First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Caleb & McKenna - He Thought the Date Went Great… Until Instagram Ruined Everything

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Caleb was convinced his night out with McKenna was a success—until she completely ghosted him. In this First Date Follow Up on The Jubal Show, we dig into what went wrong after their seemingly perfect evening. Was it something from his past, something she saw at his place, or could social media be to blame? The truth comes out in a way you won’t see coming. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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ghosting in. But first, Caleb, how long has it been since you heard from McKenna? Well, let's see. I guess it's been about a week now. Yeah, since I heard. We left things I mean, as far as I thought, we left things pretty good. We had actually texted

that same day later to hang out again. She seemed excited. So, I don't know why it's been a week. So, well, then let's go backwards, because you did have an interaction with her that sounded good. So how did you meet her?

What was your date like? Well, the date was great. Well, I met her actually at a work event several years ago, and we went on a date back then. But we, I guess, I know I wasn't really looking for anything serious at the time. I had some family, well, and some work stuff going on. And I could tell she seemed busy, but we had a great time, had some drinks. There was, I thought, some chemistry and wound up just kind of hanging out for the night.

And that was it, just sort of lost touch. But at this point, you know, I guess it's been, I guess it had been almost six years. I reached back out just to see what she was up to. And if she wanted to meet up and she said yes. I thought we had a great night. We did some bar hopping, had some food. she had too many drinks that night I do remember so she wound up coming and staying at my place

but it was innocent I mean we hung out there was some cuddling some kisses whatever but she left in the morning I had some coffee and I thought we were going to do this again and then I just did not hear back from her and I'm so confused so did she say that she wanted to do it again

yeah yeah I mean in the last text, we were, she was, it was like she was just waiting for me to reach out and kind of plan something. And then when I, I reached right out, I just never heard anything. Is there anything you can think of? There would be a reason to get ghosted? I don't know. I've racked my brain. Like, I thought of the, I guess I had, so my ex-girlfriend, which has been months and months ago, um, I know she had left some stuff in the apartment. I got rid of a lot of it, but I did, I noticed a couple days ago there's like a her deodorant stick was still

like in that side drawer that I usually keep open so like maybe she saw that and thought something what's going on but I'm kind of grasping at straws I mean I just I don't know I I've seen shampoo in the shower before that was a woman's and I was like I don't know about all this really yeah that didn't

make me feel good yeah that could be a reason I get I get that it's just she could have asked I mean I'm not fair yeah yeah well we'll see if we can figure it out for you then. We'll play a song, come back and then call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date, okay? Cool, thank you.

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Right in the middle of your first day follow up. If you're just joining us, Caleb is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by McKenna. So in a second, we're going to call her and see if she'll tell us

why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But first, Caleb, why don't you refresh our memory on her date with McKenna? Yeah, so McKenna and I had a great date. You know, this was the second time I had reached out of her years ago. Timing wasn't right, but yeah, I thought we really hit it off on this last, this last date,

and she wound up coming to stay in the night. Everything seemed cool. We had plans to move forward, and then it's been a week now, and I cannot get in touch with her. So I don't know. My ex-girlfriend had left some stuff at the house, like deodorant, I don't know, something. Maybe that had something to do with it. She saw that and got some ideas, but I'm racking my brain just trying to figure out because we had a great time.

Chemistry was there. Just haven't heard from her. All right. Are you ready for us to call her? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Here we go. Hi, may I speak to McKenna, please.

Um, this is McKenna. McKenna, how are you? This is Jubal. I'm calling from a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, McKenna. I'm Nina, also on the show. Hi, and I'm Victoria.

Hi. How are you? I'm good. Have you ever listened to the show before? Um, yes, I've listened to it, so I'm just curious what's going on. Okay. Well, we do a segment called the first date follow-up. That's where if you go out with somebody on a date and you ghost them, they can email us.

to get you on the phone and ask you why you're ghosting them. Oh, yeah. Do you have any idea who would ask us to call you? I have some thoughts, but I don't know what's going on. His name is Caleb. Was that your thought? Yeah. Caleb emailed us, told us about your date.

