First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - First Date Follow-Up: Great Chemistry, Awkward Elevator Rides

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Meg finally lands a date with her apartment-building crush, James—but a fun trivia night and a kiss turn into unanswered texts and awkward elevator encounters. Did her mid-date phone calls ruin ...the connection, or is something else keeping him away? The Jubal Show uncovers an unexpected dating deal breaker in this First Date Follow-Up packed with ghosting drama and uncomfortable neighbor tension. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Lisa, tell them about our new show. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Youanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.
Starting point is 00:00:14 And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Melissa Jeltson, host of the What Happened to Her Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:39 We're kicking off the season with the Sandra Birchmore story, a case the police rode off as a suicide in a snowstorm. Her family never bought it, and the man they suspected wore a badge. You never know who that devil is because he's wearing in disguise. Sometimes it's a police uniform. And you can get access to all episodes 100% out of it. free with an IHeart True Crime Plus subscription exclusively on Apple Podcasts, available only to IHeart True Crime Plus subscribers. So don't wait.
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Starting point is 00:01:47 Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creative. and host of Scam Goddess Podcast. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on an amazing guest. Ooh, I scammed them. What? I can talk to you for an hour.
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Starting point is 00:03:10 and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James. So in a few minutes, we're going to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first, Meg, how long has it been since you heard from James? Here's the deal. We live in the same building. So I actually saw him.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, I know. So I see him in the elevator all the time. So I actually saw him like this morning. And it's a little bit awkward just because of all of this. So, but I haven't heard like he hasn't kind of followed up by a text or phone, which is what I was kind of waiting for. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah. So did you reach out to him other than seeing him in the elevator? Yeah. So I was sort of expecting a call. And then this morning when I saw him, I just kind of was like, I have to say something because I haven't heard from him. So I just said like, hey, you know, do you want to go for dinner sometime? And he basically said, I'll get back to you, which I feel like is a bad sign. Yeah, probably not the best.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right. But it was so great. Like we went to this trivia night that he had been telling me about because, you know, I had seen him in the elevator. We'd make small chat all the time. I actually have a tiny confession that I would kind of plan to be in the elevator when he was there.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Okay. Been there. Yeah. I was like, oh, if I keep running into this guy. So, yeah, so I keep like running into him. And we were chatting and he had told me with this trivia night. And then finally he asked me out, which I was really psyched about. And we just like had this great night.
Starting point is 00:04:41 We even went back to his place afterwards. Well, did something happen? Did anything actually go down on the date that may have made it a little bit awkward or that you felt like was a turning point? Well, here's obviously I have been analyzing this for days because it's all I can think of. Sure. So the only thing. So I started to go, okay, maybe it was this because like my sister, she's going through a bit of a bad kind of. kind of break up right now.
Starting point is 00:05:06 She's a single mom, so she's having a hard time. She did call me a couple of times. Oh, it might have been like three or four times when we were on the date. And I did answer because I just knew, you know, and at the time I wasn't thinking, I was like, oh, I've got to answer. It's my sister. You know, she needs me. But I'm kind of wondering, did that kill the vibe?
Starting point is 00:05:26 And does he think I'm rude, you know, for answering the phone so much? And then I'm like, if he did that to me, yeah, would I be a little pissed? So I'm wondering if that's it. Did he say anything about it or did he seem annoyed by that? Okay, full disclosure. One of them may have come when we were kind of making out a little bit. So I guess he seemed a little annoyed when that got cut off. But he didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:05:49 It was just kind of, I kind of feel like I guess, yeah, that was kind of the end of the night sort of thing. So, but he didn't say anything about it. Like he just was like, okay, you know, good night. Meg, why don't you catch everybody up on your situation? Yes. Okay. So I went out with this amazing guy, James, who lives in my building. I see him all the time in the elevator.
Starting point is 00:06:06 He finally asked me out. We had a great time. There was even some makeouts. But it's been like, oh my God, it's been weeks now. He has not responded to my last text. And I've recently seen him in the elevator and basically said, hey, do you want to go for dinner some time? And he basically said, I'll get back to you, which doesn't feel positive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 All right. And the reason you think you might be getting ghosted is because you kept answering your phone. Right? I did. My sister kept calling during the date and she's having a tough time. So I did keep answering my phone. Well, yeah, to be honest. So yeah. All right. Well, are you ready for us to call them and see if I'll tell us why? Oh, God. Yeah, I think I'm ready. I'm nervous, but I'm ready. Here we go. Hello. Hi, man. I speak to James. Yeah, this is James. I'm James. I'm James. I'm James. I'm James. Hi, I'm James. Hi, I'm James. Hi, I'm James. Hi, I'm Victoria. How are you? Hey, this is Jubel. I'm calling from a radio show. It's called the Jubal show. Hi, I'm Hey, I'm good, what's up? Not much. Have you heard the show before, ever? Is this the, have you, I feel something to do with, like, first dates or something? Yes, actually it does.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I don't know. Yeah, we do a segment on the show. It's called the first date follow-up. It's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, they can email us to get you on the phone and ask why. So we got an email about you from somebody. That's why we're calling. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I actually have heard of your stuff before. Oh, my God. Yeah. Thank you. You got an email about me? Yes, we got an email about you. Okay. Are you ghosting somebody?
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, you have any idea who? Uh, yeah, honestly, I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about. Yeah. Okay, who do you think it is? Is it Meg? Yes, it is Meg. She said she really liked you a lot and she's confused. Yeah, all right, here's a story.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So, I mean, yeah, honestly, we did have a great date. I had a good time. The real deal breaker for me. and this might sound like a small thing, but it's big to me. She let it slip that she doesn't like dogs. And that is a huge deal breaker for me. Do you have a dog? No, I don't have a dog right now.
