First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Espresso Energy Overload

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Connor thought he found something rare—an actually fun first date. He and Gia went on a scavenger hunt through an art museum, complete with riddles, playful banter, and shared earbuds. Connor was captivated by her wit, charm, and the way her mind worked. But after a week of silence, he reached out to The Jubal Show for answers. Turns out, while Connor saw romance, Gia saw chaos. From bad British accents to climbing on fountains and debating modern art with a docent, Connor's enthusiasm came off more like a one-man improv show than a romantic date. But can espresso and chamomile actually balance each other out? Listen to find out if Gia gives this over-caffeinated connection one more shot—or sends him back to the friend zone with no foam. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Gia. So we're about to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But first, we have to find out about the date. Connor, how long has it been since you talked to Gia? It's been a little over a week, and I've tried everything. I've tried calling, texting, you know, the works. OK, well, that's a frustrating feeling. Maybe she lost her phone.

That would be a good explanation. It would, right? This is what would be helpful. Why don't you tell us about your date? Okay. So we did something that's, I don't know, I guess it's a little quirky. It was a scavenger hunt at the art museum downtown. And basically you like download this app, right? And it gives you all these clues and like riddles to solve. And you basically like run around finding the stuff, like, you know, the ugliest statue

or the most romantic painting. And we were like, when we started, I was like, you know, do you ever watch like Amazing Race or any of those like reality shows? And she was like, yeah, that's, yeah, I love those. I love that stuff. So I was like, me too. Let's like pretend we're on one of those. So, um, I dunno, there was like a lot of playful banter conversations. Some of those conversations got like pretty deep. Um, and we were like, it felt very like easy and intimate And we were like, it felt very like

easy and intimate because we were doing things like we're sharing our earbuds to listen to the audio tour. And we're like, we kept making fun of how the like narrator sounded very dramatic. So I don't know, we were just having fun, you know? Yeah. And it seemed like she was super into it too. Oh, totally. It was easy. We were, to me, it was like we were in our own bubble. Like, even at one point, like we sat, we were sitting and we found this like weird abstract sculpture that was on the scavenger hunt.

And we just sat there. And before I knew it, I looked at my watch and 40 minutes had passed. We had just been like talking. And I don't know, like, you know, that kind of, when something like that happens, it just feels like you clicked and it doesn't happen that much. So I really felt like we clicked. Yeah.

Okay. So why do you think you're getting ghosted? Well that's it. I don't know. Cause I guess I've never had a date that I would actually describe as like fun. I feel like I meet a girl. I go out on like the obligatory coffee date. We have small talk or there's like an awkward dinner where you're wondering, Oh, am I paying for this or are we splitting it?

Like it's just so awkward. And, and this was not any of that. It's kind of like we were, I don't know, we were on like a little adventure, you know? Yeah. And I think the part that was like, I'm not trying to sound corny or anything, but like the part that was most attractive

is that I got to see her brain at work, you know? Like how she saw stuff and like how she thinks and how she approaches the world. And I was just very, very attracted by what I saw. Yeah, you're into her. We can definitely tell you're into her. Oh, I am. It's weird.

Like she even when she made this super dry joke about modern art that like no one else would have caught. And I do this like a week later, I'm thinking about it every single day. Like the joke replays in my head and I'm like, I don't know. It's just so smart. You know, you don't you don't run into someone who's like as attractive, but also so interesting and so easy to have fun with. Yeah. Are you smart, too?

Because, I mean, if we're thinking about what could have gone wrong, I don't know if she's super intellectual and you can't think of anything, like there weren't even any awkward moments. I didn't have any. And like, I'd like to think that I'm pretty smart, which is why I'm always looking for intelligence as like a part of the package.

So no, I mean, I don't think that would be it. I would be pretty surprised if she didn't find like, you know, she didn't feel like I was keeping up. Okay. Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you then. We'll play a song, come back, call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you or if she lost her phone. And then maybe get you a second date, okay?

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And if you're just joining us, Connor is on the phone and Connor is getting ghosted by a woman named Gia. So we're about to call her and see if she'll tell us the reason she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But first, Connor, why don't you break down your date again real quick with Gia? Yeah, it was perfect, at least on my end,

and I thought she had fun. We went to the art museum downtown, we downloaded this app where you can go on a scavenger hunt and solve riddles and find different pieces of art. And it was, it was everything I looked for in a date. It was fun. It was easy to talk to her. We totally clicked.

And yeah, I just really feel like I got a glimpse into not only like, um, not only her, but like how her brain works, which like I said, sounds kind of corny, but I am really into this girl. So I'm really hoping that there's some, I hope there's some fluke that I was asked to why she's not like responding to me. Okay. Are you ready for us to call her? As ready as I'll ever be.

All right. Here we go. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Gia please? This is she. Hey Gia, how are you? This is the Jubal show. It's a radio show. Hi Gia, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.