He said he had a great time, and he's wondering why you're not calling him back. I mean, we did have a great time, and, you know, I had liked him before when we met at a work party years before and so I was excited to hear from him and we went to a bunch of bars and I had a little too much to drink and he was really kind enough and took care of me and I had a great time and you know you want to kind of follow up what people have done up to and so it just happened to have seen his IG like the night before we went out and then afterwards i just wanted to see if there was anything on there and i noticed that he had followed a bunch of people and so when i looked to see it um he randomly followed like 10 bikini

models and i showed it to my girlfriend and she said it's like a red flag and so i'm just really not about that vibe if that's what he wants then that's fine i don't need to you know get involved with someone who's about that wait are you are you stalking me that's Caleb Caleb is actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you you're on my Instagram looking at

who I'm following what is that about I haven't seen you in six years and pop into my DM and of course I'm going to look at your IG it's normal well so is following people on Instagram I don't understand

all bikini models like you know after you spent time with me and we had a good time and your go-to is to go follow bikini models? No. All that is is eye candy. It doesn't even mean anything.

It's just what guys do. I'm a guy. After spending time with me? Yes, you're correct. A typical guy. So that's what I don't want is a typical guy who's going to follow bikini models

after spending time with me. okay well i probably don't need somebody policing what i can look at and interact with i i thought we had a great time together it happened really i thought you were adorable and then i just noticed and it was it's what people do when you haven't seen each other for six years is to see and you're the one that dm me on your account so of course i'm going to look at your iG why are you following became models. Well, in my defense, I, after our date, I went and hung out with my buddies and Nick was there. I told you about Nick. We were all watching some of the old, older Olympic videos and stuff, and that got us looking on Instagram, and one of my friends grabbed my phone and clicked a bunch of them. I didn't realize I was following them anyway, but if I follow them, that shouldn't be a problem. It's just what guys do. You, your guy friend followed 15 bikini models all at the same time. He just happened to go through that.

All at the same time. Well, I mean, he added some and then we were going through. I added some. It was just stupid. We were just looking at girls. I was honestly so excited about the date. That's how it all started as I was talking about you and I showed them a photo and that's where they took it. McKenna, what is it about these bikini models that's making you

upset i mean it's just like i don't know i just it was literally after our date so the timing of it like yeah it's the timing of it and so then it just seems like he's not serious i'm looking for someone serious if he wants eye candy go get the eye candy i mean i believe like i'm a beautiful woman and i deserve someone whose attention is on me and not on bikini models that he may never ever meet she wants to be your eye candy Caleb McKenna you are my eye candy these girls on Instagram it's all fake anyway it doesn't add up to anything

it's a pipe dream you're the real deal that it doesn't make sense that you would do that immediately after our date like why would you do that I mean we had a great time

it just ruined my perception of you but that is what is more important to you is this eye candy girls like there was and it wasn't it wasn't just fun it was like a it felt like a million to the 15 Well, you, I mean, yeah, I followed some girls, but you followed Chris Hemsworth, like, right after our age.

How do you know that? So you looked at my account. Is that what you're saying? After you're doing me crap about looking at your account? So you brought this up. It didn't actually bother me. Apparently you have to get you. But you're throwing it back in my face.

something that you said that was wrong for me to do, you were throwing it back in my face. That's kind of cute, guys. You're stalking each other. It's like you guys have been together for a while. McKenna, would you like another date with Caleb? We'll pay for it.

No, I don't think so. I mean, if that's his go-to right after a date, like, I, you know, I don't need to be worrying about if he's looking at other girls. That's what I don't want to be worrying about. And if that's his immediate reaction after our first date,

then I don't want that kind of energy. So he made you feel insecure right away. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm pretty secure, but if that's, that's what your go-to is after our date, like that's not the energy that I want. I, for one, don't need my social interactions micromanaged, and it does sound like an insecurity issue to me, which shouldn't exist, but that's what it sounds like. Well, good luck to you with those bikini models. Yeah, McKenna, thank you. And good luck with Chris Hemsworth. I really think you guys should go on another date. Juba's first date follow-up.

All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours.

Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill because she's going to keep it a century. Because in America, what sells in politics, our narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason

why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just like great shoes,

great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked.

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