Starting point is 00:08:18 We're not allowed to have dogs in our buildings, but I'm planning on buying a house someday, and I definitely am getting a dog. When I buy a house, I grew up with dogs. I love dogs. It's just something I can't live without having in my life. I wonder what she would say, though, if you were like, I need to have dogs.
Starting point is 00:08:37 But what did she say? Like, she said like she absolutely hated dogs. She just didn't like them. She's allergic to them. Well, she was complaining about one of her friend's dogs and just kind of complaining about the smell and the mess that it makes all the time and just kind of like was like, you know, complaining about this one dog, but then like let it get to the point of like, and that's because of that.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I don't like dogs at all. And that for me was like, you're going to judge all dogs based off this one dog. That is not for me. That's just not for me, man. So that's it, just that she doesn't like dogs. That is, honestly, yeah, it's a huge deal breaker for me. Like, you, like, sure, you could, you could tolerate dogs, but yeah, I got to have a dog, and I can't foresee myself having a future with somebody who just can't live with a dog in their life.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I mean, everybody has got their thing. I've never met anybody that doesn't like dogs. Yeah, I haven't either. But also, I would do just want to say, like, devil's advocate. Like, it could be maybe her friend just really is bad, like, not great at taking care of her dogs. like bad to say I can see that but you know then you then you like you got to feel some pity for that dog and not just complain about it you talk to your friend right that's it was just a total deal breaker for me the way you don't you don't you have to hear it I don't know it's tough to say the
Starting point is 00:09:49 things that she was saying because it was it was a gut punch to me maybe we should just ask her because she is on the phone listening and wants to talk to you oh yeah hi james hey yeah Hey, I forgot about this part. I can't believe this. Like, my God, if I had like 100 guesses, I would never guess this is why you're ghosting me. Listen, it's just like, this is why I didn't want to bring it up. It feels like a little thing to a lot of people, but it's a big thing to me. It's a big part of my life.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And, you know, I really did feel like we had some chemistry and, you know, and, but just it's a hard know for me. Yeah, it's a real deal breaker. But, oh my God, we did. Listen, I agree. I think we had, like, amazing chemistry, including on that night, like, the build-up to our first date, all that stuff. And I guess I'm just like, okay, what if it was like, I'm okay? I could learn to be okay around dogs.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Like, I just wouldn't, like, pep them if I was around a dog, I could be okay with dogs. It's not that I think they're evil. I just don't like them. They're like, they, I do think they're messy and there's always dog hair everywhere and, like, whatever. but I mean, does that change? Yeah, see, this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:06 This is a no for me. Absolutely not. Like, you can't even get through a sentence without saying something negative. Oh. I mean, I guess, but like it could be worse. I just feel like there's so many worse things. Like, it's not like I'm like a murderer or like a stalker.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Like, and I would, like, those are real reasons to not be with somebody. I just feel like. I don't know. Someone who doesn't like dogs could be a murderer. Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay, so I just feel like this is such, I mean, is that a thing like where you like don't trust people who don't like people who don't like people who don't like dogs? Like, or you don't think so.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I absolutely don't trust people who don't like dogs. That is a hard line. Absolutely don't. You know, I was thinking it might have been fun for a one night stand, which is why I let it get as far as it did. But I'm kind of done at this point. It's a hard note for me. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And now knowing that you were just like hanging on for one night stand, it's to make it feel like a no for me too. So that was a little much to hear. So what do I, and now, this is great. We live in, like, what am I supposed to do when I see you in the elevator? We can ignore all of this. Well, I don't know. You know what time I ride the elevator every day.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Maybe you can avoid getting in the elevator with me. James, would you like to go on another day with Meg will pay for it? No, thank you. Okay. I mean, I thought, yeah, if, I mean, we could get together and talk it out in person and not just like this. No, thanks. I do not want to be murdered. What?
Starting point is 00:12:36 All right. Well, I guess you got your answer, Meg. And James, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, thanks a lot, guys. I really do like the show.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Thanks. Thank you. Lisa, tell them about our new show. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi You Wanto. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally
Starting point is 00:13:02 different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Melissa Jeltson, host of the What Happened to Her podcast. We're kicking off the season with the Sandra Birchmore story, a case the police rode off as a suicide in a snowstorm. storm. Her family never bought it, and the man they suspected wore a badge. You never know who that devil is because he's wearing in disguise. Sometimes it's a police uniform. And you can get access to all episodes 100% ad-free with an I-Heart True Crime Plus subscription
Starting point is 00:13:44 exclusively on Apple Podcasts, available only to IHeart True Crime Plus subscribers. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search for IHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcasts. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on an amazing guest. Ooh, I scammed them. What? I can talk to you for an hour.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You're a generational yapper like me. That's why I had to make yapping a job. And now you can catch full episodes of my show on YouTube. Start listening to Scam Goddess on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman. Angel Geratana. Jeremy Colhain. Patrick McDonald.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists Podcast. The Improvised Character Comedy Podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween. He gets right up next to the microphone. I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You never seen Italy soaked. quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If anyone wanted to commit a murder, up here would be the greatest place in the world to hide the body. But no one will find it. He acted friendly. He talked friendly.
Starting point is 00:15:20 He sounded friendly. They all knew that I did the scary boogie stuff. And I said, maybe she'll find out. where this girl is. I saw him violent. Backhanded a pow! Listen to the devil's quarry season two in the Bone Valley feed
Starting point is 00:15:39 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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