First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Cassidy & Luke - Soup, Salt, and Second Chances: The First Date That Got a Little... Seasoned

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

What do artisanal salt grinders, passionate monologues, and an unexpected hand kiss have in common? They’re all part of one unforgettable first date that left Cassidy ghosting — and Luke scratching his head. On this episode of The Jubal Show’s First Date Follow Up, we dive into a bougie bistro night gone sideways, complete with conspiracy theories, spicy soup, and a “sodium narrative” you'll never forget. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and maybe get him another date if he still wants one but first Luke how long has it been since you heard from Cassidy oh man now it's been something like two weeks oh it's a while yeah we just we just had such a great date like it was just

it was a great time you know we um we went uh we went out to this this bistro and it's kind of like kind of like a boozy bistro with like you know mason jar cocktails and stuff like that oh i love that yeah um right we both we both ordered soup which was which is important um soup is really revealing like the way you eat soup um kind of tells can tell can tell me pretty much everything i need to know about a person um and uh she she slurped away with this this confidence which i really dug i thought it was really

really, I don't know, confident and I felt like it was wifie energy. I even told her that was white-y energy. Okay, so you like... You liked a slurp. Yeah, I definitely, I dug the slurp. I dug the slurp. It was confident and kind of sexy.

I told her it was wisy energy. Oh, okay. How does she react to you when you told her she was wifie energy? I mean, I think it was okay. I meant it as a compliment, and it would seem charming in the moment, anyway so she seemed she seemed fine with it and kind of we laughed about it you know we continued

talking and joking we could joke a lot about conspiracy theories and whatnot and then at the end of the date i walked her back to her car and i kissed her hand like gallantly like you know as you do um but ever since unfortunately it's been just radio silence like complete blackout i've sent two texts the basic you know nothing crazy just i can't wait to see you again and how's your day and that's it i haven't heard anything back do you think was she expecting like a kiss at the end of the night like you kissed her hand but was she kind of waiting around for you to make a bigger move i don't know i i i kissed her hand kind of because i didn't i'm not good at reading those moments and it's just the safest bet you know what i mean so i i went i went in for the kiss of

the hand whether or not she would have reciprocated if i did more that I really don't know. I don't know. I'm glad I left it there. I feel more confident there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it sounds like it was a good date, though.

What do you think went wrong? Well, one thing that I've kind of been like overthinking in my head was when I did kiss her hand, like my nose was running pretty much the entire night from the amount of spicy food I was eating. And I'm afraid that as I kissed her hand, my, you know, my gross dog. nose might have touched her hand as well. Oh. And yeah, that's what I'm... Okay.

I mean, there's a chance. Okay. So maybe it's just because your nose might have got her hand wet. Oh, I see. All right. Well, we'll see if that is the reason. We'll play a song, come back, and then call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you.

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About to. I'm sorry, Luke. Call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But before we do that, Luke, why don't you break down your date again real quick? Great, classy cocktails and mason jars. Really nice soup. She slurped her soup.

That was nice. And then wet dog nose and radio silence. This sounds like a game. Is it like? You ready for us to call her? Yes, yes. All right, here we go. Hello?

Hi, may I speak to Cassidy, please? Who is this? Hey, Cassidy, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Cassidy, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. Why are you calling me?

Oh, well, we're calling you. Have you ever listened to the show before? it's been a while we do a segment on the show called the first date follow up that's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting so we got an email

about you from somebody okay um yeah who is the email from is there anybody that you're currently ghosting that you know of there's a couple contenders catch me up well his name is

Luke oh my god soup guy soup guy yeah what does that mean he was really into soup but

it wasn't as weird as it sounds I mean it was a fun date he's a really sweet guy I mean like aggressively sweet like picture a hallmark movie protagonist who owns a sled dog rescue I mean

it was like He's a Labrador Retriever. I don't know why I'm thinking of dogs. That's a good description. I ghosted him because he carried a travel-sized spice salt grinder in his coat. Like he opened up his coat. He brought his own spicy salt to a restaurant. I don't know.

