First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Brayden & Lizzie - When Taylor Swift Lyrics Take Over a First Date

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

Brayden thought he had the perfect night planned—a rooftop wine bar, a romantic vibe, and even a few well-placed Taylor Swift references. But now he’s getting ghosted, and the reason might be more cringeworthy than he realizes. Is his “Travis-and-Taylor” fantasy to blame? Listen to this hilarious First Date Follow Up on The Jubal Show to find out what really went wrong. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports Network. First date of follow-up, powered by the advocates injury attorneys, online at Advocateslaw.com. Braden is on the phone today for a first day. follow up and he's getting ghosted by Lizzie so in a few minutes we'll call her and see if she tells us why she's ghosting him

and maybe get him a second date but first Braden how long has it been since you heard from Lizzie hey so I feel like it's been five days okay how many times have you reached out in five days? A couple times and nothing

nothing no response no no like you know dots like you know the text like no nothing like that wow okay so why do you think you want to get a hold of her so bad was the date great I mean yeah I thought so we went to this rooftop wine bar downtown with a great view you know see the whole city skyline lit up in the light breeze she told me she was a music teacher and I knew she loves Taylor Swift so I thought

I'd be smooth and got a little Taylor lyric in there like I said I don't know about you but I was feeling 22. She liked that. She laughed, like, smiles, but I thought I nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, after that, like, you just, it just clicked. I felt like it clicked. We were extra affectionate, holding hands,

like, touches on the back, partially legs under the table. It was, you know, it was super sensual, but still innocent, you know, like in its own way. She told me physical touches one of her mulling. She's still he leaned in on that. It felt electric.

okay was she leaning into the physical touch as well or she was just receiving it felt like she was leaning in too like she made me feel out of ease like I've been on dates I feel like I'm the one performing but with whizzy it was like we were in our own bubble she's beautiful I got at a moment where I was like okay you know this is someone I can see myself with oh wow how does the date end between the two of you um there's a moment when we were sitting close holding hands and I went to reach for her hand on the table, but I, let's say, I miscalculated, and I grabbed between her legs. Oh, okay.

That could be an issue. I know. I know. I'm laughing. It's kind of funny, but alarming as well. I felt awful. She's joking. She was like, what are you doing?

And I was like, I immediately let go. And I was like, I'm sorry, like 10 times. And he was an accident. And I told her it was an accident. It's not as recovered, but maybe she thinks I was trying to get fresh, like, way too soon. I swear it was just bad. Yeah, that's a bad accident there. I felt awful.

It was not so great ending to a great date. So it ended with the grab? Yeah. That's probably the reason she's ghosting you if it ended after that, I don't think. What did she say? She was like, it's fine, fine. And then, I don't know. and then it just kind of ended.

Oh, no, Brayden. Yeah, you know, honestly, like, one of the texts like I sent her, I dropped like a mother too, which is my reference. I was like, um, uh, it's me, hi, I'm the problem. It's me, you know, with that song. I thought I was being funny with that, but. And nothing. Nothing.

Not even a ha-ha. Man. Usually Taylor Swift can fix everything. Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song and come back and then call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date, okay?

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Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

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a second and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date but first brayden why don't you break down your situation and what happened on your date again real quick well we we like i said we went to this rooftop wine bar downtown um we were getting along really well um we were both you know extra like i said extra affectionate with each other physical touch it was like a love language but then i i accidentally like reached for an area I wasn't supposed to, and she didn't like that, and I was, like, really sorry. I did not need to do that at all. And after that, you know, just the passion kind of fizzled towards the end.

But I just had a great time before then. You just imagine. Yeah, you don't want that to be the reason everything before that goes away. Yeah. All right. Are you ready for us to call her? Yeah, I'm ready. All right, here we go.

Hello. Hey, may I speak to Lizzie, please. Hey, this is Lizzie. Hi, Lizzie. How are you? This is a radio show, and it's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Lizzie. I'm Nina.

Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. How are you? Oh, wow. Okay. This is real? Yes. Yeah.

Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard these before. Hi. Oh, sweet. Hey, so what's up? How are you doing? You're doing good?

Anything cool? Yeah. So I imagine you're calling because I'm ghosting Braden. Yes. And I imagine Braden is on the phone and is going to hear what I have to say. Yep, he sure is. You really know what's going on. Okay, cool.

