of like how we can play all these games right now and kind of hide things and move things, because as much as this technology is scary and is creating some chaos, if you kind of look past the short term, the long term seems like more trust, the ability to be more transparent, more authentic in our transactions with each other. Is that kind of way it's shaken out for you or what might I be missing there? Yeah, absolutely. Well, and you have to understand that in everything, there are good actors and bad actors.

You know, the truth is this. You know, your audience might know of me from the suit, Sound of Freedom movie, that I was the primary investor, executive producer and, you know, my passion to fight child trafficking. The truth is, we have the technology today to take down most of the bad actors in the child trafficking space. I mean, they're listening to our cell phones, whether we give us. them permission or not. They have the information right now. The real question is, is why are they not taking down these networks? And the truth is, there is benefit in having dirt on people. There are systems of control throughout the, in fact, the truth is with the Epstein situation,

Epstein never operated on his own. He was absolutely intelligence asset that was used for the purpose of blackmail. And it happens everywhere. The most valuable piece, of information that the FBI got from the P. Diddy case wasn't information that would put P. Diddy away. It was grabbing his massive amounts of videos and audio information that he had on everybody, on all of these actors, on all of these celebrities that were there at his freak off parties. Why? So that they could use it for control, for blackmail. So sadly, yes, this massive amount of information that we're putting out there online is making it so that, hey, we can connect to grandma on a FaceTime video easier, or, you know, our cousins can see what we're doing with our kids

at Disneyland. It's super fun. But on the other end of the spectrum, there's nefarious actors who are using that information for control. And the truth is as well, you know, the one of the biggest dangers, we can go in all of this stuff in our, in our conversation. But one of the biggest dangers for our children is not lurking behind a black alley behind a convenience store. The biggest dangers for our children is sitting in their backpack, in their back pocket. It's the technology that they keep with them and that the fact that predators from around the world can access your children through that medium if we don't do the right things to keep them safe. And so, you know, it's a beautiful age of expansion that we can use for just infinite progression in so many areas. And I talk about. And I talk,

about that a lot in the Infinite Wealth book, but the truth is, if used incorrectly, it can create even a more dangerous world than we were in four. Let's just roll this into the show because I want to ask you about the kids with cell phones. Because I have two kids, 12 and 10. This has been a debate in our house forever. When my older son turned 12, we ended up getting him a phone. We got his, unfortunately, got his younger brother phone as well. It wasn't my first choice, but I lost that battle. And I struggle with this. Like most parents, I struggle with this a lot. And we'd spend a lot of time talking to them. I spent a lot of time monitoring. You know, I've set up all the stuff. But, you know,

they still find ways to find crazy stuff and watch it, right? And I guess, you know, in the debate that happens a lot of times at a basketball game or, you know, outside the fence at a baseball game among parents is there is a, it is nice to be able to get a hold of your kids when you need them, to know where they are when they need them. But I think everyone is also, I shouldn't say it that way. People are, have all different versions of what that means for bad actors, right? Can they actually access that information or is that just kind of fear tactics?

you know, if I let them have the teen account on Instagram, am I melting their brain, am I not? Can they hack into, you know, the algorithm and start, you know, feeding my kids things they shouldn't see? You know, having spent time, and I know that the traffickers use these tools and stuff, like where should parents in everyday America who are toying with this very problem right now?

There are people listening to this parents who are like, I'm having this debate right now. what are some of the, like, what are the realities of how technology and phones can be used, not just from like a, you know, like a narrative standpoint, but actually, you know, damage to the kids. Like someone can, you know, either corrupt them or traffic them or kidnap them, etc. Like, where is that line and what can they be doing to protect themselves with this type of technology? Hold on? No, you're fine.

Okay. Okay. Can you hear me? You're great. That was super crazy. My audio just went out. So, okay, we're recording again. Yeah. A long question short, there are parents listening to this who are having the very debate around

cell phones right now. Outside of just the doom scrolling TikTok is not good for your brain. Take, take that kind of. What are the, how do they protect their kids and what are the real, like, real dangers to having that phone in your hand that, like, could cause your kid physical harm or an abduction or something of that nature? Well, let me put it this way. Two things.

First of all, more than 15, almost 20 years ago, I was in a course. It was FBI Citizens Academy training. We had a CIA agent come in that was talking about technology. And he started out the presentation by saying, guys, by the time we're done with this class, you're going to take away the cell phones from your kids. I'm going to tell you what these guys are doing.

However, it's also important to understand that children born today will spend one third of their life sleeping on their mattress and one third of their life in front of a screen. That's just how it is. And you cannot remove them from that environment and have them grow up to be normal in this space. And so I've always, I've always lived by the saying, teach them correct principles, and have them govern themselves, right? There's value in empowering them. And we do this within the Child Liberation Foundation. We have safe houses all over. We have orphanages that we work with and a lot of places where we go in where there are

at-risk children who haven't been trafficked yet or even ones that have. And we go in and teach them. We teach them self-defense skills. We teach them how to say no. We teach them what their privates are. I mean, how many five-year-olds have had a conversation with their parents about where their privates are and what's not okay to show and touch. Very few. The challenge is is that even with men, one in every five men at some time in our lives have been a victim of sexual abuse. Most of them,

whereas children, a large percentage of them was under the age of 10 years old in their own homes. And so if we're going to protect our children, giving them the tools to be able to navigate this world on their own is incredibly important. In fact, you know, people will leave the movie sound of freedom. And they'll say, oh, I want to, I want to do something. I want to help. I want to go rest you kids. So, you know, the worst thing you can do is go try to do undercover work in Mexico. You're going to get shot.

You're probably going to get arrested if you're not shot. And I know I did 20 plus missions in Mexico on my operations. The best thing you can do is go home and hug your children. People are like, well, how does hug in my children? You know, how does that fix trafficking? And I talk about that also in the Sound of Freedom book that's out right now on Amazon, but I go through in detail things that parents can do to keep their kids safe. And yes, there are dangerous things on their cell phones today.