It's just really like a flavor missionary. I don't know. Mid-soup, he just pulled out this tiny little artisanal grinder. Like he's on a cook. cooking show. It was glass. It was like fancy. And he just went on and on about how this magical salt balances the heat and the salty flavor perfectly. It was just a lot. Was it like one of those grinders? Like I don't know. I'm thinking of like those mini houses. You know how people like mini things. It just is it that time? Was it that time?

Arizona's huge restaurant grinders. It looked like it looked exactly like those huge restaurant grinders, but it was just small. I mean, not quite as small as like a dollhouse size. But like It was like an inch, an inch and a half tall. It was tiny. I've never seen anything like it. That's adorable. I mean, that wasn't the, it wasn't just the grinder. It was like the monologue he had around it.

He said, what did you say? He said, um, restaurant salt is basic. I like to control my sodium narrative. That was the actual sentence. My sodium narrative? Yes, I've been telling everybody all week. He likes to control his sodium narrative. Because restaurant salt is.

Amazing. Super this is truth. I mean, I don't know. What am I supposed to say to that? I don't know, but I just so feel so jealous. I didn't sit and hear this monologue firsthand. Like, this is incredible. Yeah.

I mean, I think everybody should control their sodium narrative. It's your sodium. Well, yeah. You know, don't let somebody else tell you your sodium story. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess I agree with that. But I just, I was just taken aback. Okay.

All right. Well, I'll let you know now that Luke is actually on the phone and listening and wants to talk to you. So, right. Wait, that's why it was my spicy salt. Hey, Luke, hey. Hi, yes. You brought a spice rack to our first date. It's not a spice rat.

It was a grinder. And it's Himalayan pink Cabanero. Low sodium, higher complexity. And you liked the soup. Yeah, the soup was fine. The soup was fine. It was the TED talk that followed it. that turned me into an escape artist.

I've got to be honest. You said you like people with big taste. I meant like people who order spicy margaritas, not people who smuggles seasoning into restaurants. Like it's contraband. I don't understand. I mean, it's just a small thing of Himalayan sea salt and habanero spice. It's tasty.

I mean, I understand people having, like, candies, like a hard candy. if it's a grandma with a hard candy in her purse it's fine if it's a man with a spice rack in his jacket coat pocket it gets a little weird I'm sorry I just I just I can't handle the table salt the table salt does my head in so I just kind of figure I'm one step ahead of the game by bringing my home

I don't think that's too crazy okay I can I totally get that I can live with you needing your own fault it's just it's the monologue that comes along with it because I don't want my entire date to be about the salt and the thing you've just done with your pocket in the salt grinder. I am a passionate man. And when I like something, I like it with everything I have. And I just really, really like this salt. I mean, I don't see how that. Nobody's ever given me a hard time about it before. I mean, a little bit of comments and maybe a little bit of ragging, but nothing. Nobody's ghosted me over it. You know? That's fair. I'm sorry that I ghosted you. I was

just a little overwhelmed by all. You're right. I do like a person that's passionate about things. I just didn't know where to go from sodium. I am a passionate man. I'm passionate about salt. I'm passionate about my Lubbubu collection. And we haven't mentioned this before,

but I'm passionate about you too, Cassidy. Whoa. Oh. There you go. Cassidy, would you like to go out with Luke again? We'll pay for it. Can we just back it up? Did you say, um, did you say Labuboos?

Like the ugly Beanie Babies? Is that what you're talking about? They are not ugly. That just broke my heart a little bit. I'm passionate about Labububos and I have an awesome collection that I'd love for you to meet one time. What do you think, Cassidy? Guys on the radio, I just need you to understand this about Luke. He is, he is objectively extremely hot.

Like, that is why I went on this date with him. I know he sounds real weird. He's easily hot. I think he sounds like he's just got some interests. It's just cool, you know. Yeah, it's passionate. I do appreciate a passionate guy. But he's got a booboos now, too.

You know, I do like loose. I mean, I did have a fun time. Listen, I will leave the salt grinder at home along with all the conversations about soup and sodium levels. all that good stuff i'll leave all that stuff at home if you want to come out for another second day give me one more check but i will warn you if we ever go out to breakfast i do have a little thing about syrups oh my gosh you're ridiculous um i'll bite let's do another day let's see where this goes yay congratulations luke awesome you won't regret it thank you so much cassidy

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