First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Bella & Callum - When Your First Date Turns Into a Third Wheel Situation

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

Bella thought she met the perfect guy — until he suddenly ghosted her. Turns out, the real mystery man might be someone named Mike. In this First Date Follow Up episode, things take a wild turn ...when Bella’s “just a friend” gets brought up way too many times… and Callum isn’t having it. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years, and today he even throws a few questions my way. Are you ready for another question? Go ahead. Hit me, Bernie.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Lave, Rufus Wainwright, Mavis Staples, really too many to name. and there's still so much more to come in this new season. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First date of follow-up, powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys, online at Advocateslaw.com. Bella is on the phone today for a first date follow-up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Callum, so in a few minutes we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But first, Bella, how long has it been since you heard from Callum? About a week. Okay. Have you guys, you know, have you reached out to him at all? Yeah, I've been texting and, like, trying to set up a second date, but I'm getting nothing. Okay. Well, why don't you tell us about the date? Yeah, so, I mean, like, we had a good time.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I thought he was genuinely just, like, a funny guy, just kind, right? It's hard to come by, just like a good, kind guy, not the ones. are like flexing and sending me, like, you know, pictures that I don't want to see. And we had a nice, like, I mean, it is. It's hard. I don't know if you guys are. Yeah, no, it's a win when you don't get an unsolicited package pick for sure. That's a victory.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah, like, I don't mean, I don't want it. All right, so he's not being a creep. That's great. Yeah. We had, like, a cute date, right? It was like a weeknight, kind of like ramen and craft beers. in like a little low lit spot downtown. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And he had like a good, you know, voice and he just made everything sound cooler. And I'm a big, like, humor person. If they're not funny, like, I just can't do it. And he had the perfect sense of dry humor. And he also was, like, engaging, you know, asking thoughtful questions. Okay. That sounds awesome. But what do you think could have been the problem?
Starting point is 00:04:23 I don't know. Like, so when I get nervous, like especially I'm excited which obviously I was um I tend to like um my stutter comes out a little bit and I was ordering and I was like you know at the ramen place and I'm like hey could I have some extra chili oil so the waiter yeah okay the waiters yeah the waiters that I was joking so I like panic and just kind of like over explained the whole thing okay but like if somebody can't roast you over that. Do you think that's really why? I honestly
Starting point is 00:05:00 have no idea. I mean, we had good conversations, like I said. You know, he had me laughing. There was definitely chemistry. So I just, you know, I'm not sure, you know, why he's doing this. Okay. Well, how did the date end? We had like a super, like, long, lingering, like,
Starting point is 00:05:20 hug, so I think we both enjoyed it. and like there was nothing like that when he believed like he didn't want to see me again or talk to me again well how did he react when you were getting all nervous and stuff he just kind of like looked away like I guess he didn't know like how to deal with it okay so you think it was that awkward where that's the reason that he might be ghosting you yeah honestly like I guess it's like I'm super sensitive about it so it just seemed like a little too familiar like it's happened before late like guys you're like oh you're super cute but you know it's like too much when I start to stumble but I just find it different honestly all right well we'll
Starting point is 00:06:02 see if we can figure it out for you we'll play a song come back and then call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date okay I love that all right we'll get your first day follow up next on the latest episode of next question with me katie currick I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress, and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age. Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people are, you know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Starting point is 00:08:18 Samihante, it's Anna Ortiz. And I'm Mark and Delicado. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. We played mother and son on the show, but in real life, we're best friends. And I'm all grown up now. Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty! Yay! Woo-hoo!
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Starting point is 00:09:11 And I was like, what? Is she even talking about it? Listen to Viva Betty, as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast if you're just joining us for today's first date follow-up Bella is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Callum so in a few seconds we're going to call him and see if I'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date but before we do
Starting point is 00:09:38 that Bella why don't you break down your situation for us again real quick so I met this super cute guy on a lot of dating apps and we He hit it off, I thought. The only thing that I could maybe give a reason why he'd call me back is because I have, like, a little bit of a stutter when I get excited. Oh, I really hope that's not why. Yeah, that would suck if that's the reason. All right, are you ready for us to call him? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I want to know. Okay, here we go. Hi, hello. Hi, man, speak to Callum, please. Oh, this is Callum. Hey, Callum, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Hi, Callum. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. What's up? Hey, how's it going? Good. Have you ever listened to the show before?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, cool. Well, thank you. Yeah, appreciate it, man. Well, guess what? Sure. Callum, do you know what a first date follow-up is? I do.
