First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Jenna & Luca - Oat Milk, Crystals, and Something on the Nose

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

In this First Date Follow Up, Jenna wants to know why Luca suddenly vanished after their dog-park-to-coffee date that felt perfect, until it didn’t. From oat-milk foam flirting to unexpected crystals, vibe checks, and a “nose kiss moment” she swears was romantic, things took a turn she never saw coming. When we finally get Luca on the phone, his reason for ghosting is not what Jenna expected… or what you will. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys, online at Advocateslaw.com. Jenna is on the phone today for a first day of follow-up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Luca. So in a few minutes, we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first, Jenna, how long has it been since you heard from Luca? It has been a week. I haven't heard anything in a week.

Okay. That's usually the spot where everybody starts to panic a little bit. How many times did you reach out to him in that time? Probably like once a day. You know, I just usually sent him photos of my dog because he, that's how we met. Our dog totally hit it off. And at first I was getting like a little. little bit of feedback and now just nothing.

Okay. Well, let's talk about the date then. Well, we met at a dog park. Well, actually, our dogs met first. His golden doodle literally tackled my pug, beans, and it felt meant to be. And we ended up grabbing coffee after, and I got a lavender oat milk latte, obviously. Obviously. And he got like black drip.

coffee so I was like okay edgy you like that huh I was intrigued yeah and then so we sat on this cute patio outside and we just talked for like two hours

about astrology about oat milk conspiracies about his tattoo that he swears in the moon but it totally is okay he has a tattoo that he says

isn't the moon, but it is? Yeah, he was trying to say it was like some other, I don't even, like some other edgy kind of niche thing, but I was like, that's literally a moon. Oh, so it's like, Trouble when people are like, that's an artichoke and you're like, no,

the tattoo on my neck is a lotus flower. But it does look like an artichael little bit, so yeah. Okay. And at one point, he literally watched me Parallel Park, and he didn't even, he didn't even judge, so,

I feel like that's intimacy. Oh, yeah. I mean, in a way, okay. Like you feel comfortable. Yeah, absolutely. It felt so comfortable and so natural. Well, then what could have gone wrong? I truly don't know.

At one point, he wiped oat milk foam off of my nose with his finger, and he licked it. It just made me feel like he was really into me. Like, I don't know how else to interpret that. Like, it feels like he's, he's into me. He was into it. I didn't lick it off your nose. No, he, he wiped it off of his finger and then licked it off of his finger, which still, I'm like. I would think that too.

Yeah, for sure. I'd be a little weird out if you licked it straight off the nose. And, yeah, he said, at one point of the day, he said, you're really calming to be around. Like, that's not the friend zone. Like, that's future wife in a linen dress energy. Okay. So what do you think the thing is? Why do you think you're getting ghosted?

Well, okay. So when he, when he wiped the oat milk off of my nose, I leaned in to kiss his nose. I just felt like since he licks the foam off my nose or with his finger, I just felt it was only right to balance it with like a romantic, like little nose pack. In a moment, it felt really romantic, but the way he reacted was shocked. Really? What did he do?

We laughed about it. What about how silly it was? I thought I was embarrassed, but I thought we were back on track. But maybe he's still thinking about it. I hope not. I'm thinking about it. How do you mean to kiss somebody's enough? I mean, okay.

So you think maybe it was the nose kiss that did it? That's the only thing I can think of because other than that, we really vibed. We really did. Okay. Did you use tongue on his nose? Um, no. Okay. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Yeah, no French, no's French case. Okay. Like, Nina, that goes too far. I feel better about that then. Okay. All right, well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song, come back, and then call him and see if they'll tell us why he's ghosting you. And maybe get you a second date, okay?

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We hit it off. We absolutely vibes. So we went to get coffee and talked for like two hours about everything under the sun, really. And he, the craziest part is that he, like, I had oatmeal foam on my nose. And he wiped it off with his finger and licked it. And I think I'm getting ghosted. So I'm just confused. Because that would be like, I'm into you moment.

I'm not looking foam off of my finger if I don't like you. Exactly. And you think you might be getting ghosted because at the end of the. date you kissed his nose to balance the nose action at the there was one awkward moment i was trying to roll with the whole like kissing the nose thing and so i kissed his nose and it was awkward but we but we laughed it off and so i'm hoping it's not bad but that's the only thing i can what base is nose action like that's funny no's action not a lot of days is that first dates have nose action so that's pretty good day um all right you ready for us to call him

Yes. Okay, here we go. Hello? This is he, who's this? Hey, Luca, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Luca. I'm Nina.

