Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley - Launch 1 Product Every Week: The "Idea Machine" Method | Alex Mehr

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Spartan philosophy, built in the black-ops lab of business: https://www.findingpeak.comFinding Peak podcast: https://linktr.ee/ryan_hanleyGet the exact 5-step script that turned a broken sales process... into an 80%+ conversion rate in under 90 days: https://game.findingpeak.com/masterclose/How do you launch one product every week without burning out? In this episode, Alex Mehr walks through the Idea Machine practice (10 ideas/day → 70/week) and why shipping weekly creates the feedback loops that actually build winners.We also get tactical on using AI to go from idea → market‑ready first iteration (landing page, benefit stack, objections, CTA) in about a coffee break—so you can learn by doing.-> Get 10% Discount on Famous.ai: https://link.ryanhanley.com/famousConnect with Alex MehrLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexmehr/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctoralex/You’ll learnThe Idea Machine: build the habit (10 ideas/day) and ship one per week to “let the market teach you.” (around 39:20)Action → Information: Brian Armstrong’s maxim and how to design fast feedback loops (40:33–42:33).Market‑ready in ~12 minutes: use AI to draft landing pages, benefit stacks, objection handling, and mock data so ideas look/feel “real” before you code (47:08–50:57).Execution > opinion: how Alex filters noise, thinks from history/data, and avoids building for problems that don’t exist (00:00–02:31).Capture “divine” ideas: low‑friction tools & rituals so inspiration becomes tasks you actually ship (56:31–end).Join our community of fearless leaders in search of unreasonable outcomes...Want to become a FEARLESS entrepreneur and leader? Go here: https://www.findingpeak.comWatch on YouTube: https://link.ryanhanley.com/youtube--Recommended Tools for GrowthOpusClip: #1 AI video clipping and editing tool: https://link.ryanhanley.com/opusRiverside: HD Podcast & Video Software | Free Recording & Editing: https://link.ryanhanley.com/riversideWhisperFlow: Never waste time typing on your keyboard again: https://link.ryanhanley.com/whisperflowCaptionsApp: One app for all your social media video creation: https://link.ryanhanley.com/captionsappGoHighLevel: It's time to take your business workflow to the Next Level: https://link.ryanhanley.com/gohighlevelPerspective.co: The #1 funnel builder for lead generation: https://link.ryanhanley.com/perspective--Episodes You Might Enjoy:From $2 Million Loss to World-Class Entrepreneur: https://lnk.to/delkFrom One Man Shop to $200M in Revenue: https://lnk.to/tommymelloIs Psilocybin the Gateway to Self-Mastery? https://lnk.to/80upZ9This show is part of the Unplugged Studios Network — the infrastructure layer for serious creators. 👉 Learn more at https://unpluggedstudios.fm.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Find an agent at CINFIN.com. The good news is if you are an idea machine today, and you don't have the execution abilities of Thomas Edison, you're given a gift, which is AI essentially helping you build and execute. You can mope about jobs being lost due to AI, but you can also say, hey, maybe God has a different plan for me, even if you get laid off because of AI. Maybe that's part of the plan.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Maybe that is in your future. It's forcing your hand to have all these ideas that you had over the years did not execute. List them, knock them out one by one with AI. We can talk about how to do that. But it's like essentially knock them out one by one until you have a winning idea. What I struggle to understand about people is, and maybe it's just because I was raised in the middle of woods with no money. I didn't have the luxury of believing things that weren't true or didn't have any like backing
Starting point is 00:01:36 behind them as potentially being a successful strategy. So if you'll ask me, I'm like, how can you support Elon Musk? Because the shit that he says, it works. You may not want to hear it. And you may not want his lifestyle. But you can't deny the fact that when he says here is an executable principle, that that principle is most likely accurate and most likely going to yield positive results. Like you just can't deny that.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And I literally, you know, if going on 45, I can't even, I can't even be in the same room with people who are going to, who are going to, they're going to allow or they're going to be willing to discuss and or even pitch ideas that have zero receipts behind them as to them being successful, just because they sound good. I can't even get my head around that idea. 100%. That's why I left San Francisco. So I lived in San Francisco for 15 years. And I just, I just, I'm like, okay. I believe that, man. I believe that. I've had these little touches of Silicon Valley and different things that I've done. I pitched a startup that I was part of for a while, the PMP. And, you know, I've had these little touches. And I just, I always feel like, you know, one of these things is not like the other. And that thing is me. You know, I just always feel that way. Yes. Or also, and I'd be super interested in your take on this. And then we can get into what we
Starting point is 00:03:04 want to talk about. But I also kind of feel like a lot of people are pretending. Like they'll say something and, you know, it'll be more of like this ideology than based in reality. But you can almost tell by the conviction in their voice that they're saying it because they feel they need to, not because it's what they actually believe. And that is almost worse. Yes. That's even harder to be around. It comes from arrogance. So people are over. confident in their own ability to understand really complex things. And they oversimplify it and they go into one of these isms. And they're like, oh, it needs to be this because it is.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm like, okay, go throughout history. And look at the exact scenarios. Here's think about, you know, humanity is that it has lived many, many lives. And the same scenarios have repeated multiple, multiple times. And a lot of them are happening at the same time right now. How about instead of my PhD, part of it was complex systems. And one of the things about complex systems is that it humbles you. Whatever you think is true is probably not true. So you have two ways of dealing with that. One is you say, I am smart and I know exactly what is right and wrong and blah, da da da da. And try to
Starting point is 00:04:30 kind of approach you that way. The second one is just be humble. So look at, okay, so if I push this button, let's say we go, we become socialist, okay? What happens? And one, instead of trying to go right and wrong, how about I go and look at history and examples of this and try to collect data and try to actually have an informed opinion? So, so it's, it's, it's, but Alex, you understand, it just has never been implemented correctly. Yeah. It's democratic, it's democratic socialist.
