First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Avery & Ryder - Ghosted Over Unicorns & Smoothie Meltdowns

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

On today’s First Date Follow-Up, Avery gets ghosted after a seemingly perfect biking date, but a playful unicorn-themed smoothie photo might be the culprit! Join us as we call Writer to uncover why he vanished and find out if sparks, or unicorns, can survive a second date. Full of awkward humor, unexpected honesty, and dating drama you won’t want to miss. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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named writer so in a few minutes we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date but first avery how long has it been since you heard from writer Yeah. So it's been about, oh gosh, it's, it's been about two weeks since I've heard from him. We went on this really lovely date where we went biking, like actual biking. And we went to the park and down the trail. And I was trying to play cool. I was having a good time. But I got to be honest, y'all, I haven't ridden a bike. an eighth grade PE so I definitely felt quite are you okay

oh yeah I'm good I'm good it may have even been three times but um but Ryder was so sweet he was a total gentleman he helped me up and he laughed with me

he laughed with me not at me and so I thought he was super charming and that it was going well. We sat for smoothies.

Afterwards, we sat by the lake. We talked for like over an hour. It was so sweet. It was, it was just one of those like unexpected connection moments. And he was so chill. Like, writer is annoyingly attractive and confident and not cocky at the same time. And when I spoke, he just, he listened. I, like, he actually listened to me talk about everything,

including my really weird little pottery side hustle that I have. I love how excited we get when somebody listens to us. It's always nice when somebody listens to you know that. We hear that a lot on these first eight follow-ups, and I mean, I get it, but it's just, it's the simple things, really, that get us hooked. I know. I agree, and he, he just made me feel really cool. and stay and like I wasn't being judged even when I crashed into that sign.

Oh, no. I haven't had that kind of connection in a very long time. So it felt spontaneous and easy and like not forced. And I'm not trying to plan a wedding or anything or rush anything. But I just want to know what happened. Yeah. Do you know what could have happened? I mean, obviously it wasn't your falling because he stuck around for a while after that.

Sounds like we don't know that for the fact, but that would be terrible. Did anything else happen? Yeah, guys, I don't know, but I, the one thing I could think of is that there was this one moment where I panicked when a squirrel ran across the path. And I don't, I don't mean like a little panic. I full-blown, freak to the F out. It was not my best moment, but I tried to play it off, and so I screamed at the squirrel and we're like, not today, little demon.

Oh, he laughed. He almost, like, he laughed. He seemed like he wasn't weirded out, you know, almost seemed like he was taking the joke with me. And, you know, he didn't seem like, oh, my gosh, This is a full-grown adult woman having a meltdown over a squirrel on the bike path. So, like, it was a real meltdown, not just like a, ah. Yeah, I was not expecting that squirrel.

Okay. Okay. So you think maybe that's what might be the reason that you are getting ghosted is just the reaction to the little demon squirrel. I, that's got to be it because nothing else happened. Everything else went so beautifully. I can't think of anything else that would have thrown it off. Well, we fell off the bike also. We'll see if that is the reason.

We'll play a song, come back, and then call him, and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another day if you still want one, okay? Okay, perfect. All right, we'll get your first day follow up next. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress,

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So I did fall a few times, but he helped me back up. And other than that, we got smoothied and we had a really great time with a lot of great talking. And I have not heard from him since. The only thing that I can think of that might have scared him off is when we were biking, a silly little squirrel ran out in front of me, and I freaked out because I don't like rodents. But that's all I can think of.

I texted him the next day and I thanked him for a great date and I sent him a picture of me smiling with a smoothie a few days later to be like, oh, look, we did smoothies. But I have gotten nothing back from him, so I'd love to see what he says. All right. Are you ready for us to call him? Let's do it. Okay, here we go. Hello? Hi, man.

Speak to Ryder, please. Yeah, this is he. Hey, Ryder. How are you? This is The Jubal Show. It's a radio show. Hi, Ryder. I'm Nina.

