Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley - How to Make Men Great Again | Adam Allred
Episode Date: July 14, 2025Spartan philosophy, built in the black-ops lab of business: https://www.findingpeak.comFinding Peak podcast: https://linktr.ee/ryan_hanleyJoin our community of fearless leaders in search of unreasonab...le outcomes...Want to become a FEARLESS entrepreneur and leader? Go here: https://www.findingpeak.comWatch on YouTube: https://link.ryanhanley.com/youtubeAdam AllredWebsite: https://dghboy-assessment.vercel.app/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adamallredofficial/Ryan Hanley and Adam Allred discuss the importance of reclaiming masculinity in today's society.They explore the role of tough love in parenting, the significance of male mentorship, and the difference between being nice and being good.The discussion emphasizes the need for community and brotherhood among men, the impact of personal transformation, and the importance of self-reflection and accountability.They also delve into the idea that pain and suffering can serve as catalysts for growth, and the necessity of choosing one's truth in the journey of self-improvement.Episodes You Might EnjoyFrom $2 Million Loss to World-Class Entrepreneur: https://lnk.to/delkFrom One Man Shop to $200M in Revenue: https://lnk.to/tommymelloIs Psilocybin the Gateway to Self-Mastery? https://lnk.to/80upZ9--Recommended Tools for GrowthOpusClip: #1 AI video clipping and editing tool: https://link.ryanhanley.com/opusRiverside: HD Podcast & Video Software | Free Recording & Editing: https://link.ryanhanley.com/riversideWhisperFlow: Never waste time typing on your keyboard again: https://link.ryanhanley.com/whisperflowCaptionsApp: One app for all your social media video creation: https://link.ryanhanley.com/captionsappGoHighLevel: It's time to take your business workflow to the Next Level: https://link.ryanhanley.com/gohighlevelPerspective.co: The #1 funnel builder for lead generation: https://link.ryanhanley.com/perspective--Episodes You Might Enjoy:From $2 Million Loss to World-Class Entrepreneur: https://lnk.to/delkFrom One Man Shop to $200M in Revenue: https://lnk.to/tommymelloIs Psilocybin the Gateway to Self-Mastery? https://lnk.to/80upZ9This show is part of the Unplugged Studios Network — the infrastructure layer for serious creators. 👉 Learn more at https://unpluggedstudios.fm.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Women will say, I love dad bods.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
Just so we're clear off.
This is all societal pressure.
It's all this fabricated creation to neuter men.
That woman that says, I love my husband's dad bod, is drinking wine with her girlfriends at the restaurant, drooling over the waiter that's in shape.
That's what's going on.
She's watching her vampire diary movies and watching these hot, sultry guys in shape, and she's getting turned on.
And she's not getting turned on by the dad bod.
Women like dad bods in the sense that they feel safe with it, because they feel like they control that.
Women will say that because they've got the man neutered.
like it because it puts in control. But what drives the sexual attraction from women on fundamental
level is that she knows her man's dangerous. She can't control him and he's attractive to other
women. The work that you're doing, I think, is so critically important at this moment in time.
And it's something I've been delving a little more into in the show. It's not necessarily my
area of expertise. So I don't, it's not like all I talk about. But raising two boys, 11 and 9,
right, this idea of masculinity, how they fit in the world, how they become the best versions of
themselves, how they align with kind of, you know, I have my tattoo on my arm is the American
flag with an inset cross, right? I believe in essentially Judeo-Christian values and the initial
ethics upon which our country was founded. That's, those are the core values that I live by.
How I teach them, how you bring them up, you know, I've wanted to have more individuals like
yourself on the show because I want to learn, and I think my audience does too, how do we reclaim
masculinity if it was ever lost, right? So,
uh, you know, with all that, dude, how the fuck do we make men great again?
Well, first off, Ryan, thanks for having me on the show. I think these conversations are
you're asking the right question as far as I'm concerned. How do we reclaim it?
I think it is something that's been lost. And I think it starts here with these types of
conversations, you know, like more and more coming together and having really frank, honest
conversations where we're not trying to be politically correct. We're not trying to sugarcoat
anything. We're just talking.
you know, what we think is true and what's important.
And first off, I just have to say, I'm not really an expert at anything, right?
Like, I don't, I know what I do for work.
I've been in business my whole life.
I'm good at that.
But as far as anything beyond that, I'm just a dude.
I'm just a guy going through life trying to make sense of it.
And realizing that so much of the things that I've wrestled with and struggled with in this
masculinity phase at this crazy world circus that we live in right now are very, you know,
everybody's going through the same thing in a lot of ways.
And so I started sharing a message on social.
media a couple years ago, had no followers, had no expectation of a getting bigger, anything
like that.
Started talking about these types of things.
Where is masculinity?
What's the state of it?
How do we reclaim it?
And it just resonated, just blew up that people were coming from all over the world, like coming
and weighing in on this and having thoughts and opinions and a lot of women feeling that as well.
I think we have lost our way as men.
I think we've lost a lot of masculine, not all men.
There's a lot of really masculine good men out there.
I know a lot of them.
collectively we are in a really bad place.
And I think every single societal eel that we're facing right now, everything is directly
or indirectly linked to the weakening of masculinity in society.
And I don't think it's some sort of natural process.
I don't think this is some sort of organic evolution of human consciousness to erase gender
roles, erase masculinity and femininity and create this kind of one gender sort of hodgepodge
thing.
I don't think that's natural.
I think it's being fabricated and manipulated by force.
that want to control us and keep us divided and keep us broken as a people.
So I think we have lost it.
And I think we reclaim it by coming together as men and starting to have conversations,
starting to act like men, starting to act like our ancestors.
You know, the dawn of time, men, they gathered in tribes.
This is how they operated.
They sat around the fires at night.
They planned where they were going to hunt, who they were going to go to war with,
how they were going to keep the tribe alive, where they were going to migrate.
You know, they had these conversations.
Boys were taken out of their mother's home at early.
early ages in most of these cultures and they were brought to the fire of men and they never
went back to their mothers because this is how you make men. It's not a good woman that makes a good
man. I hate hearing that because I think it's such bullshit. It's other good men that make good men,
starting with a man's father. But in the absence of that or when you move past that into the world and
you leave your home, it's gathering in good tribes with other good men where we hold each other accountable.
We call each other out. We have each other's back. We share each other's journeys with each other.
And iron really does sharpen iron. And we've lost.
of that. In our modern, you know, society, complex society, we've been isolated, we've been
attacked at every angle, we've been told we're wrong for the masculine qualities we have. And it's
a real issue. We're suffering the fruits of it nowadays in our time right now. You know, I'll give you a
good example of this as a microcosm. So my son's playing in a state baseball tournament.
He's nine years old. And the other team we're playing, the coach is pretty hard on the kids.
He's not a dick. Ben played sports my entire life through college, after college.
been around a lot of different coaches, he's hard on them.
Hard, but not a dick.
Okay, our coach, good coach, very nice.
They smoke us, okay?
So before the game, parents are going,
oh, you hear the way he's talking to the kids,
and, you know, this one kid made like three errors in a row in warm-ups,
and he dropped a, a goddamn it,
which I'm not a big fan of blaspheming, but whatever.
And, you know, parents are all, you know,
half the parents are like a gas.
and they all look at me because they know I'm a coach too.
I coach my older kids and they're like, you know,
what do you think about this?
And I'm like, they fucking need to hear it.
I'm like, he just missed three ground balls in a row.