Starting point is 00:05:06 That's the one that hasn't been done accurately yet. We just haven't tried that version yet. Dude, I told you I left San Francisco for a reason. Unfortunately, it followed up. I used to, you know, one of the things I, even though New York is, it got some things, a ton of things about it that I don't appreciate, you know. Um, I always felt insulated, because of New York City.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I was like, you know what, at the end of the day, there's a lot of greedy motherfuckers down there. And I love that because I know they're gonna keep things pushing in the right direction, right? They wanna make money. And yeah, maybe they take a little too much from themselves once in a while, but I'm okay with that
Starting point is 00:05:47 because they're always pushing us towards prosperity, towards growth, towards technological innovation, and all of that comes down. And you can go get as much of it as you want as hard as you're willing to work, et cetera, okay. but now we got this Montami guy. And I'm watching, like, this isn't like Fox News spinning, like literally what, like he's on social media with the camera at his face saying shit
Starting point is 00:06:16 that like is straight out of Mao, Stalin, I mean, Hugo Schott, I mean, it's like he's verbatim saying the same shit except at the end he smiles and goes, but I'm a democratic socialist. So that makes it okay. And you got all these morons behind him chanting his name. And you're like, one Google search, one chat GPT or Claude or whatever stupid. One. And you literally, he's reading verbatim.
Starting point is 00:06:44 It's the same shit. We're going to give you all this free stuff, except he just said the other day, he wants to start capturing IP. Yes. Not just, not just repatriating a property. He wants to start capturing IP, which means you literally can. can't create a single thing in the city limits without him owning a piece of it. Yes. It's fucking bananas.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's bananas. Ludicrous. Yeah, but I tell you something funny about Mamdani. So when he started running, I have friends in New York. They said, oh, it's a joke. He's not going to win. I'm like, watch. He's going to win.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And I really think he's going to win. And again, look at Bolshevik revolution. Look at Mao Zedong. Look at Venezuela. It actually, what it is, I think humanity goes through these waves. And unfortunately, in parts of this great country, we're going through that exact scenario where that populist message doesn't matter how many times in history. It has played out disastrously.
Starting point is 00:07:48 People are unable in masses, unable to actually put two and two together. So they're like, yeah, free grocery stores. I'm like, great. that is it's like people fall for that so it and people will fall for that
Starting point is 00:08:04 I really think he's going to win I think he's going to win too I absolutely think he's going to win I have a question for you here so I like I'm 100% willing to talk
Starting point is 00:08:17 about politics right because I and there's a whole bunch of reasons for that I'd say the two biggest are one politics directly impact my financial and lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So I want to have conversations and understand who's around me and where they are. We don't have to get into major debates, but I at least want to understand where your head is at. And the second is the psychology of how political messages are spread
Starting point is 00:08:43 relates so closely to how business messages and movements are spread. And it's so incredibly important to understand. And here's where my question comes in. And there's a few other reasons as well, but here's where my question comes in. So many,
Starting point is 00:08:57 people that I do business with or that I work with, not my close circle because, you know, obviously they wouldn't be in your inner circle of people if you weren't willing to have these kind of depths of conversations. But so many people I bump into, they're like afraid to talk about politics or mix politics in any way with business for a whole myriad of fears. And I can't get past that anymore. Like I feel like the reason we're here today is because I was in a mastermind, 60 people in the room, and the topic of politics came up. And I stood up and I said,
Starting point is 00:09:35 I think it is cowardice to play this. I don't talk about politics thing in business. I think that's pure cowardice. And you should have, it was like, dude, you would have thought that I just ripped the biggest fart in the middle of Catholic Mass ever. I mean, it was like everyone was aghast at the fact that I would say that I thought it was cowardice.
Starting point is 00:09:55 and it sparked this incredible debate that really didn't have a, we couldn't come to a conclusion. So, but the general sense was, people are very, very nervous, incredibly nervous and scared about talking about politics in any way as it relates to business. Like, one, do you think that that's a good thing
Starting point is 00:10:19 and a good business practice? And two, like, how do you handle politics and political conversations in these topics because for who I do business with, it's incredibly important to me, at least to know where your head is that. I don't have to agree with everything. It's important. Yes. And I can tell you from personal experience. So I've always been, you know, you can call me a right, you know, Republican or I call myself a libertarian person. I believe in individual liberty and, you know, the right of individuals to build and prosper and own property and provide for their family and all that.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I immigrated to America for that reason. Okay, I came from a totalitarian country and I came here because I read stories of George Washington and Alexander Hamilton's Federalist paper and stuff like that. So to me that is absolutely
Starting point is 00:11:12 in the core. And I believe America is a very unique country in that sense. However, I did not myself talk openly about politics for years because it does hurt, especially living in San Francisco, it does hurt
Starting point is 00:11:28 your ability to conduct business, people sort of shun you and they are like, you know, you don't get, like, they, you kind of get gray balled to put it mildly. But something switched. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:11:44 actually business, because look, end of the day, I will survive because inside my head, my skull, I'm a free person. So you can put me in Venezuela, in the ghettos of Venezuela, in a totally dictatorial country, I'll be free inside my skull and I'm fine. The thing that switched, flipped the switch for me was actually having kids. So, and once I had kids, I realized, look, I may be able to live and survive in any scenario.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I don't really care. But do I want my kids to grow up in a completely, like, totalitarian I wouldn't say we are like Mao Zedong level, but we were actually going in that direction a little bit, especially COVID opened my eyes. I'm like, do I want to live in a country? So I started talking about it myself after years of being an entrepreneur. Essentially after COVID, I'm like, this, I don't want my kids to have their individual rights and liberties being taken away by the country, by the government. And that's the whole purpose. That's why we have First Amendment, Second Amendment.
