Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley - Should We Prospect New Business During the Corona-pocalypse?

Episode Date: April 2, 2020

Spartan philosophy, built in the black-ops lab of business: https://www.findingpeak.comFinding Peak podcast: https://linktr.ee/ryan_hanleyThere has been a lot of discussion inside insurance circles about whether or not we should be prospecting, marketing and selling during the COVID-19 crisis. I say, Yes! Get more: https://ryanhanley.com/--Recommended Tools for GrowthOpusClip: #1 AI video clipping and editing tool: https://link.ryanhanley.com/opusRiverside: HD Podcast & Video Software | Free Recording & Editing: https://link.ryanhanley.com/riversideWhisperFlow: Never waste time typing on your keyboard again: https://link.ryanhanley.com/whisperflowCaptionsApp: One app for all your social media video creation: https://link.ryanhanley.com/captionsappGoHighLevel: It's time to take your business workflow to the Next Level: https://link.ryanhanley.com/gohighlevelPerspective.co: The #1 funnel builder for lead generation: https://link.ryanhanley.com/perspective--Episodes You Might Enjoy:From $2 Million Loss to World-Class Entrepreneur: https://lnk.to/delkFrom One Man Shop to $200M in Revenue: https://lnk.to/tommymelloIs Psilocybin the Gateway to Self-Mastery? https://lnk.to/80upZ9This show is part of the Unplugged Studios Network — the infrastructure layer for serious creators. 👉 Learn more at https://unpluggedstudios.fm.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Happy holidays. Want to give your host a gift? Consider subscribing, rating, and reviewing the show this holiday season. It really helps the show grow. From all of us at Believe, have a Merry Christmas, everyone, and a happy holiday. Hello everyone and welcome back to the show. Today is kind of a special episode, I guess you'd say. It is actually an episode of The Inside, which normally I release via YouTube video. And this time I decided I wanted to share the audio with you. So this is going to be a shorter episode. But I felt that there was some important questions. The video got quite a bit of run.

And I wanted to make sure that you, the podcast listeners, who may not have had a chance to watch the video. episode. Also got a chance to hear this and share your feedback on the topic. It's something I feel fairly passionate about, but I think there is some intrigue. I think there is some conversation that needs to be had. And I think that's cool. And there's been some via the video. And I hope there is some via the podcast. So with that, I want to get on to the episode. Guys, if you are not subscribed to this show, please subscribe wherever you're listening right now. Just hit the subscribe button and let, you know, just that way you get the newest episodes.

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So with that, let's get on to today. episode should we prospect new business during the corona apocalypse what up guys welcome back to the inside i'm happy to be back it has been a minute it's been five weeks actually um you can see i'm channeling my inner nick airs and matt and moly here for this late night session with the flat brim kind of cock-eyed that's how those good dudes do it uh i just look i look like a crazy person in a But I got a corona work from home chasing two goons around the house all day head and I figured I'd throw a hat on. So here's a deal. Like, you know, basically it has been a major grind for all of us, right?

I was grinding hard trying to launch a scratch agency, launch Rogue, had these big plans, going after large small commercial and middle market, working with David Carruthers and his program, I'm killing commercial, which is absolutely the balls, by the way. If you're interested in taking your commercial insurance game to the next level, check out killingcommercial.com. Talked David Carruthers. He's changed my whole mindset and what it means to be a CBK, a cold-blooded killer. And I am excited to get that part of my business going.

Right now, just like you, I'm in full scramed. mode right like i'm three full months into the business of insurance and i have not sold a policy yet so i always told you i'd be transparent i'm three full months in i'm three weeks of being like officially able to sell with appointments um and i haven't sold policy yet like everything i had in my pipeline has dried up everyone i've reached out to um has been uh just just nothing i've been nothing uh now i got some things that I'm working. I got some quotes in. Cyber has been an interesting thing, you know, because

I, you know, the day that I launched my business, Trump came out and started the lockdown. So it was just like, whack, day one, nothing. So this has just been wild. It's been wild. And look,

