First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Amanda & Kyle - When the Steak Knife Crossed the Line

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Amanda thought she found something rare—a single dad with charm, romance, and serious date-planning skills. But after one unforgettable night, Kyle vanished without a word. Was it her surprising... “mom move” at dinner… or something much bigger? In this First Date Follow-Up, The Jubal Show uncovers the shocking truth behind Kyle’s ghosting, and let’s just say—this reveal might have parents everywhere shaking their heads. Tune in for messy dating drama, ghosting confessions, and a twist you won’t see coming! Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 Powered by the advocates injury attorneys. Online at Advocateslaw.com. Amanda is on the phone today for a first day follow-up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Kyle. So in a few minutes, we're going to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But first, Amanda, how long has it been since you heard from Kyle?
Starting point is 00:02:34 Hi, guys. It's been a few weeks now. Oh. Okay. So that's a good amount of time. What is it about Kyle that you want to get a hold of so bad? Oh, my goodness. It's like, it's really rare.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I think that you meet someone like Kyle. We had this lovely first date and a really just lovely connection. And I think it would be a real shame if we don't reconnect in that way. I don't know. It's just, it, something felt really right. What felt so right that you just don't want to kind of move on to the next person? I mean, okay, is it helpful to just explain everything that went down? Yeah. Okay, so I don't date very much. I'm a single parent, but I met him at this basketball game.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Our kids are little, they're like five, and they're in this little basketball league, and, you know, we were there on a Saturday, and we're both cheering, and we ended up just sort of bonding and talking about being single parents and just men a general chaos of life and he just, he's so charming I know I've got a few guys but he really is. We just totally hit it off and then, you know, nobody
Starting point is 00:03:40 who asks somebody out anymore like in person? Like when does that happen? But he asked me out to dinner and was like you know when we don't have the kids, let's go out and that's a huge step for me. Like I haven't been out at all since my ex-husband and so that was pretty special and yeah, I mean he planned the whole date
Starting point is 00:03:56 total gentleman about it. He took me to a steakhouse, which is kind of fancy. And we were, we just had a great conversation. We were talking at one point, and I was, like, talking so much that I blew the little, like, tea-light candle out in front of us. And he was around, and he got up, and he's got another one, which was so cute. Oh, that is cute. Yeah, and he knows a lot about wine, and he's just really cultured in that way. And so he picked a great wine for us, and just felt like a real instant connection, a lot of laughing.
Starting point is 00:04:23 There was also so random, but maybe not random. He's good at planning dates, I guess. but there was like a band that played. It was a very old-school vibe. And we ordered dessert, and that was nice enough for me. But he literally grabbed my hands, and we started dancing. Oh, that's cool. Because of a live music.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And, you know, we had had a few glasses with wine at that point, but the wine was great and the music was great. And it just was such a great night, and I really loved how I felt when I was with him. That's romantic. He sounds like an excellent day. Do we know he's single? You said he has a kid?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Like, could he pop for me? I mean, one of the benefits of the, the Little League, so to speak, that we're all a part of is that I definitely have vetted with other parents that he was single. Okay. Yeah, you know, there was just some cuddling and kissing on that first date, and I thought, hmm, okay, we're definitely going to do this again. Why do you think he might be ghosting you?
Starting point is 00:05:14 I mean, I thought a lot about it, and really only like a couple things. I mean, you know, everybody has their insecurities. Like, I definitely, I'm like, oh, you know, maybe he wasn't attracted to me or any of those things had gone through my head. But the big one is, um, you know, man, I can't believe I'm saying this on the radio, but I reached over and I cut his steak for him at the stake. Like, I instinctively went to cut the steak at the steak out. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And I, it was just course of habit. You know, I have a little one. And I, when I pulled back, I was like, oh, sorry, I'm a virgin. What? It was totally a joke. I just was like, oh, I'm a virgin. Sorry about that. Like, I'm new to this.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I thought it was a joke. You're a dating virgin. That. That's funny. That's funny, though. You know, Madonna has to call me. I feel like a virgin again. Like, I'm very, like, nudist again.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah. I think that's funny. I don't know if I would ghost you over that, you know? Yeah, we laughed it off. I don't think it's ghosting material, but... I mean, I hope not. He might have been alarmed, though, by somebody reaching over to touch his steak, but I used to hang out with this couple, and she would cut his steak every single time they went out.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Like, he'd wait to eat for it. Really? Really. So some people are into it. Huh. It was weird. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Well, we'll see if that is the thing. We'll play us on. come back and then call him and see if I'll tell us why he's ghosting you, okay? Okay, sounds good, then. All right, we'll see if we can get you a second date and your first date follow-up coming up next. Who cares about truth when the lies more entertaining. Hey, everybody, I'm Angela Rye, co-host of Native Lambot with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I've been telling Angela, I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves. That's the truth. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country. Rest is certainly a form of self-care. But if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y'all got it.
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Starting point is 00:09:50 of your first date follow up and if you're just joining us Amanda is on the the phone and she's getting ghosted by Kyle so we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date but first Amanda why don't you break down your date with Kyle one more time for us real quick before we call him yeah I met this guy at our kids basketball games he took me out for dinner it was super nice um it's been a couple of weeks and I texted him I literally saw him after the next basketball game and he like rushed away and was super weird so yeah we just let to know what happened and what I did okay well are you ready for us to call him?