Starting point is 00:12:55 They have all these things that limit the level of government involvement in our lives. And that's why we have been a prosperous country because all the founding fathers, they were on board. They came. The holidays are here, and that means it's the most wonderful time of the year to save with Rackaton. Use Racketon to stack cash back from your favorite stores on top of holiday sales. That's savings on savings. With Racketon, you can get cash back on gifts for everyone on your list. From toys for the kids to kitchen gear for the person who loves to cook,
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Starting point is 00:14:01 Download the app or install the browser extension. That's R-A-K-U-T-E-N. Terms and conditions apply. Rejected the concept of a strong totalitarian government, and that's why they did what they did. So it's like, I got to do it for my kids. In other words, you said, you know, I need to do it for business and stuff, and I get it, and I agree with you. To me, it's even one level more personal.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I don't know if you have kids or not. But yeah. So for me, it is like, I don't want my kids to grow up in that country. So, yeah, that was a deal breaker. I'm like, now I'm going to talk. So I completely agree. And, you know, I guess. The context of the question was I feel like people use business as an excuse.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I actually share 100% your reason for being vocal. I just don't think I'm willing to accept the consequences. Any consequences that may come with someone not doing business with me because they disagree with me politically. I've just accepted. And I just I struggle with why so many people, like I just struggle with this and I'll give you another example so I just did a speaking gig
Starting point is 00:15:27 yesterday I had a keynote yesterday and the night before we went out for dinner and a couple beers with the people that were organizing it and they brought in some you know some of the VIPs from the event you know standard kind of keynote thing and it was great and the guy who brought me into the event he and I start talking about some of the crazy shit that's going on in schools right now to get to your kids thing
Starting point is 00:15:50 yes Living in New York, I shared with him that while my kids go to private Christian school, for all the reasons that I'm about to explain, you know, I would take on 10 jobs if I needed to to pay for this private school to not go. Because on day one, there were my best friend or my older son's best friend, 6th grade. He had two furries, four lesbians. And the teacher said, your pronouns. and your gender identity will be kept 100% secret
Starting point is 00:16:26 from your parents and I have no obligation to tell them. So whatever you tell me to call you, whether it's dog or whatever, is completely acceptable. That's day one. That's the home room day one public school, New York. That's insane. Okay, so what's funny is, all these people that I could tell were like, kind of like ears up down here,
Starting point is 00:16:48 as soon as the kid stuff, they all came down, and then it became and all like, this is absolutely crazy. How do we deal with this? Now they all like opened up. So my point saying that is I feel like when individuals like you, like me, people who have platforms, people who have thought through these things at a deep level, it's almost become an obligation for us to share our ideas to give others permission to to kind of at least engage in some way.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Does that make sense? It does and you're right. So I think permission. And here's another way to think about it. Again, it's not left versus right. People who have self-made, egocentric belief systems. They're like, I think this needs to be blah, blah, blah, whatever is it. They are actually the ones who are more likely to be vocal about their opinions than people who think through things, okay?
Starting point is 00:17:42 Pragmatic people. And that creates actually a problem. The problem is pragmatic people. They're all like, you know, they're reasonable people and they're thinking. thinking, doing cost-benefit analysis, and they're like, well, do I really want to offend people, blah, blah, blah, and therefore they're quiet, and these, the minority with crazy egocentric ideas are louder. So even though they're smaller, they have a larger platform, and it feels like to, even politicians
Starting point is 00:18:11 are like, oh, I got to appeal to the base, you know, that's what they do. Their only job is to be elected. it. So they listen to the loud minority more than the silent majority who are practical, reasonable people. So you're right, if you want change, the vast majority of pragmatic, logical people who actually look at data and history and examples and like create like common sense arguments. We want them to be louder because there are more of us. And we are the, we should be the base, not the loud few people who have these. crazy ideas and they want to shove it down our throats. So I agree with you. It's like it's essentially
Starting point is 00:18:53 and people with a platform is doubly as important, which is why last year pretty much I went, started talking about politics for the first time on my Instagram and Facebook. I have a lot of followers and I got a lot of hate for it. It was painful actually. But I 100% stand by what I said. and it was totally worth it. And I encourage more people to do it. The term used is actually the exact right term, permission structure. So if people with a platform who have a lot more to lose risk talking about what is really common sense, more people who are pragmatic, they stand up and are like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'm going to talk about it too. So we want to amplify the voice of the pragmatic good people. And yes, people with a platform are doubly responsible. to talk about it. That's why I started talking about it after years of being silent about it. And, you know, now we're coming in and you wrote this book, The Conqueror's Code, and we have AI coming into these conversations and we, you know, just seeing some of the early nonsense that SOAR is creating and these different video platforms. And I mean, the sombrero is just amazing. You know what I mean? Like you have all this, you know, you've Chuck Schumer talking,
Starting point is 00:20:15 but which is obviously AI with the, you know, Gene Jeffries with the Subbride and you're like, you're looking at this and you're seeing these kind of memes come out of the White House and we live in this completely different age of understanding where we get our information. So being someone who has built so many companies, NASA, you know, you've worked, you know, partner with Ty Lopez, you know, one of the best markers of all time. You have this amazing platform. and now you've written this book and seeing AI coming, like, where do people get,
Starting point is 00:20:52 let me frame that question better. How do we, how do people trust the sources or maybe what are the filters they need to use to find the sources that they can trust when they're starting to make their own decisions, right? Just like you said, we need to start being pragmatic, thinking through these things. And I say, okay, Alex, I absolutely agree with you. I want to start being more thoughtful in my opinions. But now I'm seeing the White House post AI generated memes.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I have, you know, my favorite marketing thought leader is now talking about, you know, transgender issues and how the hell do I sort do all this to start to get to the actual truth? Yeah. The answer is my answer. Look in history, which is why I love history. Because it's sort of, it's macro. So you go back and you say this. no two scenarios are exactly the same,
Starting point is 00:21:44 but the same themes repeat themselves over and over again. I go back in history. That's why I read a lot of biographies and history, because opinion books are great, but more importantly, I'm like, what actually happened in the past, and what was the outcome? Okay?
Starting point is 00:22:01 And that, to me, is the ultimate way to predict what's the best course of action to take. Like I told you, like, read biographies from modern day people like Ilam Musk. I read his book line by line. Every email he sent, very few books I read like that. So I read it line by line. Because I know the outcome.
