First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Did She Play to Win… or Cross the Line? 🎯
Episode Date: February 6, 2026On this First Date Follow Up from The Jubal Show, Tatiana is stunned when a date she thought went perfectly turns into two weeks of radio silence. The chemistry was there, the vibes were flirty, and t...he night was full of games—but when Drew finally explains why he ghosted, the reason is not what she expected. What starts as a fun, competitive night spirals into questions about trust, morals, and what “playing smart” really means. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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First date follow up.
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Tatiana is on the phone.
today for a first day follow-up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Drew, so in a few
minutes we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second
date if she wants one. But first, Tatiana, let's talk about the date. How long has it been since
you heard from Drew? It's been almost two weeks and I've texted a few times already, so I'm a little
bit, I can't really believe the
authenticity is that. That just like doesn't happen
to me, so I'm a little frustrated
to say the least. Oh no, that is
frustrating. Okay.
Well, why don't you tell us about the date
then?
I felt the date went so well.
I think that like, I think Drew is like
sort of exactly my type where
he's kind of like a corporate
vibe, but I also feel like he
was not like too uptight, he had
a lot of swag. He was like
wearing this really fancy watch, which
I love. I love a man in a lot.
It, like, looks really expensive.
He smelled expensive. I was, like, I was all about it.
Okay.
We went to one of those, like, elevated adult playgrounds.
I don't know if you guys are just talking about, but, like, I think those can be, like, kind of cheesy, but I feel like this one was, like, really nice.
And, like, adult playground, no, I haven't heard of that.
That's cool.
No, they're awesome.
I mean, I've seen pictures or, like, pop-ups and stuff.
Fun.
Yes.
And, like, this one actually had, like, a really beautiful bar with, like, really good lighting.
I feel like lighting is huge for our first date.
There was bowling and, like, arcade games and mini golf and, you know, they had, like, really cute snacks and, like, fancy cheese for the soft pretzels and stuff like that.
Cool.
And I felt, like, yeah, I felt like the vibes of the date were, like, really fun, like, flirt, like, really competitive, but, like, in a flirty, fun way, you know?
And, like, I thought it was all going, like, so well.
So, yeah, I mean, I think I know what caused the ghosting, but I just, I really want to get confirmation.
When we were on the date, the bill came, and I noticed that like an extra round of shots had been charged for us, but he had already paid and he was like, oh, it's no big deal.
Like, I'll just pay, I'll just pay.
But like, for me, I'm just like, no, you cannot pay for something we did not order.
Like that for me, it was like the principal kicks in.
Sure.
And I was like, you know, it's not about the money.
It's about the principal.
He was like, it's fine, it's fine.
And I called the server over and I got the charge removed and it got us a free round of bowling,
which I was like, okay, nice, you know.
But then I feel like we ended on a really good note and we hugged and there was no red flags to me.
And I was like so excited for a second date and then like fully ghosted.
So I guess I just, I don't know.
It's just, it's the whole thing super confusing and sad.
Tatiana, why don't you remind us about your date with Drew real quick?
Drew and I went to this like elevated adult playground where we played lots of games.
I thought we had an amazing time.
We were like really flirty and competitive with each other in like a really fun way.
The bill came at the end and there was like an extra charge and I got him, uh, his money back and like a free round of bowling.
But he was kind of weird about that.
So I'm wondering if that's why he's ghosting me.
Anyway, it's been two weeks.
I thought the date was amazing.
I'm curious, like, what happened.
Okay.
Well, are you ready to call him?
Let's do it.
Okay, here we go.
Hello?
Hi, man.
Speak to Drew, please.
Yeah, this is Jim.
Hey, Drew, how are you?
This is the radio show.
It's called The Jubal Show.
Hi, Drew.
I'm Nina.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
And my name is Jubal.
What's up?
Whoa.
Hey, I'm sorry.
This is, uh, hi, everybody.
Is the radio?
Yes.
Yeah.
Have you ever listened to the Jubal show before?
No, I've never listened, but I think I've heard of you guys.
Okay, sweet.
Well, check it out sometime.
But right now, we do a segment on the show that's called the First Date Followup.
That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you ghost them,
that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them.
And we got an email about you from somebody.
Okay.
You have any idea who would email us and wonder why you're ghosting them?
them?
Is it Tatiana?
It is.
Congratulations.
You got it correct.
Would you mind telling us why you're ghosting her if she told us about your date?
Liked you a lot.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I mean, I liked her a lot as well.
I really did.
I get to see the, I guess the attraction is mutual.
We had a really good time.
We had a really good time of the date.
We went out to one of these adult playground things where there's like
Bony Alley.
and, you know, games for adults and stuff like that and drinking and a nice bar and all that stuff.
We were playing games all night, but the thing that kind of got me about,
I think that kind of made me feel weird was that she cheated at like everything.
What do you mean?
Like, actually?
I mean, like, no, I mean, like, all of it, like, the games.
Like, she was cheating.
Okay, so we play mini golf.
And while we're playing, she's nudging the ball with her foot and she's leaning on, like,
we're playing an arcade game.
She's leaning on the machine.
I started playing and she's trying to distract me
so I don't do it's good.
We played one of those claw machine games.
Uh-huh.
And those things, you guys know, those things suck.
They're horrible.
And I can't really win at them.
Yeah.
And I go to the bathroom, I come back, and she has a stuffed animal.
I never see how she gets it.
It's just in her arms.
And I know she's got like a red mark on her shoulder.
I'm like, did you reach into the machine?
No.
That's hard to do.
