First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Did she intrude on his friends time or the other way around?

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

First Date Follow Up is when we get an email from someone who went on a date and the other person isn't calling back. We get that other person on the phone to see why they're "ghosting".Robyn Lynn is on the phone and is not getting a call back from a guy named Ken! Robin Lynn and Ken met on Tinder and they went wine tasting with a few of his friends! It was Robin, Ken, and 3 friends. Robin thought it was a good time but his friends were a little harder to have fun with, because they were hard to connect with!Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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She's not getting a call back, though, so we'll see if we can figure out why and see if we can get her another date with Ken in just a second. Robin, thank you for your email. How are you? Hi, thanks. I'm doing okay. How are you? I'm well, thank you for asking. He's eating his breakfast. Yeah, sorry. I was taking a sip of my smoothie. Oh. Can I call you Robin, or are you one of those people that it has to be Robin, Lynn? It has to be both names? No, I go by Robin. Thank you. Well, I'm going to call you Robin Lin.

Robin Lin. Tell us a little bit about Ken, the guy who's not calling you back. Okay. Yeah, so I went out with this guy, Ken. I really liked him. We had met on Tinder and we texted for a few weeks. We decided to go on a date and he invited me to go wine tasting with a few of his friends because he was already going. Yeah. So he just added me on to that. Honestly, I was kind of nervous because it's not usually

a first date. It's just two people and And it was Tim and three of his friends. Yeah, that would be super annoying actually. And like uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. That would be weird. Just you and three friends. Like, yeah, that would be.

Honestly, it really was. And so I really liked him though. We, like I said, we had been texting, we had met on Tinder. So I went, I thought it went really well, but I did have a hard time sitting in with his friends. They were, to be honest, kind of a little mean, like really short conversations. Weird. Like with you?

Yeah. Like, you know, when there's like an outsider and people are all really tight and I just, I definitely felt on the outside. And I also kind of found myself like laughing at anything to overcompensate. So I definitely was awkward. They don't want their friend to like get in a new relationship. Yeah, exactly. So that was awkward.

But you know what? I've had friends be like that before. And like, it made me angry. Honestly, it wasn't even necessarily someone I was dating. But you bring somebody new around your friends. It could be someone that you just met that you want to hang out with and be friends with. Like I got another for me another dude right and i have had groups of friends that have been very closed off to any new people i felt bad for

the person that i brought along also i felt bad for me because like nobody's really talking to me so it's just me and this new person because i wanted to get to know them as well standing over there trying to be a part of the group but then nobody will talk to because they just don't want a new person right away or they seems like they're judging or something. And it was really frustrating, so maybe that's what was going on. Yeah, well, you know, he was actually really nice. So I do think that might have been going on. Like, Ken and I had good conversation.

We had good wine. I felt like we connected. In fact, he brought me home after the date and we even kissed. So I thought, okay, this is good, right? And then we texted for a day or two after the date and then he just ghosted. He's not gotten back to me. I know he's on Facebook because he's posting on Facebook. I texted him twice, you know, and I feel like that's enough.

I can't text him again. So I just, I wanted to call you guys you have any idea why yeah like anything in his text messages seemed different or like a like a time during the date that went awkward i can't think of anything the text seemed normal and it the only thing i can think of is that it was awkward with his friend yeah i mean it sounds like his friends just didn't want anybody else there. You know, some people will listen to their friends if they're friends. They'll bring somebody around their friends.

And if their friends are like, we don't like them, then they won't call him back. But if it seemed like they didn't like you, don't take it personal. They might be a-holes, not you. Also, I don't know you that well, Robin, then. But you don't sound like you would be. But yeah, so maybe they're telling him that he shouldn't date you for some reason, which is he should make his own decisions. Yeah, totally. When we call him and try to find out if that is the reason, which is he should make his own decisions. Yeah, totally. When we call him and try to find out if that is the reason, would you still want to go out with him again? If I would want to go out with him if he actually stood up for me, yeah.

Like if that's the reason and then he realizes that's not a good reason, then I would give him another chance because I did really like him. And I can't really think of any other reason than that his friends didn't like me. Like, other than that, I thought it went really great. Okay. Well, we'll play a song, come back, and then call him and see if we can figure out why he's not calling you back and maybe get you another date with your first date follow-up next. If you're just joining us for today's first date follow-up,

Robin Lynn is on the phone, and she's not getting a call back from Ken. And I hope that we find out why right now. And I hope that they date and I hope that they get married so it can be Robin Lynn and Ken forever. It just sounds super good. It flows. It does flow. And we're about to call him right now and see why he's been ghosting Robin Lynn.

Because they met on Tinder, actually went wine tasting with some of Ken's friends. That also kind of rhymes too. I'm not going to be able to get that out of my head. I apologize in advance for getting distracted so much during this. But I promise you we'll get to the point. Anyway, she went wine tasting with Ken and his friends. It happened again. And she thought the date went well, but she thinks the reason that she's not getting a

callback is because maybe his friends didn't like her very much because they were standoffish. They didn't really talk to her. She said they seemed kind of rude. Other than that, Robin Lynn says she can't think of another reason that Ken would be ghosting her. All right, Robin, you ready to call him? Yes, I'm ready. Thank you. Okay, here we go. I'm going to dial this phone number right now. Hello? Hey, can I speak to Ken, please?

This is Jake. Hey, Ken. How are you? My name is Jubal, and I'm calling from a radio show called The Jubal Show. And my name is Alex from the same show. And I'm Christian Gray Snow, also from the same show. Oh, okay. That's a surprise.