Starting point is 00:22:25 The guy has made these massive companies that are every single one of them. All these people who hate on him, I'm like, all of you combined cannot do one of his ventures. all of you combined, yet you have the audacity to question his method to the madness. Instead, you've got to go read his method to the madness, and even if you want to use it for a different purpose,
Starting point is 00:22:51 even if you want to use it for your own whatever agenda it is, you cannot argue with the success of his method to the madness, so his ultimate arrogance to not even pay attention to it, okay, and completely dismiss it. The same is true in history. That's why that book is about history. Look at the
Starting point is 00:23:06 great conquerors. Look at Alexander the Great. Look at things that went right and wrong. Look at Julius Caesar. Look at, you know, Mehmet II who used like Canon for the first time to conquer Constantinople for the first time. And you just read it's mind-bending the similarities of those days like Roman Empire being a great example to the current day that we live in and how the Republic fell and it's just like it's a, it's an amazing thing to read. And I encourage people, you want to cut through noise? Look at history.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It's like, that's an example. And everything that people argue about, I say, well, believe it or not, this has happened in the history before. And you can ask Chat Chupit, what are the historical examples of this particular scenario? And then look at what happened there. And it tells you, we have not changed that. much. People think, oh, no, this is new. Yeah, the tools of the warfare has changed. But it also changed throughout history, like, you know, gunpowder, cannon, you know, electronic warfare,
Starting point is 00:24:20 navies, like, you name it. Atomic bomb, there's a good documentary about that on Netflix, how it panned out. And you look at how these new technologies like changed everything. And it's like, it's just another wave of that, a new technological advantage, and go back in history, look what has happened before, probably happens again. All these things that you say like brainwashing kids in school, by the way, happen in the Roman Empire. So it's like towards the end, when the Roman Empire, after Roman Republic, there was Roman Empire, towards the end, you can see the echo of what is happening in our country today
Starting point is 00:24:59 at the end of Roman Empire, exactly, the Western Roman Empire. Exactly. It's like all these things that we feel are new. Hedonism. Like people just completely, you know, doing whatever they want. And like the destruction of the family unit, all these has happened in the Roman Empire. You just like see the echo of history happening again. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I'll tell you what woke me up to this. And I'm looking for the quote. There's a great quote. Something like if you don't want your son to be a Roman, don't, don't let him be taught by Romans or something. I'm, I'm butchering the quote, but the whole idea, it's exactly what you said to the point of like,
Starting point is 00:25:42 the indoctrination of our youth. It's like, if you don't want your kid to believe things like a man can be a woman or that, you know, Sally in sixth grade is actually a dog and should be taking dumps in a litter box in the back of the classroom, then don't send them to a school where that is accepted. Exactly. Right?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, these kind of things. Well, I'll tell you what. woke me up to the history was, and it seems to have died down a little recently, but the Winston Churchill was the bad guy in World War II argument that was going around for a while. At first I was like, this just sounds like some stupid meme. And then I saw like Constantine Kissin address it on trigonometry. It's a podcast that I really like. I don't know if you're familiar with that one. But he started addressing him like, oh my God, this is actually like a widespread idea that people are perpetuating.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Like, you, you have not read a single word of history from that time if you are positioning Winston Churchill as the bad guy. Now, if you want to make a full spectrum argument, was he a perfect human? Certainly not. And he made plenty of bad decisions. But those were bad decisions. As bombs are being dropped on his head while, while his people are dying in the streets from the, from the Blitzkrieg, he's trying to make the best decisions.
Starting point is 00:27:00 decisions he can with the information he has and yeah a couple of them didn't go the way that he wanted and now we're going to position him as the bad guy like like we've you've lost touch with history if that's an argument that you're willing to make and and I know that the guy that ultimately that was started off of that wasn't actually the argument he was made he was taken out of context I get all that part but but it it just hit me how hard we have lost touch and then I was talking to a friend of mine who you know is is a good dude tends to skew a little more left but in general a good dude and he made this off the cuff comment that blew me away it was something like he was referencing the early 1900s as if they were archaic like neanderthals you know you know drumming on wood and and barely could understand fire and i was like they're us bro like like you don't those are us they're they are no different than we they're in the same exact thoughts we're having right now they were having right now they were having back then so like you're you're trying to because maybe they didn't have cell phones you're
Starting point is 00:28:06 somehow thinking that they're less sophisticated of human beings or they didn't not dealing with the same emotional pain that we are like are you fucking crazy half of them would go days without eating you know what I mean like when's last time you went three days without eating because you couldn't get a job down at the dock that day right or the bread line ran out of bread and you just didn't eat like when's last time that happened for you so like we we we just have this whole idea of the end of history that was perpetuated around postmodern liberalism, it is such a cancer to our methodology and to how we operate on a day-to-day basis that I don't know how to remedy that idea besides reading, but how do you spread that to the masses?
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Starting point is 00:30:06 most believe are impossible. This is the way. It's post-modernism, that's the main issue. It's like they think us as humans are very different and now somehow we are more advanced and grew IQ points or something. Not true. We are the same biological systems, organisms.
Starting point is 00:30:34 We live back then that we are now. And that has been the case through the recorded history. Okay. So the human that lived during ancient Egypt until now, we have changed very little as like actual human species. So all those arguments are come from a place of arrogance. That's kind of what I'm saying. It's like I am such an evolved human that I am not even comparable and I have the right to judge that person, even though that person lived like hundreds, 200,000 years ago. and that person did this thing that according to my postmodern values, like they're not, they're not correct.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Therefore, I'm going to judge that person. I am like, okay, that literally comes from the place of ego and arrogance. But here's the good news. There aren't that many of them. They just happen to have very high conviction because high ego people, people with a large ego are by definition louder. So it comes from the position of ego and these are just loud people and their minority. The problem that you pointed out, however, is correct.