I've tried.
it's very hard to do
but I mean
I saw her
the whole time
so I was like
she's probably good at that too
did she do it
did she reach into the machine
to get one
well I don't know
I mean but
the way it was set up
you were not pulling
the stuffed animal out of it
there's no way
and after like
to cheat on night
I was like
all right
okay
this is
maybe this is who you are
I don't know
she's the girl
that sticks her hand in
to get what she wants
yeah
and honestly
as red as her shoulder was
I mean, you can tell.
I'm pretty sure she stole it.
Okay, so you don't want to go out with her again
because you think that she stole a stuffed animal from the machine.
Well, it's not that.
It was the constant cheating.
I'm just like, if that's how you are here when we're playing games,
how do I know she's not going to cheat on me if that's how she operates?
Starts with ski ball and then it's all downhill, I guess.
Thank you for telling us why you're ghosting her.
And now, Drew, I'll let you know she's on the phone and wants to talk to you.
Wait, I'm sorry.
She's on the line.
She's here?
Yep.
She's here listening.
Hi, Drew.
Hey.
Hi.
How's going?
I'm sorry.
My jaw is like on the floor.
Like you're mad that I won at the game?
No, I'm not.
No, okay.
Well, let's be clear.
I'm not mad.
You didn't win.
You manipulated a system by cheating.
I did not manipulate.
I played smart.
That's what you do at those places.
you play smart.
There's a difference between playing smart
and stealing a stuffed animal.
That's what you did.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
You were obsessing about this stuff.
I won that stuffed animal, okay?
I saw your arm.
You didn't see.
You were in the back on your arm.
Yeah, but when I came back
the security guard kept them looking at us.
The security guard kept them looking at us and falling his arm.
I mean, okay, here's the whole thing.
Here's the whole thing.
If I see you doing this now,
let's say
I started picturing our life together, right?
Okay?
So like if we're at a restaurant
and suddenly you're yelling
because there's hair in your food,
you know.
Okay, if there's a piece of hair
if there's hair in my food, I'm sending the food back.
Drew, that's like,
in this scenario, you put your hair in the food
to get it for free.
Oh.
I don't like, is that your hair?
You really spiral,
you're like, oh my hair.
out. What are you? Oh, my God. I imagine if you and me went on a cruise, right?
Let's say we're wrong. First of all, I would never be on a cruise. Oh, red flag number two. You're not going to go on a cruise with me now.
How did we get here? If we're on the cruise, I could see rigging the shuffleboard tournament to get a free buffet voucher or something like that. You know?
Okay, Drew?
If I get overcharged.
I'm getting my money back.
That's plain and simple.
Honestly, okay, Drew, Drew, Drew, Drew, just stay with me for one second.
I feel like what you're telling me is that you have, in fact, like, pictured our life together,
which tells me that there is something here, okay?
And.
Well, yeah, I have.
I have.
In my version of our life together, you're playing a shuffleboard and cheating against some poor old lady.
She got there to spend a retirement fund on the gym.
True.
No?
Cheating it stuff.
Drew.
Okay.
I'm sorry, but I feel like you, I have to say, I feel like you can't stop thinking about me.
Okay?
And like, I, I want you to listen to me when I say, like, I was having a lot of fun, but I also, like, I will, I will let you be the man.
What?
What?
Like, like, I, I, okay, I'm sorry.
I thought we were having fun, but I like, I know how to relax.
I will, you know, I'm really agreeable.
I'm one of those girls, like, I will wear whatever you want.
I will, like, do whatever you want, like, whatever you want the plan to be, I will do.
I really don't care about winning that much.
I just want you to be a old lady.
I just want, I just want us to like have, I just thought there was a lot of chemistry and I really, like, want to see you again.
And I think you want to see me again, too.
Drew, would you like to go out with Tatiana again?
We'll pay for it.
The chemistry was there.
You know, I mean, I have been thinking about her a lot,
and I do want to see her again.
But you know what?
I mean, she's, Tatiana, you're a little intense,
and I have some strong questions about your morals.
But I like that you're being honest.
I like what you're saying.
I like that you do have been thinking about me.
I haven't thinking about you, too.
and I think that as long as you're okay with it,
I think we can work at a fair system that's fair.
I did not see it going this way.
So are you saying you'll go out with her again?
Well, I mean, she's showing you that she's not always like at a hundred.
So, I mean, I think that yes, because I have been thinking about her a lot.
Well, okay, congratulations, Tatiana.
You got another date.
We get it.
Thank you.
Okay, that's what I thought.
Thank you. God.
Jubil's first date follow-up.
In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.
Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop.
What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.
I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing.
And immediately, the mask came off.
You're supposed to be safe.
That's your home.
That's your husband.
Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still having today.
This Black History Month, the podcast, I didn't know.
Maybe you didn't either.
Diggs into the moments, perspectives, and experiences that don't always make the textbook.
Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan.
Brough had to pretend he didn't even exist just to sell his own invention.
Listen to I Didn't Know.
Maybe you didn't either.
From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
or simply wherever you get your podcast.
What if mind control is real?
If you could control the behavior of anybody around you,
what kind of life would you have?
Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?
When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.
Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?
I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.
Can you get someone to join your cult?
NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.
Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming.
Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both?
Listen to Mind Games on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the unpurposed podcast.
On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor,
and global superstar.
I went blank.
I hit a bad note,
then I couldn't kind of recover.
And I had built up this idea
that music and being musician
was my whole identity.
I had to sort of relearn who I was
if you took this thing away.
Who am I?
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty
on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