If you're going to have your kids have access to social media, which I allowed my kids to do so, make sure that they understand the dangers of posting your schedule, posting, you know, we're at this event and doing it in lifetime, or posting with any pictures that have the geotagging attached to it so you can see where they are. And more important than all of those, the entire world that doesn't need access to everything they're doing. Simply make the settings change so that the only people that see them and their activities are their friends.

Just make it a private account. Super simple. And then monitor who their friends are. And if you've got something that looks like it's not really a kid from their school or whatever and it could be a plant, See, with our, with our, one of the, the FBI has said that one of the most serious dangers for our children today is something called sextortion. In fact, the average age is actually a 12 to 14 year old boy who is being targeted by these predators. And what will happen is they, they will connect with them on a gaming platform.

And then from there on this gaming platform, they'll be chatting back and forth, gaming with, with your kid. And then they will convince them to make. move the conversation over to something private off that platform, something like WhatsApp or whatever or a signal. So now they move the conversation over and they say that they're a 12, 13 year old girl. They're not. It's a 45-year-old dude, right? And that girl sends a picture.

You need a relationship with your kids where they can comfortably come to you and say, Hey, Dad, I kind of screwed up. I was chatting with this girl on my gaming platform and we went and started talking privately and she sent me some pictures and I sent her some pictures and then she asked for videos and now she says she's going to send them all over the school unless I send her some money unless I meet at a certain place. There have been multiple cases of suicides of children who have been caught up in these kind of things. And beyond that, one of the operations I led in Mexico was in Cancun. And one of our perpetrators who is bringing children as young as seven years old,

was also identifying at-risk teenage kids that were traveling alone. He would scour through the internet and go on to like Instagram, Facebook, live, etc. And he would find ones that were posting that were tagging Cancun that they were at. And he would look and try to find out if they came from a broken home, if they were there traveling with their parents or just with the sister. And those are the ones that he would get and tell him, oh hey I'm a I'm a I'm a guide you can come on my boat and I'll take you and tour around you know no cost of you and he would bring these kids in take away their passports take away their phones give them drugs and then he got them

so yes these things do happen but the you know people think that oh you know how do I do I have to be a helicopter mom the majority of children that are taken that are traffic to other places don't come from healthy homes they come from runaways broken homes, a broken foster care program. So the more you can do to keep your home together, that the dangers for your kids aren't being taken down to Mexico. Dangers are their slumber parties and your family reunions. The 92% of the children who are sexually abused as children, it's familial. It's somebody that the family knows. So you need a relationship with the kids where they can come to you and say, hey, dad, I don't like it when you

tell me that I have to hug Uncle Harry because he touches me weird and he says that we need to have secrets that aren't you that we have to keep from you or I don't like this baby center. She says we should trust her more than you and she's now showing this pornography or I don't like this friend's house does her brother has taken pictures of us when we're changing. I mean, the list goes on. But that healthy relationship with your 10 year old, with your 12 year old where you're there 911, they can come to you with everything and you have those conversations at a young age. These are your private parts. This is not okay. If anybody ever asked to see them or touch them, then that's off limits. And if anybody says that this should be a secret outside of mom and dad, you need to come to us. That's a red flat. So I know there's a lot there, but it's important to know that being a helicopter dad, being a helicopter mom isn't going to fix it. They're going to rebel. Education is important in that healthy communication is so important. Yeah, it seems to me that the more we restrict the kids, the more we make their worlds small and can, you know, can't play outside, can't walk down the street to a friend's house.

You know, you got to text me every 15 minutes if you're not on my side. I mean, I've heard some crazy stories from people, you know, from, you know, because I interact with a ton of parents in the sports, right? Which is where, you know, I interact with all these parents. Some of the stories that I hear from parents who seemingly in every other regard is fairly, you know, fairly. put together regular people and then you hear how how paranoid and controlling they get with their kids and then you see those kids and they they tend to struggle the most in social situations they're the ones who can't you know can't communicate a thought to you without you know snatching eye contact from their parents real quick and and it almost seems like you can go too far the other

way you could be so protective that you you push that maybe not into the arms of someone but certainly they're going to start, well, if my mom has got me locked down or my dad's got me locked down so tightly, there must be something amazing here on the other side of this. And I get criticized sometimes because, like, to a certain extent went the other way. Like, it started as I just didn't want to listen to bad music. So I exposed my kids to Wu-Tang at seven. And but, you know, it led to, and as much as I'm, some people laugh at that, some people think I'm crazy.

it led to a lot of really honest discussions because what I said to them very early was, look, I want to listen to good music, I can't listen to Top 40, Teeny Bopper, trap, whatever this crap is that you guys listen to, I can't do it. So I'm going to teach you what good music is. There are forms of good music, in my opinion,

which do have curse words in them. So you're going to learn curse words very young. From eight, I told my older son, from eight years old, I said, look, you know what these are, around me in the right situation, which would be on a ball field or a basketball court, etc. If one of these words comes out of your mouth and it's improper context, we're good. If you say it in front of your teacher and you get detention,

I ain't coming to save your ass. Like, that's on you, I've got to learn. Now, what's happened is at 12 and 10, those words have no control over them, right? They're not trying to sneak that word into a conversation. They're not giggling at some of these things because, you know, in a very small extent, I'm not trying to coordinate this versus, you know, being trafficked or taken or something, but the idea is like, I feel like we don't expose our kids to enough today. They're not, they're not, we're so sheltered, you know, is that make them an

easier target because they're so sheltered for these types of things? Because they just haven't experienced walking into a grocery store and being like, that guy just seems weird to me. Like, I don't know what's going on with him, but he's got, he's off. Like, I don't want any part of him. I mean, you kind of learn from those scenarios, don't you? Absolutely. You know, and people when, when the sound of freedom first came out, I got a lot of interviews with people saying, hey, should I take my 14 year old? Should I take my 12 year old? Should I take my 10 year old?

