First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - BONUS - To Catch A Cheater - The Continuation of Taylor, Matt, and now his wife Samantha

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Yesterday, Taylor was convinced her boyfriend Matt was cheating. So we put him to the test with a flower delivery prank—and he passed. He sent the bouquet to Taylor with a heartfelt note. It should’ve ended there. But it didn’t. Because minutes later, Samantha called the show… and claimed Matt isn’t just Taylor’s boyfriend—he’s her husband. And she’s got the receipts. Today, for the first time, Taylor and Samantha meet on-air. One is Matt’s long-time wife. The other is his live-in girlfriend. Both have no idea the other existed—until now. How long has this double life been going on? What secrets are still buried? And what happens when they team up to confront him? You’re not ready for this episode.This is To Catch a Cheater: The Double Life – Part 2. Think your partner might be up to something shady? The Jubal Show has you covered. In this explosive segment, The Jubal Show helps suspicious lovers uncover the truth by setting up the ultimate loyalty test. We call their significant other, posing as a grocery store’s floral department offering a free bouquet. You know.. a War of the Roses. The catch? Who they choose to send the flowers to—and what they write on the card—could reveal everything. Will it be a romantic gesture for their partner or a shocking betrayal? Get ready for twists, surprises, and jaw-dropping confrontations as we help our listeners get the answers they deserve. Subscribe to The Jubal Show's To Catch A Cheater / War of the Roses.➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely

horrific and quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process.

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do everything is fine I mean we've been a minute since we've been into it together but that's okay. Like we'll get there. Tell her you're going to fix it. Tell her that's what you want. Let's reassure people. Yeah. Like I love you and I want to be with you forever. And I know we'll get through this little moment.

Okay. I'm just, I'm so sorry. I, I'm thinking that you would have cheated on me. And then right after that, actually while she was still on the phone But we couldn't get her back on the phone Samantha called and Samantha is sure that that dude is her husband Samantha hi. Yes. I've been trying to call in this like entire time. Okay That sounds identical to my no that is my husband That sounds identical to my, no, that is my husband.

What? What? That's my, I'm like, I'm so confused. I'm shaking. I don't know what's going on. I don't know why my husband's on the radio with you guys. So the call that we just did with- Yeah, and then he's saying he's married to this woman. I don't understand, that's my husband. I don't understand. That's my husband.

Your husband is Matt. That's my husband, Matt. Yes. Yes. I can't believe this. That's that can't be true. Right. Samantha's on the phone with us right now. We worked it out so we can talk to Taylor in a second so that they can talk. But Samantha, you're still sure that that's your husband? Yeah, I've I've slept on it. Like I've calmed down a bit, but I'm I am even more sure that's my husband.

And now I'm like entering the anger territory. But did you see your husband yesterday? No, he's out of town. He's out of town. OK, where is he right now? Still out of town? Yeah, he said he's in California. But before hearing this, did you think he was cheating on you?

No, I really didn't. I suspected in the past. I know he's cheated on other like previous girlfriends and, you know, but I thought once we got married, that that would all end. And I'm not like entirely surprised. And I hate that I'm saying that. Yeah, I wouldn't put it past them Yeah, did you think about asking him? I?

Honestly, I think he'll try to like explain it away and I like all the pastimes I Want I wanted to catch him I don't think I I want to have something to stay in his face and like And he can't explain his way out of I have his phone number can you is there any way like if you know I mean obviously you would know his phone number so I can compare it to what I have and we go that's a good idea person yeah unless he's got burner energy yes all right I've got it's 745 145 It is the same phone number. Oh Wow Thanks, Samantha. I'm Sorry, we have to talk to yeah, cuz you know his

Girlfriend who I'm sure you know before we talked to her she obviously has no idea. He's married And so he's run game on her so you know I guess not yeah I just want to say it's not her fault. She has no idea Okay, she thought he was cheating on her yes. Yeah, she doesn't. I just want to say it's not her fault. She has no idea. Okay. She thought he was cheating on her. Yeah, she thought he was cheating on her and then you heard it and called up and that's your husband. All right, cool.

Well, we'll play a song, come back, and then we will call Taylor and get you on the phone with her so that you can talk to her about the fact that the dude that was on to catch the cheater yesterday, who was her boyfriend, who sounded very faithful and like it was really honest, really honest is actually your husband. Okay. Oh my God.

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Sounded all good, like he wasn't cheating, but during that whole thing, Samantha was trying to call us, and Samantha is his wife. Mind blowing. And Samantha heard the whole call, called us and was like no that's my husband and And so she hasn't talked to Taylor yet So we're about to call Taylor and get her on the phone with Samantha so that they can try to confer

Yeah, I mean I confirm. I mean, you know 99.9 percent sure exactly Alright, Samantha. Are you ready for us to call Taylor so you guys can talk? Yeah already. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna call right now. Here we go Hello, hey Taylor, it's the Jubal show So much for helping me out are you you just like checking in? What's up? Yeah Calling to check in with you. Um, have you listened back to any of the show at all yesterday? Oh, no Doing like okay. Sorry. I promise I'm a listener though. No, no, it's fine Thank you very much. Yeah

No The reason I'm asking is because yesterday when you were doing the to catch a cheater Something happened and I had wondered if you had heard about it already No Okay After you hung up actually during the whole to catch a cheater Someone was trying to call us and didn't realize it until like after you had already hung up I tried to get your attention and they're on the phone right now and

They want to talk to you about the to catch cheater yesterday Okay, her name is Samantha Samantha either Yeah, yeah, I'm here. Yeah, so Samantha Taylor meet each other. Yeah Hi. Oh my god. This is incredibly awkward. Um, I was kind of hoping that you had heard a little bit on the radio, so I didn't have to like do this. And oh my God, this is a hard, this is a hard thing to tell someone. Um, so I'm not cheating. He is cheating on you because he's my husband. And I was listening and I heard him.