I'm blessed. My wife and I are good with our money. You know, she does well. I was smart about preparing for this this launching this business so it's not like you know it's not like we're on e it's not like we're even in trouble um you know i knew that there'd be some tough times i knew there'd be a ramp up period with the fact that i was going after um you know middle market commercial was going to be one of my targets you know because because carothers this program was a huge part of my strategy i mean that's

where i wanted to be that's the type of value provider i wanted to be and um i just i wanted you know I knew there was going to be a ramp-up to that. So, you know, I put plenty money away. So that's beside the point. But in full transparency, I have not sold the policy yet. So what's had to happen is a week into the coronavirus, like, I was in a pretty dark place. I mean, I started a business on the day of the lockdown. And look, there are many people who are laid off.

I mean, obviously, I'm not making any money either, but that feels a little different because it's kind of by choice to a certain extent than actually being laid off, which is terrible. I've had that happen to me twice, and it's not fun in any regard. It's a confidence shaker, for sure. So we want to be supporting everyone in our community who's going through that, without a doubt. Supporting our communities in general. Buy local beer, buy takeout food, help people, you know, whatever you can do, right?

Support your local hairdresser. No one's talking about hairdressers, but every single person who cuts hair, barbers and hairdressers, you know, they can't cut hair anymore, at least in New York. So my point in saying to all this is like, it's a crazy messed up time. And I'm not where I thought I was going to be at this point. But I guess what I wanted to share and what kind of drove me to do a video, to come do a video here after being gone for so long was some things that I've been hearing. out in the different Facebook groups and in Zoom chats and stuff about, you know,

is this really the right time to be marketing or selling? And I'm going to tell you, like, absolutely, like, yes, it is. Like, go get your business. You are in a position as an insurance professional that your business isn't shut down, right? And to just sit back and to play it safe right now, I think is absolutely the wrong move. Now, this is 100% true if you're in a position like me. Like, if you're a producer, if you don't own the agency

and you're not sitting on a big book of business, you need to go sell. You need to go be marketing. Like you have to, this is not a time to kind of pussyfoot around. Like, you need to go. You need to put it in gear and go forward. And the other part of that, and I apologize. I'm stumbling with my words.

It's late. And I just feel passionate about this. topic is that this is a terrible crisis, terrible, absolutely terrible crisis. And I don't mean this to sound callous in any way. But for your business and the future of your family and your life, this is an opportunity to step out front and be a leader, be a voice, separate your business from everyone else. And that can be through marketing, through sales. It could also be through community support, being a connector of people, helping, you know, know, giving to charity, donating your time.

If you're young and healthy and you feel confident, maybe putting yourself in a position that other people are unwilling or unable to do, you know, maybe taking on some exposure in order to let those who might be in other positions or maybe more vulnerable to the coronavirus, not have to put themselves in those positions. Like there are a million ways that you can step out front and get your personal brand and your business brand in front of people so that when all this crap is, over or at least we understand what the next iteration, what the new normal is going to look like, you've separated yourself from the pack. Because here's what most people are doing. Turtling.

Most people are turtling and making excuses. Well, no one wants to hear from me right now. Well, in some cases, that's true. But in many other cases, that's not true. You know what's absolutely killing it right now? Personal lines insurance. You know what I've pivoted road risk to? A hardcore personalized agency. We're going to be driving massive personalized revenue moving forward because that's the only thing that's moving right now. Yeah, you probably sign a couple of commercial accounts if you have a nice pipeline and people are still talking to you. But if you're coming in cold, that's just not happening.

It's not happening right now. I've tried it. And the few initial responses were enough of a test case to feel fairly confident that now is not the time to be cold, cold prospecting new business stuff. a new commercial business. But in personal lines, that's completely different. Because know what a family who's going through hardship could use some savings on their home and auto insurance.