Starting point is 00:31:47 People who are not like that are in general tend to be quieter. And because of that, it feels like those other people. And also the other thing that happens is that our social behavior is contagious. So loud people, even though I say there are, minority because the message is constantly repeated and repeated and repeated it actually rubs on people okay just like i say broke energy is contagious you know depressed energy is contagious happy energy is contagious it's it's the same thing so these people are kind of also rubbing and perpetuating these ideas by just
Starting point is 00:32:27 pure repetition and being loud so so and people get influenced by that that has happened also throughout history. So a few people who were loud, they pushed really terrible ideas on people, Bolshevik Revolution being the case in point. So I, most people were not on board with Bolshevik Revolution. It was a very unpopular move at the beginning. But then these people were loud and like repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat the message. And over time, like people are like, ah, these people, you know, combination of them winning a little bit and then hearing the message multiple times, people get influenced just through the fact of repetitively hearing a message.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So I think the solution is exactly what you said earlier, which is people that are grounded, maybe that's the best term I can use, people that are grounded in reality and common sense and all that, they need to be louder because the gut reaction when I see a bunch of crazy people saying crazy stuff is for me to say, okay, I'm going to go take my ball and go play somewhere else. That's gut reaction, okay? If we do that, and if
Starting point is 00:33:41 all of us do that, repeatedly and for long enough, there will be no place to go. So you said it's our duty, yes, it is our duty. If we care about the next generation, it is our duty to stand our ground, even though it is counterintuitive
Starting point is 00:33:58 and a pragmatic person who wants to make a living and build a business or what have you. The pragmatic answer is take your ball and go play somewhere else, which is why I left San Francisco. Yeah. But if all of us do that all the time for long enough, there will be no other place for us take our ball to go and play it. That's essentially what happened throughout all these crazy revolutions
Starting point is 00:34:23 that has happened over the years. Yeah. I want to transition a little bit to entrepreneurship. And you're a serial entrepreneur, very successful, spend a lot of time with successful entrepreneurs. So taking this concept of we need to be louder or at least more convicted in our convictions to turn a terrible phrase. How do we, like it feels today like entrepreneurship was, it feels very chaotic. I get a lot of questions. People ask me a lot of questions, and some of them I don't have the answers, which is why I love having individuals like yourself on.
Starting point is 00:35:07 There's so much hitting us. Build start your own AI through lovable. Just type your idea and everything gets built and then, you know, or is it more like, you know, if AI is going to be everywhere, should I be out Cody Sanchez and everything and buying plumbing businesses? And, you know, like, I feel I get a lot of questions from people who kind of see what's coming. understand that AI is absolutely coming down the pipe. They're unsure of what that means, but they see it and believe it's going to be a bigger part of life. They see companies across the board, including in my own home industry, which is the insurance industry.
Starting point is 00:35:42 You know, one of our largest organizations in our industry just announced they're dropping 4,000 people. And that kind of layoffs don't happen in insurance. And they actually referenced automation in AI as one of the reasons why they're dropping 4,000 people. So I think a lot of people see this trend. And they're like, okay, I want to own my own destiny, whatever that looks like. But where before it was, okay, I could go small business, I could go trade or tech. We're really the big entrepreneurial veins. It feels so fragmented and distracting.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And there's so many different people trying to push their version of entrepreneurship on. People don't know where to go. So I know that's a very broad idea so you can take it wherever you want. but how do these individuals who have this spirit who want to go down this path but just simply feel like they have so much hitting them in the face they don't know what to do where do they start what do they start thinking about yeah so again i'm going to go back to history and i'm going to work my way to today so if you look at the best entrepreneurs of all of all time they have put a huge large just volume body of workout go from leonardo the
Starting point is 00:36:57 Vinci to Picasso, you know, the number of artwork he did, to Thomas Edison, to Il-Lam Musk. They all had, they just put a huge body of work out. So the overall, overall message that I want to tell people is that successful people are idea machines. Successful people are idea machines. They just constantly put out a huge amount of work. Now, there's a catch with that. The catch is you can't have a lot of ideas,
Starting point is 00:37:35 but now don't have execution abilities, so you can't execute on any of your ideas, which meant the world of like super successful entrepreneurs was limited with people that not only were idea machines, but they were also really good execution machines. Now, the scale has, tipped a little bit now with AI. So, you know, we build our product, for example, famous.a.I is a builder. It's like idea to business. So that means more people can
Starting point is 00:38:06 turn their ideas into businesses and products with AI, which means, which means that history has disproportionately rewarded high idea machines essentially, but they also had to have great execution skill. The importance of execution skill has dropped a little bit. It requires less capital. It requires less time. It requires less resources, people. And you can have more ideas and lack a little bit in the sense of resources, but it's still win. So, whatever history has, history has rewarded idea machines is going to be even more. Okay. And one of the things that I heard like, you know, common entrepreneurship advice is that do one thing and do it right. That common, the worst pieces of advice are the ones that sound good but are not true.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Okay. So I tell people this, I'm like, look, that is designed for people who don't have great execution skill and they could not execute many, many ideas. So they had to spend a lot of time executing on one idea in those scenarios, it made sense. with AI, that advice is actually not that good. The correct advice is to revert to become the Thomas Edison, Elon Musk, you know, Picasso, you pick, you know, Vanderbilt, like all these great Henry Ford, like all these great industrialists of our generation, you read their biography. They're like idea machines. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So I'm like, okay, go to that and use AI, lean on AI for execution. So my answer is, just like I do, and I don't say anything that I don't do myself. So when we started the company in Famous Labs, I didn't know exactly what it was going to build. I essentially, and I did that, by the way, back when I became an entrepreneur for the first time in 2007, I didn't start my first company was an online dating app, but it didn't start as an online dating app. I started an app studio. And we were launching apps, we launched quizzes, games, stuff like that, until online dating hit. And then we followed attraction, and we doubled down, triple down.
Starting point is 00:40:17 on that. So, but I, to do that, I had to cash out my 401k at the beginning, pay all the penalties, put all my money in it, I wasn't married, I didn't have kids, you know, and, and I, and then I raised capital in Silicon Valley, and I built, I had to do that, required a lot of resources, and also, like, now you can execute the same method with less, way less resources with AI. So the good news is if you are an idea machine today and you don't have the execution abilities of Thomas Edison, okay? You're given a gift, which is AI essentially helping you build and execute. So you can mope about, you know, jobs being lost due to AI,
Starting point is 00:41:05 but you can also, you know, say, hey, maybe God has a different plan for me and you say maybe it have, even if you get laid off because of AI, maybe that's part of the plan. Maybe you, maybe that is, that is in your future. It's forcing your hand to have all these ideas that you had over the years did not execute. List them and knock them out one by one with AI.