Like he's starting at third base for his state tournament team.
Like, I know he's nine.
I get that.
But like at this age, you know, he should be able to make that play.
And I think it's appropriate for the coach to express frustration at him
at the level of expectation that he has for him
and to want him to achieve more than giving that mediocre effort
that he did. I didn't say all that. Basically what I said is they need to fucking hear it.
And it like, dude, I've been thinking about it, especially knowing that we were going to talk and
that this topic would probably come up. I was like, just that idea that all these moms were,
were literally like shocked that he would use aggressive language and call kids out on the field.
And yet when it came to game time, they were energized, prepared, they executed, and they absolutely
smoked our team who is treated nice. And it's this idea that like we have gotten,
we have confused, uh, nice for good. And I've seen a lot, there's been a lot of conversations
around this topic lately. And I'd love to know where you fall on that, and where that line is.
Because I think this idea of being good versus being nice is something that just at a base level
is completely confused in our society. And we are way too nice to everyone.
We're way too nice in the way that we interact.
And then that spurs so much of this depression and resentment and confusion and anxiety
is because we simply are incapable today of speaking up for ourselves and expressing
what we actually feel in the moment because we always defer to being nice.
Yeah, we're incapable of that.
Then we're incapable of getting punched in the face, figuratively speaking, right?
So we're trying to insulate our kids.
And there's a lot of data that shows that, for example,
example, single mother homes are terrible for the outcome of sons, particularly. Even when you take
out the economic advantages that men generally have over females in separate households, single mother
homes are travesty statistically. Now, of course, there's a lot of good men that come out of single
mother homes. There's a lot of phenomenal single mother homes that do a great job. So I'm not talking
about all single mothers, but statistically, it is the data, the data is there. And it's because of what
you're saying in my opinion. It's exactly this. I get a lot of single women reaching out to me on
my content. What do I do? I don't have a man in my life. And I, one,
One of the first things I almost always say is get them in martial arts, get them in sports,
and let the coach coach.
Don't try and protect him from it.
Let him fail.
Let him get his ass kick.
Let him get his ass chewed out.
This is what boys need.
They need strong masculine presence in their life.
That's not afraid to just punch him in the face, figuratively speaking.
Tell them, you know, what they need to do.
You share that.
I've got an 11-year-old boy.
Three years ago, he got on a basketball team.
And the first season, we just got absolutely eviscerated.
And the coach, one of my buddies, shout out to Rich.
he is hard on those boys.
Similar to what you're saying.
He yells at him.
He loses his temper.
He's hard on him.
He pushes him.
He, you know, past the breaking point.
And over the course of the last, he's been, my son's been on his team for the last three years,
a lot of kids have dropped off.
Almost always, it's the mothers that are getting offended that Rich is yelling.
And I'm worried with you.
I'm like to do it, Rich.
You know, short of actually abusing the kids, go hard at him, man.
Kick my son's ass, dude.
I want him to know that he's got to respond.
respect masculine. He's got to respect the coach on the field. He's got to be able to take his hits. Go for it, Rich. And we just had our last season. We were one of the best teams in the league. So three years, our guys, boys have just progressed. It went from zero losing every single game the first season to now win in most of our games, our third season. And I credited to Rich, his coaching style. He's hard on the boys. He knows what he's talking about. He's competent. But then he really just gives these boys, you know, what they need, which is strong, dominant leadership to get these boys to, like, turn up and do what they need to do. So I'm glad you
shared that story because I think that's really, really important. The question about the nice
guy versus the good man, they're not the same thing at all. I think fundamentally when you're
talking about being nice, you have two things that are going on. One, you have a level of deception.
So the nice guy is putting on a front. They're not actually saying what they feel. They're not actually
doing what they think is right. They're trying to fill expectations that other people have given them.
So they're really, really, really concerned about fitting in. They're really, really concerned about what
other people think about them. And so they constantly are trying to conform to what they think the
social requirements of them are either in a relationship with a woman or around other guys or at church
or at work or whatever. And it's a level of weakness. So we're talking about deception that is
also compounded because it is deception. It's weakness. And then we try to parade that as strength.
And I was raised very orthodox, religious, Christian religion my whole life.
One of the things I've broken away from that largely, that theology and dogma, I still consider myself Christian.
I read my scriptures every single day, I believe.
But breaking away from the religion, and one of the fundamental problems I've had with that is that the church that I went to.
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Was constantly in the business of neutering Jesus, trying to create a Jesus that was a nice guy,
that tolerated everything, that was sweet, that never offended anybody,
that just accepted all kinds of everything.
And I don't read that.
When I read the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, none of that fits.
And so I'm reading the scriptures.
I'm listening to the people speaking.
And I'm like, this isn't adding up.
Jesus was a man's man.
That guy told the truth at the cost of being liked.
He told the truth at the cost of his own life.
He was killed because he was a truth teller.
Just like all prophets that have come on the scenes that have spoken the truth, they are
killed by society because they're willing to say what really needs to be said rather than
fit in or be accepted.
and the nice guy is concerned with fitting in and being accepted,
the good man is concerned with telling the truth
and orient in his life towards a truth.
That's the difference, in my opinion.
Completely agree.
One of my favorite Greek myths is around Prometheus.
And for those of you who aren't necessarily attuned to that,
Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man,
knowing that he would be punished.
And his punishment was he was chained to the...
the side of a mountain in which I want to say it was falcons or condors, some very razor-taloned
bird, basically ate his liver out every day for the rest of forever.
And he willingly accepted that punishment in exchange for doing what he thought was right
and was the truth, which was man should have this technology.
It shouldn't be held over them in the form of a fire in this case.
and I think that today, to your point,
this idea of fitting in,
it just destroys people.
It absolutely destroys them.
And I see it, and I've talked about it a lot on this show,
I had an awakening about a year ago.
I've always been fit.
I always tried to keep myself fit and work very hard at that.
And I was coaching my kids' baseball team.
And I actually walked out, he was pitching,
and I walked out just to kind of calm him down.
he kind of had a couple bad batters
and I could tell he was a little out over his skis emotionally.
So I was just giving him a chance to breathe.
And I'm standing out there and talking to him
and I'm kind of scanning the crowd.
And I was literally the only guy, the only man
who didn't have a dad bod beer gun, right?
Now, I don't necessarily want to be judgmental
because, look, everyone lives their lives.
But what I saw was an acceptance of,
an unhealthy lifestyle because it was the norm for everyone else.
So instead of thinking for yourself and saying,
you know what, I get that today having this keg hard beer gut
and being a dad bod is something that like is now held up as like there's like
t-shirts and whole brands built around it, which I think is fucking insane because
you're all unhealthy.
But like to just not think for yourself and be like, here, I'm just going to reduce myself
to the meme so that I fit in with everyone else on that.
this normalized idea, even though I know my back hurts, my brain is foggy, I have no sex
drive, I'm not attractive to my wife, I am not setting a good example for my kids,
but it's socially acceptable, so I'm just going to let it go. And I was like, I will
never allow, and it changed a lot of the focus of this show, too, to this idea, which then
one of my audience members made this for me, bro, which is so cool. He's like a wood shop guy,
and he's like learning how to do wood stuff. It's just the letter's,
for those who are listening at home,
and it stands for give no fucks.
Right?
Like, live your life.
Yes.
It's your life.
Living.
And so when you're, when you're talking,
like, I'm very interested,
um, when someone comes to you,
guy comes to you, right?
