First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Jenna & Luca - The Lavender Latte Incident

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

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Jenna is on the phone today for a first date follow-up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Luca. So in a few minutes, we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first, Jenna, how long has it been since you heard from Luca? Uh, it has been a week. I haven't heard anything in a week. Okay. That's probably the spot where everybody starts to panic a little bit. How many times did you reach out to him in that time? the spot where everybody starts to panic a little bit. How many times did you reach out to him in that time?

Probably like once a day. You know, I just usually sent him photos of my dog because he, that's how we met. Our dog totally hit it off. And at first I was getting like a little bit of feedback and now just nothing. Okay. Well, let's talk about the date then. Well, we met at the dog park.

Well, actually our dog was met first. His golden doodle literally tackled my pug, Beans. And it felt meant to be. And we ended up grabbing coffee after and I got a lavender oat milk latte, obviously. Obviously. And he got like black drip coffee. So I was like, okay, edgy. You like that, huh? I was intrigued.

Yeah. And then so we sat on this cute patio outside and we just talked for like two hours about astrology, about oat milk conspiracies, about his tattoo that he swears is the moon, but it totally is. Okay, wait, he has a tattoo that he says isn't the moon, but it is? Yeah, he was trying to say it was like some other, I don't even like some other edgy kind of niche thing. But I was like, that's literally a moon. Oh, so it's like triple when people are like, that's an artichoke. And you're like, no, the tattoo on my neck is a lotus flower.

But it does look like an artichoke a little bit. So, yeah. OK. And at one point, he literally watched me parallel park and he didn't even he didn't even judge so I I feel like that's intimacy Okay, thank you feel comfortable Yeah, absolutely. It felt so comfortable and so natural. Well, then what could have gone wrong? I I truly don't know at one point. He wiped oat milk foam off of my nose with his finger and he licked it. It just made me feel like he was really into me like I don't know how

else to interpret that like it feels like he's he's into me he was into it. He didn't lick it off your nose. No he he wiped it off of his finger and then licked it off of his finger which still I'm like I would think that too. Yeah for sure I'd be a little weird out if he licked it straight off the nose. And yeah he said at one point of the day he said you're really calming to be around like that's not the friend zone like that's future wife in a linen dress energy. OK, so what do you think the thing is? Why do you think you're getting ghosted?

Well, OK, so when he when he wipes the oat milk off of my nose, I leaned in to kiss his nose. I just felt like since he licked the foam off my nose with his finger, I just thought it was only right to balance it with like a romantic like little nose pack. In the moment it felt really romantic but the way he reacted was shocked. Really? What did he do? We laughed about it, what about how silly it was. I thought I was embarrassed, but I thought we were back on track. Uh, but maybe he's still thinking about it. I hope not. I'm thinking about it.

Okay. So you think maybe it was the nose kiss that did it? Ah, that's the only thing I can think of because other than that we really vibed we really did French nose French kiss Okay, all right Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you will play a song come back and then call him and see if he'll Tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date. a second date Okay All right. We'll get your first date follow-up next I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all his wife Caroline

He texted I've ruined our lives You're going to want to divorce me Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies and quite frankly

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DNA test proves he is not the father. Now I'm taking the inheritance. Wait a minute, John, who's not the father? Well, Sam, luckily it's your not the father week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This author writes, my father-in-law is trying to steal the family fortune worth millions from my son,

even though it was promised to us. Now I find out he's trying to give it to his irresponsible son instead, but I have DNA proof that could get the money back. Hold up, so what are they gonna do to get those millions back? That's so unfair. Well, the author writes that her husband found out the truth from a DNA test they were gifted two years ago. Scandalous! But the kids kept their mom's secret that whole time.

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on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. First date follow-up. Powered by the advocates injury attorneys. Online at advocateslaw.com. Right in middle of your first day of follow-up. And if you're just joining us, Jenna is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas. So we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and

maybe get her a second date if she still wants one. But before we do that, Jenna, why don't you break down your date for us again real quick? Well, our dogs had a meet cute in the park. Uh, we hit it off. We absolutely vibed. So we went to get coffee and talked for like two hours about everything under the sun really. And he, the craziest part is that he, like I had oat milk foam on my nose

and he wiped it off with his finger and licked it. And I think I'm getting ghosted, so I'm just confused. Cause that would be like, I'm into you moment. I'm not licking foam off of my finger if I don't like you. Exactly. And you think you might be getting ghosted because at the end of the day you kissed his nose. To balance the nose action.

At the, there was one awkward moment I was trying to roll with the whole, like kissing the nose thing. And so I kissed his nose and it was awkward, but we laughed it off. We laughed it off. And so I'm hoping it's not that, but that's the only thing I can think of.

