First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - How do you make something very romantic sound not romantic at all?

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

First Date Follow Up is when we get an email from someone who went on a date and the other person isn't calling back. We get that other person on the phone to see why they're "ghosting".There is an ol...d saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so is romance! We might just have the most romantic things ever said in a First Date Follow Up, except it is not going to sounds romantic at all! Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone. It's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:01:21 You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow the Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. The Jubal Show on demand. First day follow up. Time for your first day follow up. And Zane is on the phone today. He met a girl named Ella at a rooftop birthday party, but now he's not getting a call back and he has no idea why. Zane, thank you for your email. Before we get into the date and why you think she might be ghosting you. How long has it been since you met Ella?
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's been about a week or so. A week or so. Okay. And how many times have you tried to reach out to Ella in that week or so? A few times, you know, like texting, calling, Facebook. All right, so more than five times or less than five times? Less than five. I don't want to seem like a stalker, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, good, good. That's a good amount. Okay, so tell us a little bit about Ella and your date. Well, you know, it was kind of interesting how we met. We met at a rooftop party, you know. Some friends and I were coming in. We were kind of dressed up, dressed funny and all that. You were dressed funny?
Starting point is 00:02:35 You didn't like your outfit? No, no, no. Not that. I mean, on purpose, we were dressed funny, you know. Oh, okay. Why? Because, you know, we were at a pub crawl, and it was themed. It was like denim, all denim kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Okay. Denim, denim, denim. So you were in all denim? So was it like a Canadian tuxedo-themed pub crawl? Because I've been in one of those where everything you wear is denim. Exactly. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:01 So you went from the pub crawl to the rooftop party, and that's where you met Ella. That's right. And we locked eyes, and, I mean, we were, you know, definitely flirting and into each other, you could tell. And then I asked her if she might want to go to brunch and meet the next morning, and she said yes, and I was pumped. That's exciting. You know, and I was super excited, you know, and so the next day I got there a little early and uh oh man when she walked in i almost my parents because she was so beautiful i see yeah you looked up and you were like wow and she moved in slow motion and then you almost messed yourself oh wow happens to me daily i mean
Starting point is 00:03:37 that's what i say to alex alex and i married if you don't know that she i tell her all the time she moves in slow motion and a lot of times it does make me want to do that to my pants. So I get that feeling. Does she feel the same about you? I think so. I mean, I hope so. I mean, although I don't know if I've ever made a girl shit in her pants because I look so good. Why do you think she's not calling you back? You know, I really don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I honestly have no idea. I thought it went really well. I'll be honest, though. I actually kind of did end up talking about my ex, and I'm wondering if that might have done it. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, you don't talk about your ex on a first date. Nah. You know, I didn't really want to, but believe it or not, my ex ended up being at the same restaurant. I'm like, oh, no, no, that's my ex.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Oh, that must have been weird. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and I was like, oh, man. And then I actually pointed her out, right? And I just, I don't know what, I mean, I just started talking about her for like two minutes and just tearing her apart. And then I thought, I said, I stopped myself. Oh, no, I, you know you know that that probably wasn't a good idea and i think that's what might be why she's not calling me back yeah not only are you talking
Starting point is 00:04:51 about your ex but like that kind of is a reflection of you too so yeah you're talking about her but your date she's probably like judging you because of that exactly and you know i wouldn't have said anything but you know she was there and and uh i, but, you know, she was there and I don't know. Yeah, it was not a good coincidence. I mean, that definitely could be the reason you're not getting a call back. Not necessarily the best look. I think a good look would probably be if you saw your ex and you're like, holy crap, that's my ex over there. And then pretty much leave it at that and then have just a normal date with the woman you're out with. It probably looks like, oh, that's cool. He's completely over.
Starting point is 00:05:23 If you spend a bunch of time talking about her, it might look like you're still hung up on your ex. That's a good point. Or maybe just not even acknowledge that she's there, right? Not say anything at all. Yeah, that would be difficult. What the heck are they doing here? That would be tough. Right. So she hasn't talked to you at all since your date?