And I said, yeah, we made it so that you can take your kids. Yes, it's a dark subject, but we're not showing anything that is, I mean, it's, it's, we were very tactful in how we filmed it all. But I said to all of them, I think that your kids need to see this. They need to know what's out there so that they can, they can armor themselves. They can prepare themselves. They don't have to live in fear, but it's important for them to understand

that there are people in this world who would do some very awful things to children. And so it's important to pay attention to that, so we don't live in fear, but we do live in a level of confidence. And so it's why I say this all the time on the show and some people don't like it, but it's what I believe.

You know, the biggest lie of postmodern feminism is that history was over. that somehow like we had evolved, you know, even though we just killed what, uh, 40 million people in World War II or whatever the number is. Um, and now all of a sudden, but just after that, hey, we're good. We're all evolved now. No more. We fixed our shit.

Yeah. It's like, no, like we're only 50, well, now we're what, 70-ish years removed, 75 years. Like, there are bad people in the world. And, you know, this is one of the things that I talk to my kids about when we're walking through the airport is I'll be like, look, like, most of these people are perfectly fine going out their business and can give two shits about you. However, there are a few people in this crowd, just law of pure numbers, that are bad people. And why I tell you to walk with your head up, why I tell you to just be scanning, not in a weird way, but just know who's around you. You know,

I can try to teach them some of these basic things. It's because, like, guys, there are bad people. Like there are people that would do harm for the fun of it because they're psychotic. Their brain is broken. They have some sort of mental disease because it was done to them and they just don't know how to. I mean, there's all these reasons and I'm not a psychologist. But, you know, I feel like, but by pretending like those people don't live near us or, you know, you don't have anything to worry about or, you know, you're too young to understand this concept. That seems like a lie that we're trying to tell ourselves as adults and is not actually reality. Absolutely, absolutely.

And they did some studies with some felons who had committed some atrocities against other people. And they showed them just a video, just the same video of just certain people walking across the street in the mall and whatever else. And they asked them, who would you target as your next victim? And what's crazy is almost every single one of them were identifying the same people by how they walked, how distracted they were. You know, they've got their headphones on, they've got their phone here, they're, they're alone, they look, they've got low self-esteem, all of these things. You teach your kids like what you have. Teach them to walk with their head up, to pay attention to what's going on, to be there with not alone, but if they are alone, to walk a little bit faster and walk with confidence, you are, you are making. it so you are not a soft target.

This is for adults, too. This isn't just for kids. I led more than 70 undercover child rescue missions in 15 countries. And the most valuable skills that we learned were not our hard skills. Wasn't our combat skills. Wasn't Kravmaga hand-to-hanging. It wasn't any of those things. It was situational awareness.

One of my trainers was named Steve Tarani. He was one of the top edged weapons trainers in the world, one of the top infrovibis weapons trainers, and one of the top awareness trainers. He trains the CIA, the FBI Secret Service on situational awareness. And 95% of the situations where somebody has to move to hard skills to be able to fight their way out of something, 95% of those could have been avoided.

if you were just paying attention, just being present. And it's more than just your conscious mind. And this is important. You touched on this earlier. You know, hey, if something doesn't feel right, listen to it. There is a book that I had our operators read called The Gift of Fear. And in the Gift of Fear, he talks about how our conscious mind is just this thin sliver. As we're walking in, you're focused on what you're going to be doing.

in the store, et cetera. Your subconscious mind gathers all of the information everywhere that you see. Your subconscious mind literally knows how many steps you took today. Your subconscious mind knows how many steps you took in the last 10 years combined. Knows how many red lights you've stopped at. Your subconscious mind knows that in the peripheral of your vision, knows that as you were walking into a store, there was a guy with a super heavy coat on that was too heavy for the heat of the day, et cetera, that looked kind of weird. but your conscious mind didn't even see it. And so there's so much information that's already there that you'll be able to be

sensitive to if you listen. Now, I have another book that I'm almost done with called Are You Listening with My Hand on My Heart? Not Are You Listening Here on My Ear, but Are You Listening Here at My Heart? And I talk about how beyond just our conscious and subconscious, beyond all of that, we are literally energetically connected with everyone, everything, everywhere and we have a divine connection to something so much farther beyond where we are. I talk about how every one of the undercover missions, we weren't following logic and protocol.

We were literally being led as to where these children were, what we needed to do to keep our team safe, et cetera. And so when you learn how to tune in to that voice of truth and listen to it, learn how to trust it, it will keep you safe, it will guide. you in areas that you never thought possible, but it's important to learn how to listen. So those are all a bunch of things all tied in together, but I'm bringing in some of the things that you talked about in having your kids listen into their intuitions

and paying attention to what's going on. Can we dive a little deeper into this idea of kind of your resonance, your awareness? I think this is incredibly powerful. And I'll give me a very trite, anecdote to lead into this this question. I had a guest on a few shows ago, a few weeks ago, geez, it was probably a few months ago, I can't remember.

And very well respected guy in the fitness space. And I, you know, I just asked him like, what's one, what's one thing that someone wouldn't expect you to recommend, but you actually think has helped you with your fitness and, you know, your energy and all that kind of stuff? And he said, and take this for what it is, but he said, I put PMF blocking stickers on all my electronic devices. And he uses body well.

There's other brands. It doesn't really matter. That's what he recommended. Okay. So being one to always be willing to test, right? I do all my research. Research comes back. Basically, there's no corresponding studies, you know, blah, blah, blah.

