First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - AJ & Malia: She Thought He Was a Sociopath on Their Date… Then He Said This 😳

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

AJ thought his date with Malia went great — smooth jazz, martinis, and a goodnight kiss. 🎷🍸 But two weeks later… she completely ghosted him. Now AJ turns to The Jubal Show’s First Date Follow Up to find out what went wrong. Was it the awkward moment with the martini? Or was something else on the date giving Malia major red flags? 🤔 When we finally get Malia on the phone, she reveals the very unexpected reason she wasn’t calling him back — and it leads to one of the most awkward and hilarious conversations we’ve heard in a while. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We went to a jazz club downtown, and it was, it was, it was. It's such a great vibe. I mean, it was dim lighting, and there was live saxophone and martinis. Ooh, sexy. I mean, the whole night just felt easy, you know? Like, we were smiling across the table, leaning in and close, and we could hear each other between the songs. I like that a lot.

And, yeah, I've tried to get a hold of her a few times and nothing. Okay. Is there anything you can think of that might be the reason you're getting ghosted? Yeah, I pretty much spit a martini in her face. What? What? Sorry, you what? On purpose?

No, at one point in the date, I was drinking the martini and I noticed that some of her hair got it, and I just reacted and I kind of spit it out, but I noticed a lot of it got on her. Okay. Oh, no. I told her that there was hair in it, and she seemed like she understood. but she probably just got grossed out by surprise I spit my drink on her. Okay. Yay. A lot of questionable things in that moment.

But yeah, we ended the date with a kiss and she says she wanted to see me again, but I haven't heard from her and it's really messing me up. All right. AJ, why don't you catch us up on your situation again real quick? Yeah, sure. I had a great time with her at a jazz club downtown. She was beautiful, smart, funny. At some point, I went to take a drink with the martini and it had her hair in it.

I reacted, spit it out. Mostly got on her and I had no idea, but she seemed to be okay. All right. So you're thinking that was that. It could be the reaction that you had to accidentally drink her hair too. It was like, automatically spit it out. All right. Well, are you ready for us to call her?

Yes. Okay. I am ready. Here we go. Hello, you've reached Malia. Hey, Malia, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Malia. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. How are you doing? I'm okay. Are you calling me live? Am I on the radio right now? Yes. It's okay, though. This is a safe space.

Have you ever heard of the show before? I've heard of it. I've obviously never been on the radio before. Well, what's about? Well, we're calling you today because we do a segment on the show that's called the first date follow-up. That's where if you go out with somebody and you end up ghosting them, they can email us to call you and find out why you're ghosting them. And we got an email about you from somebody. Okay. It's somebody that you went on a date with recently and you haven't been calling them back.

They've been trying to get a hold of you. Any idea who would be? I mean, I assume it's probably AJ. Yes, it is AJ. He emailed us and told us all about your date and said that he really liked you and he's been bummed because you won't call him back. Would you mind telling us why you're ghosting him? Well, I don't, I mean, okay, I don't really feel like I'm ghosting him. I guess his thing number one.

I felt like he wasn't very interested in me. Really? Did he tell you, did he tell you about our date at all? Did he tell you like what? He did. We talked about it a little bit. He said that he spit a martini on you on accident. He felt bad about it.

Yeah, that wasn't. That wasn't, I mean, that didn't really, okay, so the thing that bothered me on this date was that I didn't really feel like I got to know him at all. That's why I'm really surprised that he wants to, you know, talk to me or is involving you guys because I went on this date with really high expectations. and the entire night, he basically just wouldn't talk about himself at all. He was totally clamped up. It didn't feel like he wanted to be intimate or vulnerable in any way. And he kind of sprayed a drink on me a little bit at one point. But that was kind of toward the beginning.

And I actually at that point was thinking like, oh, this is going to be a cute story someday, right? This is going to be really cute. Like at that point, I was hoping for another date. but he was so uninvested in the whole thing all night. Like, started to feel like, you know, that thing where they say, like, you know, narcissists and sociopaths will keep you talking about yourself because they're trying to hook you. I started to feel a part of the truth. Like, does he not want to reveal anything about himself?

Is he just trying to keep me talking about myself? Like, you know, is it a ploy? It was so weird. Like, I asked him about his job and he's like, oh, it's good. That keeps me busy. And then he just asked about my job. And it gave me a really awkward feeling like I had to perform. Like I was responsible for carrying the conversation.

I felt like I was being ghosted in real time. I felt like I was on a state. Weird. Okay. But he was asking you questions though. So like could it have been that he was just nervous? Yeah, but it felt like I was being interrogated because he wouldn't say anything about himself. And I was trying to, I was asking about him because I really wanted to get to know him.

I thought it was going to be a really good date. And he just was not interested in talking about himself at all. And it just gave me this weird feeling of like, okay, maybe I don't want to turn over that log, you know? Okay. All right. Well, thank you for telling us. And I'll also let you know, Malia, that AJ is actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. Yeah.

Right now? Yes. Right now. Hello? Hi. Ooh. You were, were you on? on the call since the beginning. Did they patch you in or have you been on this whole time?

Yes, I have been on the whole time and I'm surprised, Chuck. I thought I was being respectful and letting me talk. I didn't want to dominate the conversation. Well, you didn't, you didn't dominate the conversation. You didn't even join the conversation. I felt like I was talking to a wall. Dang. Oh, so, well, I'm sorry for that. But, you know, I thought... Like right there, your sorry was so polite.

Like, I'm not getting a sense of any kind of emotion. Do you have emotions? Are you a sociopath? Like, these are the questions I'm having. Oh, wow. Yes and no. Which part? Yes, I have emotions.

No, I'm not a sociopath. Okay. I thought you like talking, so I was down to listen, and trust me, I sure I have hobbies. I do. I really do. Okay, well, then say one right now. I mean, you got me involved around the radio. Talk to me.

Have a conversation with me. Can you do this? Good, good. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. So I like walking. I like singing walks in the park. I like jogging.

I like to be outside a lot, actually. That's why I'm going to that bar. was a good idea because, you know, I love music. The jazz music was great. You're killing it, AJ. Yeah. Okay, I also like to be outside. I like going on hikes.

Do you like going on hikes? Do you like being outside? Like in the forest, in the mountains. Those are things I enjoy. It's a little intense, Moja. Okay, this is good. I mean, and I promise there's many interesting things that I didn't tell you about me. I was just trying to be a listener.

Oh, that's nice. Okay, so is this, is this, are you like this with your friends? Like, do people have to draw stuff out of you? Because honestly, it was a little bit exhausting. And if you were, if it was first date nerves, I totally understand that's something I can, you know, I can conceptualize. But I just want to make sure if I'm going on a date with somebody that I actually get to know who they are as a person because that's the whole point. Sorry about that. I was taking notes, but yes, yes, I can.

You're taking notes? Are you really? Yep. Like on your song, like on a note. That's effort. That is really dorky, but kind of sweet and actually a little bit vulnerable, like what I was missing before, so. Well, AJ, or Melia, would you like to go out with AJ again?

We'll pay for it. I don't know that that wasn't so seopathic. you'll pay for it yes the radio will pay for yes we'll pay for it I would be willing to go on a second first date yay okay there you go AJ

yes yes absolutely and I will come with three full stories two embarrassing moments and at least one childhood trauma love it okay good that jubel's first date follow good people what's up what's up it's

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Jamie's real and raw. And it's something I really admire about her. I am so happy that I'm the head bitch in charge at 67, that I have the perspective that I have at my age to really be able to put all of this into context. Listen to the Questlove show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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