First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - BONUS - To Catch A Cheater - Kayla Suspects Dylan — But Is Elise Just a “Podcast Partner”?

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

Kayla has been dating Dylan for two years, but his sudden change in behavior—more time on Snapchat, taking secretive selfies, dressing up on weekends, and suspicious restaurant receipts—has her questioning everything. When her friends push her to take action, she turns to The Jubal Show for answers in this episode of To Catch a Cheater. We call Dylan pretending to be from his grocery store’s rewards program, offering him free roses to send to anyone he wants. When he chooses someone named Elise and includes a message that hints at a growing connection, Kayla is blindsided. Dylan claims Elise is just a coworker helping him start a podcast… but is that really all it is? Listen as the tension unfolds, suspicions rise, and Kayla makes a controversial decision—believing Dylan’s explanation, even when the evidence feels sketchy. Is Dylan guilty or just misunderstood? This episode is packed with red flags, deflections, and a twist you won't see coming. Think your partner might be up to something shady? The Jubal Show has you covered. In this explosive segment, The Jubal Show helps suspicious lovers uncover the truth by setting up the ultimate loyalty test. We call their significant other, posing as a grocery store’s floral department offering a free bouquet. You know.. a War of the Roses. The catch? Who they choose to send the flowers to—and what they write on the card—could reveal everything. Will it be a romantic gesture for their partner or a shocking betrayal? Get ready for twists, surprises, and jaw-dropping confrontations as we help our listeners get the answers they deserve. Subscribe to The Jubal Show's To Catch A Cheater / War of the Roses.➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up? Why do you think Dylan might be cheating on you? I think there's some signs He's been really secretive. He's hiding his phone texting a lot He's been getting really dressed up on weekends and just claiming he's been really secretive. He's hiding his phone. He's texting a lot. He's been getting really dressed up on weekends and just claiming he's grabbing drinks with the guys. I've been finding receipts. There was a receipt from a really nice Italian restaurant in his car. And that night I thought he was going to be at a sports bar. I did ask him about it and he kind of shrugged it off and said, plans changed.

So I don't, I don't know. I feel like there's signs, but there's nothing clear that's obvious to me. Did you know who he was going to the sports bar, Italian restaurant, whatever with? It was supposedly the guys. Like I thought he was just hanging out with his friends. Did you confront the guys? No. Um, Dylan kind of made it seem like it was nothing.

So I didn't want to come off as like crazy girlfriend. So does he not usually get dressed up when he goes out with the guys? That's a new thing. That's a new thing. Yeah. He's usually pretty, pretty casually dressed, but it's been most weekends. He's getting nicely dressed, like getting clothes from the cleaners, nicely dressed. It's odd.

Okay. That's odd. Okay. That's a little weird. Have you asked him about that? Yeah, he was just saying something like he feels better when he dresses nice and he's like, okay, well, my dad, okay, great. You look great. He's got reasons for everything. And I don't really have proof of any reason why you would be lying or what my friends

all think some things up. So that's what I'm calling. That makes me feel uncomfortable too. Like if you're if you're talking to your friends about it, usually they're the ones that are holding up the mirror. Yeah. Does he act normal towards you? Like aside from being super sketchy when you ask him questions? Well, he's like hiding his phone. Like the other day I went to reach for something and he like grabbed his phone really quickly, which I thought was weird. Um, but yeah, just like a lot more time in the bathroom and a lot more time primping and just a lot of texting and, um, I saw Snapchat on his phone.

So like my friend said that might be a thing. I don't have Snapchat. Um, yeah, Snapchat's a big one. Like my friend said that might be a thing. I don't have Snapchat. Yeah. Snapchat's a big one. I've caught him like taking selfies, which I thought was weird because I'm not getting those selfies. Yeah, that is weird. Yeah, that is really weird.

And you haven't really like asked him about any of this? No, I mean, I've mentioned it all, but he explains it and I'm like, okay, I guess that's like reasonable. You're dressing up because you want to feel better you're taking selfies because you feel you look nice you know your friends want to go to a nice Italian restaurant like none of it to me sounds like he's actually doing anything bad but my friends are very very convinced and Snapchat's just like a social app so maybe I'm I don't know yeah overthinking it hopefully I, I don't know. Yeah. Overthinking it. Hopefully. I mean, I don't know.

All that, I mean, you know, saying that he was somewhere else, then he was, you know, saying that he went somewhere where he was actually at an Italian restaurant. I mean, that's kind of shady to me. I mean, yeah. Who goes to an Italian restaurant

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card member at and say that every single month we choose one lucky rewards member who gets free flowers delivered from our floral apartment and we'll see if he sends those to his girlfriend Kayla or to somebody else but before we do that Kayla why don't you break down your situation again real quick okay I've been dating Dylan for two years he's been acting a little strange my friends convinced me to call in he's been acting a little strange. My friends convinced me to call in. He's been really secretive with his phone. He's been dressing nicer.

He's got Snapchat. He's taking selfies and not sending them to me. I found a receipt stating that he wasn't where I thought he was. So he went to a nice Italian restaurant. Anytime I've mentioned anything, he's got a reasonable like answer So I'm not really sure what it is, but my friends urged me to call. Okay. Well, are you ready for us to call him?

