First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - He's In an Open Relationship??

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

First Date Follow Up is when we get an email from someone who went on a date and the other person isn't calling back. We get that other person on the phone to see why they're "ghosting".Today Josh is on the phone and is not getting a call back from a girl named Elena! They have been talking for about a week now, and he feels like he really knows her! Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Jubal Show on demand. First date follow-up. Today, Josh is on the phone for a first date follow-up, and he's not getting a call back from a woman named Elena. And I guess they talked a bunch online before they met up, so he feels like he's known her forever. He said that in his email. What's up, Josh?

How are you? Hey, guys. How you doing? So how long have you actually known Elena? It's been almost a week. You know, we were, like you said, chatting for a while on the app. I thought it was going really well. We've had a couple dates in person already, which I thought went really well.

We went out to dinner the first time. I'm sorry, dude. I can't do this for you. It's a first date follow-up, and if you've been on a couple, sorry. This is like a third date follow-up. Or a second date follow-up. No, because if he's gone on two, then it'd be a third date follow-up.

We don't do third dates, only first dates. Only the first matters. You've got to read the fine print. Sorry, Josh. I guess we're not going to be able to do dates. Only the first? Yeah. Matters. You got to read the fine print. Sorry, Josh. I guess we're not going to be able to do your first date follow-up today. Good luck. Two is not a winner and three when no one remembers.

Yeah. Oh, no, sorry. I figured if you weren't hearing from your person, that was the criteria. We're kidding. It's fine. We're joking. Yeah, we're joking. We can still do it.

All right. All right. So it's been a week since you heard from her. You talked a bunch. And how many times have you reached out to her in that week? I think I left it at three. Three. Oh, that's a decent amount. That's not bad. But if she's not responding at all, then there's something wrong. Yeah. Tell us

what happened. What do you think went wrong? Well, first you went to dinner, right? You were saying on the first date? Yeah, first date was dinner. It was great. I felt like the conversation was really easy and we both felt comfortable staying there for an extra drink after the meal.

And then the second time she came over to my place, we watched a couple of movies. Oh, all right. Yeah, and I thought it was, you know, I thought it was great. I didn't get really any signs that Alana might be not into it. You guys do any kissing or adult activities? Or hugging?

No. No, but we were sitting pretty close to each other on the couch. I had some arm-to-arm contact, yeah. If I was talking to someone for a long time and then finally went out with them, even on a second date, I'd still probably be really nervous if I liked them a lot. And your email said it feels like you've known her forever. So you're obviously really into her. I could see how you'd be nervous. Yeah. I'm going to assume that maybe it's something that happened on the second date at your house, which is why she's not calling

you back. So was there anything that you can think of during the night that happened that maybe turned her off? I mean, I am wondering if even though she accepted the invite to come over, if that in itself was too much and she realized afterwards, why was I hanging out at this guy's house like I'm a regular there? But no, I mean, you know, we enjoyed the evening. I just, I don't know. I think maybe that might have been it,

that it was too much too soon in hindsight. Like moving too fast, you think? Yeah. But you guys didn't do anything. Yeah, you said you only were like sitting close to each other. No, but she was like in my pantry and stuff. It was like, in your pants. That's funny.

Pantry, okay. I was like, she's going somewhere else. It was really casual. It was like, my house is your house kind of thing. And I just wonder if that casualness felt weird realizing that it was a second date. Is she recently single? Yeah, actually, she, yeah.

That might make sense then. If she was chilling at your house and feeling so comfortable that she can go through your pantry and it might just feel too comfortable and remind her of being in a relationship because she might not want to be in a relationship like that.

So maybe she got scared. I don't know. Possibly. I'm just, I'm surprised I didn't get any of that in person, any of those things. I feel like it's something else. I'm trying to speculate. Is that the only thing you can think of? The chat slowed down a bit since we started seeing each other in person, which kind of makes sense, right?

There was a lot of that beforehand and not as much. I wouldn't think that would be normal. I don't know. Well, I mean, we just talked about a lot in person so i don't know maybe maybe that's why i don't know because i feel like if the chat slowed down too i think if you guys were getting more into each other there would be more texting but we'll play a song come back and then we'll call her and see if we can figure out why she's ghosting you okay okay thanks we'll get your first date follow-up next you're just joining us for today's first date follow up Josh is on the phone

And Josh sent us an email because he's not getting a call back From a woman named Elena And he feels like he's known her forever Except now she's a stranger for a week She hasn't responded to him in a week since their last date They talked a bunch I guess on an app when they met And then they've had two dates The last date was at his place. They watched

some movies, hung out. No official Netflix and chill. She went into the pantry though. Yeah, she went into his pantry. Well, I'm sure she was hungry. Yeah. They ate. They sat next to each other. No hot, steamy action. But the only reason that Josh can think of that she's ghosting him is because

he thinks that maybe she felt a little too comfortable at his place and that was awkward for her and that doesn't sound like a really good reason so we we don't think that's right so we're gonna call it right now and see if we can figure it out all right josh you ready to go i cannot wait for atlanta to go on a third date with me all right there we go all right all right here we go I'm on dollar number right now. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Elena?

Yeah, this is Elena. Elena, how are you? This is The Jubal Show. My name's Jubal. Mine's Alex Fresh. Mine's English Evan. And The Jubal Show. My name's Jubal. Mine's Alex Fresh. Mine's English Evan. And The Jubal Show is a radio show you may or may not have heard of. Have you heard?

No, I'm sorry. I don't know who this is. Okay, that's fine. Well, we know who you are. Why are you calling? We're calling because we do a segment on our show called The First Date Follow-Up. That's where if you go out on a date with someone and then you ghost them, they can email us to get you on the phone to try to figure out what happened. And we got an email about you from someone who listens to the show.

Okay. Would you have any idea who we're talking about? Yeah, is it a guy named Josh? Is Josh the only guy that you're currently ghosting? Yeah. Correct. Congratulations. It is Josh. Is Josh the only guy that you're currently ghosting? Uh, yeah. Correct. Congratulations. It is Josh.

You're correct. Josh emailed us and he wants to know why you won't call or text him back. Okay. Um, did he tell you like about the date? Uh, yeah. He told us that you guys went to dinner on your first date and for your second day that you went to his house. He told us that they were very good dates. He liked you a lot.

I mean, there's nothing like dramatic there. It's not like the dates are fine. Um, I'll tell you, um, let me tell you what he thought and then you can say if he's right or wrong, okay? Because we talked to him. He did, he said he really liked you a lot and he sounds kind of bummed out that you have stopped talking to him out of the blue and he thinks the reason is because

when you were at his house watching movies, you were very comfortable there. Was he correct? No, actually. It was just kind of, I didn't mean to like ghost him for any reason. It's just, so we've gone on two dates, and it's just really hard to get a hold of him. So even though it's, like, two dates and, like, talking on the app before, it just, it was like pulling teeth. Like, I don't know if he was busy or what but it was

like so if you text him does it take him just a long time to respond yeah or even to like make and confirm plans it's like i want to do better great let's do it you know make plans i didn't do that but yeah so do you feel like he's making excuses to not make plans with you? Yeah. Like, I don't know what's going on with him. It sounds like he has a girlfriend to me. Which is exactly what I thought. So I was kind of like, you know what?

I'm not invested enough yet in this. Yeah. You don't want to be anyone's side piece. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And I felt like, you know, like if you want to to see me then at least make an effort as well um and so i felt like it was almost it wasn't that he wasn't uninterested but like wasn't making an effort to like make more plans with me so i kind of just called it and you know what's funny elena is that when you pulled back and obviously you ghosted him then he emailed us

so he was like you know he wanted what he couldn't have. Yeah. And then like on our, you know, the second date, I was at his house and we were watching a movie and he didn't even like try to kiss me or, you know, like pull a move. So I don't even know if he's into me that way at all yet. I do think he's into you because he emailed us to try to get you on the phone

and find out why you're not getting back to him. Thank you for telling us. We should ask him if that is the reason. Yeah. You think so? I do. I think we should. Elena, do you think we should ask him?

Should we just ask him? Yeah, I mean, you guys, you can if you want to. And guess what? It's super easy to do that right now because he's actually on the other line listening and wants to talk to you oh my goodness i just feel a little embarrassed because um she's right i've been hard to make plans but it's just been very busy and i want my checking in you know Elena those three messages

and I left it at that because I didn't want to bother you was not to make plans but just to like say hey and see what you're doing because you know the next couple weeks is just really tough so you're not in a relationship no here's the deal here's the deal i didn't make a move and i was nervous because i am was waiting to tell you that i'm in an open relationship and wanted to feel this thing out before i sprung that on you to see if you would even be interested in being with a guy in an open relationship oh my god whoa okay you could have told us that at the beginning you probably should have told her yeah that's what i was gonna say you should have told her you should have told me that from the beginning because we've been talking for a while and we've been on two dates

and there was plenty of time for you to tell me this because it could have been a deal breaker it is a deal breaker for me i don't want to be with someone who's in an open relationship i want an exclusive relationship and i do appreciate you not like making a move on me because of that but i didn't know why well and the reason honestly that i had trouble making a third date plan was you ate the goldfish in the pantry and my girlfriend was like who ate these and i had to explain this whole thing if we had our date at the place but it's not a big deal and like no way i'm still dealing with that elena did you not see like could you not tell that a girl lived there i couldn't like there wasn't anything specific like no pictures or anything obviously but i had a feeling i just didn't know what the situation was so So you didn't go in their bedroom?

No, I didn't go into his bedroom. Can you see, though, that that's kind of wasting people's time? Yeah, I get that. Elena, would you like to go on another date with Josh? We'll pay for it. Josh, I think you're great. I'm not interested in seeing you again. Well, if you, you know, things change, I'll let you know and you let me know and hope to see you around.

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