Can we hold off on letting him join? I just kind of want to give you my... Sure. I want to see what happens. This is the easiest first day follow him ever. Yeah, absolutely. Lizzie, why are you ghosting him? So we had a very sweet day.

It was fun. It was like really couldn't have been more perfect up until a few kind of red flags popped up. He just kept saying that he was looking for the Taylor to his Travis, which seems cute at first. But it really became the entire conversation, the entire day it took over. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelly. see references or you guys are talking about them getting engaged the whole time? No, it was the references.

Like, he knew so much about Travis, about the Super Bowl championship, about what the leader he is, and then he was basically saying that since I'm a music teacher, it's like I'm halfway there to being his tailor. Like, oh, okay.

Well, that's kind of cute. Is he athletic, like, Travis? I mean, he would say it. very good looking guy but it was just way too much and I just don't want to be a part of some sort of made up plan in his mind of some power couples yeah like even when I walked in he made a reference to a song like oh I knew you were a trouble when you walked in and even like you know we're on the rooftop he thought it was like a special moment to say something like I'm feeling 22 um yeah so he's just non-stop Taylor Swift references

Well, he said you liked Taylor Swift. Do you like Taylor Swift? Well, yeah. I mean, I think who doesn't like Taylor Swift? I mean, it's exciting to think about, like, a partner that might want to, like, listen to music with me and things like that. But this can't be all that we talk about. And it was just too much. All right.

Well, thank you for telling us. So, you're going to bring him on now, huh? Yeah. I am. Braden's on the phone and wants to talk to you. Or should we call him, Travis? Yeah. I would have you.

okay louis you hear me out all right this was all meant to be romantic like we could have been with a great team like NFL star and granny winner energy like you got to dream big okay braden i teach middle school choir i'm not like a superstar you know yeah well you know what every superstar starts in middle school choir taylor probably sang hot cross buns once too Okay. That's not helping your case, Brayden. I think you have this idea in your mind. Look, I mean, Lizzie, I don't want any, you know, bad blood between us. I just feel like, I'm just trying to, like, make this, I felt like we had something real special here. And I, I feel like, you know, with your similarity with Taylor and my similarities to Travis, I was just, that's just kind of how I was imagining it. Brian, I don't really know how to say this nicely, but I think it's great that you are so into Taylor and you're so into Travis, and we have that in common, but the level of, the level of love you have for them, like, I'm not there.

This is not where I'm at. And, and Braden, what similarities do you have to Travis exactly that I miss? Like, with all due respect, like, well, the thing is, okay, maybe aside from the fact that I played a little football when I was a kid, I think I'm in a pretty good shape, but also, have you seen how much Travis loves Taylor? Like, he adores her, and I feel like I could be like that, too. I can snatch that energy. When I love, I love heart. Whoa.

Wow. Wow. Okay. Brian, I don't really know how to move on from this conversation. It's just way over my head at this point. Well, the thing is, like, I don't think you should run for love. Like, I really believe in it. I really believe in staying there.

I don't think I'm just a big believer of that, you know, like Travis Kelsey. Yeah, I mean, I love to, but this is just not, I don't know a nice way to put this, but, Brigham, this is weird. This is very, very weird. And somebody else might match you a weird, but I'm not, I'm not matching you weird. Okay. I mean, that's what I'm sorry. Braden, are you, are you okay?

I'll be okay. Well, let's make sure on something here. Lizzie, would you like to go on another date with Braden? We'll pay for it. No, no, thank you for offering to cover the next date. Brian, listen, I'm really sorry, and I'm sure there's somebody out there that would be a really good match for you. Okay, well, I'm sure. I'll find my Taylor someday.

Maybe when I'm in a luxury suite with my future Taylor at the next tour, the next Aeros tour, just know that it'll be you I'm waving at at the Jumbotron. And now I'm just like, oh, fuck, love. Oh, God. Joubles' first date follow-up. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The Holiday Rush. Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys.

Then everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. I'm seriously suspicious.

Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome home. I'm Angela Ride, co-host of the Native Lampod with Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross, and we want y'all to survive and thrive in this political moment. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country. I'm terrified that in our rest, we're going to miss the moment. You want me to stop resting. What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action. Listen to Native Lampod on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

The U.S. Open is here, and on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure, and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very wonderfully experiential sporting event. To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novarton.

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