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, I guess so. All right, here, here we go. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Kyle, please? This is Kyle speaking. Hey, Kyle, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Hi, Kyle, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. How are you? I'm okay. What's going on? Not much. Have you ever heard the show before?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great. Well, Kyle, we got an email about you from somebody. That's why we're on the phone. Okay. So, I don't know if you've heard the segment that we do, the first date follow-up, where if you get ghosted, you can email us, and we'll call the person who ghosted you and ask why they're ghosting.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Oh, wow. So we got... Is this about Amanda? Yes, it is. Well, you do that right away. We talked to Amanda a little bit about your date. She said that it was very romantic, awesome actually. Yeah, but says that you're not calling her back and she doesn't know why.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Can you tell us? Oh, boy, I don't. Okay, so our kids play in the same basketball league together. I'm sure, you know, she probably, right. Yeah, we went out. It was a lovely time. It was really nice. And, you know, I just, I'm looking for something.
Starting point is 00:11:51 different. I'm a single dad and I want to have fun. And she just, uh, and she or she's a great mom, but my, my kids got a mom and I kind of just want a girlfriend. And she's, uh, I just noticed she was sort of in mom mode all the time. What does that mean? Okay. Well, she's really caring. She's really affectionate and I had a really good time, but, uh, she just can't cut loose. She's very, uh, well, she was kind of high strong and, well, to be honest, uh, I wound up going out with, uh, One of the other women from the basketball league. What? Who?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Hey, Kyle, that's Amanda. Yeah. She's actually, I don't know if you remember these or not, but she's on the phone and wants to talk to you. And obviously he's curious about who you went out with. Oh, yeah. No, I forgot. Yeah. Hi.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Hi. Hey, how are you? Wait, sorry. So, you know, I've been better. You're gosing me because I'm too much of a mom. Is that, like, is that what we're going with here? No, look. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 No, you're really sweet. I just, I'm not really dating to find a partner right now. I'm just dating to have fun. And, you know, I think it's awesome. I think you're a great parent, but I really just need a girlfriend. And, you know, I'm, wow, this is embarrassing. You want someone to take shots and, you know, forget their response. responsibilities forget their kids and yeah no that makes total sense I was like
Starting point is 00:13:21 oh come on no no no I I can relax I can have a good time I can be a dad and I can just be a man and you know you're just you're a mom and that's awesome but I need a woman who's more than just a you know just one thing oh that's so crazy Kyle you're a dad like you have to remind you of that you are a dad you are a dad you are a parent okay look I can go out I can have fun with people and I don't need to just be a dad all the time I uh look sweetheart I contain multitudes right I need a woman who does that too I don't think you can say sweet art like that and then say I can be a dad and a man too I mean aren't you a dad all the time your mom all the time if you have children but I understand what you mean by
Starting point is 00:14:08 being able to separate being a person but I don't know that that's really what you're saying you're saying you just kind of want somebody reckless has nothing to do with Not reckless. I mean, I care about my kids. I think, you know, it's not about that. But if I'm going out with a woman, I don't want to just talk about kids stuff all the time. And, I mean, it was kind of weird. She tried to cut my food up for me.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Who did you go out with? Can you just tell me that? Lisa. Sorry, Lisa, the 22-year-old referee at the basketball game. She's literally not a parent. She's not a parent. That makes perfect sense. He's just definitely not a parent.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Oh, yeah. Okay. So clearly you're just, you're a dad who wants to date somebody who's like basically your daughter. Kyle, would you like to go out with Amanda again on a second day?
Starting point is 00:15:08 We'll pay for it. Oh, wow. Sounds very, very tempting. No, you guys. Why don't you guys all go out together? That sounds like a good time. It does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Well, thanks for calling. I appreciate it. Yeah, and you have fun being the oldest man at an EDM show coming. Thanks for your time. Jubil's first date follow-up. Who cares about truth when the lives more entertaining. Welcome home. I'm Angela Ryde, co-host of the Native Lambod with Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross,
Starting point is 00:15:40 and we want you all to survive and thrive in this political moment. We're having the same debates that American House House House. are having all over the country. I'm terrified that in our rest, we're going to miss the moment. You want me to stop resting. What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action. Listen to Native Lamb Pod on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:16:04 In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is missing. How is your day? But the real world is different. Managing life's challenges can be overwhelming. So what do we do? We get support. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council
Starting point is 00:16:24 have mental health resources available for you at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. See how much further you can go when you take care of your mental health. Lauren came in hot. From viral performances to red carpet looks that had everyone talking. The podcast, the latest with Lauren the Rosa, is your go-to for everything. Be amazed. We'll be right here breaking it all down.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I'm going to be giving you all the headlines, breaking down everything that is going down behind the scenes, and getting into what the people are saying. Like, what is the culture talking about? That's exactly what we'll be getting into here at the latest with Lauren the Rosa. Everything being amazed. To hear this and more,
Starting point is 00:16:59 listen to the latest with Lauren the Rosa from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio at Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas.
Starting point is 00:17:14 You understand politics. more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys, snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie, Jamil Hill, because she's going to keep it a century.
Starting point is 00:17:29 In America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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