Maybe he's struggling with this stuff.
Maybe he, he had been kind of indoctrinated by his mother or by, um, you know,
kind of this postmodern liberal bullshit that, that so many men have shoved down their throat
in public school, et cetera.
And he, he's trying to,
break out, but is caught in that vortex of kind of average and, you know, this, this niceness.
How, what's the first step to start to crack out of that mentality?
I want to unpack a little bit on what you were just saying a minute ago and then get to that.
That's a great question.
One, I hear this all the time, too.
Women will say, I love dad bods.
And no, they don't.
No, they don't.
Just so we're clear on that.
This is all societal pressure and it's all this fabricated creation to neuter men.
That woman that says, I love my husband's dad bodod.
is drinking wine with her girlfriends at the restaurant drooling over the waiter that's in shape.
That's what's going on.
Or she's watching her vampire diary movies and watching these hot, sultry guys in shape,
and she's getting turned on.
And she's not getting turned on by the dad bod.
So women like dad bods in the sense that they feel safe with it because they feel like they control that.
So women will say that because they've got the man neutered.
And so then they feel like, I like it because it puts me in control.
He doesn't have any options.
I don't feel insecure.
But what drives sexual drive, what drives the sexual attraction from women,
On some fundamental level, and this is hard to say,
people tell me I'm wrong all the time,
and I'm telling you this is true, is some level that she knows her man's dangerous.
She can't control him and he's attractive to other women.
Doesn't mean he's acting on it.
As a man, I don't support any infidelity.
I believe you stand to your commitments.
You stand by what you say you're gonna do.
You take care of those on your watch.
Starts with your wife.
I absolutely believe that.
I'm a traditional man that way.
But there needs to be some level that she understand,
she has no control over you and some level that you are dangerous as a man
for you to be able to maintain a sexual chemistry with your wife.
all of this stuff that's going on right now is designed to break down masculinity. And I want to share
one other quick story on this. My best friend, he's got a ranch up in Wyoming, 600 head of bison up there.
I've gone up a bunch of times. I've gone up a couple times to harvest a bison. I shoot a bison,
take home the meat. It's awesome experience. He has the females and the children, the calves.
They're all in one out in the pasture. He separates the bulls out from them. Because if the bulls are
in the herd, it makes a whole herd hard to manipulate.
It's hard to file them off to the slaughterhouse or whatever he wants to do with the herd because the bulls will rile them up.
It'll stand up.
It'll resist that control and that manipulation.
That's what's happening right now in society.
We're the livestock.
And the people in power are trying to either neuter the men, turn him into this nice guy sort of bullshit syndrome stuff or completely remove them.
Isolate them telling them they're toxic, they're bad, whatever else, make society hate them because the herd is easier to manipulate when there's not strong masculinity within the herd.
That's what's going on, period, in my opinion.
that's what I see.
When it gets to the question of what do men need to do when they start to become aware of this
and they say, hey, what I'm doing isn't working.
I'm not satisfied.
I'm not fulfilled.
Whatever it is they're looking at in their life that's not working.
The first fundamental thing you have to do is get in a tribe with good men.
Now, that's going to be hard if you don't have that in your proximity.
You know, a lot of men don't.
A lot of men don't have close friends.
They've been isolated.
They gave up their friends for a career or for a marriage or whatever because that's
what they were conditioned to do.
But if you want to level up as a man, you got to have brothers with you in the boat
doing the same thing. You are the product of who you surround yourself with. We hear this all the time.
And in our modern age now, it's not just who you surround yourself with in proximity. It's who you
surround yourself with on social media. What type of podcasts are you listening to? What type of
influencers are you following? What type of books are you reading? What is it that you're putting
into your head that's coming from other masculine sources out there? And the really cool thing in
this complex modern society that we live in is that you can pick whoever you want. Everybody's on
social media. So you can literally hang out with Joe Rogan every single day or Jordan Peterson
every day or David Goggins or whoever because you can listen to their content every single day.
So the primary step number one is putting a constant source of masculinity around you, whatever that
looks like, inundating yourself with that every single day. And then you start to naturally level up.
Your paradigm will start to shift. Your programming that you're putting in this biological
processor that you have is going to start running differently. And the output
are going to start reflecting these inputs.
And the really cool thing about this is it doesn't take an enormous amount of discipline
to like white knuckle your way into being a better man.
It takes you just making a conscientious, disciplined effort every day
to constantly surround yourself with the right kind of programming
so that you can start to level up.
You can start to think differently when your paradigm shifts,
your thought shift, your motion shift, your motion shift,
your actions change, and then your reality changes.
Yeah.
I was given incredible advice by this mentor.
So I had a health scare in 2017.
And by hell scare, nothing serious.
I basically passed out.
I was emceeing an event.
Second day, closing keynote.
I'm supposed to do a fireside chat.
I get, we're like five minutes from go time, right?
This is the finale.
I fucking drop right to the floor.
I had allowed myself, I was probably 20 pounds overweight,
drinking too much, eating shit food,
not mentally taking care of myself, not sleeping properly.
You know, I had this vision of myself,
when I was a college athlete and post-college and, you know,
I played three-sport athlete in high school.
I had that vision in my head.
Yet, if you, I was like, it wasn't translating
with what I saw on the mirror, which was not the same person.
Okay, so I have this moment.
I basically, I'm on the floor.
The guy's got to go out and finish the conference by himself.
I pull myself together, whatever.
It's, you know, it was embarrassing, but more of a wake-up call.
And so that's when I really started this journey that, you know,
we find ourselves here.
2025 X number years later, but during that time I met this mentor and he said, and I said, man,
I'm fucking way off, dude.
Like I'm way off.
I'm not working out.
You know, zero quality in my sex life to what you're saying before.
Like just all the things.
I'm just this shadow of who I would like to believe myself could be.
And dude, he looked at me.
We were on Zoom.
And he said, pick one hard thing and just do that.
just do one hard, find one thing that for you is hard
and just go do that for like three months.
See where you're at in three months.
Just do one hard thing.
And what happened was, as you could probably imagine,
you know, I picked a deadlifting goal.
I wanted to deadlift five plates.
I didn't make it.
I got very close.
I got to 465, but, um, uh,
I could have got there.
But to be honest with you,
I started to get some like knee pain and I was like, you know what?
There's a risk to reward there.
You got a balance.
Yeah, I was like, I was like 43 years old pulling 465.
I'll take that as a victory and give back to just be in a regular shape.
But my, but what happened was, dude, and this is the beauty of like this, this idea is like,
okay, so that was hard.
And I was, and I, so I had, what did I have to do to get that goal?
I had to start eating better.
Had to start eating more protein.
Had to start taking care of myself.
Had to make sure that I got appropriate amount of sleep.
Baba, but.
And then all of a sudden you look up and you're like,
and it didn't take me just for everyone.
It didn't take me three months to get the 465.
It took me like three years.
But the process, it was like to do that one thing
forced me to do all these other things.
And all of a sudden I pop my head up and I'm looking around and I'm like, oh shit.
Like I'm like kind of back to being almost athletic again and like being a man again.
And why?
Why?
And here's where my question comes from.
And how did you feel, though?
How did you feel?
Oh, bro.
It was like, so I've always been,
I came from a super poor family
in a tiny little town
in the middle of fucking nowhere
in upstate New York.
At 12 years old,
I remember looking around my community
and this is God.
To me, this is God, right?
I remember walking around
this tiny little town.
