First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Erica & Nathan - When a First Kiss Leaves You Black and Blue

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

In this First Date Follow Up on The Jubal Show, Erica can’t figure out why Nathan ghosted her after what felt like a picture-perfect date—homemade treats, lakeside vibes, and sparks flying. But when we call Nathan, his explanation for disappearing has everyone in shock (and laughing). Let’s just say their first kiss made a much bigger impact than either of them expected. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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two weeks two weeks okay was the last time you talked to him on the date or did you guys have any interaction

after that nothing I tried texting him he didn't answer me back so I didn't want to seem desperate and then the next day

I DMed him on Instagram nothing so I don't know okay it's sad I know being ghosted is the worst

but was your yeah Was the date good, though? Yeah. He had like this quiet confidence and like an easy half smile and like I forgot my name for a second. And he like packed a picnic like a Michelin Star Chef like with the cloth napkins, sparkling lemonade, homemade peach handpies. I was like, what? You made this?

He made peach hand pie. Wow. You're saying that very couch. We need to live there for a minute. Wow. I love a guy who can cook. And I was excited and he was excited. He offered to skip rocks and we ended up skipping rocks.

And he was like, listen, when you get it to finally glide, you're going to feel like a superhero. And it was like Lakeside Park at Golden Hour. You know, he had the blanket. It got a little chilly. And then he had this playlist with a little speaker and snacks. And he just had everything planned out. And it was just so nice to just experience. this date with him and talk and um you know he he when he was skipping he was giving you the

technique of the you know rock throwing and um uh the only thing that i think maybe is the reason he's ghosting is like i shared this story about my dad and um like i was copying his stance to skip these rocks and i kept on splashing and every time i would splash i would say strike you know and Okay. Why is that a problem? I don't know. And I was like my dad, you know, forced me to play softball growing up and I sucked. And every time I missed, he would have the whole team and he would, he would yell strike. And so I just used to saying that. And I don't know if I cheered too much and I sounded like a loser and if it was like too much too soon.

But we laughed a lot, you know. Were you overly emotional? or something and telling that story like no no I just said it matter of fact but he was just listening and then we moved on but like if I'm like going back

and trying to like find why he would be ghosting me I'm like well I did hear that maybe that seemed like I was a loser or something all right you might be thinking a little too much but it happens but after that we started talking about

his sister and all that stuff that was really fun and he offered me his hoodie when it was cold and um the the conversation after that was easy and um you know there were sparks everywhere and so i'm just like confused and heartbroken because i thought skipping the rocks was fun and um i'm not sure if he did or not yeah it like this always throw me though because he put so much effort into it and then you're just going to disappear yeah yeah like we were we were perfectly instinct yeah I don't know. Okay.

But it felt like the vibes were nice. So I'm not sure. We'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song and then come back and then call him and see if it'll tell us why he's ghosting you. And maybe get you a second date, okay? Okay. All right. We'll get your first day follow up next.

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podcasts. Right in the middle of your first date, follow up, and Erica is on the phone. own today. And she's getting ghosted by a guy named Nathan. So we're about to call him and then see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But first, Erica, why don't you break down your date again for us real quick? Oh, yeah. We went on a picnic and he made me homemade peach and pies and everything was amazing. And he taught me how to skip rock. And I shared a personal story about my dad that we have ruined it. And then it got cozy and we were back in the vibe and I'm not sure if I shared too much, but I definitely had fun, and it was really sweet

to be with him and talk with him. Oh, okay. Well, are you ready for us to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you? Yes, please. Okay. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Nathan, please. Yeah, this is Nathan.

What's up? Hey, Nathan, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Nathan. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal.

What's up? Hi. Have you ever heard the show before? Yeah. I just don't know why he might be calling me. Well, have you gone on any dates recently? I have, yeah. Cool.

We're calling because this is a first date follow-up, you know, the segment where you go out on a date with someone and you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to get you on the first date. phone and ask why you're ghosting them. And we got an email about you. Okay. Wow. All right.