And my name is Jubal. How are you? Hi, good, thanks. Do you know the show? Not like that well. Okay. Hi, good. Thanks. Yeah, are you do you know the show? Um, not like that. Well, okay I don't remember submitting to anything but um Well, I don't think you did but we did get an email about you from somebody who listens to the show

That's why we're on the phone Okay, you're the most chill attitude Well, we do a segment on the show that's called the first date follow-up That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then you end up ghosting them That person can have us call you to ask us why you're ghosting them Who are you ghosting? Yes, it is about Connor he said that he really liked you, thought your date was great and is confused that it's been you know over a week now and

you haven't responded to him. Do you mind telling us why? Yeah well oh my goodness. The date was fun like surprisingly fun. He's you know clever and charming but also he was just a lot. Like, what does that mean? Well, you know how people can just like, there's a line of like too much sometimes at first we were clicking and like I thought was, you know, cute how into the scavenger hunt he wasn't, you know,

I love like interactive things and games and everything, but he kept making like literally everything into a bit just the whole time, like narrating the date in the worst fake British accent I've ever heard. You know, it's cute the first time, but not like, you know, an hour later. And then, you know, trying to solve clues that like weren't even, you know, part of the game and, you know and high-fiving strangers. Not everyone is into this, dude. High-fiving strangers.

I mean, that's kind of a warm energy, no? Yeah. This old guy just kind of looked at him weird, which actually was pretty funny. But then he climbed up on a fountain to like look for another clue. I don't know. He set off this motion alarm and then what's the thing? Like a docent? Yeah.

Yeah. Like he got into like an argument with him and like they were starting to like call security. And then he was arguing about whether this like, I've seen it in different TV shows where it's like a banana or a fire extinguisher or something just like on the wall, whether that counts as art, you know, like having this debate about modern art. And it was just like, I feel like those two tables just kind of like, explain it the best. It was just like chaotic energy. And I was just like,, like at first I was excited, but then by the end I was just exhausted.

Tanner Iskra Wait, wait, that's why you ghosted me? Because I was too fun? Tanner Iskra Hey, Jill, that's Connor. Connor's on the phone listening and he'll talk to you. Jillian Larkin Oh my God. You guys didn't tell me that she was on here. Tanner Iskra You didn't say anything at the time. I mean, you were laughing and we were having a really good time. We're having fun. We were but then I also laugh when I'm stressed like I'm nervous, you know, like I'm not gonna tell someone I barely know like how to

not act when they're having fun and yeah, some of it was fun and funny, but then I was just like By the end of it, I didn't feel safe leaving you unsupervised in public. I feel like you should have had one of those backpacks of a lease on or something. Listen, listen, yeah, I wasn't trying to be extra. I just, I really liked you.

I was nervous, so I leaned into the jokes because it felt easier than like being awkward or quiet or like too serious. I get that. However, it's like okay to be quiet for a little bit in a museum, you know? There wasn't any room for just like being and like stopping and observing. It was just like onto the next, onto the next. It was like being stuck in an improv show. Well, look, I know I can be a lot but but like on that date I swear I was not putting on a show. I was genuinely having one of the best dates I've ever had in my life. And I was just so surprised and it was so refreshing

that you were so smart and funny. And you you made art to me feel like less pretentious. So I just didn't want it to end. Gia, he loves your brain. Okay. Well, that's really sweet actually. Thank you. I mean, listen, I'm not looking for you to change your vibe or anything. Like if you're a chamomile, that's great. But I don't know, chamomile and espresso espresso can work together balance each other out or whatever, right? I was so lost for a second there.

So you're espresso? I mean, I do like lavender more than Camomile, but what you want to be a latte? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. See, I can be a whole damn macchiato if you'll let me. What do you think, Gio? You want to let him be a macchiato? Would you go on another date with Connor and we'll pay for it?

Sweet talk. Yeah. You want some macchiato. Oh, I mean, okay. Let me think. I appreciate the honesty, I do. I did have a good time minus the part where I thought we were gonna get banned

from the museum forever. But there's an exhibit coming up that I really want to see. I will not climb on fountains. I will not climb on fountains. I swear I will not get in fights with the docent. And there will be no fake accents. And high fives. No high fives.

Unless, like, maybe our next date is maybe signing up for an improv show or something. I mean, I think you should give, we should give it one more shot. Yeah. You will? You will. Yeah, I said, even today, you made me laugh.

Yay. All right, sweet. Oh, yay. Congratulations. Yay. This is awesome. Oh, yes. This is exactly how I hope this would go.

This is great. Okay, well, I'll text you and we can go get those lattes and plan the next thing. Cool, just let me know when and I won't be latte. What? Oh God. What does that mean? Like late, like latte, late.

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I'm going to be late. I'm going to be late. I'm going to be late. I'm going to be late. I'm going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal

process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to voiceover on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's your girl, Tia Madison, from the Outspoken Podcast Network from iHeart Podcast. We're doing pride in a big way. Come celebrate with Las Culturas, sis with Matt Rogers and Bo and Yang. Her hair cut on an M&M.

That's how you make an M&M a girl. You give it Lisa Rinna's hair. Keep the party going with high key. I am high key going to lose my mind over Cowboy Carter, the way she about to yank my bank account. Fighting words with George M. Johnson. I'm going to start speaking publicly about this to try and become a lightning rod. And a special shout out from comedian Lisa

Lampanelli and her podcast, Shrink This. Happy Pride for all who celebrate, and who doesn't. Listen to all the outspoken shows on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts in. A lot of times, big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. Small but important ways.

From tech billionaires to the bond market to, yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chastin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.