First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Leah & Jackson - She Grabbed His WHAT on the First Date?!

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

Leah thought her date with Jackson was flirty, fun, and full of chemistry. He was confident, gentlemanly, and exactly her type. Drinks were flowing, the vibe was playful — until one bold move changed everything. Now it’s been almost a month of being ghosted, unanswered texts, and zero explanation. When we finally get Jackson on the phone, he doesn’t hold back about what made him completely shut down after their night out. Was it just harmless flirting? Did someone cross a boundary? Or did a nickname go way too far? Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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so in a few seconds, we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date if she still wants one. But before we do that, Leah, how long has it been since you heard from Jackson? Hey, wow, it's probably been about a month. Oh, wow, okay. And you still want to get a hold of them?

Yeah, I mean, I had a lot of fun, and I really thought that I, there was like a vibe and I'm just kind of surprised that it's been maybe it's been like three weeks but yeah like almost a month and I'm just kind of I don't know still still wondering yeah so you feel like you're definitely being ghosted you just want to know why yes exactly okay have you tried to reach out to him at all have yeah I sent a few texts if you like Instagram like ha ha you know sending a heart yeah um but yeah no no real response oh no can I ask why like why why do you wait three weeks

to try to Oh, I mean, I have been contacting him without Oh, in the three weeks. Gotcha, gotcha, yeah. Yeah. There's always hope, Victoria. I know.

I, yeah, have none. Okay. Why don't you tell us about the date then, Leah? Sure. So, yeah, his name is Jackson. I really, really liked him. He was not, he was very handsome, but like put together,

disciplines, like this quiet, masculine energy, which is very much my thing. type. And he seemed very just like grounded. Like he walked outside on the sidewalk to, you know, be a gentleman and opened doors and didn't talk over me. It was just like, yeah, very did all the right things. Very attractive. Yeah. So he took me to this like casual but upscale place. We had some drinks and it's like a late dinner vibe. We had just both finished work. and it just felt like very playful and

30 and kind of effortless. It was a very fun date, which is why it's so confusing why he's ghosted. Did anything weird happen? Like, I mean, if you were to take a guess, why do you think he is ghosting you? Yeah, there was one moment that I think might be it. So while we were like laughing at a joke,

I very playfully like grabbed his butt, like smacked his butt. And to me, that's like, like, yeah, that's completely normal, flirting, light, harmless. But then after I did that, there was just a total shift that I could feel pretty much immediately. And then after that, he would not walk in front of me. He kept slowing down, insisting that I go first. Oh, so it seems like maybe, you know, the butt grab might have made him uncomfortable. So if he's not.

not willing to present you with his butt again. Right. I'm sorry. That's kind of a weird way to say it, I know, but, you know, you won't walk in front of you and show you his butt and probably. No more presentation. I mean, did you like, just like pat it, poke it or like handful? It was a grab.

Okay. I'm just curious to see like how, you know, I don't want to say the word invasive, but maybe he might have felt that it was. Interesting. A little light slap and then a grab. I don't know. I had a drink, but like... It's okay.

But to me, it was playful and fun and flirty, but I guess maybe not to him. The thing about me, I have, like, I have a dirty sense of humor. So most guys love that. And I'm used to just, like, I don't know, being the crazy fun one. So maybe he just didn't, doesn't laugh the same way as other guys, I don't know. Well, we'll see. Well, we'll play a song and then come back and call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date, okay?

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getting ghosted by a guy named Jackson, so we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date if she still wants one. But before we make our phone call, Leah, why don't you break down your date again for us real quick? Sure. So we went on a really fun date, good vibe, playful, fun, lots of laughing. And at one point, I, like, lightly slapped and grabbed his butt. And right after that, the vibe totally changed. And then, you know, I haven't heard from him since. He wouldn't present his butt in front of you again. Yes. All right, here we go. Are you ready for us to call him? Yeah.

All right. Here we go. Hello? Hi, man, I speak to Jackson, please. Speaking, who is this? Hey, Jackson, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Jackson.

I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. Wait, say, you guys have me on the radio right now, or? Yes, you are. How are you doing? I'm good. I've never been on the radio before.

What are you guys calling about? Well, I don't know if you've ever listened to the show before, but we do a segment on the show called the first date follow-up. That's where if you're getting ghosted by somebody, they can email us to call the person who's ghosting them and ask why. So we got an email about you from somebody that you're ghosted. You know who might be? Okay. I do.