This is cool. How are you guys doing? Oh, pretty good. So you've listened to the show before? Yeah, once or twice. Yeah. What's going on? Once or twice. Dude, I love it the show before? Yeah, once or twice. Yeah, what's going on? Once or twice, dude, I love it. Not three times, only once or twice.

Not three times, that's your once or twice. Yeah, you get that third time you're in too deep, you can't turn it off, then you're stuck. Three times was the charm, right? Yeah. Well, we're calling you today because we actually got an email about you from one of our listeners who wanted us to get in contact with you. Oh, okay.

Okay, so you've listened a couple times. I don't know if you're aware of a segment that we do called the First Date Follow-Up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then end up ghosting them, they can email us to get you on the phone and ask what happened. And we got an email from Robin Lynn, who you took wine tasting, and now now you're ghosting her and she wants to know why. So we're wondering if you could tell us why. Oh. Okay. This is awkward. What did she say to you?

Well, she said that she met you on Tinder and that she thought you were supes cool. That's my words, not hers. But she thought you were cool. She liked you a lot And she said that She went wine tasting with you And she had a good time

Wine tasting She really liked you She thought your friends Seemed a little standoffish And then she said When you dropped her off You guys kissed And that's the last

She's heard from you And she doesn't know why That's pretty much All she told us I mean No I mean I mean I thought she was pretty cool

I guess Sometimes things are easier Via text To discuss I mean, I thought she was pretty cool. I guess sometimes things are easier via text to discuss. My friends are normally a good judge of character. For some reason, they just didn't think she was right. They thought she was a little too talkative or annoying. I don't know. After a few days, I was talking about it with them again. And I just I felt kind of bad, but too much time had gone by.

So I just felt awkward to call or text. I didn't know what to do. So you thought you were wrong because you trusted your friends on that? I guess I was afraid of what my friends would think if I was actually honest and I basically said F you to them. Yeah, I want to know why was the opinion of your friends so important after a first date? I mean, I get that your friends maybe weren't vibing with her, but... Did they give her a chance? Yeah, at some point they need to mind their own business. I mean, their opinion means a lot to me. Like, for instance, one of my friends, Patrick, you know, he's not had anybody in a while. He's been single for a long time, and he's bitter.

He's bitter. A little bit bitter, you know? Okay, so he's single, so he wants everybody around him to be single and not in a relationship. He's afraid of losing people. Oh, man. Misery needs company. Oh, yep. Hey, look, he's a jerk, man. He's a everybody I have have and whatever everybody else brings you know somebody around he's a jerk to them too and it's obvious because he's insecure maybe you should surround yourself with people who clap when you win you're right so you didn't call her back because of patrick i just thought too much time had gone by like i

said i was afraid i just messed it up and she didn't want to hear from me. Times a matter of things. But also, I will have to say, I would be offended if I were her and found out at any point that even if you were eventually into me, I don't care that you even got stopped for a second because of your friends. You know what I mean? Have some decency. There are friends that do that. They try to

ruin relationships for you because they're not in one. They don't want you to be in one. I feel like I screwed up and I shouldn't have listened to my friends, but I just, I felt like too much time had gone by. Okay. But, you know, honestly, I mean, I pull up her Facebook picture and I look at it because I just, I feel like I missed out. So, yeah, I like to look at her picture at least.

Pretty sad. Yeah. You could actually be talking to her in person in real life, I think. I wish, I wish. Well, lucky for you. You must have rubbed my belly because anybody who rubs my belly gets a wish.

So you must have done that recently. Because she's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. Oh, wow. Hey, Ken. Hey, Robin, how are you, Ken. Hey, Robin. How are you? Surprise.

Hi. I mean, I'm okay. I'm a little embarrassed that you ghosted me because of your friends. To be honest, they're weirdos. They made everything awkward. Seriously, they made everything awkward, and now I get it. It's because they don't like me, and I think maybe

they have a crush on you. I don't know. They're my friends, and whoever I date should be able to get along with them. You know, I know that sounds... What if they don't get along with anybody? Yeah, it might not be her fault. It could be your friend's fault. Yeah, that's true. Sounds like that Patrick dude that you have,

you know, he tries to ruin everybody's chances of dating. Yeah, man. He was especially rough. Yeah, he was a sad Patrick. Sad Patrick. I don't know. I kind of feel like that's the stupid reason, like on a first date. Like we were clicking, you know, so why let that get in the way?

Look, I probably should not have brought you along with my friends. We should have probably just gone on a first date together. They can be **** and that wasn't fair to you. Thanks. Thank you. I appreciate that because I really do think if it was just the two of us, then I can be myself more. I was just, I was really nervous.

Well, Ken, would you like to go on another date with Robin Lynn? Yeah. We'll pay for it. I would. Yeah, I would love to. Yay! Okay. I'll do it over again.

Awesome. Congrats, guys. Congratulations, Robin. Yeah, but the thing is, Ken, I don't think I really want to go out with you again. Oh, what? Wow. Listen, look, I'm sorry.

I apologize. After listening to you, no. Just no. I want someone who's right. I get it. I want someone who's going to stand up to their friends. Yeah, I mean, good for her.

And you should like his friends, right? She doesn't like your friends. Next time I see Patrick, I'm going to kick him in the balls. Yikes. He's a sad Patrick. The Jubal Show on demand. We're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.

More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Consider this is a daily news podcast and, the news is about a big question.

How much can one guy change? They want change. What will change look like for energy? Drill, baby, drill. Schools? Take the Department of Education, close it. Health care? Better and less expensive.

Follow coverage of a changing country. Promises made, promises kept. We're going to keep our promises. On Consider This from NPR. Listen on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin of the Kingdom Third. And together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends, Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter. Listen to My Legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy.