First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Is he naïve or lying to himself about what happened?

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

First Date Follow Up is when we get an email from someone who went on a date and the other person isn't calling back. We get that other person on the phone to see why they're "ghosting".One of our listeners is one the phoen and is not getting a call back after a date he went on, but he swears he is not getting ghosted because he is not the type of guy to get ghosted!! WHat does he mean by that? Find out if he is actually getting ghosted and why in this new First Date Follow Up!Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Jubal Show on demand. First day follow-up. Jackson is on the phone today for a first day follow-up. He's getting ghosted by a girl named Erica. Jackson,

how are you? I'm pretty good. How are you? Good, man. You sound pretty good for being ghosted. I don't know if it's really ghosted, but maybe holding off is what I think, honestly. You don't know if you're getting ghosted or you don't think you're getting ghosted? No, I don't think so.

I just think, I mean, in short, we'll get into it, but I think we just have a pretty strong connection and that scared her a little bit, which I totally get. I mean, I kind of get that pretty often. Do you think that you scared her? Maybe scared her is not the right word, but she just said she wasn't currently looking for a relationship right now, and I said that's fine. I'm kind of figuring my own stuff out, too, but we had strong connection and I think because of that she's like oh I probably can't

hang out with that guy we're all you know messing around and falling in love so so what happened on the date and leading up to the date that makes you feel like she was basically having a love at first sight moment and was in his fighting it um when we first met we met up at we met at this bar um there was like a little it's like more like at the top of this place they have cocktails you know all that good stuff first she came up to me really you know which i thought was pretty cool and we found out that we both loved old fashions and then she was like what book are you reading you know know? And so we hit it off a little bit about that. Um, and, uh, you know, she asked me about the book. She thought

it was intriguing. Um, so we hit it off and I was like, well, yeah, let me get your number. Um, we ended up, so basically we went back to the same place. I, you know, we texted for a little bit. I was like, Hey, I'll have to really, hey after like um you know a couple weeks of some here and there texting but uh whatever we were like i was like hey you know i got some free time do you want to go back out there and uh you know get get a couple of fashions and like a couple small plates we got a pretty nice fancy charcuterie board that they were doing um i thought we had some great conversation honestly Honestly, the girl lit up the room. She was great. We had to change some humor.

She asked me about my life a little bit. I asked about hers. And then, you know, I didn't really, I definitely, you know, it was during the week, so we didn't stay super late or whatever. But like I said, I thought it went great, and I just haven't heard from her since. So, you know, to be honest, I think I do know why she's ghosting, and if I could just get on the phone with her and say a couple words, I think she'll be comfortable with the connection and be okay with potentially falling for me down the road, or even soon. You think you know why she's ghosting you yeah and like i said i mentioned this at the beginning of the

conversation um i really just think she's scared of the connection that we have um because i don't think she's had that with anybody else recently you know at least from what she said her dating experiences were so you know i feel like ultimately she's just hesitant to continue to hang out with me for fear of like getting in a relationship sooner than she wants to. Interesting. Fall in love too quick. Well, I mean, this could be a really good thing, you know, get these lovers on the right path. You know, the thing is, I get this often. Most girls don't want to just mess around with me.

They're like, immediately they want to be with me. I mean, I have a lot of qualities that people really like. Okay. You got confidence, too. That's good. A lot going for you. Yeah. All right.

Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you, Jackson. We'll play a song, come back, and then call her and try to find out why she's ghosting you, okay? That's how you make it. All right. We'll get your first date follow-up next. If you're just joining us for today's first date follow-up, Jackson is on the phone, and Jackson's a bit of a catch. And he's not getting a call back from a date he went on with a woman named Erica. Jackson, real quick for anybody who's just joining us,

why don't you give us a recap of your situation? Yeah, you know, I met this girl at this cool place that we both go to. We hit it off on a book I'm reading that we like, Old Fashions with Basil Hayden. I decided, you know, after a little while to meet back up there with her. We did. We had a fancy charcuterie. It was fire. We had great, you know, two old fashions, had great conversation.

And, you know, I thought I was going to, you know, lead to another one. And I just haven't heard from her. And like I said, like, you know, I think I don't know if I'm being ghosted. I think that she's just scared to fall in love with me because she said she didn't want to get into a relationship just yet with anyone, and I really just need to probably get her on the phone because I know I can make this happen.

