First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Leesha & James - Is Leesha Getting Ghosted or Was She Just Misunderstood?

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

What happens when a great first date suddenly goes silent? On this episode of The Jubal Show, Lesha reaches out after being ghosted by James, a musician she met online. From tacos and karaoke to Krispy Kreme lyrics gone wrong, we uncover the real reason behind his disappearance—and see if they can get another date. Tune in for awkward honesty, heartfelt confessions, and a follow-up you won’t want to miss! Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But first, Alicia, how long has it been since you heard from James? Yeah, it's been about a week. And then how many times have you reached out to him in that time? Yeah, like, kind of a bunch. I was, you know, I was texting a bunch. You know, we had a great connection and, you know, I was trying to get together. And, you know, I texted a few times and, you know, we had a plan. He canceled.

He felt like he needed the weekend to recover. I offered to make him soup. which he declined, and I, you know, and then after that, I texted him a couple times. He was feeling in, like, nothing. So did your date happen, or this was after the date? No. Well, we had a first date. Okay, okay.

But then after that, nothing happened. Okay, well, tell us about the date. Well, we met on Hinge, first of all, and, like, we talked a little bit, and we wanted to go out because we both, like, really, like, food and travel and stuff, and he's in a band, and I used to sing in a band, so we had, like, a lot of great connections. And so we met for cocktails, and we, like, bounced around and got tacos and ended up at this, like, karaoke place, which was really fun. After karaoke, we went back to his place, and we were hanging out and, like, cuddling and stuff.

But we didn't hook up, but there was, like, a lot of, like, affection, I felt. And in the morning, we kissed and, like, we planned on seeing each other again, like, the next weekend. So that was the date. Is there anything that happened on the date that could have been awkward or something that would cause him to not want to talk to you again? So I talked this over, like, a bit, and I think there might have been, which I, like, want to apologize for. And, like, I've been feeling bad about it.

So, like, when we were, like, hanging out and cuddling, he, like, pulled out his phone to play me, like, a rough edit of his band's new song, and I was excited to hear it. I was glad he wanted to share it with me, and, you know, because I also on the music background I didn't feel like a new hold back what I thought you know so I mean I told him I was like

I think this is like a great idea for a song I said like some of the lyrics were a little cheesy and you know his voice is a little picky in certain points and like one of the lyrics in particular was like about her love being like a sugar rush eating a box of crispy cream or something okay

I like laughed at that and then I kept like asking him if I made him feel like he was eating a box of Krispy cream. And I thought it was being funny. Like, I was joking and, like, I think I may have crushed him. I don't know. Maybe I took it too far. So I couldn't even apologize.

Like, maybe he thought you were making fun of his music. Yeah. But, I mean, it sounds like you were being more playful. Yeah, no, I was just saying, like, that's how I felt. Like, that's what the intention was. Jubil, you are doing music now, too. So, like, think about this scenario. Wouldn't it be just kind of cute?

Like, you're not, are you going to be offended? No, I wouldn't be. I'm also a super harsh critic on myself. So I'd be like, you're right. The whole thing's crap. I'll throw it out. You're my Krisy. I'll start all over.

I quit at all. So I would just totally be like, yeah, thanks for the honest feedback. I suck. That would also be a major turnoff and problem also. Okay, so maybe. Maybe he was a little butt hurt. Maybe. I mean, it might be.

So I feel like, I don't know, I feel like we need to get him on the phone. Like, he needs to get a third party and to get him on the phone because he's ghosting me. So, like, and I just want to apologize. Well, we'll try to figure it out for you. We'll play a song and we'll come back and then we'll call him and see if we'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get to another date with Krispy Kreme Boy. Okay.

All right. Should we not call him Krispy Kreme Boy? No. She did and it didn't and he disappeared. All right. We'll play a song and come back and get your first day follow up next. On the latest episode of Next question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old,

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another date. But first, Lisa, why don't you catch us up on your situation? Yeah, so I went on a date with this guy James, it like went really well. We had cocktails and tacos and we had karaoke and all this stuff. And, you know, we bonded because he's in a band and I used to sing in a band. And, you know, we have a lot of common interests. And I feel like, and he hasn't texted me back in a week. So, and I feel like something might have gone wrong the night we were on the date. I feel like I might have kind of hurt his feelings, making fun of one of his lyrics,

which involves Krispy Cream, which I kept bringing up. No, I don't know. I feel like I might have upset him and I need to apologize and also he's ghosting me. So that's where we are. All right. Are you ready for us to call him? Sure. Okay, here we go. Hello? Hi, man. I speak to James, please.

Yes, speaking. James, how are you, man? My name is Jubal. I'm calling from a radio show. It's called the Jubal show. Hi, James. I'm Nina also on the show. Hi, and I'm Victoria. How are you? Oh, cool, wonderful. I'm doing good, man. I'm getting me to call some radio, but what's up?

Have you ever listened to the show before? Yeah, yeah, I have. I have. Okay. Oh, thank you. Yeah, have you ever heard a first date follow-up before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have.

Is this one of these things? First-A follow-up, you know, that's a segment where if you're ghosting somebody, they can email us and then ask us to call you and ask why you're ghosting them. Somebody emailed us about you, James. Oh boy Any idea who it would be Yeah maybe someone I met someone online

Like a little more than a week ago Is that someone's name Lisha? Yeah Yeah Lisa oh yeah Yeah Well Alicia emailed us and told us about your date She said she really liked you but she's confused Can you tell us why you're ghosting her?

