First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Ellie & Drew - The Mini Golf Meltdown: Why He Ghosted After One Swing

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Ellie thought her first date with Drew was flirty, fun, and full of laughs — until a round of mini golf turned way too competitive. Now she’s wondering why he’s been silent for three weeks. Was it her sense of humor, her killer swing, or something else entirely?Listen to this First Date Follow Up on The Jubal Show to find out what really happened — and why Drew says the moment he “had to kneel” was the dealbreaker. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But first, Ellie, how long has it been? since you heard from Drew. It's been about three weeks. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. It's been a minute. Have you guys had any exchanges in the three weeks?

No, it's been dead silent. Oh, no. Okay. How did you guys leave it at the end of the date? I mean, it felt good. It just felt really like, like, you know, positive and, like, we're flirty, we're having fun, and, like, maybe we'll get together again. Like, there wasn't any, like, indication. I think he said he texted me and thought I was sweet.

Okay. And he never texted. No. Did you text? I texted him. You did? Yeah. Yeah.

And you didn't respond at all? No. And I was trying, you know, she's okay. How's your week going? Very casual. Yeah. Like, serious. I wasn't like, let's go on a date again or anything, you know.

Okay. Well, tell us about the date. So, well, I met. drew at like a heavy night and this is so dumb but he was like yelling out all the wrong answers but like he was super

confident which I thought was cute like I think it's fine when someone like is down to make fun of themselves and he was like passionate even though he was wrong and yeah so we just kind of

got to talking and he's super funny and quick and he had like a ride and gossiping kind of vibe like not looks like I don't care like but I care I don't know it was just very cute but it was like

and he's charismatic and we got along we exchanged numbers and then we were texting a little bit and then he asked me to go minigolfing which I love and it's like fun and a lot of pressure and what he said he wanted to do

and I think it's a cute idea it's kind of like you have an activity so you don't have to like stare at each other at like a dinner table right yeah it's nice to go on a date and do things yeah so about everything was fine and then we're having a time he's being funny i think i'm being funny and then about like halfway through i hit the ball really hard and it like ricocheted off a rock um straight into the water and i was laughing. Like, I thought it was funny.

But I feel like he kind of went into like full on like dad coach mode. Like he was like giving me like tips about my stance and like my follow true. And I'm like, dude, this isn't like mini golf. Like this is not the masters, you know. And I thought we were just having a good time and making fun of ourselves. But suddenly things felt kind of like it was just like there was like an impasse. We felt like not on the same page suddenly. Okay.

But, like, he was charming, and, like, I let it fly. Like, I mean, like, whatever. We, what continued on with a date? Like, we got a milk shake after. He walked me to my car. And, yeah, I thought it was fine. Like, I even thought, like, maybe he was just doing a bit, you know, like, it was joking.

But it was just, you know, it was furry, fun, easy, and, yeah, just been silent. So I guess I'm just, like, kind of confused. and would like an answer. Why do you think he's ghosting you? Do you have any thoughts on that? Honestly, no. Like, I think it went really well. Like, I mean, unless he was super mad that I hit the ball into the water,

like, but I mean, that would be insane, right? Was there something else that happened in that moment? I mean, you said that's kind of when everything started to change. Not that I can, like, think of. I mean, I thought it was, like, it was just, like, you know, part of the game. And then we've moved on. Okay, well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song.

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We had a good rest of a date and he said he would text me and I haven't heard from him in three weeks. Okay. Well, are you ready for us to call him? Yeah, I'm nervous. Here we go. Hello? Hi, man, speaking to Drew, please.

This is he who's calling. Hey, Drew, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Drew. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal.

What's up? Oh, hello? Did I win something? I'm not sure yet. You'll find out in a second, though. Have you ever listened to the show before? No, I haven't. What's going on?

Well, we do a segment on the show. It's called the first date follow-up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting. Do you have any idea? Who would email us to call you? Yeah, is this maybe about Ellie? You knew that right away.

Well, she's the only person that I would... I don't like the word ghosting. I just want to put that out there. Okay. I like not responding to. Okay. Is that any better, though? Yeah.