You know, we can't test it. There's been individual results, but nothing peer reviewed. And, you know, essentially at the end of the day, the long and short, as most resources would tell you this is nonsense. Okay, all fair, don't care. Try it anyways. It's a couple hundred bucks. Put them on all my devices.

And I can tell you it's been three weeks now. I feel a little more focused. I feel less frazzled during the day. It could be complete and utter placebo. I don't think so. Just based on kind of how I'm around my devices and stuff. But my point of this is, I don't think we realize in modern society how limited our awareness is moment to moment.

Like we're so distracted, you know, everything from radiation hitting our brain to just literally the amount of stuff we're putting in front of our face, the amount of thoughts racing through our brain, uh, it's, our awareness seems very small today.

It doesn't seem like, it seems like common sense. It seems like a, uh, uh, just a second nature to, when I was growing up, you just kind of knew what was going on. you're watching the halls in high school. If you, you know, whatever you were doing,

you were kind of always aware of what was up. And today, that just doesn't seem like something people even consider. How do you reclaim that? So if you're sitting here and you're feeling maybe like me, just like your awareness is small, like you are frazzled all the time. How, and I know you're working on the book, how do you start to pull that awareness back in?

How do you start to recalibrate that resonance so you can connect and be more aware of what's going on in your surroundings? Yeah, and our retreats. And our retreats started out as healing retreats for my operators who had PTSD already in Afghanistan. And, you know, and now they're here rescuing kids and they see a menu with children's faces and it just, it just kills them, you know. And so we started our retreats and helping people overcome anxiety, depression, PTSD, addictions, childhood trauma. And we've continued them for the last 10 plus years. And one of the things that we've, we've I spend a lot of time in. I teach a lot of different types of meditation. And a lot of people in Western culture and Christian culture think that meditation is an Eastern philosophy type of a thing. It's different. I do prayer and not meditate.

Well, here's the thing. I'm Christian as well. Prayer for me for many, many years was very much praise, praise, praise. Sorry, sorry, sorry, fix, fix. That's all it was, right? Can you imagine having a healthy conversation where all of it is is a one-sided conversation where it's, oh, babe, hey, you're so beautiful. Praise, praise, phrase. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I crashed the car. Sorry. Hey, when you come home, can you clean up the dishes? Sorry, fix, fix. And then hang up the phone. Boom. And that's not a healthy conversation.

That's not a healthy relationship. And so meditation is simply learning how to get out of your head space and into your heart. And so I teach a lot of different techniques in the meditation space. The Liberating Humanity has some of those on there as well. But it started in my early 20s. And I truly believe that most of the success of my finance companies and my anxiety and depression companies and even what we did in the undercover missions came from my understanding of this principle, being able to just tune everything else out and tune in to that voice of truth.

I met a guy in my early 20s. His name was Jerry Prine. And Jerry had never graduated from elementary school. He couldn't read or write, not even a third grade education. But he was tested at the University of Utah as the highest IQ they ever tested at the time, one of the highest in the world. And he was the inventor of a whole bunch of life-saving medical devices, the original software that we sit and talk to our phones,

Siri and voice recognition software, the original software. he created it that the IBM started using in the beginning. He created it. He couldn't read her right. And he created it because he wanted a way to be able to talk and have it type out for things to happen. Well, I sat down with him at lunch. This was 35 years ago.

Sadly, he passed away in the last decade. But about 35 years ago, I went to lunch with him. And he said, Paul, he said, you can have an IQ over 200 if you want it. And I said, well, I'm really not that smart. I worked really hard for my grades. I didn't even get a scholarship. I said, I don't think you can change your IQ. That's something you're kind of born with.

He goes, no, he said, you can't. He said, the difference between me and you is that I listen better than you. I said, you listen better than me. I touched my ear. He said, no, I listen better than you. And he touched his heart. He said, do you think that I'm the inventor of those medical devices? I said, you're the, you have the patents right?

He goes, yeah, I do. I said, you're not in the inventor? He goes, no, I'm not. I said, what? You stole them? He goes, well, kind of. He said, how long do you think the universe has been around? I said, millions of years.

He said, billions upon billions of years. He said, those medical devices were invented billions of years ago, I was a better listener than you. He said, countless works of art. musical pieces were written no perfect the first time because they were already written. And those composers were able to tune into that energy. He said, when you get good at listening, you'll be able to sense the energy of everything around you, recognizing that every one of us are connected, heart to heart. We're all more than just brothers and sisters.

We're part of this universal whole. He says, and when you learn how to tune into that, it will guide your life. life in so many ways. The successes I found in my companies came from me learning to get out of my head, into my heart, and in that still small space of truth, of silence, be able to receive divine guidance for me personally in my life, they would save me years of going down the wrong road. And so, and this happened every single time.

When I was, I was in Haiti, I, um, um, um, Haiti is the most, Port of Prince Haiti is the most dangerous city on the planet. And I did 12 undercover missions in Port of Prince area. One of them was a brand new team. These guys had never worked with me before.

By this time, I had done 30 plus missions in 10 plus countries. And one of that, the whole mass security agent said, hey, Paul, can you go out with this team? They've been on the ground for five days. They haven't found anything yet. You're the best I have.

can you go out with them? So I knew that meant I get no sleep. I go out and it was like two in the morning. We haven't found any connections with any traffickers. So I said, guys, can I take lead? Are you good with that? They said, yeah, yeah. They said, you're really good at this. I want to see what you do. I said, okay, you need to follow exactly what I say. I said, now, first things first, this isn't a religious conversation, but first things first, I need to understand that I believe in God. I said, most people believe in a supreme being. Some people call them the universe or all our heavenly father, whatever. I said, it doesn't matter. There's, God exists and cares more about these children than you and I ever could and knows exactly where they are. So if you're okay with it, or even if you're not, I'm going to start out by asking for some help.