Every male in my life
was either an alcoholic,
drug addict, or a criminal,
as well as all my friend's dads,
right?
Like, we were just getting by.
Like, it was everybody.
I remember walking through that town going,
I gotta get the fuck out of here.
like this can't be my life.
Like I gotta get out.
12, right?
And to me, that can only be,
that's only God put that thought into my brain
because plenty of my buddies
that grew up in that town
did not make it out.
Some of them aren't with us anymore.
Some of them are in jail.
Right.
So like, that was got,
so I always had this, this like,
I don't give a fuck mentality
because I had to,
to get out of that situation.
If I did what those guys did,
I was screwed.
But I, to your point in getting neutered,
like when I,
when I hit, when I got out of high school,
hit college and got into the professional world,
I started believing all this shit that you're talking about, right?
That like, you got to be nice all the time
and you have to be put together
and you got to have the nice stuff.
And you know, you don't want to be too aggressive.
You don't want to be too intense.
And I completely lost myself.
And then in the process of getting after that deadlifting goal,
I got myself back because now I'm, you know,
I'm in my, when I first started, I was in my early 40s and, you know, it took me, like I said,
three years to get there. I, I like, I'm lifting more than 24 year old college kids at the
gym. And I'm like walking around and my shoulders are back now. I'm like watching women
eyeball me, you know, like young, I'm like, blah, this is, this is fun. Like, this is different.
Like, you know, I'm never would achieve it on my wife. But like, it was just, it was like,
How did that change the energy between you and your wife?
Well, we ultimately ended up getting divorced, I think, over it because she liked the neutered version.
That's sometimes what happens, man.
That's what you have to be prepared for.
I think that's really important.
It can go either way in that.
It's either going to drive you to the punchline, which you just were too afraid to get to.
You're just going through this process of like, you know, we're supposed to stay together
and do all this stuff and I'm supposed to be neutered and I'm supposed to be.
Either get you to the punchline like, this is not where you're supposed to be,
or it brings that relationship back together in a really powerful way.
Yeah.
Both are the right outcomes.
Yes.
Dude, I'm so glad you said that.
I think that's such an important point, right?
Like, I think a lot of times guys who would love to go on a journey like this, right?
In their head, they fantasize about a journey, taking on a hard challenge, whether it's a marathon or whatever your thing is, right?
I think they project out all the potential outcomes and they assume some of them are right and some of them are wrong.
and I think that what you just said is one of the most powerful points that you can make on this topic,
which is whatever outcome comes out of the journey is the right outcome.
That's a very hard idea, I think, for people to catalyze in their brain.
I think it's very difficult for them to do that.
I'm sorry to interject.
I want to interject on this.
I think this is so important.
It's only hard if you don't know what your purpose is as a man.
that's only hard if you don't understand what your purpose is.
If you're confused with all these other side quests and all this program you've gotten from
society, it's really hard.
And going through divorce is hard no matter what.
Like, I'm not taking away.
I went through a divorce six years ago.
It was the hardest thing I've ever gone through my entire life.
And yet it led to the greatest, happiest, most fulfilled place I'm at now in my entire life.
So it was the catalyst for so many things after the fact.
But I really, I really fundamentally believe this, uh, that a man, every man has the
exact same primary purpose on this planet. And that purpose is to be the most powerful,
best, authentic, vibrant version of yourself. It's to know that your purpose is to level up.
That's your purpose. Primary numeral one. That's how you orient yourself towards this world of
entropy, where every day we walk out our front doors, it's storming our own beaches of Normandy,
and the resistance is there and everything's going to be attacking us and trying to tear us down.
If you don't understand your role is to level up in that adversity and that adversity is good for you,
and adversity is what makes you stronger and better, and it's the only way you can
learn. It's the only way you can grow that the world of entropy is designed for our benefit and it's
happening for us, not to us. And when you understand that's what your purpose, everything else will
start to make sense. You'll start to see it really clearly. But so many men have been conditioned
that a woman is their purpose. They've been conditioned by a single mom or by, you know, a school system
where the women were the authority figures. They roll into adulthood. They're told women have
basically arrived and we're supposed to catch up as men because we're really dropping the ball. We're
weak. We're stupid. We're bumbling. And a woman's going to help us like, you know, find ourselves. And so
they start to make a woman or they start to make these external things, their purpose and their
priority, and then everything gets fucked up at that point. Everything's off the rails.
Look at the way men are portrayed in every fucking sitcom or show that happens outside of like
John Wick. It's the guy's a bumbling doofus who can barely keep it together. And if it wasn't for
the wife, the house would be on fire and the kids would be, you know, animals running around like
Lord of the Flies. And it's insane.
insane because that's not the household that I was raised in or that I saw, right?
I mean, my parents got divorced early, but in both cases, both my dad's, you know, him and his new
wife and my mom and her new husband over time, in both cases, like, while alcoholic, drug addict
criminals, in both scenarios, the man ran the house.
And I was blessed that even though they were fuckups in their normal life, I got a lot of
love, so I do understand that I was blessed in that capacity and not a lot of people come
out of situations like mine with love.
It's absent of love, which is probably how I was able to make it out.
But this idea that we're the bumbling ones, and if it wasn't for these put together women,
now, granted, I believe it's a, like, and I've heard you say that, it's a symbiotic
relationship, right?
It's meant to be this relationship where the woman is as important as the man, but her role
is different, right?
Our role is different than hers, but not necessarily better or worse.
not more important or less important, but wholly different.
And that is the lie that I think is killing us,
is that somehow we're just these dumb animals
who need to be pointed in the right direction.
And if it wasn't for women, we wouldn't know what we're doing.
And it's like, I've actually watched my career,
my self-worth, my physical strength,
my relationship with God,
my relationship of kids.
Since I extracted myself from that marriage,
three years ago to today, I am as close to the best version of myself as I have ever been
once I took my power back and started saying, this is who I am, take it or leave it.
You don't have to like the way that I am, but this is exactly who I am and who I believe
I'm supposed to be.
But going back to the thing you said, like, I would never have chosen that.
I would have just stayed that neutered version of myself if she had a midlife crisis,
essentially and kind of, you know, chose a different path.
But, you know, it just, I would never have chosen that.
I would have been unhappy for another decade of my life
if I hadn't been able to extract myself from that situation.
Scary, difficult, challenging.
I mean, dude, I know you went through a tough thing, right?
You feel low, you feel dark, you question every decision you made,
you're depressed, you don't even understand half of them.
feelings that you go through. How did you pull yourself out of that dark moment, right? Like you,
you, you, not necessarily how you got into it, but how did you, how did you start to pull yourself
out of that spot? Oh, that's a great question. Um, so I, uh, when I, when I, I did what so many men
did in my first marriage, which is that I've always, I've always considered myself a fairly
masculine man, fairly driven, fairly ambitious, but I really bought into this bullshit that when you
get married, happy wife, happy life, you pedestalize her, you kind of worship her a little bit,
and you, and she can't really be wrong because she's a woman. And so, and the responsibility was on
me to kind of just constantly try to conform to what she wanted. And it didn't make either one of us
happy. It was a terrible frame of, and I inherited this largely for my religious programming,
to be honest with you. Society does it, but I was really religious since I was conditioned to think
this way. So, one of the things I'd done tragically that so many men had done before is I gave
up my friendship group because my wife didn't like him. And my wife didn't like him because she
wanted to control me. I don't, I don't think this was a conscious thing in her part. I think it's just
baked in there. You know, they do these shit tests and they see what they can. Self-preservation for
her. Yeah. They start having kids. They're vulnerable. And so what they're going to do is try
to neuter the man to make him safe for her. And essentially that she's doing the opposite of that.