It gives me a little less spooky or something. I don't know. Well, it sounds rude, but... Do you mind telling us why you're not calling her back? Well, I thought Ellie was awesome in the beginning. The beginning of the day was super fun. She's beautiful. She's funny.

It's flirty. We're having a good time. So how much do you know about the date already? Well, we talked to her a little bit about it. She said you guys went minigolfing and stuff, but that's pretty much it. Okay. So we're on the mini golf course, and it's pretty even. I'd like to think I'm a little better.

She's doing a little worse than me. So I try to give her, you know, she hits the ball really hard at one. point of ricochets, almost hit somebody. It's kind of dangerous, looking back on it. I'm trying to give her a friendly tip on how to keep it, keep the ball on the cords, keep the game moving, not only for us, but for the people around us. And I give her this tip. She looks me dead in eyes, and this is going to sound insane.

Again, it is insane. She says, I will destroy you. Wait, what? And we don't know each other well enough for me to know whether this is some kind of joke, whether this is her humor. It didn't feel very funny. It felt competitive in a way that I didn't

find very attractive. I was actually kind of scared at that moment. This death there was, I don't know, it's very intense. Oh my God, I was joking. Are you serious? Hey, Drew, that's Ellie. She's actually on the phone and wants to

talk to you. Hi, Ellie. I didn't realize me to talk I thought I was talking of the radio, hello? Like, how did you not know I was kidding? We were like doing bits. I mean, I didn't know you well enough to know what was a bit, and does

it feel like a bit when you asked me afterwards to bow down on my knees, to my mini golf queen? That was funny. Like, maybe it was weird, but it was funny. It's funny up to the point where there's a grown man on his knees, you know, it's not a little

I don't know, embarrassing, especially on a first date. I don't want to be embarrassed. Yeah, I did, because I kicked your ass. I beat you. You got down. I was. I mean, I guess it sounds funny in this context, but when we were there, it didn't feel

very funny. You felt really intense and, I don't know, you made me, like, you wouldn't let me do anything else until I did get down on my knees. It's one thing to joke about it and say it, but to force me to do it is it's a little too far. First is a strong word. I actually had him bow down. Yeah, I mean

I thought it was not Like We were standing in front of the 18th hole There are people lining up behind us And I'm trying to not get on my knees And I only end up doing it Because I have to move this game along It sounds very wrong to me, Alie

I don't think you should be Imposing Royal decrees upon your first date I just, I'm sorry like to win It's confidence Like I What you want me to be like a weak woman And lose

Like, I'm happy for you to win, but let's celebrate your victory together. I don't have to be on my knees. You don't have to make me parade me around the mini golf establishment telling people, I won, I won, look at the loser, look at the loser. That's not nice. They need to know who they were in the present. I'm sorry that I'm really, I have a really good eye hand coordination, and I'm, yeah, I'm good.

I'm an ex-selfill player. Like I'll have, you know, I'm getting, yeah, I get competitive. So what? I'm okay with some competition, but, like, at the end of the game, we have to shake hands. I don't want you to throw me to the ground. But did she throw you to the ground, though? I will say, you know, I played along, but, you know, it's the first date. I don't want to say what my expectations were, but I was hoping for a second at least.

And, you know, when things like this happen, it doesn't really, it's hard to play. I'll play along a little bit, you know, but at a certain point, it's just too much. I don't know. It was, like, you committed to a bit. It's a team. I stay on brand through. Like, I, this was, I thought we were both in on it. I thought we were most committed.

I guess. I mean, I was, I tried to play along to the best of my ability. Don't get me wrong. But, like, it's, it, you called me a loyal subject. I don't have a little lesser than, you know? Like, if you were the queen and I was the king, that I was the king, that would be one thing. Don't make me the court jester.

And I remember you were less than me because I beat you. Like I said, it's not. Hey, Drew, would you like to go on another date with Ellie? We'll pay for it. I don't know. Like I said, I want to be with someone who's going to treat me as an equal. And I don't think our first date was a great sign that we could make that happen. We are equals, just not when it comes to mini golf or probably any sport that we need to.

Again, not super encouraging of me to get back out with you. All right, whatever, I guess, you know, chivalry's dead or whatever. Like, you just can't take a woman being really good at a squirt. Jubel's first date follow-up. Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless, Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from Smartless Media,

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