Starting point is 00:41:32 And we can talk about how to do that, but it's like essentially knock them out one by one until you have a winning idea. And I tell you one thing as an, entrepreneur, I was actually going to post about on Instagram. I've launched 100 plus products in my entrepreneurial life. It's like probably a couple hundred. Nothing beats the dopamine hit of working on a product and launching it and getting traction from the market. Nothing. And it is, to me, it's an opportunity for all those people, instead of thinking, okay, the grand scheme, macro level,
Starting point is 00:42:07 what is happening and all that, I'm like, focus on you. What are your ideas? What are your ideas? Are you the next Thomas Edison, Elon, you know, Picasso? Are you a mini version of that? Okay? Do you have just like ideas? If you have ideas, you're handed a gift. Just list them out and this is the time. Execute them super fast one by one by one.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Go to market. You will find a winner if you stay at it for long enough. So instead of being confused and resentful, you know, dazzled, whatever, is instead just be like, okay, what has worked in the past? A lot of ideas, people who had a lot of ideas. Do I have the ability to execute them? The answer is yes. Nowadays, it's the easiest it has been throughout history to execute ideas.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So just sit, write your ideas, unconfuse yourself, okay? It's like very important. Like ignore the noise, unconfuse yourself. Write down your ideas one by one. and knocked them out one a week. So, and you will find traction if you do it enough number of times. So that's kind of my high-level advice. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:43:21 You know, James Altucher pitches this 10 ideas a day, right? So, like, instead of journaling in the morning or whatever, he writes down 10 ideas for something every, every day. And just 10 ideas, 10 ideas, 10 ideas. And his whole thing is if you come up with, you know, 70 ideas a week, and one of those ideas might actually be good. And if you do that every day, now it's 300 ideas in a month. And now all of a sudden, you're just the pure coming up with this ideas
Starting point is 00:43:51 and making that part of how your brain works. You start to see ideas, et cetera. So it's just the practice of this. It's a practice. The idea machine. Yeah. And let me add something to that. I think it's useful.
Starting point is 00:44:02 So, Ryan, I bet a lot of your audience, they're like, oh, I have some ideas, but I don't have enough good ideas and stuff like that. Here's the truth. Nobody knows what a good idea is. Nobody knows. So it's a game of numbers. Now, I give you even better news. Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase,
Starting point is 00:44:24 he has a great clip. Maybe you can link to it at some point. He says, action produces information. And the best thing you can do is to act to produce information and then use that information to come up with your next move.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Meaning, instead of sitting in vacuum and coming up with ideas and then expecting your brain, your unexercised, unfit brain. Hopefully I'm not insulting your audience by that. But people who have not done that in mass, it's kind of like going to the gym for the first time. So your brain is not fine-tuned, which is perfectly fine. But you've got to start somewhere. You know, you go to the gym for the first time.
Starting point is 00:45:03 You push some weight, and it's like you're all sore and you're not doing things right. You start. And then that action of starting with ideas and actually hitting the market, meaning acting on the idea, the act of implementing the idea itself gives you new ideas. So that's the good news. You don't have to come up with all those 300 ideas in one shot. You just need to create with a few, one, actually, and just go to the market. And when you go to the market, you get feedback.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And that information produces, that action produces information that it can. used to formulate new ideas. That is what I'm saying. Like a lot of people are like, oh, I don't have a perfect idea. Let me find for the perfect idea. That's one category of problems people have. But the answer to that is the antidote to that is very simple. Whatever you have, act on it. And the market will give you your next idea. Yeah, I love that. It's funny. I had a conversation with my son the other day. He did really poorly on a, they call it ELA today. I guess it's like reading in English. We would have called it English, ELA, a test.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And he was confused as to why he, you know, and he was frustrated and he was mad. And he does pretty well in school and just, you know, I said, bro, wins and lessons. Like, yeah, two days ago, you sucked at sentence fragments, right? But now you know them better. Like, you didn't really fail because now if you were to take that test again, you know what a sentence fragment is versus, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:31 that was what the test was on or whatever. And I was like, wins and lessons, man. And like it was almost like saying wins and lesses instead of like I failed the test. It like loosened his body up. I like could see his shoulders like loosen. And then all of a sudden I watched his, you know, because before when I was kind of helping him with the ones he got wrong, I can tell he had the wall up. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Dad, you know, shut the fuck up, dad wall. And then like when I said, I looked at him and I go, dude, who kids? You're freaking in sixth grade. I was like, so what? you did bad on one ELA test in sixth grade. Like now you're, what, I go with wins and lesses. And then he started listening. And I think that that's exactly what I hear you saying, right?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Is like even if you have an idea and it's not the home run idea, the action that you take in executing it and maybe figuring out that it's not the great idea, their big idea, you're going to learn a ton of stuff just in that action that then the next idea, you'll be able to jump two or three steps. And then maybe that one's not the best one. And then you can jump four or five steps because you keep learning. a little more until you get to the one that actually hits. Is that that sounds to be based on.
Starting point is 00:47:36 100% what I'm saying. I mean, look at even like, I mean, I use Picasso. Look at early work of Picasso versus towards the end of his career. Picasso is not one Picasso. It's like people don't, people think people come out of the box all train and like, no. All of us are work in progress. All of us are a work in progress.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So the thing, the key word. there is progress. So, and progress comes from action. Like, okay, I take a step, but take the step today so you can take more steps. That's what I think a lot of people are missing. They're trying to calculate the exact right step that takes them to the exact destination. And I'm like, bro, you don't even know where you're going. It's like no one knows where you're going to end up. In fact, I would argue there are very few companies that the product that they have today is what was conceived at the point of conception of the company. It's like, you say company is like zigzag, zigzag, zigzag, zigzag, let me random walk my way towards the destination. And it's natural and there's nothing to be ashamed about.
Starting point is 00:48:52 What I think people should be embarrassed about is lack of taking the steps, meaning lack of action. that is unforgivable. But if you're taking steps, we're all humans and we all don't know exactly what we're doing and we all learn. I still to this day, I launch products and I don't know if they are going to take off or not.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And I'm like 200 reps under me. Okay? I still my hit rate, I tell you, under Famous Labs, I've launched 20 plus products in the past two years. Seven of them are even alive. Okay? So my hit rate is low.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And I've done it like 200 times. It's fine. Your hit rate is going to be low. So what? So we just take the swings, man. Take the swings. It's just like, do you just do it. I would like to, for break dance, you framed famous AI as a product builder, right?