So I don't start with some flowery prayer. I literally get out of my head, into my heart, ask for divine guidance. And then I said, guys, now I need you to understand how I see fear and third. faith. Most people think that faith is going to church and asking God to fix things in their life that they don't believe are going to be fixed. That's not faith. That's blind hope. Faith is next to unconditional love. It's the most powerful law in the universe. And it's simply this. It's the unwavering conviction that what I want to have happen will happen. And in that unwavering conviction, you literally tap into the forces of everything and bring that all into play. I said, it's hard for a lot of people have unwavering conviction about anything. Should I marry this woman? Should I start

this new job? Should I move to this new city? It's because they don't know if what they want is in line with what God wants. For me, in this space, I told these guys, I don't care if you think that God is a man or a woman or a cloud or a star or a person doesn't matter. There's not a virtuous creator of the universe that's okay with an eight-year-old being raped, period. So it's easy for me to have unwavering conviction that we're going to find these kids. And so I just, they're like, okay, dude, whatever. So I says, okay, just drive, just drive. And I'm just listening. I'm just tuning in, tuning in. And I said, okay, stop right there. He said, what? He says, that black alley with the motorcycle gang? I said, yeah, right there. You need to stop right there. He said,

what are you going to do? I said, that guy knows something. I need to talk to him. And this, this special forces guy. He's like, Paul. He said, this is a really dangerous area. We need to survey the area first. I said, no, I said, we don't have time for that. I said, that guy's going to be gone. I said, I can feel it. In fact, you guys were going to intimidate him. So stay here in the van. I'm going to go talk to him myself. And this guy is like, Paul, are you stupid? I said, listen. I said, I'll buy you pink tannies and we get home. I don't have two weeks to find out who's silly kids. That guy knows something. I get out of the van, walk up to him. This guy immediately pulls up his shirt and there's a gun that's tucked into his shorts.

And I'm just tuned in. I just listen. I pull out a bill out of my pocket. I don't remember it was a 20. I think it was my even a $100 bill. I hand it to him. He said, what's that for? says that's for you, you keep it. I said, I got another one for you, if you can help me with something. I told him what I was looking for. He connected me with somebody, connected me. We ended up taking down the largest child trafficking ring in the Caribbean, which ended up taking down four corrupt federal judges as part of it

because of the connections I got through listening that night. So everything is connected. Yes, there's energy and everything. Yes, there's energy that. that is distracting in these, with our 5G and everything else that's going around, to really get deep into that space of deep meditation, I get away from the cities.

I get to a place where I don't have my cell phone. I don't have anything. I'm literally at our sanctuary and in Latin America. I can tune in so purely because I don't have all that other crap that's going on everywhere. So I know there's a lot there. I just kind of ran. I love it. And, you know, I was having a discussion not necessarily, obviously, about the depth of what you're talking about, but I was talking essentially about God and the interconnectedness of everything. And this person was an atheist and said, well, I don't believe that. And I said, well, you know, if you're an atheist, then that means you're truth driven and science oriented and just look at quantum physics. Look at everything they're finding. Everything that I read, and I'm not a quantum physicist by any stretch of the imagination, but I was a math major, so I understand at least parts of it.

it only proves to me everything that you just said, right? Like how, you know, they're talking about, you know, you can, you know, knock a leaf off a tree here and it makes someone cough in Russia, right? Okay. Sure. So we're going to say that everything's connected through this quantum energy, et cetera, but that there isn't a higher power that is essentially what made that possible. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, to me, these, like, you can't get away from what you're saying, right? There's no counter argument to it because the deeper we go into science, the more it explains exactly what you're feeling in this connectedness. Okay. So I think a lot of people who may go to the beach, right? Why do you feel so great on the beach? It's not just because of the ocean or you're not at work. You're grounded.

You're separated from probably a big technology. Maybe your phone's there. But for the most part, you're detached. You have the rhythm of the earth, you know, with the waves coming back and forth, right? Your energy, you're ground, all these kind of things. And then all of a sudden, shockingly, your mind kind of opens up. You're smiling a little more. You're having deeper thoughts.

You're feeling more in love with the person that you're there with. And you're like, oh, my God, it's because I'm not at work. And it's like, no, it's not because you're not at work. You know, you could feel this way at work, right? but it's because you have allowed yourself to detach from all of this distraction. So, okay, so someone who's listening to you going, you know, I don't know that I'll ever be driving around Port-au-Prince looking for traffic children, but I would love to be, in my own way, to be able to tap into this listening more.

And I know you're writing the book right now, but what are some things that say, just someone who's just getting in, they're listening to and going, you know what, I've heard some similar things, but man, if this worked for Paul, I want to start to build this into my life. How would you start them down that path to listen with their heart? I think everything starts with just trusting a little bit and then building upon that trust line upon line. So, you know, when I was building my investment fund, if because I was living by this principle, as often as I could. If I felt some intuition,

if all of a sudden somebody came to mind that said, hey, you need a text, you know, Mr. Marriott right now. It wouldn't matter if it was 7.30 a.m. and my conscious mind was like, oh, no, it might be too early for him, whatever.

No, I just, I just did it. As soon as something came to mind, because I don't know, I don't know if that might have been the perfect moment. there's a million things that are out there that are outside of my conscious understanding. And so just trusting when it comes up, when something comes and says, hey, you should just call your son right now. And my, you know, I remember when I was, when I was 14 years old and I was at a, I was at a party. There was nothing, no information whatsoever that my father had that this was any different than any other place I had ever been.

but he he called me and he said Paul he said I need you to come home right now he said I know I this is just out of the blue but I just need you to come home right now I said he said I'll come and pick you up are you good with me come pick you up right now and I'm like what you know we're just here some friends he goes no I need you to come home now and that party some really bad things ended up happening less than two hours after I left you know my father was just he was just listening. And so especially when it comes to our kids, you have to ask yourself, is this coming from a place of fear, or am I truly receiving some information that I need to follow up with? And if it's coming with a place of just negative fear-based energy, it might be the wrong source.