She's creating a man. She doesn't respect and then ultimately doesn't feel safe with. And
then it's a whole thing. So I did that. I gave up my tribe of friends. And when I got started going
through the divorce process, which she instigated, by the way. So she was the one pushing for it at the
end. I was in this, no, you just go down with the ship, you just stay neutered. We have kids now. It's all
about the kids. And she really started pushing it. What's ironic is as soon as I accepted that,
as soon as like, yeah, this is what we're doing, she flipped. And then she was like, I don't want to
get divorced anymore, but she'd already pushed it to the breaking point. She'd already got me to agree
with her and get there finally. And then she tried to play the Uno reverse card. And I had broken out
of that fog that I had been in for so long and I was like, I can't, I can't go back. And then it's just
kind of funny how the story changes women, uh, so many modern women nowadays, not all, uh, refused to
take any kind of accountability. So then the narrative that she told everybody was that I was
abandoning the family and I cheated on her. Neither one of them was true. I fought like hell for cussie
with my kids. I have 50, 50 custody with my kids. My kids are sunrises and sets on them. I never
cheated on her. I never even flirted with a girl when I wasn't in the marriage with her.
But that became the narrative of why the marriage was coming to an end. So one of the first things,
that happened and just a credit to my homies is that, uh, they just showed up. My buddy showed up.
When I was going through, some of them were going through divorces at the same time.
So we could kind of share that journey together. But even the ones that weren't, they were just
like, bro, we're here for you. So I started hanging out with my friends again. That was hugely
therapeutic, uh, for the process. But the, the truth is, is at the end of the day, you have to
bear your own cross. You have to realize you're going to take a lot of hits in life. You're
And that's okay.
And what happens so often for most of us is we get really resistant to the learning.
We just are going through shit.
And instead of trying to learn and say, what am I, what am I being taught here?
What is this adversity designed to teach me?
We either just try and white knuckle our way through it or worse, we start to become a victim by it.
We start to feel sorry for ourselves.
We think we got the short end of the stick.
We feel like we're screwed somehow.
And we start playing this victim card, which is, it's just the worst possible way
that you can orient yourself towards life is that you've been short change somehow.
So I, you know, but I was in that state.
I was going through this divorce.
I was mad at God.
I was like, fuck you, God.
What the hell was that about?
I tried my best to make that work.
I did everything that was right.
I did all the right things in it, you know, and it didn't work.
What was that all about?
I turned to you, I prayed to you.
I asked you constantly why, you know, how to change me to help me be better to make my marriage work.
And none of that worked.
And now I'm going through divorce and I'm mad at you.
I'm mad at my set.
My whole identity is being shredded apart, all the things that I thought I knew about myself,
my competence, my money's being taken from me, all my resources.
And worst of all, probably in all that, it was my kids.
I'm losing 50% of the custody I have with my kids.
I love my kids.
So I'm in that state, and I was for a little while feeling like a victim.
Now I showed up every day.
I put one foot in front of the other.
I had responsibilities.
I didn't quit.
But I was in this state of being angry and bitter about it.
And I went into a constant state of depression.
Every single day I woke up not wanting to live.
Every night I went to bed hoping I would die.
I would fantasize about dying every day.
I wasn't about to kill myself.
I had kids.
I had responsibilities.
I wasn't like having suicidal ideations.
But I fantasized about it, just being released from the pain that I was going through.
And every single day, there was no breaks.
And I remember praying to God just having these conversations.
I was breaking down even my anger at him.
I was just getting so blasted by this.
And I was just like, God, can you just take this away for 20 minutes, trying to negotiate
with God on this.
Like, just give me 20 minutes where I don't feel like shit.
Give me 10 minutes, whatever I can get, just some break from this.
And I had this really profound spiritual experience in the midst of that.
And I got this voice that came into my head where God was like, son, if I take away the
pain, I take away the learning.
I can't take it away from you.
You got to eat your broccoli.
This is your broccoli.
You got to eat it.
And when that epiphany hit my head, there was a catalyst of other domino effects internally
that started transpiring.
And when I realized that and I believed that, I heard that voice.
And I was like, okay.
oh, that's what's going on. I have to eat my broccoli. I stopped begrudging the pain, even though I was
still depressed, even though it was every day I woke up feeling like my backpack was full of bricks.
I stopped like feeling sorry for myself. And then, you know, I like, you know what? I got a,
I got a lot of bricks in my backpack today. It may take me a long-ass time to take care of my
responsibilities day, but I'm not going to quit. I'm going to carry my bricks and I'm not going to
complain about it. And then that started to translate into a state of gratitude. And I started really,
you kind of had to fake it at first a little bit, but I really started to start.
trying to tell God in my prayers and my meditations, thank you for this, God. This is teaching me
to be a better person. This is deepening my humanity. It's giving me context. It's giving me
resistance and adversity that I know fundamentally is how I progress and learn. I really started
leaning into that. And within a couple of weeks, my prayers of gratitude for this pain and suffering
that I was going through went from being faking it to really authentically believing that and
feeling that and having a real profound gratitude. And then it was like overnight, the pain went away.
The depression was gone. As soon as I took the lesson out of that, as soon as I leaned into it,
opened myself up to it, stopped trying to resist it, stop trying to feel sorry for myself.
As soon as I started leaning into that and accepting that and embracing this world of entropy and taking
it for what it's worth, that this is the catalyst for growth, then it, once I got that lesson,
I didn't have that pain anymore. And so it's really kind of those two things. My buddy's showing up for me,
like having my back, knowing I wasn't alone,
and then having this recognition that my cross was mine to bear
and that I needed to appreciate the fact that I had even a cross to bear
to begin with and that that was important for me on a fundamental level.
And then it really just, I don't know, man,
it was just like the launch pad,
off after that, you know?
We have a saying in my house that I use with my kids,
everything is your fault.
Everything.
You strike out and you think the ump made a bad call, it's your fault.
You got a bad grade on a test because you think the teacher didn't teach it right
or doesn't like you and overmark it's your fault, right?
You didn't get this done, it's your fault.
Everything is your fault.
Everything is your fault, right? Everything.
And whether that is technically true or not doesn't matter, you know.
And this is something that I kind of, I just had to develop through all my own beats
because I did the same thing, man.
You know, I would look at it and be like, God, I don't understand.
Like, I'm a good person.
I never cheated on my wife.
I feel like I give everything I have to my kids, everything I have to my friends.
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And what the fuck?
Like, come on, man.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, you're talking and you just don't understand.
And, you know, the voice you got is exactly what you needed to hear.
What I needed to hear was everything is your fault.
Stop being a fucking victim, right?
Like if it didn't work out the way that you thought it should,
understand that it worked out exactly the way it was supposed to
because everything is your fault.
And when you embrace that, you stop looking at the world as like,
oh, Adam said this shit that made me feel bad.
And then I needed a drink to cope with it.
And then that drink turned into five.
And now I'm hung over and I'm not doing well on this sales call.
and it's like, no, no, all of that is your fault.
Adam did nothing to you, right?
You know what I mean?
He made a statement that he thought was true.
You took it a certain way.
You're the one that decided to have the drink.
You're the one that decided to have five.
You're the one that woke up hungover.
You're the one that's sucking on the sales call.
Those were all your decisions, not Adam's decision.