Yes. All right. Here we go Hello. Hi, this is Corbel calling from I was looking for Dylan. Hi, Dylan, please don't hang up. This is not a marketing phone call. I'm actually calling to say thank you for being such a loyal customer and a rewards card member with us. You're this month's big winner. Congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you. What did I win exactly? Oh, maybe you didn't know every single month we choose one lucky rewards card member who gets a free gift from us. And this month it's free flowers delivered to anybody that you want within the 50 United States from our new and improved floral department. You just won 36 long stem red roses, a box of candy or chocolate, and a card to be delivered to anybody that you want. It's the $316 value actually.

Oh my goodness, that's pretty good. Hold on, there's no catch. No catch. That's awesome, okay. And it's really simple. What I would need from you first would be the first and last name of the person, and then if you wanna put anything on a card,

and then we'll get the address and that's it Okay I want to send these to a lease a lease Yes, okay, and Is there anything you want to put on a card? sure surprise and It's been wonderful to

Get to know you better and look forward to spending more time. Okay, great, got that. And now I should probably let you know that this is actually a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Yeah, hi, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name is Jubal and your girlfriend of two years,

Kayla, is actually on the phone. Wow. Well, who's Elise, Dylan? You're looking to spending more, what does that mean? You're looking forward to spending more time. Dylan, we do a segment on the show called To Catch a Cheater, where if you think

your significant other might be messing around, you see who they send flowers to. So that's- What's going on here? Seriously, who is this? I contacted them because I've been feeling uneasy. You won't talk to me. You're super sketch. You're hiding your phone. Who is this? I contacted them because I've been feeling uneasy. You won't talk to me. You're super sketch.

You're hiding your phone. Who is the elite? Elise? Look, I, um, I don't really know what's going on right now. What do you mean? Seriously, who the f*** is Elise? Answer the question. Who is Elise?

Elise is, um, she's a friend from work. Look, we've been meeting up with a group Saturdays to talk about a side project, like, you know, starting a podcast. Well, she, she happens to be the most consistent one who shows up. I was just, I was just being nice. I want to spend more time with you. That is more than friendly. That is, it's white.

You know, it's just, it's just something you say with the podcast. I didn't get the finish. How was it? I'm gonna say with the podcast. So you send flowers to somebody that has a podcast? Look, I mean, it's, these are, they're not like bright red roses or anything like that.

It's just a simple thank you because she's been the only one showing up. It looks like it just might be us and maybe one other person. I also said 36 long sin red roses. Yeah So they are yeah, they were yeah, it doesn't sound legit Dylan Okay Why have you never mentioned the podcast and why have you been lying why is it so secretive? Look, I I just didn't want to hype it up. Okay. It's not a serious podcast yet. We're just trying to begin this. I didn't want to hype it up. You know, I don't think it's, you know, I wouldn't

be doing it if I don't know. Look, I know this is how I know it looks bad. Okay. It's honestly just a podcast. There's nothing going on, okay? You've gotta believe me. It's two years. We've been really happy. Why would I cheat on you? Come on. Would Elise say that there's nothing going on too? Yes.

Okay, I believe you. No, you don't. You wanna call her? He says it. We've been together for two years. I trust him. I love Taylor. It sounds so sketchy. It sounds so sketchy.

So sketchy. Look, you guys don't know him, okay? He wouldn't lie to me. So if he says he's not doing it, then he's not doing it. Hila, you called us for a reason. I did, and he's explaining himself. So we're hearing him out. Is that not the purpose of the entire show?

Yeah, but it definitely the story doesn't really jive with me yeah look just because you guys kind of pick partners doesn't mean take your own baggage and apply it to yourself it has nothing to do with me you're supposed to help people this is not helping this is this is feeling judgy it's not judging you're just trying to have your back, girl. You're trauma dumping on us. Look, you know what, Kayla? I love you. And, you know, I would never cheat on you.

I have everything I have. There's no reason. And, you know, to this whatever radio show you guys have, I would have you on the podcast. Don't be putting stuff on my girlfriend's head. Oh, kind of podcast. How about that? Please put us on a podcast. I've never been on a podcast before I would love to be on your Your big radio show, huh? Well

Okay, Kayla. I'm glad you found out that he's he's not cheating then Yeah, no, he's being honest and I trust him wholeheartedly You guys should all do therapy though, because clearly you don't know anything about romantic relationships Okay, sorry, well don't call us back when we find out he is cheating on you. Sorry Alright, thanks a lot for everything The jubil shows to catch a cheater Camp Shane one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. But there were some dark truths behind

Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children. Nothing about that camp was right. It was really actually like a horror movie. Enter Camp Shame, an eight part series examining the rise and fall of Camp Shane and the culture that fueled its decades-long success. You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad-free on iHeart True Crime Plus. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today.

Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it.

Listen to voiceover on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I came out because I literally had a contract ripped up in front of me. On a recent episode of Good Game with Sarah Spayne, I spotlighted an inspiring out athlete, pro golfer Mel Reed. It's a part of me. I'm certainly not ashamed of it. And I think that there should be more representation in. To hear this and more on identity, inclusivity, and the power of being seen, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spayne, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment

on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives, you're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific and quite frankly I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.