First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Hannah and Luke - Too Generous... or Too Controlling?

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

Hannah thought her sushi date with Luke was a total vibe — laughs, connection, and a surprise gesture she assumed would impress him. But now? She’s getting ghosted, and the reason might just be hiding in her past. When we call Luke to find out the truth, things take a turn nobody saw coming. Is she just independent and generous… or is there more to the story? Don’t miss this spicy First Date Follow-Up — only on The Jubal Show. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But first, Hannah, how long has it been since you heard from Luke? It's been about a week. I texted him a couple times, but nothing, just radio silence. Really? So did you feel like you were going to hear from him? Was the date good? No, it's so weird because he was texting me right after the date. Like, that was fun, we should do it again. And now, poof, absolutely nothing.

Why don't you tell us about the date? Oh, okay, so here's the deal. We went out for sushi, which I love. I thought it was a super solid start. He even let me pick out the restaurant, which I love. I thought it was a super solid start. He even let me pick out the restaurant, which was cool. I didn't think that a guy who doesn't like raw fish would suggest sushi, but cool. We ended up ordering way too much food.

It was kind of a mess. We were both just like cracking jokes about it, especially when he nearly fell on a piece of sashimi across the table. Trying to use the chopsticks. Yeah, it was cute. So afterwards we went for a walk, which was really sweet. This kill low key and it just felt like we were on the same wavelength, you know? Yeah.

Flinging sushi and you know, sweet conversation. So why do you think you're getting ghosted then? Oh man honestly I don't know because I thought it went really really great. There was just like something about it and it was so funny but maybe I messed up when I paid for dinner behind his back. The bill was just way more than we expected and I had ordered a really fancy sake and like you advertiser Without even thinking about it and I felt bad. So when he got up to use the bathroom I just went ahead and paid for the whole thing So when he came back, I told him it wasn't a big deal. I'd marry you. That doesn't sound like a reason to ghost you at all.

Right? I mean, I can afford it. But he seemed like kind of irritated. He kept saying, you know, I could have paid for that. And I tried to explain that it didn't mean anything. I just felt guilty for ordering the expensive stuff like unconsciously. But maybe he thought that I was implying that he couldn't afford it or something. I didn't really mean it like that. I was just trying to do something nice, but now I'm wondering

if it like came off totally wrong. Well, did he say thank you? Did like aside from the fact that he's like, I could pay for it too. Was he appreciative of it? Yeah, no, he did. Just like, it just like shifted the divide like a little bit. But like not enough to, like we still were planning on hanging out again. We both had talked about how it was fun. So I don't know. Maybe it's one of those weird old school type of things, you know, where it feels like a guy's got to pay or something. Or maybe he didn't even have the option because you did it behind his back too, for whatever

reason again. Like Jubal said, I would marry you. Right? I mean, a girl who can take care of herself, what's there not to like? Right. You need to date a new school dude who would use you for everything you're worth. Jubal. Phrased differently.

You look for a pool cleaner? All right. Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Phrase differently. You looking for a pool cleaner? Ha ha ha! All right, well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song, come back and then call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date, okay? Okay, thank you.

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If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up Hannah is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Luke so we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first Hannah why don't you refresh our memory on your date. Okay we went out for this super fun sushi, but I ended up paying at the end because I thought I'd ordered two expensive things. So I'm, I'm worried if that's why he disappeared. Okay.

I mean, I don't know. I could see some guy being like, I don't want to go out with you again because he wouldn't let me pay. I could actually see that happening. Cause he's probably like, if he's thinking like, okay, well, what do I have to bring to the table or like somehow feeling bad about it? don't know we'll see you ready for us to call him oh here we go okay here we go Hello? Hi, may I speak to Luke, please?

Hey, Luke, how are you? This is the Jubal show. It's a radio show. Hi, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name is Jubal. What's up? How are you?

I'm sorry. Is this like, is this like a prank or something? No, it's not actually. We're calling you for a different reason. Have you ever listened to the show before? Yeah, yeah, I just, I didn't expect you to call me. Okay, well we're calling you today because you're ghosting somebody

and we do a segment on the show called The First Aid Follow-Up, you know, where if you go on a date with someone and then you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to ask you why you're ghosting them. So do you know who would have emailed us about you? Uh, I am guessing this is about Hannah, right?

Yes! Oh! You gotta correct. Congratulations. You've won nothing so far. Are you ghosting her? I'm not like ghosting her intentionally. I don't know. The date was super fun. She's super cool.

But it was, it was honestly, it was just something that happened after. Okay. So you are ghosting her intentionally. She said she texted you and you didn't call her back. So. Yeah. So, yeah, here. OK, OK, but why? Yeah. So the deal is, so, you know, after a day, it was it was really good. And my buddy Andrew, so I was telling him about it.