And that idea, you know, that idea came to me, like, after reading the obstacle is the way,
which I thought was a really, you know, I don't always agree with Ryan's politics,
but I do think his writing is phenomenal.
And that concept of like,
God put that shit in front of you
because he needed more out of you than you were giving.
So he needed to put some hard shit into your life
so that you could ascend
so that you could be a better version of yourself.
He needed you, right?
Like, obviously you have been called
to talk about this idea of masculinity
and helping men better understand how to retake.
Like, does that happen if you're the neutered version of yourself
grinding it through a loveless marriage or a marriage that, you know, isn't working the way that you'd like it to? Does that ever happen? Do you ever become that guy that you are today? Most likely not. No, pain and suffering is a catalyst. It is a catalyst for all growth. And I actually agree with everything you're saying. I take it a little bit of a different angle on it's all your fault. I say it's all your responsibility. Because there are things that happen in your life that aren't your fault. Somebody does something you have zero control over, influence over, but affects you in a certain way, that you had no control over.
that doesn't mean it's not your responsibility.
It doesn't matter whose fault it is, right?
We're saying the same thing.
It doesn't matter whether if somebody else's fault or your fault.
The reality is it doesn't matter.
It's your responsibility.
What are you going to do with this?
And the thing in life is that you get to manifest your reality.
Everything that we see in the external is a reflection of the internal percent.
The external is the internal.
And the hard thing with this is that they're really like two truths.
In every scenario, there's true truths.
You can put on a spectrum, but I just say for easy polarity.
there's two truths. There's a negative truth and a positive truth. Both are equally true. That's the
crazy thing about this. The negative truth is true. Oh, it's hard today. Oh, this happened. Oh, this happened.
You can come up with a long list of things about why life was hard, why it wasn't fair, whatever you want to
come up with. And it's true. Those things that you're saying in your head are probably true. There's a lot of
good reasons to not show up today. And the opposite is true. There's a lot of good reasons to show up today.
The positive truth. It's just as equally true. And that's why it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
It's so hard to rationalize someone out of a negative truth into a positive truth because in their mind, they're rationally right.
This is true. This is true. This is true. I can hang my hat on this. This is why I'm getting screwed. It wasn't my fault. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That could be true. But the other truth is that all this stuff is happening for you. It's designed for you to level up and grow and be better. That's also equally true. And you can find all the reasons why you should succeed. And so you really just get a pick what truth that you want to lean into. Do you want to lean into the negative truth or do you want to lean into the positive truth? Do you want to lean into the positive truth?
Do you want to lean into being more, you know, submissive and compliant and broken?
Or do you want to start becoming more authentic, more powerful, and more vibrant?
You get to pick that truth in this life and nobody can pick it for you.
But what helps enormously in that process, going back to something we've already been jamming on,
is who you surround yourself with.
When you surround yourself with men that are picking the positive truth, men that are taking
their hits on the chin like men and still getting up every day and taking care of their shit
and leveling up and getting better, whether that's in immediate proximity or whether
that skies you're listening to you know a phenomenal book that just was had a profound impact on me was
jockle willing's uh extreme ownership like and it's exactly what you're saying that book was just so good for me
it taught me things i already knew but it's just in a more powerful vibrant way but i'm surrounding
myself by those types of influences that's the stuff that i'm programming my brain with when i start
hearing people complain about how hard their lives is no matter how true it is when i start filling that victim
energy coming off from people i can't be around them i'm like do go away like or i'll go away like i cannot
be around that stuff. It's so corrosive. And it's infectious because you surround yourself by
by victims, you'll start thinking like a victim. You surround yourself by a bunch of people who think
life's out to get them and it's that person's fault and it's capitalism's fault and it's whatever else.
Everything's fault, not my fault. You will start to think and inherit that negative truth and it will
become your truth and it will become your reality. But you get to choose. You get a choose.
They're both equally true. Which one are you going to choose? Which one's going to have the better
outcome? I mean, it's a rash. It's an easy decision when you pull yourself out of the emotional,
you know, turmoil and you start to look at it from a macro level. It's like, well, obviously,
if I choose to see things positively and optimistically, my life is going to start reflecting
positivity and optimism. If I see things negatively, it's going to start reflecting that.
So you get a pig, man. Which one do you want? So you're in this dark place and you start to pull
yourself out and like all humans, you have setbacks. How do you, a lot of guys that I know,
who've started on a journey, gotten three months, six months, a year, sometimes multiple
years into a journey of finding who they are, becoming a more powerful, connected version of
themselves. And then something happens, a relapse. They go on vacation and maybe they have
issues with alcohol and they drink too much and now they're kind of back into their old ways.
Or they feel like they're fixed and they start hanging out with that group of buddies who is toxic,
who is victim, you know, and now they're, how do you recalibrate yourself when you find
yourself stepping off the path? Like, what is your mechanism for, for reorienting yourself
back in the direction that you want to be going in when you find yourself in a place where it,
it isn't that? Great, that's another great question. So progress isn't like this. It's like the
stock market. It's going to go like this. And so you have to just know that. You're going to
take three steps back, forward, two steps back. You're going to take two steps forward. Some
days you're going to take three steps back. It's going to do that. That's, that's the world of
entropy. When you step out your front door, you're getting attacked. It's just how it is. The world is
against you. And it's not against you because the world is bad or evil. It's against you because that's
the only way you learn how to grow. Like, God designed this perfectly for our development and our
progress. And so suffering really is a catalyst for everything. And so you have to recognize that.
And so one, just accepting life on its terms instead of trying to get life to fit my terms, this is what I
think it should be using words like should or should. This shouldn't have happened to me.
instead of like this is what happened to me and this is how it works this is working or it isn't
working it's not whether it should be working or shouldn't be working it is or isn't and so i'm
going to just accept life on its terms like life is resistance life is hard i'm going to get my ass kicked
every day i step out the front door some days it's going to be harder sometimes it's going to be
easier but either way it's coming at me that's the first thing is just accepting that in my opinion
and then the other thing for me was really just learning to talk to myself like i was somebody that
I liked. Instead of that voice inside that was so many of us men are programmed with that shame
voice that just talked shit on us, you're a failure, you're a loser. Oh, look, you can't do that.
You thought you had gotten better, but you're really not better. Look how bad you are. You know,
this internal voice that just is so destructive and corrosive inside our heads. I got that from
Jordan Peterson. I really started changing the way that I spoke to myself. I started talking to
myself like it was somebody I was coaching. I wasn't trying to make everything look like it was coming
through rose-colored lenses, right?
Own the fact when you fell.
Treat it like it's a constructive opportunity
to learn and grow instead of like it's game over
and you can't do this.
And I wanted one personal story on this.
Another is kind of spiritual.
And I hope that's okay.
I'm kind of waxing spiritual on our podcast.
Wax away, my friend.
When I was, you know, like,
even as I got out of this depression state
in the early stages of my divorce,
you're still, you never arrive.
So first off, you never arrive.
You never get there.
And then it's like, you know, it's not like a video game where you get to save your progress and you're good.
It's not how it works.
Every day is this refiner's fire.
And so you just go through that.
So there's no arrival.
There's no getting to a point where I'm good now.
It's everything is a struggle.
And that's okay.
You know, I, I, I, my kids, um, unfortunately, they, they go through the divorce too.
And as much as I try to insulate them and their mother, to her credit, wasn't trying to bring this to the kids either.
we both tried to do best that we could by the kids, which made made the divorce infinitely better than it could have been.