Starting point is 00:10:45 All right. Well, that's why we're on the phone. You know, that's a segment where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to call you and ask why you're ghosting. And we got an email about you from somebody. Okay. Any idea who that would be? Not a guess, maybe.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Go ahead, take a guess. I'll tell you if you're right. Is her name Bella? Yes, it is. We talked to Bella about your date. She said she really liked you, but doesn't know why you're ghosting. Can you tell us? Yeah, I'm ghosting her because of Mike.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Mike? Who's Mike? Mike. I mean, every story she started was Mike this, Mike that. I mean, after a while I felt like I was a third wheel on the date with Mike. Who is Mike? Did she say who Mike is or just talk about a random person named Mike? Just a random person named Mike.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I seem a friend, but I mean, he came up a lot. So you don't really even know who Mike is? Not really. It was featuring very heavily on the conversation, like much more so than the typical friend, I guess. I mean, it was Mike said I should try this ramen place. Mike taught me how to use chopsticks. Mike thinks all look good and green.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I mean, just non-stop. And you never asked who Mike was? I mean, I didn't ask her to, you know, explain it. I wasn't trying to, like, you know, make a big deal about it, maybe. But, I mean, it was pretty. my time dessert, uh, dessert came, you know, I was like, should Mike be paying for this? Wait, so did it sound like Mike was somebody she was dating? I did not think you were that insecure.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Oh, hey, Callan, that's Bella. She's actually on the phone. You ghosted me over Mike. Oh, yeah. Uh, I forgot she'd be on the phone. Yeah. You ghosted me over Mike. I mean, you made it sound like
Starting point is 00:12:46 you're very personal on earth He's literally just my friend I was nervous And I just like was talking too much That's all You said quote If Mike were here He'd know exactly how to fix this
Starting point is 00:12:59 Chopstick splinter I didn't know whether to laugh Or to ask if Mike wanted to be a plus one I mean it was awkward It was weird You could have asked me Who he was Instead you like lead to
Starting point is 00:13:12 it was pretty obvious that you're like really into them i mean i was curious as i'm wondering why it was coming up at all in a date but um i mean i mean he brings your soup on your sick he fixes your tire yeah that's great i'm happy for you i mean it's just are you sure there's nothing more i mean he's the best guy you know i mean yeah actually he is he just a good he is he just a good person and I was just kind of you know one of you're nervous on a date you just kind of talk about people and he's one of my people
Starting point is 00:13:50 he sounds like he is your person I mean that's kind of what it sounds like to me that's kind of what it sounded like to me I don't know I just wasn't really over the top for first date I mean okay well and Mike wouldn't ghost me like you did see I mean that's what I'm
Starting point is 00:14:08 talking about you're comparing me to Mike I mean isn't that kind of weird it's not a competition I mean I don't think it's a competition it's just a matter what you're choosing to talk about on our first date I mean if I sat there
Starting point is 00:14:21 and talked about another woman the entire time I'm sure that you would have had some kind of issue with that it just doesn't say like appropriate dates there let me know you didn't text me back
Starting point is 00:14:31 you could text me back and said hey you know it kind of put me off a little bit and we could have talked about it why so you could tell me more about Mike I'm like you're not going to get over this are you
Starting point is 00:14:41 so um so let me ask it to be really quick have you uh have you ever slept with mike okay this was like 10 years ago one time so you have it was a mistake we're just friends well now i'm picturing if we're doing that and you're thinking mike would do it this way might do it that way whoa oh no calvin would you like another day with bell we'll pay for it Yeah, I don't think no. Mike's already won this one. I was going to pee with that guy.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I told you it wasn't a competition. Yeah, that's fine. But, I mean, it looks like a date for me. Good luck. Whatever. I'm going to go call Mike and see what he thinks about that. Oh. Joubles' first date follow-up.
Starting point is 00:15:34 On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over. the years, and today he even throws a few questions my way. Are you ready for another question? Go ahead. Hit me, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shut down.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless, Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from Smartless Media, campside media and big money players it's the true story of the almost perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off it was kind of like the perfect storm in a sewer that was dumb do not follow my example listen to crimeless hillbilly heist on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast so me hente it's anna or i'm mark and
Starting point is 00:16:38 Delicado. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. Yay. We're re-watching the series from start to finish. And talking to iconic guests like Betty herself, America Ferreira. There was this moment when the glasses went on and it was like, this is our Betty. Listen to Viva Betty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leve, Rufus Wainwright, Mavis Staples, really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

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