But the spirit of truth speaks in peace, speaks in love. And as we tune into that energy, In my meditations, I teach people how way back in the time where we had the analog radios, where we had to turn the knob just right to be able to receive the, you know, all of those, your favorite radio stations were already in the ether. It was already all around you all the time, but you couldn't hear any of them. You had to just tune that knob just right. And as soon as you tune that knob, just right, then boom, all of a sudden you could hear it perfectly. Well, the same thing goes with our ability to receive.

Now, I'm going to go down a rabbit hole for 30 seconds here. Scientifically, inside of our brain, right between our two hemispheres, there's a little teeny opening. And in the middle of that opening, there's a little gland. It's called a pineal gland. Inside of that pineal gland are little teeny microscopic crystals. So back at the time where we had radios, analog radios, what is it that picked up the signal?

It was little crystals that they had in the radio. That's what it was, right? They're very susceptible to this information. Our bodies were created as receivers of information in this energetic realm. But based on some of the foods we eat, the things in our water, things like that, sometimes those things get calcified, the little teeny crystals that are in there. You guys have heard of Joe Dispins. I did a whole week training with Joe with our team last year.

And he has one part of his meditation where he has you, you squeeze your perineum, you know, down in your base area all the way up. You're pushing this fluid up your spinal column because the very, very top of it ends up in that little opening where that pineal gland is. And by pushing it up, you're creating a wave and breaking it up. There are things that you can do to also, like cacao, chocolate, You know, pure cacao can decalcify your pineal gland.

And so can tamar juice. And there's a bunch of other things. But I'm just saying that from a scientific standpoint, because our bodies have the ability to pick up signals, very faint signals from everyone around us, from this is how telepathic communication. I'm working with a, I have a good friend named Caroline Corey. Caroline, Caroline did a movie.

She's a producer, did a movie called Sphemy. superhuman. And in that movie, she scientifically proves things beyond our five senses. She, she interviews government agents who are trained on remote viewing. She has schools where children were, we're, we're riding bites with, with eye masks on and playing ping pound. She's now doing superhuman too that's coming out very, very soon that we're helping her, you know, kind of putting the final touches on. But in that one, she has, there's people who are, who doesn't even have optic nerves who are completely blind,

that through tuning into that energy can literally sense everything around them and see in their own way without the way that we see, but they can sense everything in the room as they're walking through it. So super cool stuff. The pineal gland stuff is something that I haven't researched enough, but at face value in my understanding. And I went down the rabbit hole a little bit because I wanted to learn more about remote viewing

because some of the accuracy numbers just, they didn't seem right if they're just guessing, right? It didn't seem, you know, just, again, math-minded, like just looking at their success rates. And for those of you listening, might not know what remote viewing is. These are different programs. There are a few of them that have been run

through various government agencies where essentially individuals with, my brain wants to say psychiatric, but that's not the word. Well, I just put it this way. The veil between the physical world and the spiritual world is thin for them.

They have special spiritual gifts, psychic gifts that allow them to see things that are outside of where they are. And there are certain, we call them mediums. There are certain mediums who have these gifts that if they called some of the FBI and CIA agents that I've worked with, they said that if these guys called on especially a child-related case,

they would follow up immediately. And a lot of these, a lot of them are gals, but they would say, okay, I see a, there's this case here. I see a red door. I see a street sign that says this and whatever. And boom, they would follow up and they would a completely cold case, be able to open it back up and solve it, which is incredible. So, you know, if we believe in a life hereafter,

We believe in a God. We believe in the spiritual world. We have to understand that there are people who have gifts where the veil is thinner. And each one of us, each one of us can peer into that realm. Each one of us can access it for our own good, for the safety of our children, for the direction in our companies, everything. We have access to something so much farther beyond what we can find on our internet, on our books, on our conversations with Hub.

Completely agree. And guys, if you're skeptical about this, just go down this rabble whole a little ways, just the stats on, and here's one thing I found interesting. Women remote viewers, female remote viewers, tend to see emotional-related things, like a distressed child,

where male remote viewers see physical objects better. Like, there are a series of, and I'm going to forget their name, so I'm not even going to say them, but you'll find them very easily, of famous remote viewers who found downed planes in lost,

remote areas within like within hundreds of feet of where they said that it would be. And this is guys, you know, we're looking at like 40 to 50% accuracy rates on these things. And for thinking about what they're doing, if you can be, and a lot of times the issue is not so much that they're not seeing something. They just don't have enough information to pinpoint a location. So they could even, there could even be more accuracy. But, you know, there's obviously that the messages don't always come in the same. but this is 100% a real documented thing.

The FBI and CIA at a minimum have rolled out these programs over and over and over again over multiple decades. And they just wouldn't raise resources on these things if they weren't real. There's actually a movie that kind of pokes fun at it, which is the men who stare at goats, right? So they're kind of taking a run at the topic, but it's based off of real programs that existed. You know, have you ever read The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer? No, you know what?

Somebody suggested that recently. I'm going to open that one back out. I would take a look at that. And he's got a couple. But essentially, this book for me, it's only 100 pages. It's super quick read, but wonderful author. The idea here is essentially we are not our bodies and we are not our minds. We are our souls.

And that our bodies and our minds are giving us data points. And we have to be very careful with confusing us, our spirit. who we are, you know, Paul, Ryan, with the voices or the signals that we're getting from our body and our mind. And he does it in a much more articulate way. But again, what it showed me and kind of gave me another resource behind my belief,

which is essentially what you said with these crystals is how do we know that those crystals aren't what are capturing the vibration of our soul and are actually what are putting us in this body? Like, why would these mechanisms there, and I'm not trying to go too far down. I know, for some people, this is conspiracy theory and Timpho had stuff for me.