Starting point is 00:49:48 Talk me through that because I think, like, I've gotten a lot of questions, particularly about, like, lovable and these, these app builders and stuff. And I think for people who haven't done the full dive into AI yet and really spent that time, they, they, it's hard to conceive what that actually looks like. Like, what do I, if I, if I'm coming to famous AI, right, I, what, what, what do I have to have prepared in my mind to bring to the tool to start to, to, to actually get a product or to get an app or to get something out into the market? Like, yeah, do I have to have a fully baked idea and the ability to code? is it like what do I have to bring to the product to actually make it happen? No ability to code. So that is definitely, I am not building for coders.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'm building for a normal person who's not a coder. There are a ton of coder tools. We are building for the general everybody entrepreneur, essentially. I'm building for myself when I started. So the way I think about it is that everyone in the market is going after code builders, like product builders. I don't think that's what people need. People need a business builder.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So they want to, they have the overall idea. I want to start a dating company for people over 40, okay? Or I want to start a dating company for people who have kids, okay? Or I want to start whatever, a diet and nutrition company that does my own diet formula. So you have to have that overall idea. And the idea here is that AI implements and, massages your idea and gets it as close to market ready, not writes code. Yes, it does write code, but it's trained to create products that are market ready. For example, you know, I teach, like,
Starting point is 00:51:41 you know, how to build landing pages for your product that actually articulate the value proposition, and then you put a hook on top, like emotional hook, and then explain our video, call to action, what's called benefit stack, objection overcoming. Like, I have like, anatomy of what actually makes a product actually sell because end of the day nobody's writing code bro they want to build a business that have customers so so we trained it so i know it i knows not just write code and create product you come with the idea it builds the first iteration of it it takes about 12 minutes and it's free to start and you essentially it's kind of like brings your idea to life.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Then you look at that. And that's very important. That first, you know, the first version of the product that comes out of just plain English saying, hey, I want to build a keto diet thing that does this and that and tracks my carb intake. So it won't generate the whole thing in one shot because it's not even, it might deviate significantly
Starting point is 00:52:53 from what you had in mind. But it creates an impressive, mock with data put in so you see what it's going to look like. And the reason for that is I want to punch you in the face. And I want to say here, this is how close you are to seeing your idea come to reality. And trust me, it's once people see their idea somewhat materialized, they are 100 times more motivated to go through the follow-up motions, actually make it work ready. And in the process, AI is constantly thinking about the marketability of
Starting point is 00:53:33 your idea. So it's using the language that actually sells your product emotionally. It builds a landing page of your product, right? It builds the app with like low friction. So it's like the things that we do that I, that I learned from years of building consumer products. I'm like, I know these things need to be in it. So I codified. So the idea, the main purpose of my company, We have multiple products, but the main purpose of my company is to give, I think of established companies as the Goliath and I think of the little guy as David. I'm like, I want to give them the slingshot that allows a little guy to take out the big guy. So that's my entire purpose.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And that's not cogeneration. It's part of it, but it's not code generation. It is the asymmetric. warfare tool that allows you to actually look like a billion dollar company. So if you're competing with fitness pal, I want your product to look, feel, be as production ready, marketing ready as fitness pal. So it looks like a billion dollar company. And then David has a chance against a Goliath.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So that's the main idea. And I think this is when I go back to idea machines. The idea here is you come with idea, like you wrote bullet points. And people do it differently, by the way. Some people go, chat ChupD is trained on famous. It knows what famous AI is. So you can actually ask FAMS AI and build, chat UPT, I'm building this on FAMNSI. It gives you a detailed prompt and you can come with a fully fleshed out vision.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And some people do that. They put a really long prompt with all the details. But I, it's also designed for people who just want to put the idea in because I want people to get started. I'm like, put a one sentence about your idea. see what it creates and then iterate on that. So we handle both scenarios essentially. And like I said, the differentiation, the way I think about it is that all these software companies are getting the intent of the entrepreneur wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:39 They think of it as, oh, we generate code for them. I'm like, nobody cares. You want to build a product that actually user can go to market with. That's the main difference I'm focused on. Yeah, I love it. And I will say that my, I, my question is slightly selfish because I have been idea machining, a lot lately on, on some things. And I was thinking into, when, when Open AI launched Agent Builder, right?
Starting point is 00:56:13 And I was mostly just peppering ChatGBT BT about Agent Builder. Like I just wanted to learn about it. Because I missed the Dev Day or whatever thing. And I feel like going back and watching it. I was just getting the, and what was funny was Chad GBT started asking me like kind of what would I want to build with agent builder. And this idea, you couldn't do it all the way with that. But when I started giving it the idea that came to my mind, one, I was shocked at what idea like came immediately to the forefront of my brain, which felt very, I don't mean to be quite so big here, grandiose, but like a little divine.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And just so much like this idea was the first idea that came to my mind. And it's something that I've always wanted. And I was like, so I started talking to it. And it's, man, it's like, this. And you know, you got to connect all this shit. And I was like, I'm a sales and marketing leadership guy. Like I understand how technology works, but I can't make the technology do the things. and then I knew we were going to be talking
Starting point is 00:57:24 and I knew what this did and I was like at some point I'm spinning this conversation over to like how do I get my an idea out into the world because I'm never going to learn out of code I'm probably not even going to be able to do like all the crazy connectivity and the databases and like I don't know how to do that stuff
Starting point is 00:57:45 but even just the first step of how do you how do you start to validate this idea, see what it looks like, and actually see some functionality happening so you can take it to that next level. Like I wouldn't even know without that type of tool. And like this seems exactly, like famous AI seemed exactly like what I was looking for. And that's not just because you're on the show. I mean, I've been waiting to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I knew you're coming on. Yeah. But I think there are a lot of people like me who have ideas for an app or a tool or something that they could share or that they're really passionate about. And even if it was just a side hustle or a side quest, but they just get so stuck and how do I actually make it happen? I don't know a developer. I don't want to go on Fiverr because who do I trust or upwork or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And these tools can get you so far. So maybe where does it stop though? Like could I take this all the way to I'm selling an application that people could download or put on their phone or log into on a website or whatever. Like can I take it all the way there or like how far can I get? Because it seems like all the tools kind of stop at different places. Yeah. So the idea here is all the way. And we have a lot of people who are non-technical who have apps in the app store from our platform. In fact, one of the things that we went through great length pain, I should say. So for example, in some of the tools, you mentioned lovable,
Starting point is 00:59:17 Lovable does not build a mobile app. It's like iPhone Android app. We do. There are other tools that build iPhone Android apps. But what you need to do, the user needs to do, is to, once they build it, they need to download it, compile it on your computer. Which right there, I lost 95% of the population and then connected. So we went through insanity to have direct connections to App Store and Play Store so that the users do not have to download code and have a local, version compiled and then upload, it literally does it from the platform directly to iPhone and Android, as an example.