All right, Jackson. We're going to call her right now. Are you ready? We'll see if we can figure out why she's ghosting. I'd love that. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. All right. Hello. Hi, may I speak to Erica, please? This is she. Erica, how are you? My name

is Jubal from a radio show called The Jubal Show. He's not by himself, Erica. I'm Nina. I'm here, too. Hi, Anna Victoria. I'm sorry. What is this about? We do a segment on our show and it's called the first date follow up where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up getting ghosted, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. And we got an email about you from one of our listeners. They say that you went out on a date and now you're not calling them back. Oh, you did?

Yes. Do you know who that is? I think so, yeah. His name is Jackson. Oh, dear. Is that the only person you're ghosting? I wouldn't really consider it ghosting. I think it's just something fizzling out.

I mean, it never was anything. So why do you think that the fizzle has started? Okay, so it is him? Yes, it is Jackson. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I would say that we had a nice little connection at first, you know, with our cocktails and stuff.

It was fun but oh my gosh just the more i talked to him the more just crazy things he started saying that were just absolutely ridiculous like what flat out lying he was just so like grandiose i mean he said that his something like great great grandfather was the king of egypt i mean it was absurd. Do you know that he was lying about that? We talked to Jackson. He seemed like a cool guy when he was telling us about your date. Yeah, well, I guess that's his initial charm.

But, yeah, he told me that his great-grandfather's name was Omari and he was the king of Egypt. And, you know, I thought it was kind of crazy, but, you know, I did my research when I got back home. No, there's no King Omari in Egypt. There's just not. It's just way too strange. What did you say to that?

You know, like what happened? I believe that's a really big lie. Yeah, I mean, that's a big thing to lie about. I mean, he certainly acted like he was entitled to it. What does that mean? He was very, shall we say, confident. Confidence can be sexy. Too much.

Honestly, I really think he was just overcompensating, didn't feel, for some reason, comfortable enough to be himself, so he said all these crazy things like, oh, my great-grandfather's the king of egypt and well my uncle he is the owner of the jelly belly company to be honest just after that i really had no desire to talk to him anymore well erica you're probably not gonna like this

then because jackson's actually on the phone he's been listening this whole time and he wants to talk to you whole time so anyways first of first those those emails are real and also it was not amari it was omir so i don't even know if you typed in the right thing but like it sounds like you didn't really do your research in the right way, because you would have totally found my family's lineage in Egypt, and they're not even kings, they're pharaohs, and I said that in the first place, so clearly you have no confidence in me. So, I had to have all the confidence, because, like, you know, you don't even believe in me. Jackson, you did say that you believe that she did have feelings for you, though. I know she does. She's even she's just dialing more into that and saying that it's not true about all this stuff. But it's really because she just has feelings for me.

So, like. OK, but like, do you even hear yourself just the way you're talking about yourself is just so unbelievably self-important like how dare i not believe your inheritance and like that stuff shouldn't matter you can't say you're giving someone the benefit of the doubt when you're like, give them the benefit of the doubt in 15 seconds. Like, you literally probably got in your Uber and, like, went on to Google search. Like, this just doesn't even make sense. Like, you know we have a real connection.

Oh, my gosh. Okay, clearly we're not on the same page here. Like I said, I do have, like, a pretty good amount of inheritance coming along, so... Oh, again with the inheritance. I'm just saying, I thought you said you were looking for, like, a stable guy and everything, so... No, I said I wasn't looking for anything serious right now. And also, by the way, a stable guy would not feel the need to reassure me that he's so stable. Eric, come on.

You're only lying to yourself at this point. I don't buy it. They don't buy it. Really, I know you have feelings for me, and I know it scares you that I come from royalty, and you could be an heiress to that, but like you really just, you know, you need to just dig deep within yourself right now, you know, and, and really get within your heart and, uh,

and just give this a real chance because I know you want to, you and I both know that you want to. Yeah. Erica, would you like another date with Jackson? We'll pay for it. Yeah, no. And actually, I have to go right now. I have somewhere to be.

And she hung up. Oh, Jackson. It's okay. She's going to call me back. I'm pretty certain of it. You sure you want her to call you back? I mean, you know, just a little rustle and tussle has never

hurt anything. Chivalry isn't dead, as they say. I told you I come from royalty. We court women around here. The Jubal Show on demand. Hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch, right

in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show,

which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show, ears edition podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews, and more. Now this is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to The Daily Show Ears Edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decisions Decisions, the podcast where boundaries are pushed and conversations get candid. Join your favorite hosts, me, Weezy WTF, and me, Mandy B,

as we dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. That's right. Every Monday and Wednesday, we both invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, we share our personal journeys navigating our 30s, tackling the complexities

of modern relationships, and engage in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that'll resonate with your experiences, Decisions Decisions is going to be your go-to source for the open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world.

Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections. Tune in and join in the conversation. Listen to Decisions Decisions on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.