It's the real world. But like, why would those structures exist in our body if they were just for what? Like, catching certain tuning and, you know, a little bit of balance. Like, there's these crystalline structures that mirror the exact way that we used to build those little radio kits, you know, 30 years ago when we were kids.

It just, it seems like more. of a leap to me to think that they aren't used for these purposes than to today in 2026 with everything we've seen and all the documentation that's been released and how much effort and energy government organizations and corporations have put into these types of topics for them for there to be nothing there so i i can see being skeptical i can see maybe uh uh to varying degrees not wanting to think about these things but to i think to operate as if they are completely untrue and we are just these meat pockets that walk around that evolved from single cell organisms is absolutely bananas. And I think it doesn't lead to the life that you

ultimately want, right? The love and the fulfillment, the mission, the passion, the purpose. These are, these are vibrational energies. These aren't things that just happened because you decided they did. Does that make sense what I'm saying to you? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And on that, On that note, when I teach deep meditation techniques that are retreats, as our healing retreats, I hammer in the importance of what I call setting sacred space. Now, let me just preference it this way. As we talked about earlier, you're walking through the airport with your kids. There's most of the people there are good, but there are people there who would do your children

harm. The same thing goes in the spiritual realm. You know, whether you subscribe to the idea that one third of the hosts of heaven fell and followed the adversary, whether it's a third, whether it's half, whether it's 5% it doesn't matter. There are intelligences, angel, spirits, in the spiritual realm who have our best interest in mind. Your grandmother on the other side, she loves you. She wants to help you in whatever way. There are energies, there are spirits that don't. And so if, and I'll use this example, you know, I've, I've worked with some mediums.

Remember, we're talking about the people who can do remote viewing, whatever. I've worked with a lot of them in trying to understand really where their gifts were, not only in finding the kids, but in other things beyond that. And there are some that do not, that do not set that sacred space a lot because they don't understand it. I had a guy who, he was like, he was like, okay, let me, let me tell you, let me just show you how gifted I am. I'm going to tell you what happened when you were five years old.

I'm going to tell you what your grandpa used to say to you. I'm going to tell you what your dad used to do, whatever, right? Okay? Now, he was accurate on all of those things. However, it's important to understand that Satan knows what you did at five years old. Satan knows what your dad said to you. Satan knows what your grandpa said to you. All of those things, this is if the adversary, Satan, as you might call it,

it wasn't the great fornicator, wasn't the great murder. he was the great deceiver. And so as we're going into the spiritual realm, it is super important that we protect ourselves against deception. And so our words are very powerful. And I do something very simple. As I drop in, as I'm teaching people out of their head, into their heart space,

I have them say the words. I ask and intend to create a sacred space, protected by divine protection, wherein only information that is in line with my highest and best good may enter. and the highest and best good for all, right? So I'm going to frame it where only truth comes in, where only information that's for my highest and best good comes in, because otherwise you can learn techniques to thin that veil,

and now you can get some inspiration that you can go do something stupid, right? You can get deceived. And so it's a powerful tool that can guide you in everything that you want in your life as you start learning how to tune into that space. but I set the sacred space, focus on the breath, move from the head to the heart. And a lot of times, you know, when I was in Ecuador, one of the undercover missions that we led in Ecuador. And I, I, um, the federal agent had some intel on an operation that was, it had a fake front

where they had like a, uh, a spa type of a thing, but they were, that was a fake front type thing. And we drove up to it and he goes, oh, damn. I said, what? He says, oh, it's, it's closed. down. It's gone. They must have got the tip. I got this tip a month ago and it's gone. And I said, no, stop. He said, stop. I said, no, stop. I can feel it. They're still here. He says, this is a waste of time. I said, no, stop. So he stops the van. Boom, I get out, pull my green beret friend, a couple of other operators get out. I go back behind the van and all I do, all I do is close my eyes,

focus on my heart, take a deep breath in through my nose, deep breath, hold it for a second, focus on my heart, out through my mouth. That one little action all by itself can take you by focusing on your breath, focusing on your heart, boom, it takes you out of your head, you focus on your heart space, and then just act, just act, and I could feel it. It told me, I'll see it. Just walk right over there. There's a restaurant, a couple doors down. I walk into the, the restaurant, walked straight up to the manager. I said, hey, there's supposed to be, there's a spa here and there's a massage place. I had special massages. Do you know where it's supposed to be? And he says, do you have an appointment? Freaking, I knew that place was still there, right? I said,

no, he goes, oh, I don't want to talk about it. So boom, I went out in front. Again, one more time. Close my eyes, deep breath in through my nose, held it for a second, focused on my heart, out through my mouth, open my eyes, and just filling into my heart, look, there was a lady that was in the crowd of all the people. There was one lady walking her dog. I felt it. There was a little just touch right here in my heart. Walk up to her. I said, hey, I wonder if you can help me with something. I've got a, I've got an appointment. You know, sometimes you lie when you're undercover. I've got an appointment with a, a massage place that's supposed to be here, a special one, you know? And she looks me up and down and I look like a thug. You know, I've got a big old. freaking chain on. I've got a hat that says the F word upside down on it. I got, you know,

and she said she picks up her phone, makes a quick phone call, calls, and sure enough, this madam comes, opens up these two steel doors and takes this in. So I won't tell you all the details of it, but we took down a very large operation there because of just tuning in. And we can do that every day. We can literally just in one, five seconds of our time, close their eyes, focus on her heart, deep breath in through the nose, hold up for a second, out through the mouth, and just listen, just listen. I can talk to you all day about this stuff.

You got the podcast, Liberating Humanity. We have, obviously, Sound of Freedom Book is out, but we have creating infinite wealth is coming. And then what is your infant wealth, sorry, your infinite wealth. And then what is, you said you're working on a book, a working title, when are you thinking? Yeah. It's a lot about that subject here.