I know why you guys are calling now, yeah. Uh-oh. Okay. Who are you ghosting? I know you're calling about Leah. And, yeah. I mean, what do you guys need to know? I mean, what are you looking for?

She told us about your date and said she really liked you. We're just wondering if you could tell us why you've been ghosting her for about a month now. Well, I mean, I genuinely liked Leah. I mean, I thought she was, you know, confident, intelligent. She had a lot of ambition to her. But she's just, she's just, she's very, bold to me. Very bold. Bold? Okay. How

so? That bad thing? Like, immediately bold. Okay. And what does that mean? So we were, we were laughing, having drinks, having fun, and the next thing I know, you know, she

blaps my butt and, like, kind of grabs it. And I just thought it was like, whoa, like, we're not here here yet, But then after that, it was like she kind of kept just mentioning it and like talking about my butt. And I was just like, it just like, it just like weird. How was she talking about your butt? Like she's like trying to like sit down. I have a long discussion about it or?

She was just kind of like, she was like, oh, your mushy butt. Like I felt it. Like it felt, you know, it felt, you know, like it's moving and it's nice. and I want to slap it again, and I was just like, what? Like, it was just, it was just bizarre. And then, like, the next thing I know, the rest of the dates going on, and she's like, oh, hey, mushy butt. And I'm like, what?

Like, what? Like, it was just, it was weird. And it's like, did she just keep calling you mushy butt over and over and over? What a nickname. Yeah, it was weird. She just kept calling me mushy butt. It's strange. Weird.

Strange a. Okay. All right. Well, Mushy butt. I'm sorry to let you know. Leah is actually on the other line listening and wants to talk to you. Oh. I mean, I, hello.

Hey, Leo. What's up? Hi. This is kind of awkward. I mean. Yeah. I mean, this is so ridiculous. You ghosted me over that.

Over a buck grab. It was a playful butt crab, not a felony. We were flirting. We're having fun. You're joking is aggressive. It's just, it's crap. Oh, okay. It was so crap.

You don't have a sense of humor. So, I mean, I mean, it's just you're very, I find you very low brow and just kind of crass and just, what did you, what did you grow up in a trailer park? And what? Let me tell you something, Leah. I work out a lot and my butt is not. Let me be clear on that, okay? I really did it.

A lot of schools. I do a lot of legwork. So I'm going to call your bluff there. I have a firm butt here, okay? So I don't know what like where you're getting this mushy butt show. It was just weird and gross. So had she said something else like had she grabbed your butt and been like, ooh, it feels like you could crack an acorn between there.

That is a firm booty. It would have been more okay. You know what? I think so because it was the thing. She acted, it was like she was acting like a child about it. It was just like, you know, here I am this grown man on a date with a supposed grown woman making like these like childish weird jokes about it. And it was just very weird.

It just, it was so awkward and strange. And look, let me tell you guys something. I am extremely self-aware. And I know I do not have mushy booty back here. Okay. So let me just be clear on that. And just set the record straight. Leah.

Okay, well, I felt a mushy booty. It felt like you don't work out at all. So I'm sorry for just calling it how I see it and that you don't have a sense of humor. And, yeah, I did grow up in a trailer park. And now I'm a lawyer and I make more money than you. I also think you're just delusional is what I think about you. Okay, mushy butt. Okay, here we go.

Miss trailer park turned lawyer. Here we go. At least I'm not a grown man that's upset about someone. calling them mushy butt. Like, you're so upset about it and you're just not fun. I don't have a mushy booty. I work hard on. Okay?

Mushy booty, mushy booty, mushy booty, mushy booty. All right. I do not have a mushy booty. Jackson, would you like to go with Leah again on a second day? We'll pay for it. I'll let you guys be the judge of that. I'm going to guess. Yes.

Showing how not mushy it is. Hey. All right. Well, sorry, Leah. No second day. for you and Jackson, thank you for your time. I don't want one either anymore. Guys, just so people can see that I don't have a mushy booty,

can I, can you put out my Instagram for me? No. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe.

That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Over the last couple years, didn't we learn that the folding chair was invented by black people because of what happened in Alabama? This Black History Month, the podcast, Selective Ignorance with Mandy B, unpacked black history and culture with comedy, clarity, and conversations that shake the status quo. The Crown Act in New York was signed in July of 20. 2019, and that is a bill that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on hairstyles associated with race.

To hear this and more, listen to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Bowen-Yin. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead-up to the Milan-Cortina 2020-206 winner Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Bob, I'm Matt. Hey, El-L. Hey Matt, hey Bowen. Hi, Cookie.

Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to two guys, five rings on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

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