A lot of my friends went through different experiences.
A lot of the shit that you're going through as a man gets poured out on your kids, unfortunately.
And I was taking my son to school one time, and he said something or did something, and I just snapped at him.
And he didn't deserve it.
He didn't do anything wrong.
He was just being a kid.
I'm driving him to school, and all the shit I'm dealing with,
comes out on him and he didn't deserve it.
And I drop him off at school.
I was yelling at him just being a shitty dad in that moment.
I dropped him off at school.
I watched him walk into school with his shoulder slumped, you know, and that's what I'd
given him for today.
It was a bunch of bricks in his backpack that he had to carry now that I gave him.
Wasn't his fault.
It was my fault.
I unloaded this stuff on him.
And I sat there in front of the school for probably like 10 or 15 minutes.
Just I'm a piece of shit.
I'm a failure.
I'm not doing this right.
I just, you know, just beating myself up.
And a voice came into my head.
Again, I get these occasionally.
And it was like, hey, just skip this part.
You don't need to do this.
Just get to the good part where you start to change.
And you learn from this.
And I stopped and I actually listened to it.
And I was like, okay, I've never thought like that before.
But I'm going to check myself right now.
And I'm not going to say another negative thing to myself.
Even though there's a lot of good reasons to talk shit to myself, I really screwed up.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm just going to get to the good part, which is where I make changes and I get better.
And so I went through the rest of my day.
I went off to work, went through the rest of my day, got everything done, didn't carry all the shame and guilt, which makes it impossible to progress.
When you're shamed, when your guilt, shame is attached to addiction, for example.
Like they can scientifically show this psychology of shame.
It fires a lot of the same neurons.
It keeps you entrenched in one place.
So we think shame is good for us because it'll get us to change.
It does the opposite of that.
Shame keeps you entrenched right where you're at.
So I skipped the shame part and I went right into work, got my stuff done, went picked up my son from school that day.
And I just had a real heart-tart conversation with him.
And I said, son, I'm a kid too.
I'm responsible for you as your dad, but I'm going through a lot of stuff.
You didn't deserve what happened to you.
I'm sorry.
I shouldn't have done that.
That wasn't your fault.
That was my fault.
And this is why it happened and it's not a justification.
But I want you to understand it wasn't, you know, it's coming from a place of me really struggling.
And I took that out on you and I'm sorry.
And then I took my son to go to his favorite.
thing. I bought him some ice cream. We went home. Had a great night, you know, great evening. And I've
never done that since to him. I've never talked to him like that since. And I was able to skip the
entire part of just beating myself up and talking shit and just get right to the good part of like,
and I had to do that by changing the voice in my head. I had to change, you know, this voice came
into my head that I don't feel like it was mine. I feel like it was something that came an endowment,
you know, a divine endowment. But then I had to, I had to like hold it together where no, no,
no, no, I'm not going to talk shit. That voice started coming back in. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
I'm only saying positive things.
Adam, you're working on this, dude.
You're doing good.
You got a lot on your plate.
You're going to fuck up.
That's okay.
That's part of the process.
But you're going to get better.
You're going to level up.
This is all part of learning.
And I just had to force that positive, constructive coaching voice into my head.
And I was able to skip all of the nonsense and just get to what really matters,
which is that we learn from the trials and tribulation we're going through.
And we get better.
And that's what I was able to do with that epiphany that I got.
I get a little, I got a little teary eye there.
I've been through the same thing.
I actually, a couple weeks ago, you know, I, you know, I tell my kids all the time,
especially when it comes to sports, I literally don't care about the outcome.
Attitude and effort.
That's all I care about.
If I can teach you anything, it's attitude and effort, right?
And I saw my son not delivering the effort that I would expect to see out of him.
And we get in the car after the game.
and similar situation, I kind of unload on him a little bit, right?
And I realize, like, two or three minutes into this diatribe, I'm not even fucking talking to my kid.
Yeah.
I'm talking to me.
Oh, this is good.
I'm talking to me.
Yep.
I'm literally, I'm not even talking to him.
I'm literally, I'm in my head, I'm manifesting all the things that I'm not doing, the bad
decisions that I'm making, the places where I'm procrastinating instead of taking action, right?
And in general, you know, I would like to believe that I'm a pretty intense, hardworking person.
But like, I still have these things inside of me and even things from my past that I haven't dealt with, right?
Like, I played college baseball, which is great.
But I probably never gave it more than 90% effort.
So I have this thing inside me of like, you never got to see how good you could be because you never gave 100%.
Now I'm putting that shit on my kid, right?
Who knows if he wants my life?
He don't want my life.
You know what I mean?
He's got his own life.
And I stopped.
And I just said, I'm sorry, bro.
I said, his name's Duke.
I said, dude, bro, fucking it's one game, man.
Who cares?
I was like, you know, you work so hard.
It's a long season.
You're 11 years old.
You play a massive amount of sports versus what we played back then.
Like, dude, you're good.
I'm sorry.
Right?
And I'm fucking crying.
He's looking at me.
He's like, Dad, are you all right?
And I'm like crying in the car because I realized
that like, oh my God, I was just willing to give my kid all this.
I love this idea that you said bricks in his book bag or whatever, right?
Bricks that he had to carry.
I'm giving him these bricks that he didn't deserve.
He didn't ask for him.
And frankly, at 11 years old, I mean, you have one game that you're a little off and whatever.
It's not like he didn't make any plays or whatever.
Like, holy shit.
Like, pump the brakes and maybe, you know, you just found some shit you got to deal with, right?
And it's, man, it really wakes you up when you can be self-aware.
like that. I, uh, yeah, I, I feel that, dude. I feel that a lot, you know, and talking to my dad,
I've learned a little bit about that, too, that some of shit he gave me was stuff that he didn't
deal with, you know, and I think we do that. And the break in that cycle, though, breaking that cycle,
I think is very, very important for us. And then it allowed, again, it gives us a target. Now, I know,
hey, I got some shit that I got to deal with around my relationship with effort and, and this and
stuff. And, you know, I want to go back to one point, and, and I know we're getting close to the
number here, but I just have to touch on this. I want to get your take. So when I coach,
I coached those entrepreneurs. And when I coach those entrepreneurs, I walk them through what I call
reality OS, reality operating system. And you spoke about this a minute ago. And it's why I want to
bring it up. I feel like so much of this conversation, the ideas that bring the actual toxicity
into what we're talking about are either cultural, societal, expectations, ideas, concepts,
etc., that are placed upon us,
that have no basis in reality.
There's no receipts for why those ideas
are pushed on us as true.
And yet, we accept them.
And when you remove that veil,
kind of you were referencing this before,
different words,
like, when you just operate strictly
by what reality provides you,
so much of this nonsense goes away.
Because it's like, it's like,
it's not how it works in real life, right?
In real life,
The beta, soft, weak man who can't, who their female does not believe could protect them,
can provide for them, can have an original thought, can be that driving force of the household,
whether she needs you to be or not.
Once she doesn't believe it, that relationship is toast from the standpoint of any true connection of relation.
Right.
So, okay, so that's reality.
So we can say everything we want about feminism and women's power.
and toxic masculinity.
But at the end of the day,
we are seeing more divorces.
We're seeing liberal women
are the most unhappy and depressed
constituency of any that you can find
in the United States, right?
These postmodern liberal women
who live by this feminist mentality,
they are the most depressed.