I'm 14 chapters in. I think I'm going to finish it at 20 chapters. It's called, Are You Listening? And I literally, the intro of the book starts with stop. I mean, stop. You know, and that story of him and I talk about Jerry Prine in there. And I go deep into everybody from Tesla to Einstein to others who are able to tap into that spirit of truth. and then then teach people different techniques and breathing. I mean, even in your infinite wealth, with the golden age of conscious capitalism, chapter four is on meditation.

And people say, well, how does meditation tie into creating wealth? Everything, everything. It can save you years of time with the wrong partner, with the wrong direction by learning just how to tune into that divine guidance. I hope you guys listen. I know that this episode wasn't like straight business or anything, and obviously we do this all the time with guests, but I think that what you are sharing,

this is like all the chaos of our modern society, this is the unlock. This is the other side of the coin, in my opinion, like the anxiety, the stress, the tension, that low hum of just frustration that so many people are living with. and they, you know, we try to escape by, you know, drugs, alcohol, you know, some sort of vice, you know, whatever dopamine hit we can. The solution is slowing down and listening. That's, that's the solution.

And it's, it's not easy because I feel like so much of this, this isn't, like you were looked at as a weirdo in a lot of friend circles and a lot of familial circles. If you go down this path and you, you know, and it doesn't have to be some crazy woo-woo practice or whatever, but you just slow down like you said, put your hand on your heart. your version of this, a lot of people are going to look at you like, oh, you know, he's going off the rails or she's, you know, she's into something weird. Guys, find this for you, find your version of this that works for you, but this is the unlock. And I know from my own life and the times when I felt the most at peace is when I am practicing, I have my practice with God. And I am finding space for quiet.

And in the times where I feel the most frustration, it's, it's go, go, go. you know, things in my ears all the time, all constantly on my computers. And you'd think by now at 45, I would listen. I would listen more often. But I just appreciate the hell out of you work you do. I know you probably hear that all the time. But you have, you've changed the world, my friend.

And it is just such an honor. Where is the best place for people to follow along on your journey as the books come out as you continue? I know you have more coming from the podcast and different stuff. So how do they get in your world so they know what's up and what you have coming down the pipe? Most social media profiles is just liberating humanity on Instagram, on Facebook and others. LinkedIn is just my name, Paul Hutchinson, but everything else is liberating humanity.

And you can go to liberatinghumanity.com and get links to different podcasts. You'll get a link to this one as well. I like to promote everybody that I've been on with. And so we're compiling all of those together into one place. And if somebody wants to get involved directly with the foundation, it's the Child Liberation Foundation, you go to childliberation.org. And directly, you can get involved there. You can donate 20 bucks a month to help save kids and see all of the things that we're doing. The 10 years that I led undercover child rescue missions in 15 countries, we rescued more than 7,000 children that are back with their families.

However, today, under the leadership of my wife, the Child Liberation Foundation is helping more than 10,000 children a month in preventing them from being trafficked. We have teams on the ground that we funded that are identifying trafficking in high-risk situations across borders. We have certification programs because I've been in the darkness and I know what it looks like and I know how to identify it. We have certification programs for people who work at hospitals and hotels and law enforcement, etc. We took down one of the largest child trafficking rings between Ecuador and Peru because the doctors knew what to look for. Sent my wife in.

She interviewed some of the kids. Sure enough, got all this intel. We took down this entire trafficking ring because people were watching and knew what to look for. And so, you know, that and I will say there's a lot of information in the Sound of Freedom book on what did. do to keep your kids safe. The whole first section is called the making of an undercover operator, the first four or five chapters. But in doing so, it's not only every single chapter is full with tidbits of things that you can do to learn to keep your kids safe, to keep you safe, et cetera,

and everything from situational awareness to Crop McGa, et cetera, all the way through. But then we go through some of the rescues in the jungle, the rescues on the island. At the end, it's all about liberating humanity. What does that? it look like? Are we going to fix this problem by pulling children out of hell forever? No, we're going to fix it by pulling the hell out of the adults, by pulling hell out of humanity. That's what we have to do. We all have to learn how to heal. I'll end with one little quick antidote. I love this story. This man is sitting on his couch and he has his little boy comes in and says, Daddy, Daddy, I want to play baseball. And dad's like, I'm busy right now, you know, and goes outside,

reading his newspaper. And the little boy comes back a little bit later. He goes, It's a beautiful day outside. Please can we play baseball? And the dad turns the page of the newspaper and he sees this advertisement that's got a map of the world on it. And he has this idea. And he tears out the map, tears it up in a little piece of the paper and he throws it on the floor. He says, son, you need to learn your geography. You go get some tape, tape together every single piece, every single country where it goes, every state, every island, everything.

You put it all together into one world. if you can do that, I'll go play baseball with you. He thinks it's going to take an hour or longer. Little boy comes back in five minutes. And it's perfect. And the dad says, how did you do that? And little boy said, well, there was a picture of a man on the other side. I just put the man together and the whole world came together.

Guys, that's the answer. That's how we liberate the children as we look at the man in the mirror. We have to ask yourselves, what do I need to do to show up differently? What do I need to do to heal my anger issues, my self-esteem issues, my anxiety, my depression, my addictions? What do I need to do to release that trauma? All of that stuff you can find on liberatinghumanity.com. And because if we can do that, we help the adults heal, we save millions of children. So, Ryan, thank you so much for having me on with your audience today.

I'm incredibly, incredibly grateful. I appreciate you. God bless, my friend. super great how was that beautiful good got a done thank you good no that was that was awesome i mean honestly i i could talk to you all day about this stuff i i um you know it's not it's never been my career but i like am ferocious with understanding all of this and um you know it's funny i get into these arguments my mother it's there i'm not stop My mother is a saint.