You know what a family who maybe has some concerns about the future of just their life, they want to take control of them stuff, maybe helping them reposition their program so that it better fits their needs, maybe adjusting some coverages, maybe getting them an umbrella insurance if they didn't have one, maybe helping them with life insurance, maybe finally getting them to understand that they're, you know, you know, H-O-2 policy could be upgraded for, you know what I mean? I'm just talking at this point. But there's a million ways that you can be a value provider and drive business and help people

and not seem like a sleazy car salesman. Like, you're only a sleazy car salesman if you act like a sleazy car salesman. But if you believe that what you're doing actually helps people, now is the time to step forward. Now is the time to come out of the shadows. Start doing videos. Start helping people better understand their life. their life, geez, start to understand their insurance and how it impacts their life, right?

Like, this is our job. And I just, you know, I'm, I can't even tell you the, the rabbit holes that I've gone down to find places to generate business. Because you know what I'm not going to let do? I'm not going to let rogue risk fail. I'm not going to let that happen. So my, and my point in telling you that is not because any of you should care, because you should give two, flying craps about rogue risk. That's my business, right? That's my concern. What I'm telling you is you should not feel guilty for wanting to grow your business or at least wanting to sustain your business. Like, you should not feel guilty for that. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty for wanting to push because I believe now more than ever is the time to push. Because most people

will not do that. They'll be scared. They'll be nervous. They'll be turtling like everyone else. they'll just be the same way they always have, which is non-existent. And if you can step out front and with confidence and with caring and understanding for the people in your community, that can't be denied. That's what sticks in people's head, that you were there. And they may not even know what you do, but they'll know your face. They'll know the colors of your logo. They'll have an idea of what you believe in.

And there's just a million ways that you can skin that cat. So I wanted to give a big shout out to Austin Moorhead from Lava Automation too. Austin has been just a tremendous resource in helping me build out InfusionSoft, which is my marketing automation and CRM system. And I want to give a shout out to Rick Fox at Vertifor for helping me put together. Kuket Catalyst, PL Raider, are going to be the agency management system. rating system that I use and Rick, who's been a buddy of mine for a while, you know, helped me better understand that product, better understand what I was trying to do. And, you know, for,

for I think, I think a lot of really good reasons. I'm very happy with that decision and I'm very happy to be doing business with Rick because I like doing business with people that I like. And I think that QQ and PL Raider for me right now are absolutely the, the perfect. fit. So I'm happy about that decision. And I'm just excited for this next chapter. You know, I've pivoted to pushing cyber insurance. And I have, I have like six or seven cyber policies in the pipeline, which is cool. So hopefully next time I talk to you, I will have sold a policy. And and I've positioned, repositioned my business to personal lines and pivoted there, which were things I planned on doing six, 12 months from now that now I've just pushed forward because

like I said, I'm not going to let Rogue fail. And mid-market commercial right now for me is not an option because I've done zero prospecting up until this point. Zero, real prospecting. I had only been in business for a week, like I said. But I'm just, I'm excited to get going. I got cold emails going out. I've got 19-point automations on new leads.

I'm running Facebook ads, YouTube ads. I'm doing hard mail drops in various communities in the area. I'm not going to slow down because, you know, it was too much work just to get rogue to where it is. And I've only been doing this for three months. And I'm certainly not going to let the coronavirus stop me from being where I want to be. And I hope you won't either. And if you have any questions about what I'm doing, you know that I'm always available to you, that I love you guys.

I love you for watching this. You know, I've had to make a lot of really tough decisions in different ways, sometimes frustrating things, sometimes saying that I wanted something, they have to call somebody and be like, tell them I didn't really want that. It's a difficult, it's been difficult for me. I overthink a little bit. But I feel like I got things started.

I feel like I'm starting to get everything lined up and I'm starting to cook. I'm starting to cook a little bit. So like I said, you have any questions about what I'm doing? decisions I've had to make, thoughts, whatever, let me know. I'm going to try to get back to doing these updates every week just because I feel like it's kind of cathartic. Hopefully you find some value in them and I wish you nothing but the best.

Stay safe, stay healthy. For as much as I despise the way that the traditional media is handling the reporting of the coronavirus, I do think it's a very dangerous thing. and, you know, we need to be very smart about the way that we handle ourselves. So I wish you nothing but the best, and I'll catch you on the flip side. I'm out of here. Peace. Twice as many deals by this time next week.

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