What base is nose action? Like that's funny. Nose action. What? Not a lot of dates, first dates have nose action. No, no. So that's pretty good date. All right, you ready for us to call in? Yes.

Okay, here we go. Hello? Hello? Hi, may I speak to Luca, please? This is he. Who's this? Hey, Luca. How are you? This is a radio show. It's called the Jubal show.

Hi, Luca. I'm Nina. Hi, and I'm a. And my name is Jubal. How are you? What's up? I'm all right. So that's three, you guys.

Yeah. You listen to the show ever? Yeah. Yeah. I've listened to you guys before. I mean, it's just kind of weird that you guys are calling me, huh? Sure, yeah. Well, we're calling you today because we got an email about you from somebody. Okay. A good email or like a bad email? What kind of email?

Yeah, it's a great email actually, but we do a segment called the first date follow-up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them okay so we got an email about you from somebody that you're ghosting okay you know that would be I mean is it Jenna the lavender latte girl? Yes it is Jenna. Lavender latte. Yes it is. Yeah. Can you tell us, can you tell us why you're ghosting her?

I mean she was just, she was just kind of weird. You know like I mean, I mean be unique, fine. You know but like she brought a crystal to the coffee date. Like she's like a literal amethyst and sat on the table and said, I need to charge. And she proceeded to give me like a 12 minute speech about how she and her dog are twin souls. You know, like, she asked me if I ever felt

emotionally manipulated by her coffee order. You know, like, what? Emotionally manipulated by her coffee order? What does that mean? Yeah, yeah. That was a conversation starter. It's called Deaf Luca. Luca, that's Jenna.

She's on the phone and wants to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah, great, yeah. I'm blindsided by that. What's up, Jenna, how are you? I was just being authentic, but you literally said that you wanted someone grounded in real, so I showed up real.

You asked the barista if the oak milk had been vibe checked. I guess it was a little odd. Because Mercury was acting weird. Energy matters. I mean, you also tried to sage the table. You know, like that's the little- It was Palo Santo. I was protecting our connection.

I just lightly, lightly burned it. Jenna, listen, you're super interesting. You're funny. But did you notice that I barely said two words about myself? What? No. Well, we had like a great flow. Let's see. You had a monologue,

right? I know about your dog's dreams, your third eye chakra, your plants abandonment issues. What about me? Did you even know that I'm an engineer? Oh, you're an engineer? That's cool.

So so I guess that's a no, Jenna. You didn't know. You didn't know that. No, I didn't. Yeah, that's because we never got to meet in the conversation. It was just I mean, you don't know that I moved here, where I moved from, or that I just simply don't believe in the chakras and the crystals and all of it.

You just moved here from where? I don't think that's the point, Jenna. Okay, I'm sorry for being in tune with myself. I'm not trying to knock it, all right? Like, you know, I just felt like you weren't really open to who I am, you know, you were interviewing me for a vibe check, like you weren't really open to who I am. You were interviewing me for a vibe check. You wanted to see if our vibes matched and that's it.

I thought that we clicked. I mean you're not boring, all right? I'll give you that. Well, okay, what if we try again and maybe we do something quieter like a walk with the dogs and no talking about past lives Good boundary, would you like another day with jenna will pay for it? listen Jenna, I think you're a lot of things but just maybe not my thing. Okay Like you you're cool, but uh, I don't think so

Just admit it. You bide more with my dog than me. Oh, yeah, 100 percent. Your dog is chill. Like, I love the dog. That's because he's grounded. Unlike some people. Can I can I go on a second date with just the dog?

Is that cool? I mean, no, we're inseparable. He gets separation anxiety. I couldn't just give you that. I think he was joking, but. Oh, okay. Well, then I mean, yeah, sure. Jubal's first date follow-up. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife Caroline. He texted,

I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific and quite frankly I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. DNA test proves he is not the father now I'm taking the inheritance. Wait a minute

John, who's not the father? Well Sam, luckily it's your not the father, now I'm taking the inheritance. Wait a minute John, who's not the father? Well Sam, luckily it's your Not the Father Week on the OK Storytime Podcast so we'll find out soon. This author writes, my father-in-law is trying to steal the family fortune worth millions from my son even though it was promised to us. He's trying to give it to his irresponsible son, but I have DNA proof that could get the money back. Hold up, they could lose their family and millions of dollars?

Yup. Find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. But there were some dark truths behind Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children. Nothing about that camp was right. It was really actually like a horror movie.

Enter Camp Shame, an eight-part series examining the rise and fall of Camp Shane and the culture that fueled its decades-long success. You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad-free on iHeart True Crime Plus. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today. It's your girl Tia Madison from the Outspoken Podcast Network from iHeart Podcast.

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