I was not expecting this at all. Who are you ghosting, Nathan? I mean, who am I not ghosting? Wow. I assume it's Erica, huh? Yes, it is, Erica. She emailed us. We talked to her about your date.

It sounded nice. It sounded great, actually. And she told us that you haven't talked to her in two weeks. So would you mind telling us? us, why are you ghosting her? She can't kiss. My bottom lip is still blue from all of the sucking and the slobber. Wow.

Yeah, just a mood killer. The date was pretty romantic before that, too. Like she bruised your bottom lip? Yeah. Yeah, it was really something else. She sucked that hard because that would be the only way, right? Does your lip change color? if that happens yeah wow yeah it was i looked like you know like someone who'd been in the pool

for too long oh really clearly i haven't had my lips sucked that hard before yeah i hadn't either until i went to the doctor to figure out what was going on with my left and uh yeah they were like you know there's bruising but you don't think that you could have just like talk to her about it and been like maybe be more gentle next time No, it seemed like that was like her style. Like she was, she was really into it. And so I just, it just totally turned me off. I've kissed bad kissers before, but I've never, like, kissed a vacuum cleaner.

It sucked. I guess that's what I would say. Or is that awesome? You know, she liked you that much. She couldn't get enough. Yeah, I don't want to be, I don't want to be hurt by a person being too intimate. I think there's a happy medium for that. Okay.

All right. Well, thank you for telling us. I'll also let you know that Erica is actually on the phone and has been listening and wants to talk to you. Oh, wait. She's here? Yep. Yeah. This is.

Hey, Erica. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The kiss. You're making purring noises like you're enjoying it like a cat. Oh. You were purring like a cat?

No, I was not purring. I was wincing. You were sucking my lip off my face and just, like, drowning it in saliva. It was passionate. It was like getting caught in a sprinkler. There was just, there was so much moisture. My ex taught me how to kiss like that. Which makes it worse.

Why would anyone pass that on? It's not a family recipe. Just like let that go. Maybe. You weren't wincing in pain. You were like, like purring. I was drowning. Like, does that sound like somebody purring or sound like somebody drowning?

No, you aren't drowning. I guess I'm memorable. What is it really? Like, what is it really? That's it. That's what it is. I mean, it's not just my lip. I mean, like, my shirt was so.

Like, you have to wear a bib if you want to make out with her. What? Come on. Like, you were, we were skipping rocks on the water. You got splashed by the rock, the water, and it can't be the kick. Is there anything else? Anything else? Do you think that the rocks skipping on the water splashed up and only covered my mouth, my chin, and my shirt?

Yeah. Let me, do you know what the difference is between water and saliva? It was like sticky. It was like blimer had just gone like right through me. People like spitty kisses. Spitting kisses. Fish, fish like spitty kisses. People don't wind up.

well i i just thought that everybody liked that i'm telling you that's not true so you can't say that anymore you can't say i mean i'm taking off my scuba mask so that i can say it's so that they can let you know that that's not true okay well maybe you can teach me how to do a dry kiss hey nathan would you like to go out with erika again that sounds worse than the way i kiss no i'm good no thank you you can teach her how to kiss exactly the way you like it yeah She's willing to learn how to kiss Nathan's style. My doctor told me I can't kiss anyone for like three more weeks. Really?

That sounds for my. Do your doctor have a crush on you? Okay, well, maybe he didn't say that exactly, but I don't want to kiss anybody for like three weeks. It's like even sipping something out of a straw now is painful. Wow, you sucked on his lip that hard, Erica? Well, I mean, I was, I thought it was. passionate i mean i get where you're coming from erika maybe next time you just got a light gauge

like do you want to kiss from like a scale of one to ten how bruised do you want to be i can't believe that i kind of want to see it please give me another chance please i gave you another chance when i was like pulling away and you just kept coming i tried i can't nathan think about it really You said yourself, she's a vacuum cleaner, and now she's begging. Okay, those are not good reasons to go on and date with somebody. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land?

Jeopardy Truthers, believe in... I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. They gave you the answers, and you still blew it. The Puzzler. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award. winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis the 4th, who opened the first native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart

Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz. And Melissa Fumero, and this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly

questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

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