Starting point is 00:59:54 So I am going through, this is literally when I say, I am, you would be like literal great avatar for us. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the user who doesn't have an engineering team, doesn't know how code works, and also marketing. So it's like the whole spectrum. I want to go all the way from idea to walk you through all the way to have a, product market ready, and CRM, everything built in. Okay? And I'm literally going step by step, and I'm trying to remove all complexity, all complexity.
Starting point is 01:00:28 And obviously, no AI tool is perfect. So it's like as we go through it, I'm like every week we roll out new things, and I remove friction here. I remove friction there. I make this a little bit. Now our platform tests its own build. And it actually, if you build something, you see it like says, detected an error that or I tries to fix it. And it's like, it's like, because I don't want the user to even see a code error snippet and then say fix it.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I'm like, I remove that. AI should do that automatically. You should build its own test harness. And we are like literally going step by step by step by step. And I'm going to build the whole thing into it. So a normal person, my idea is that a normal person who doesn't have access to developers and engineers, but they have ideas and they have great business acumen. They have vision and great business acumen.
Starting point is 01:01:21 They should be able to execute the whole thing on our platform end to end. And that's where we are going. I'm really excited about it for that reason, exactly to enable people like you. It's like, I'm like, that idea, here's, I'm going to take two seconds to explain this. I think all of us are born with gifts in our brain. Your gift and mine are different.
Starting point is 01:01:43 It is, some of it, are born with, some of it is through the just reality of the life we live. You and I live very different lives. Because of that, we have these little gems in our brain. We are good at something. Everyone's good at something. I'd like to believe that. That little gem is hidden, tucked away inside a lot of people's brains because they do not have the ability to take it out, productize it, and sell it. So I'm like, my entire job, I work at it. I work every day is that to enable everybody to take that gem, which is different for everyone, it could be like mindfulness workshops, it could be whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:25 People have like insane skills. And you just take that and allow the user remove all the abstraction. You don't need a dev shop. You don't need a marketing agency. Abstract all of that. Abstract idea. Show it to the user. iterate with the user as a combined CTO, CMO, CMO.
Starting point is 01:02:45 you know, CRO, like all of those combined, and just work with the user to take that gift and polish it and put it out as a product out there in the market. That's my job. I love that. And guys, if you're listening and you have these ideas, this is why I was so excited to have Alex on the show because you guys have been pinging me, hit me on the side,
Starting point is 01:03:08 about what AI tools I'm using, and how do I do this, and how do I, like, all that stuff is great, these are the types of tools that are going to help you make money from your ideas and and make an impact, right? I mean, that's ultimately, you know, we all like to make money. I certainly love to make money as much as anybody. But man, that money spends a little nicer when it comes with a serious impact on the back end. I'll spend all the money. But the stuff that comes with impact, man, it really feels good.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And being able to get these ideas, like we shouldn't be handcuffed because you didn't take, you know, C++ plus, class in freaking college, that shouldn't handcuff you from getting your ideas to the market. Famous AI is a great way. I'm definitely going down this rabbit hole because this idea has been burning a hole in my brain. And, man, I'm still- You call the idea divine, by the way, it is divine. So I sometimes think hit me in such a weird way. I have no explanation for it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I mean, where did this idea come from? Divine is the good way to think about it. And honestly, it is a gift. Believe God or not, if you believe in God, it's a gift from God. If you don't, mother nature. So it's like gave you this gift. You have the option of ignoring it. But I really, I think everybody experiences you experience it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 I experienced it. I bet everybody experiences to a different degree that you're walking. And an idea hits you like a semi-truck. And you're like, that is an interesting. idea and do not waste it yeah so so on that and then we'll we can we'll wrap up here but on that this is this one's not opened yet but i started playing around with this uh tool uh it's called x note it's like one of these digital digitizing pens and i carry the small book this this one's not open the other one is but i started carrying this with me everywhere i go like my wallet for the
Starting point is 01:05:06 exact reason of you get these ideas or and sometimes it's like everyday shit like i need to go pick up something from the store, right? And I just blasted a notebook. And then it shows up in the phone, it becomes a task, and I get it done. And it's like capturing these divine moments, because I'm absolutely a believer 100%. Capturing these moments is just as important. And that's why I loved that we spent so much time on the idea machine, on the idea generation, because when these sparks hit you, I think a lot of people aren't listening.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Like we're not listening. You've got to open your heart, man. You got to open your heart. So it's like, habit out of listening to these moments to these things that happen and the stuff that and some of it's fucking crazy and that's okay. Right? But write it down anyways.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And then, you know, and maybe that thing seems crazy today. But six months or a year from now, that idea is not so crazy. You never know, right? Yes. Timing is just as important. So Alex, I appreciate the hell out of you, man. This has been tremendous. I can talk to you in a.
Starting point is 01:06:10 four hours. And I love it. I love Famous AI. So much that you've done has been so impactful. If people, besides Famous AI, if people want to get deeper into your world, follow what you're talking about. Where's the best place for them to do that? Instagram at Dr. Alex. Doctors is spelled out. So Dr. Alex. Yeah. Awesome. And guys, I'll have links to everything we discussed today in the show notes. So just scroll down, check it out. Appreciate the hell out of you, my man. Open invitation anytime you want to come back. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you.
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