Starting point is 00:05:39 That's right. And I, you know, called, texted a few times, just radio silence. How did everything end? Did she seem cool at the end of the date? Yeah, she seemed fine. You know, she gave me a hug and said, you know, I hope to see you again. And, you know, text me later kind of thing. Okay. I mean, she made the offer for you to text her and she's been ghosting you.
Starting point is 00:05:59 All right, well, we'll see if we can figure it out. We'll play a song, come back and then call her and ask her why and try to get you another date in your first date follow up right after this. Okay? Okay, great. Thanks. I'm a little nervous, but thank you. All right, we'll do it out. We'll play a song, come back, and then call her and ask her why and try to get you another date in your first date follow-up right after this, okay? Okay, great. Thanks. I'm a little nervous, but thank you. All right, we'll do it next. Right in the middle of your first date follow-up, if you're just joining us, Zane is on the phone, and Zane went out with a woman named Ella.
Starting point is 00:06:16 He met her at a friend's rooftop party. He thought she was gorgeous, so they started flirting. Then he asked her to brunch the next morning. She said yes, and holy crap, he was happy about that. He skipped out of the party and went home and didn't even sleep a wink that night. He spent the whole night brushing his hair in the mirror waiting for the next morning. I don't know if he did that or not, but that's what it sounds like to me because he was obviously really into Ella. And so they did meet up for brunch.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Zane said the date went great. He really liked her a lot. And the only reason he can think that he's getting ghosted by Ella is because his ex was actually at the same restaurant when they were eating brunch. He noticed it. Obviously, that freaked him out. He said he pointed it out to his date. And then Zane says he realized about two minutes later that he had just spent the last two minutes talking crap about his ex. And that probably wasn't a good look. And it might be the reason that she's not calling him back because it's been about two weeks and he has not heard from her at all. He's reached out to her a couple of times and has gotten nothing back
Starting point is 00:07:06 zane are you ready for us to call her and see if that is the reason that she's not calling you back uh yeah i think i'm i'm ready all right thank you yeah here we go all right let's do this Hello? Hi, may I speak to Ella, please? This is she. Hey, Ella, how are you? This is the Jubal Show. It's a radio show. My name is Jubal.
Starting point is 00:07:34 My name is Alex. My name is Bennett. I'm good. Great. What do you got going on today? Are you busy right now? Can we talk to you for a few minutes? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:07:45 I'm at work, but I really want to see where this goes. Okay, great. So, hey, I don't know how much you listen to the show, but we do a segment on the show called The First Date Follow-Up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and end up ghosting them, they email us to get you on the phone and ask why. And we got an email about you from a guy that you went on a date with. And you've been ghosting him.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay. And he wants to know why. Oh my gosh. Is this Zane? Is it Wayne? Dwayne? Zane? Zane?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Is it Zane? Zane. Yes, it is Zane. I don't know if you've been out with a Wayne or a Vane or a Lane or a Dane. But it's Zane. Zane is the guy that you're out with a Wayne or a Vane or a Lane or a Dane, but it's Zane. Zane is the guy that you're not calling back. He emailed us because he said he really liked you.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Meeting, like running each other at the party and like we really connected and like had the whole eye locking thing where you're like, ooh, you know. And then brunch was great until it wasn't great anymore. What happened at brunch? Well, I don't know what he told you because I've heard these things and guys leave stuff out all the time. Yeah, they do. They definitely do. I'll tell you what he told us. So he said that you guys went to brunch.
Starting point is 00:08:55 He actually said, and this is his words, not mine. He said he got there early. When you showed up, he looked over and saw you and thought you looked so beautiful that he almost his pants. That's what he said. So that's a compliment. And then he said that conversation and stuff was good. He really liked you a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But his ex-girlfriend actually happened to be at the restaurant and he pointed that out. And then he said that he realized that he had talked for like two or three minutes about how terrible she was and then like stopped himself because he realized that was probably awkward for you. And that's the only thing he can think of that might be a reason you're not calling him back. Okay. So yeah, all that happened. Um, and that really wasn't what made the date so weird. It was after he got, he stopped talking about her.