I really liked her But man she's too much She texted me on Saturday to ask about, well, first of all, I got sick, right? So, like, I got sick a little bit afterwards, but not the rona or nothing, but, like, you know, she texted me on Saturday to ask me about soup. And then again, tell me good night. And then text me a list of vitamins I should be taking.

Because you were sick. Yeah, you know, it was like, it was like a trip or a door dashed GNC, you know, the whole bag full. And then, like, not soon after, asking if I missed her, this whole thing about, like, if I wanted crispy creams, like, asking if I wanted crispy creams. It's a, it's a joke about some stupid lyric I made. And, and, and, I mean, just more texts on and on and on. I'm not even giving you all. That was all in one day. That happened all in the same day? Yeah. And this is someone I had just talked to online. They came over. We cuddled. I mean, the sweet, it was great. You know, don't get me wrong. But after all this, just pile it on and just stop being so soon, I just stopped responding because, like, I needed to rest. And I wake up and it's like, I mean, I lose kind of like 12 text messages from her.

I don't respond, but I get even more the next day. Eventually, I just, I just block her because I feel like that kind of energy. I felt it gives me a lot of anxiety. Like, and I'm a go with the flow kind of guy, and when it just gets rah, rah, rah, it's like, it's, first of all, it doesn't know we feel better, but then it's like, this is someone I just met, sweet girl, I mean, she came over, it was great, the date was amazing, karaoke was fun, and, and yeah, like, do we talk like you was going to turn into something, but then the, the text, just the messaging, well, it was just, nah, nah, it was just a no-go. I mean, it sounds like she was just concerned because you were saying. Now, granted, 12 and maybe 24 text messages might be a lot in two days. But the initial reached out probably was kind of nice, though, no? I mean, I get it.

She's very sweet, but it's just someone I just started talking to online. And it just started giving me the vibe that this is the kind of person that's going to give me a whole lot of anxiety. I don't see. So I just wanted peace. Okay. Well, speaking of peace, James, I will let you know that Lisa is actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. Yeah, hi. Oh, hi, Alicia.

Do you have a problem getting close to people? Like, do you know how to ask when someone cares about you? Like, I was just trying to show you that I cared, and I'm, like, actually a good caretaker in, like, times like this. I get it, but it's just we just had one date after a little bit of online conversation. And I just feel, look, you're sweet, wonderful, but I just feel that we're nowhere close. to come over and make me soup stage of this relationship. Okay, well, you said on your hinge that you wanted to be intentional about the time we spend together and to prioritize growth, and I feel like I was doing that.

So I don't know what there is about this that you don't, you wouldn't like. Can we go further than, can we have a relationship first? Can we like have some other, there's, there's steps to this before. Okay, wait. Wait, I'm not ready to be in a relationship with you. Oh, look, that's, that's, that's, that's not what I said. Okay, that's, that's, that's not what I said. It's, um, I feel there's a little miscommunication here.

Well, I mean, I'm not, well, you just mentioned wanting to have a relationship first. Like, you talk about me texting a lot and you're already talking about a relationship. So I don't know what the problem is with my texting when you're like, I want a relationship right now. What? No. I'm not saying right now it's just that I just don't want to jump into things that just lead to anxiety and just like already we're checking each other's mental health like I'm just trying to just go with the vibe that we had that was that was real good it just felt like this was just in a different place and I was just like I don't want to grow with this you are moving way too fast James look I just I'm all for like all those texts in the soup but I just feel that there's there's just a sequence to it that just you know rocks my boat a certain way and and like I'm sorry for for miscommunicating or like you know just going outside the vibe that we had and I just feel I just feel like we went the wrong direction with that well James would you like another date with Leisha we'll pay for it James, I just so you know, I will go on another date with you,

but I just want to let you know, like, I'm not going to get together with you right now, just so you know. Yeah, so like I said, I'm not interested in rushing into getting together right now. I'm sorry about the miscommunication, but I'm willing to give this another go, just as long as we don't mention the Krispy Cremes. Okay, but we're not going to be, like, dating yet. Like, this is just a date date, not like a dating date. Look, don't worry.

I'm not trying to wipe you up just yet. Wait a minute. You want to wife me up? Hold on. Why are we jumping to marriage? I don't think James wants to marry you yet. I think you guys should just go out of one more day and see how it goes, okay? Okay.

Yeah. I'm down. All right. Joubles first date follow up. On the latest episode of next question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years, and today he even throws a few questions my way. Are you ready for another question? Go ahead. Hit me, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shut down. Listen to next question with me,

Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On an all-new episode of IHeartRadios Las Culturistas, Jennifer Lawrence is did. From her hilariously awkward run-ins with A-Lister's. I don't know what I was expecting, but he was just like, nice to meet you. To her unfiltered take on beauty treatments. I'm so upset I think the Botox before that. And a jaw-dropping reveal you won't see coming. I don't know if I can announce this, but I'm just going to.

Open your free I-Heart radio app. Search Lus Culturista and listen to the full podcast now. And she said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night. Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying, suicides that don't make sense, strange accidents, and brutal murders. In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of breaking bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people. There are people out there that absolutely know what happened. Listen to paper ghosts, the Texas teen murders, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you.

you get your podcasts. I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline is. The most Texas story ever. Listen to Business History on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. Or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood,

a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arness. On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life, how he redefined American television, and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen.

Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama on the IHard Radio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.