It was 100% him. I was trying to call him the entire time. And then he's like explaining a way of a business trip or something. And it just, it made no sense, but I've verified with, with them and it's, it's 100% my mat and married. And, and so I, I know it's, but we've been together for like three years. Are you serious? Yeah, for three years. I mean, we moved in together six months ago. Like, are you, oh my God. Okay. I gotta say, as possible to this thing, I'm not mad at you.

I am just like, I cannot, I cannot believe that. I like it. I'm like, not gonna like emotional, but like. He's married? Yeah. So we, you've been together for three years, well, we've been married for five. Oh my God. Five years, we've been together for 10.

So, 10 years. I feel like it's like some type of like really messed up joke right now, Like, I don't know. Taylor, yeah, it's not a joke. She called us yesterday and we were able to confirm a couple things with her. That seemed pretty convincing. You can ask her questions to confirm it too, if you want.

Yeah, I know that. I know everything about that man. Except this, I guess, but I can't. I mean, I don't know what to even ask you to confirm. I mean like, you know, just, I guess, I mean brown hair, green eyes. Birthday? Yeah.

When's his birthday? April 5th. Okay. Is that his birthday tater to you? Yes, that is his birthday. Always has his head in the book, always reading a crime. What was that? His mom's is his birthday. Um, always has his head in the book. Always reading a crime. What was that? His mom's name is Teresa. Teresa, his mom? Yeah. Oh, you both know his mother? Yeah. I've met her twice. What? Oh my God. Does she know who

you are, Taylor? Did he introduce you as a girlfriend? Yeah, yeah, he did. He was like, this is my girlfriend too. Wow. I mean, I know I'm, we don't get along me and me and his family. We don't get along at all. We've never gotten along, but that's like a new low. That's a new low. Crazy thing to let your son do. Yeah.

It's just like so toxic. I mean, I know one way that will completely convince you. He has like, from when he used to play baseball, he has like a giant like kind of scar on the inside of his leg. What the fuck? Like, are you kidding me right now? I, what the actual is going on? This is ridiculous.

Like I know that like everything you're saying is true, but it just does not make sense to me in any way, shape or form. It doesn't make sense to me either. It really doesn't. This man is living a double life. He's f***ed up obviously. His whole family's f***ed up. So Samantha, he's told you he's out of town right? Uh-huh. Yeah he travels he does travel a lot for work. Okay. Three weeks out of the month. And Taylor, I'm just gonna identify you guys so people know, Samantha is the wife of this guy, Taylor is his girlfriend of three years. Taylor, has he been to your place?

You guys moved in together six months ago, or is he also out of town on business? He's out of town right now. Oh my gosh, if you tell me there's a third, I'm gonna lose my mind. Okay well how about this I mean do you guys obviously want to catch him right? I mean you know Samantha you heard this yesterday and Taylor he lied to you yesterday. I can't I've been a good ass. I've had 24 hours of like fear to like completely feeling okay about it and now just being so completely angry I just want like complete closure at this point.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Um, do you guys want to do a to catch a cheater tomorrow together and we don't even have to do all the like flower stuff. We can just have you both on so he can be caught. He deserves it. I want anything to catch him, embarrass him, whatever. I'm in. I don't know. I don't know if I can do this again. This man will keep doing this. And if he's out of town and has someone else, like you know how good he is at explaining

things away. I'm sure you can't let him get away with this. I need your, I honestly, I need your help because I want to throw everything in his face and I need your help. Okay. Yeah, I'll do it. Okay. Thank you.

Well, so when you guys talk to him today, as hard as it's going to be, try not to tip him off that you guys met and everything. Okay. Act normal. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that is the right decision to do it, Taylor, because I mean, also you don't want him to talk you back into normal. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that is the right decision to do it, Taylor. Cause I mean, also you don't want him to talk you back into staying. Yeah.

If he tries to twist this in any way, what do you say he is a psychopath, a sociopath? I don't know. The kind that can just lie to people's faces and have two lives. He's a cheater and he's about to get caught tomorrow. Okay. Well, we will talk to you guys this same time tomorrow then and we'll call him and you guys can confront him. Great. Okay all right Taylor I'm really sorry Samantha I'm also sorry. Oh my gosh yeah. Thank you. Thank you. We'll talk to you

guys tomorrow okay? Breathe, wine. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women

are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind Boy Sober, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, Boy Sober is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.

Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've seen a lot of stuff over 30 years, some very despicable crime and things that are kind of tough to wrap your head around. And this ranks right up there in the pantheon of Rhode Island fraudsters. I've always been told I'm a really good listener, right? And I maximized that while I was lying. Listen to deep cover, The Truth About Sarah,

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Being able to say I feel like crying, so I will cry. Today, I'm a little depressed. May is Mental Health Awareness Month and deeply well is a sanctuary for your healing. I'm Debbie Brown, healer, well being expert, teacher and fellow seeker. And each week we explore what it means to become whole through soul-expanding conversations and practices. Today, wow, I feel really powerful and ready to

serve and use my skills. And it's like, that's the heart of what it is to be an authentic woman. To hear this and more ways to prioritize your piece, listen to Deeply Well from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your piece. Listen to Deeply Well from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T. Connecting changes everything. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.