Starting point is 00:09:37 He went to the bathroom and came back and like took a while and he looked like he had been like crying heavily. Oh no. Yeah. To me it's like okay dude is still into his ex this is awkward wait so you think he went into the bathroom to cry i don't know like he went to the bathroom and i'm right after the conversation and after seeing her and then came back with like really watery red eyes and like sniffly and so i mean it looked
Starting point is 00:10:03 like crying to me and it happened at the same time of all the ex-girlfriend's drama. Oh, no. Oh. Okay. Baggage.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah. Lots of baggage. Baggage claim. So you think he was in the bathroom crying after he saw his girlfriend, like legit?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, I don't know what else to think other than you're fine, we have the conversation, you see the ex, you get all worked up about it and talk some shit and then you go to the bathroom and come back really red face red eyes and sniffly did you ask him about it like did you ask him are you okay
Starting point is 00:10:34 i did i was like are you good and he said yeah and i was like are you sure everything's cool with her being here because i mean i didn know what. And he was really short then. Like, he wouldn't talk about it anymore at all, which was also weird because he just ranted about her for, like, two or three minutes. And now he won't talk about her at all. So I just assumed he got, like, an emotional roller coaster and wasn't really over her. Right. Yeah. That's definitely why I didn't call him back or respond to any text or anything.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Because if you're crying over an ex in the bathroom, I don't think you're ready to be dating. And definitely didn't have the same connection I did with him. And I wasn't about to follow up with that. Right. Right. OK. Maybe he was in the bathroom pooping because he's pushing. Sometimes it can hurt and you cry.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah. Allergies. And you're so beautiful that it was like a really big one. Maybe that's it. We should ask him. Let's ask him that. Let's do. Because he's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He is. Oh, I forgot y'all do that. Yes. People always forget that too. Zane, are you still there? Hi. Hey, Zane. Sorry to set you up like this, but you know, I just had to know, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah. It's a little awkward. I don't think it's awkward at all. So that's why you want to call me back cause you thought I was going to have some to cry about my ex girlfriend. Yeah. Like it just took such a weird turn and I tried to ask you if you were okay and it just got shut down. Yeah, I totally felt that. Okay. I understand. I just, you know, I was not crying. Uh, I was just super tired and I was sneezing.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I had an allergy attack. It's just super weird that you were fine before the ex-conversation, before you saw her, and then all of a sudden you're pissed off that she's there. And then you go to the bathroom and you come back all blotchy. Like, that's weird. Okay. And I also puke because I was hungover. That's really what it is. Sounds like.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It was a pub crawl the night before, remember? Okay, I can believe that part because you were thrown in back and pretty wasted the night before. But I don't believe the allergies at all. Okay, okay. It was mostly the throw up. Okay, but I was definitely throwing up because of alcohol and not because of my ex. I don't, you know, I don't care enough about her to throw up over her. Okay, so I do believe that part because you were very adamant that you did not care for her.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah, you know, and I mean, I don't care enough about her to throw up over her. You know, and like I told these guys earlier, you know, that I mean, when I saw you, I almost f***ed my pants over you. I would never have done that over my ex. That might be one of the sweetest things anybody has ever said in a first date follow up. Ella, would you like to go on another date with Zane? We'll pay for it. I think that we should not do brunch after a pub crawl and a rooftop party, but I think we could try.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So, Zane, that is a yes. I will go back out with you again. Awesome. That's great. Yeah, did it. Oh, thanks. Well, now I've got to go change my pants. Get it?
Starting point is 00:13:46 You know, the shit in your pants show, you know, just like I thought I did, you know. OK. I was just making a joke, you know, that I was so happy I s*** my pants, but I didn't really s*** my pants. My pants are fine. Well, great. Congratulations. The Jubal Show on demand. Hey, everyone. It's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews and more. Now, this is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to The Daily Show Ears Edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. dive into one global business story that matters. You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt
Starting point is 00:15:25 Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow the Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

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