Hi, and I'm Victoria. Oh, hello. What's up? How are you? And my name's Jubal, by the way. Have you ever listened to the Jubal show? Um, I think I have heard the show before, yeah. Okay.

Well, we're calling you today because one of our listeners actually emailed us about you. Oh, wait. Is this about Avery? Oh, you knew right away. Wow, that's that. Yeah. Well, we do a segment called the first aid follow-up on our show.

Maybe you already knew that, I guess, where if you ghost somebody and they don't know why they can email us to get you on the phone and ask. So, yes, it is about Avery. Oh. Do you have a second to tell us why you're ghosting her? Yeah, I mean, I figured this might come up eventually. Oh, really?

What happened? I mean, she's beautiful, like drop-degorgeous, but she sent me this photo, and it was her in, like, unicorn underwear, holding a smoothie and doing this weak face. I just don't, I don't know. It was, uh, it was really bizarre. I mean, I opened it during lunch at work, and I almost choked on my tortilla chips. So you, you didn't like it? You really painted the picture writer? It was like she was trying to be...

It was like a six-year-old trying to be sexy. That's what it felt like. It was creepy. Yeah, a little bit like two, I don't know. It's not often you hear a dude say that with getting a picture like that. Never, actually. Was it the unicorns that made it that way, or was it the whole thing? It was the whole thing, but yeah, the unicorns really pushed it over the edge.

Okay. All right, so that's the reason you're ghosting her is. she creeped you out with trying to send you a sexy picture. Yeah, and there was some other stuff, too. It's like, so she calls her bed the snuggle headquarters. You know, like, that's kind of cute. Like, elementary school. I mean, she was also, like, sniffing her smoothie and being like,

hmm, yummy, sippy, I love it. You know, I don't know. Okay, baby talkie. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Riter, thank you for being honest with us and tell us why you're going ghosting her. Now I'll let you know

that she's actually on the phone listing and wants to talk to you. Maybe in baby talk, I don't know. Are you at Snuggle Headquarters? Wait. So, you didn't like the unicorns? For real? Like, those are sexy. Hey, Avery. Hi. Oh, my God.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that being playful is like a deal breaker now. I mean, it's not that you're being, playful. It's just like, I don't know. I like, I barely knew you and all of a sudden I'm looking at you at like Lisa Frank Laundrae holding a smoothie. I mean, you kind of treated it like it was a mic drop moment or something. I don't know. It was weird. I was dropping a mic. A mic of joy and love and body positivity. And I mean, come on. That could have been yours. I mean, look, you are totally a vibe and you're very beautiful.

I just don't think I'm, like, your vibe. You know, I live in the real world. You seem to live in, like, a glitter dimension where, like, squirrels call full, like, these meltdowns and smoothies have feelings. I don't know. It's weird. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Well, I should have mentioned that I have a fear of rodents, and squirrels are basically rodents because I just, I know I was a little bit dramatic, but it freaked me out, okay?

and I don't know what you're talking about. Smoothies definitely have feelings. What does that mean? Well, you clearly don't have feelings or have any understanding of fun in life. I didn't realize you were this serious. It's such a bummer. What does that mean? Oh, well, he said earlier that like squirrels cause meltdowns and smoothies don't have feelings.

And I was just saying, whatever I do. I don't know. It's a little much for me. It just feels like I'm dealing with like, elementary school. I don't know. Whoa. Writer, what would you like for a woman to send to you?

You know, just a perfect portrait in business casual, like fully covered? I don't know. Maybe like regular lingerie without like unicorns and glitter and stuff. I don't know. Okay. Well, I guess I'll just find somebody who doesn't have emotional panic when they see sparkles. What? Well, Ryder, would you like another date with Avery?

pay for it. No, no, I think I'm good. She's one of a kind, but I think we live on different planets. Well, that's totally fine. You can have fun with a woman who likes to role play, like they're in business meetings or church or court or something boring like you. Wow. Look, you can tell this movie I said sorry.

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