Hi, and I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. How are you? What's up? I'm all right. So there's three you guys? Yeah. You listen to the show ever? Yeah, yeah.

I've listened to you guys before. I mean, it's just kind of weird that you guys are calling me, you know? Sure. Well, we're calling you today because we got an email about you from somebody. Okay. A good email or like a bad email? Like, what kind of email? Yeah, it's a great email, actually.

But we do a segment called the first date follow up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. Okay. So we got an email about you from somebody that you're ghosting. Okay. Do you know who that would be? Um, I mean, I got a guess.

I got a guess. Okay. I'll take a guess. I mean, is it Jenna, the, uh, the lavender latte girl? Yes, it is Jenna. Lavender latte. Yes, it is. Yeah.

Can you tell us, you might tell us why you're ghosting her? I mean, she was just, she was just kind of weird, you know? I mean, I mean, be unique, fine, you know, but like she brought a crystal to the coffee date. Like, she's like a literal amethyst and sat on the table so it needed to charge. And she proceeded to give me like a 12 minute speech about how she and her dog are twin souls. Oh, okay. She asked me if I ever felt emotionally manipulated by her coffee order, you know, like, what? Emotionally manipulated by her coffee order.

What does that mean? Yeah, yeah. That was a conversation starter. It's called depth, Luca. Luca, that's Jenna. She's on the phone and wants to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah, oh, great, yeah.

Blindsided by that. What's up, Jenna? I was. I was just being authentic. But you literally said that you wanted someone grounded in real, so I showed up real. You asked the barista if the oak milk had been vibe-checked. Like, it was a little odd. Mercury was acting weird.

Energy matters. I mean, you also tried to sage the table. You know, like, that's the... It was Palisanto. I was protecting our connection. I just slightly, lightly, lightly burned it. Jenna, listen, you're super interesting. You're funny.

But did you notice that I barely said two words about myself? What? No. Well, we had like a... Great flow. Let's see. You had a monologue, right? I know about your dog's dreams, your third eye chakra, your plant abandonment issues.

What about me? Did you even know that I'm an engineer? Oh, you're an engineer? That's cool. That's dope. So I guess that's a no, Jenna. You didn't know. You didn't know that.

No, I didn't. Yeah, that's because we never got to meet in the conversation. It was just, I mean, you don't know that I moved here, where I moved from, or that I just simply don't believe in the chakras and the crystals and all this. You just moved here from where? I don't think that's the point, Jenna. Okay, I'm sorry for being in tune with myself. I'm not trying to knock it, all right? Like, you know, I just felt like you weren't really open to who I am.

You know, you were interviewing me for a vibe check. Like, you wanted to see if our vibes match, and that's it. I thought that we clicked. I mean, you're not boring. All right, I'll give you that. Well, okay, what if we try again, and maybe we do something quieter, like a walk, with the dogs, and no talking about past lives. Good boundary. Luca, would you like another day with Jenna will pay for it?

Listen, I would. Jenna, I think you're a lot of things, but just maybe not my thing. Okay? Like, you're cool, but I don't think so. Just admit it. You vibed more with my dog than me. Oh, yeah, 100%. Your dog is chill.

Like, I love the dog. That's because he's spiritually grounded, unlike some people. Can I go on a second date with just a dog? Is that cool? I mean, no, we're inseparable. He gets separation anxiety. I couldn't just give you him. I think he was joking, but...

Oh, okay. Well, then, I mean, yeah, sure. Okay. Jubel's first date follow-up. I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast. called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history.

And some of the worst people. Horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline is. The most Texas story ever. Listen to Business History on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasters, it's time to get the recognition you deserve. The IHeart Podcast Awards are coming.

back in 2026. Got a mic? Then you've got a shot. Every year we celebrate the most creative, compelling, and game-changing voices in podcasting. Is that you? Submit now at iHeartPodcastawards.com

for a chance to be honored on the biggest stage in the industry. Deadline December 7th. This is your chance. Let's celebrate the power of podcasting and your place in it. Enter now at iHeartpodcastawards.com. What do you get when you mix

1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream? and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time. You get Desi Arness. On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life, how he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines,

waiting for a face like hours on screen. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer.

And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. So check out the Mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all?

it's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who have had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly.

The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kev on Stage, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.