And, you know, staying to sort of see paint for the meal. And I, you know, behind my back and I don you know, same associate paid for the meal and I, you know, behind my back and I don't know. I just thought it was kind of weird. So I'm telling him about it and he actually see a picture of her and I showed him a picture and he just started cracking up and it turns out that he went out with Hannah too. Oh, okay. You don't want to go with her because of that? No, no, no, no, no, no.

It's not only that. It was that she did like the same exact thing with him. They went to like a steakhouse and got all like this expensive stuff and like behind his back she paid without telling him. And then he was saying that like happened a bunch of times and he did. And he said his words that by the end, he felt like she was treating him like some sort of boy toy that she could like, you know, control with her money. Oh, okay.

And you don't want to be a boy toy. Is that what she's doing though? Or is that just, I mean, I don't know. I think it's like nice that she wants to treat you. Maybe not every single time, but do you think that she was making you feel like a boy toy at all, Luke, when you were out with her? I mean, I'm not going to like jump to that conclusion, but it just like, it felt weird, you know, like it felt really weird. Oh

Wow, so because I'm too generous I'm getting ghosted And it's on the phone listening and wants to talk to you Hey, how are you doing? Oh Hi Luke Hey, how are you doing? Oh, hi, Luke. I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was making you feel like my personal sugar baby. Seriously, Luke? I obviously had no idea that Andrew was your friend.

Also, Andrew seemed like super okay with the fact that I was paying for a lot of things. I have a nice job. He seems grateful. This is, this is news to me. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's that's Andrew, of course you're buying him something, but it just like sounded like a pattern. And I don't know, I didn't want to get wrapped up in this whole like, you're paying for everything and I'm just along for the ride thing.

I mean, that's not it at all. I'm just, you know, trying to not seem like a money grubbing woman myself. I have a nice job. So I wanted to get what I wanted to get without feeling guilty. So what? Isn't that a nice thing that I can take care of myself? Yeah, but I mean, like, you know, I can take care of myself too. And it just, it feels weird that you're just paying for everything.

I don't know. It just feels really weird. And I don't, I don't know, it just like you doing behind my back. Cool game. Well, that's fine. I'll find somebody who's hot and proud to be with a woman who can also take care of them. But wait, Hannah, what is it about paying for your men every time you go out with them that's like so important to you? Like what is it about paying behind their back and like doing it every time that you like? I'm not doing it every time. I just don't want to feel like I'm beholden to a man because I want really nice things. And I'm not expecting anybody to pay for that when they don't really know

me yet, you know? But you know, honestly, you're just missing out. You didn't even get to the part where I buy you colognes yet. a man, I want a man who adores me and is secure enough to, you know, be okay with that. I mean, I could buy my own clothes. It's insane that I could buy my own clothes. It makes me sound like I can't do this. Well, I mean, you can really, really use a stylist and new clothes because man, that outfit was not really impressed me.

But I'm done trying to impress someone who gets scared off by a little generosity. Well, Luke, would you like another date with Hannah? We'll pay for it. I don't even need an outfit. That's true. We shouldn't pay for it. I don't think I could, you know, I guess survive a whole wardrobe overhaul to, you know, to refer to pretty woman me. So I don't think so.

Alright, well no hard feelings, so good luck finding someone who won't spoil you too much, okay baby boy? Oh, dang. one who won't spoil you too much. Okay, baby boy. Join I Heart Radio and Sarah Spain in celebrating the one year anniversary of I Heart Women's Sports. With powerful interviews and insider analysis, our shows have connected fans with the heart of women's sports. In just one year, the network has launched 15 shows and built a community united by passion. Podcasts that amplify the voices of women in sports.

Thank you for supporting iHeart Women's Sports and our founding sponsors, Elf Beauty, Capital One, and Novartis. Just open the free iHeart app and search iHeart Women's Sports to listen now. The Girlfriends is back with a new season, and this time I'm telling you the story of Kelly Harnett. Kelly spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit.

As she fought for her freedom, she taught herself the law. He goes, oh God, Harnett, jailhouse lawyer. And became a beacon of hope for the women locked up alongside her. I'm supposed to have faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her. I think I was put here to save souls by getting people out of prison. The Girlfriends, Jailhouse Lawyer. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life

what that meant. For My Heart Podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is The Turning, River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to The Turning, River Road on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ian Pfaff, the creator and host of The Uncle Chris Podcast. My Uncle Chris was a real character, a garbage truck driver from South Carolina who is now buried in Panama City alongside the founding families of Panama. He also happens to be responsible for the craziest night of my life. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history, and war intertwine as I share the

tall tales and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.