First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - First Date Follow-Up – One Bathroom Break Changed the Whole Date

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

Ryan and Ella’s Bumble match turned into an Italian dinner full of laughs, instant chemistry, and plans for a second date. But when Ryan returned from the bathroom, Ella suddenly seemed ready to leave—and afterward, his texts went unanswered. Did his joke about calling her his “wife” ruin the connection, or did he miss something else? The Jubal Show’s First Date Follow-Up uncovers the story behind the ghosting in this episode about dating after divorce, mixed signals, and the search for a second chance. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's just been a few days. but, you know, it was such an instant connection. I'm really baffled. What was your last interaction like? Well, we, I mean, initially we were just, you know, texting over Bumble, the dating app. But we did go out. We went on a first date to a nice restaurant,

and I don't think it could have gone any better, really. Okay, well, tell us about the date. Yeah, so we went to Italian place. We were both pasta lovers and we were just laughing, drinking. We bonded over the fact that we're both newly divorced and still new to the dating world. Everything's changed a lot. And she told me she wanted to start a family. And I told her, I actually, I'm already a dad.

And she took that. She was just like in. She wanted to see pictures of my son and wanted to hear stories. It was an incredible conversation after, you know, the check came and everything and she didn't want it to, or we didn't want it to end, I guess. So we went to the bar to, you know, to have a little coffee and just keep chatting. And, you know, we both had to get up the next morning and work. So we made plans to to meet up again. I thought we could go on a bike ride. And she was into that idea and said, you know, I'd text her the next day. And I mean, I thought that second day was going to happen for sure. So you guys basically made plans for a second date and it just never happened. Yeah.

Yeah, I haven't. She didn't respond back ever. That anything awkward at all happened on the date? Any reason you can think of that you're getting ghosted? I mean, like, the one, there's one thing where I'm like, I guess I could have, this might have been a dumb thing to say. When we switched from our, you know, our dinner table. table to the bar. The bartender came up to us and he asked if me and my wife, you know,

wanted what we wanted to drink. And I, I didn't correct him. I, I said, oh, you know, I thought it was kind of cute. I thought, actually my wife and I were just going to have an espresso, if that's okay. And she laughed too. And, you know, I, I, um, I thought, okay, sweet. Like, she gets my sense of humor and everything. And, um, I went to the bathroom. I came back, but, uh, She was, if something happened, I don't know, she maybe had time to think about it or I offended her. You know, when I got back, she seemed kind of anxious to leave, a little antsy. And we just, you know, hugged goodbye, I kissed her on the cheek. And I don't, I guess I put my foot in my mouth there, maybe.

Okay. If you're just joining us, Ryan is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Ella. So we're about to call her, see if to tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another day. But before we do that, Ryan, why don't you refresh our memory on your date with Ella? Yeah, we went out to dinner, Italian restaurant. We had a great time. She loved the fact that I'm a dad, and she's divorced too, but still wants to have a family. We had coffee at the bar after dinner, and I referred to it as my wife as a joke, and then the vibe changed.

That's got a psychopath. That's why. It's tough when something like that happens. Or you're on a date and someone calls them your girlfriend because you don't want to be like, yeah, they are. But you also don't be like, whoa, no way. Don't even see that. Like they don't go far the other way. Like that I would never.

All right. That would be waiting. You ready for us to call her? Yeah, please. Okay, here we go. Hi, may I speak to Ella, please? This is her. Ella, hi.

How are you? My name is Jubal. I'm calling from a radio show called the Jubal show. Hi, Ella. I'm Nina. I'm here too. Hi. How are you?

I'm okay. How are you? Good. Do you ever listen to the show at all? Not really. Okay. Well, maybe do that from time to time. It'd be cool.

Also, if you haven't, we do a segment on our show. It's called the first date follow up. That's wherever you go out on a date with somebody and then end up ghosting them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. So. Oh, my gosh. We got an email about you. You're kidding.

No, I'm not. Do you know who would email us? I have an idea. You want to take a guess? Is it Ryan? Yes, it is. Ryan? Hilarious.

He emailed us. We talked to him. He told us about your date. He said he really liked you a lot, but he doesn't know why you're ghosting him. And would you mind telling us? Oh, I feel really awkward about this. I'm not going to lie. Okay.

This is a safe space though, I swear. Okay. I mean, I thought he was great. We had a great time. It was very sparky. I mean, I don't know how much he told you, but so I'm recently divorced and we were having a great night. And I guess what I'm honest, like I got on Instagram while he was in the bathroom and I saw a picture of my ex

with his new girlfriend. Oh. And I guess I just got kind of in my feels about it. And I feel like maybe my mood kind of wrecked the night. It kind of just made me realize like, oh, maybe I'm not as ready as I thought I was. I should have handled those very differently. But I don't know. I'm kind of new at this and thought, run away.

Your instincts were to run. I mean, yeah, that's hard. That's a lot to process all at the same time. Yeah, and I feel bad. He seems like a nice guy. I mean, we really did hit it off. So you're ghosting because you saw a picture of your ex with somebody. Yeah, I mean, I'm ghosting because I think I'm like, oh, God, am I actually ready to be jumping back out there if this silly picture threw me off so hard?

I don't know. I mean, whether you're ready or not, I think those types of pictures throw anybody off their game. Like, even if you were already moved on in a little. another relationship seeing it for the first time, I would imagine is still kind of shocking. No? Like, Jubal, don't you feel that way? No, I never care. Oh, okay. I'm glad usually.

Okay. I'm like, good, they've moved on. Well, Ella, I understand and I feel the same way. But what I'm saying is maybe that doesn't mean you're not ready. It's just that you needed to rip the Band-Aid off. I mean, yeah, maybe. I mean, the photo was taken by a friend of ours who, so, like, she's meeting our our old friends like I don't know it just threw me okay it wasn't fair to Ryan well you can

say that to Ryan if you want to because he's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you god hey Ella I'm embarrassing sure hey Ella I don't care that I mean I totally get it that you were you were caught off guard and uh I I don't think it ruined the night at all I'm really believe, frankly. Oh, I'm sorry. That was not the most mature way to handle that. I did not mean to make you worry or feel bad. I know you're kind of in the same position.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, I totally, I understand where you're coming from. And, you know, I mean, if we, if we were able to, like, hang out again, like, you'd be welcome to, you know, talk about this type of stuff. Like, we can totally talk it out. Really? Well, Ella, would you like to go out with Ryan again on another date? We'll pay for it.

I mean, yeah, I'd love to. Amazing. Congratulations, Ryan. You got another date. Yay. We can still do the bike ride and then we'll go to another restaurant. Spot pictures of your exes. We're not.

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