So if you're living in reality,
how can you maintain that vision,
that idea that this is correct
when there's no receipts on the back end
to show you that this actually produces
a positive mental progress.
I just can't get past it.
So I guess my last question for you is
taking everything we've talked about into account.
When guys are sitting here, they're listening to this,
hopefully they're on a walker at the gym
or they're just driving or whatever they're doing,
right, they're listening to this.
And they're saying, shit, I want to be that strong guy, right?
What is the core concept in reality?
What's the one concept that they can grab onto to use as that initial light to pull themselves out of this place?
Right?
If you could just give them one concept to say, you know, again, we're broad stroking.
I know individual, but you could just give them one.
You can hand them one and say, hey, you start here.
Good chance you're going to pull yourself out.
What would that be?
I'm going to break the rule that you just gave me.
I'm going to give you two.
Oh, shoot.
There's no rules.
There's no rules here.
Do whatever you want, man.
The first concept is that you can get better.
You have to believe that.
Like, it's, it, you, too many people are in the victim mindset, man, where it's like,
God just curse me.
It's just how I am.
It's just how it is or whatever.
And they, they don't think that they can make any real changes because maybe they've tried
in the past.
They've tried to discipline themselves.
They've tried to do things differently, and it didn't work.
And so they just feel like this is their, this is their journey to just be that guy that
goes down with the ship and life is just misery and it's just checking off boxes of responsibilities
and being unsatisfied and they and you have to believe and not just believe but know that you can
be better than you are and here's one way you know that's true this isn't like a pep talk it's not
just something to try and get guys to feel more positive if you can look out around you whether
that's in immediate proximity or stories you've heard people you've seen uh
social media or on the internet or whatever, if you see somebody that's been given less than you
and done more than you, you don't have an excuse. You can do better. And everybody can find
somebody that got a lot less handed to him and did better than them. All of us can see that around
us every single day. Guys that turned up changed their life, made it happen. So you don't have an
excuse. You can be better. And then the second thing is just like what we've been talking about.
Too many people, myself included in my first marriage when I was coming out of it, shaking my fists
that God is, thinks, I've done everything right. Why isn't life working out? We think we've done
everything right. We think we've paid the price tag that needed to be paid for whatever that is we
wanted out of life. And the truth is you haven't. You just haven't. The world of entropy doesn't
care about your feelings and it doesn't care about your perspective. It's just the hard, cold truth.
Either it is working or it isn't working. And so when you say to yourself, I'm doing everything right
and it's not working, you're not doing everything right. Just start there. And that's not to beat
yourself up. That's to start being constructive and saying, okay, what is it that I can start to do
that I can make tomorrow just one percent better? It's like kind of what you were jamming on earlier,
just picking one thing, you know, to just start improving your life on. One percent better every single
day for an entire year isn't 365 percent better. It's 37 times percent better. You can start in a single
year, in six months, drastically change your outlook on the world and therefore change, you know,
when you change the internal, the external changes. Everything in the external starts to change.
And so you have to take a ruthless approach to your own self-development and progression.
And one that doesn't sugarcoat anything or doesn't give you an out, doesn't give you an excuse.
You get the excuse because you didn't get what that person had or whatever else.
Nope, this is your life. This is your one life you got. There's no reset button. So own it.
Be the best version that you can be every single day. And that doesn't mean you have to hit the ball out of the park tomorrow.
That means you've got to be a little bit better tomorrow.
Go be a little bit better tomorrow than you were today.
What does that look like?
Well, there's so many different ways to be better, so many different avenues, but it's going to
start by who you surround yourself with.
What type of influences you're putting in your head, and you'll start to see those things
that you need to improve on, and you'll start making small changes.
Jordan Peterson talks about this.
Get up and make your bed every day.
Start with that.
Organize your life a little bit.
You don't have to go and be like John Wick tomorrow, but start today just making your bed.
And then maybe tomorrow, it's like getting up 30 minutes earlier than you did the
day before so you can execute a little bit better and start to take some accountability for your life
in the morning. And you know, you just start finding little things that you can tweak and adjust.
And then it kind of starts working. And then you keep doing it. And then pretty soon, like you said,
you pull your head up and you're like, dude, I'm deadlifting 465 pounds. I feel like I've got this
energy and this drive. And yes, my marriage is falling apart now, but this is the catalyst now for
the rebirth, the phoenix of being reborn from the ashes into something better. God gives us
pain and suffering so that he can strip away our own bullshit and our own self-deception,
our own lies and build us into something much more authentic and powerful than we were before.
So just making those changes, knowing that you can make changes, it's possible, other people
are doing it, you can do it, and then start to look at your life really critically.
I don't mean shamefully, I mean, like, really analyze what you're doing every day.
What's working?
What isn't working?
Start making some of those changes.
Don't stop.
Don't quit.
Don't give up on yourself.
Keep making those changes.
You know, what do you listen to at the gym?
What do you listen to where you're driving to work?
Or you just listen to music or you listen to some podcasts about people talking about what we're talking about right here.
What are you putting into your head?
Start making those small changes and suddenly your world just turns into a completely different place.
Dude, I wish you didn't have to go to the darkness to be where you are today, but I'm so glad that you're here today sharing this message.
I love it.
This has been phenomenal.
I know you have a program for guys that they can get in.
Maybe just tell them where they can go if they're digging on this and they want to get deeper into your world.
they go to do that? How do they get deeper connected to you? How can they learn more from
the work you're doing? Come in social media platforms, all social media platforms, Adam All Red,
official. And then, yeah, we, we haven't officially fully launched the, we have a whole,
it's, it's more of a community. It is a coaching program, but it's more of a community for men
to gather where we have weekly firesides that I host. We have curriculum and, uh, material that we
cover, but it's more of conversation, brothers sitting around the virtual fireside,
sharing our journeys with each other
and we have a chat group
and we have a whole bunch of things
we've got like 40 members right now
so there's like hardly anybody there
but we haven't even started marketing it yet
we're working on some software
for some accountability
got this daily logbook
we have guys that are starting to
they're testing it right now
we're working out the little kinks
and once we have that
we're gonna fully launch it
but if you're interested in coming
and being part of the party
you'd love to have you there
the only thing we ask
it doesn't matter what your background is
it doesn't matter
who you are as long as you show up authentically
and you're coming here to be
part of the process
of leveling up
together. All characters are welcome. We've had really profound success stories already. One of one of our,
it's called doughboy. Uh, dough boy is a spectrum for me on masculinity on one end of the spectrum. You have
the Pillsbury dough boy that was harmless. You poked him in the stomach. He giggled. On the other end of
that spectrum, you have the doughboys of World War I that were willing to fight and die in the worst
conditions for love of God and country. Where are you at on that masculinity spectrum? That's why it's
called doughboy. We have a masculinity, uh, assessment test, which isn't like giving you a score on how
much of a man you are, it's giving you a viewpoint of how you process the world through the seven
different articles of masculinity, which hat do you put on the most? And then we do a lot of training
and discussion about how to put on hats for different occasions, how to adjust so that you can be
the best, most effective, competent version of yourself in whatever set of circumstances that you have
in your life. So you want to become a part of it. The price point is really, really cheap. This is
about mission over money. We do have a membership, a monthly membership fee, but it is to keep
the lights on and keep the content made and keep everything working. But it's, it's accessible.
to anybody who wants to start making changes in their life.
So love to see you there.
Appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Thank you so much.
Likewise, Ryan.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Great discussion, man.
Let's go.
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Make it look.
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