First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Lillian & Drew - She Might’ve Ruined the Date… with Shrimp and ChatGPT?

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Lillian thought the chemistry was real — until her dinner order and her digital sidekick may have blown it. In this hilarious and cringe-filled First Date Follow-Up, we find out why Drew vanished after what seemed like a perfect night. Did she go too far trying to impress him? Or was he never that into it to begin with? If you’ve ever relied on tech to get through a date (or accidentally poisoned the vibe), you need to hear this one. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. First date of follow-up, powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys, online at Advocateslaw.com. Lillian is on the phone today for a first date follow-up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Drew, so in a few minutes, we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and possibly get her a second date if she still wants one. But first, Lillian, how long has it been since you heard from old Drew? Since our date. I haven't heard from him since then.

Yeah. How long is that? Well, that was about five or six days ago. Yeah. So the thing is that I think I almost killed him. Not dramatically, but still there was like a shrimp element

involved. Okay. Yeah. So, okay, so this is embarrassing, but okay,

we were at this amazing Thai restaurant, right? Um, when we got there, our, like,

legs grayed under the table, and we kind of stayed touching, which was a really good sign. Like, I immediately felt like

we were biting and we had really, really good energy and, like, he was, like, totally into me.

Okay. So with a week of him over, I don't know. I just, like, was trying to be bold, and I wanted to show I'm,

like, I'm the kind of girl that can, like make a decision about her order and about her life and everything. So I ordered the pat tie with shrimp and I didn't really think anything of it. And so the waitress brings out and Drew like freezes, like full body stiffness. It was so uncomfortable. Apparently he is deathly allergic to shellfish.

And I'm just sitting there like, hey, this is so good. Like, practically slurping up shrimp juice across the table from him. What a visual. Yeah. It was so embarrassing, so cringe. And he, like, didn't tell me this until we were, like, really far into the dinner that he was allergic to shellfish. And, like, not just regularly allergic, like, definitely allergic. Like, there was no way a kiss could even happen at the end.

Oh, like, you couldn't even touch, like, one of those where if you touch your lips, he'd, you know, going to shock or something. Yeah, yeah. And, like, he was like, oh, like, I can't kiss you. And not, like, in a flirty way. And, like, if we accidentally graze our lips together, he will need, like, his epipin kind of way. Oh, wow. Why didn't he tell you this?

Like, that sounds so silly. I mean, I just wish he would have told me earlier. Like, I definitely would have ordered something different. I could have gone with, like, chicken or tofu even, like, something different. But he didn't really let me know. So I'm just panicking a little bit. So is that why you think that he's ghosting you? Or did something else happen?

I mean, what else could it be? I feel like we had such a good time. We really hit it off. I practically turned myself into a biohazard for him. So, I mean, I, you know, there was no way it was going to work out. I did text him, like, immediately afterwards. And I said, like, I wish you would have told me sooner. Like, again, like, I would have had me to go on with chicken or tofu.

And so I text him right then after. the date, and then it's just been radio silence ever since. Okay. Yeah. Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you then. Okay. I will say this morning, I did send him a text, which is, again, so cringe, but in case he brings it up, like, I sent him a text.

I was like, okay, I'm going to be funny about this. Like, so I sent him, like, a picture, like a selfie. And I had, like, kind of hot and I, like, lost my lips up. And I was saying, like, look, no shrimp, like, trying to be. funny about it and it's still nothing. So I just yeah. Really, really, really, really embarrassing and Chris.

When you put yourself out there looking hot and then you still get left on red, that's infuriating. Yeah, but I'm also mostly embarrassed. We'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song, come back and then call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date, okay? Okay, great.

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I like it that way. Lillian is on the phone today. And she's getting ghosted by a guy named Drew, so we're about to call him and see if I'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But first, Lillian, why don't you break down your situation for us again real quick? Yeah. Okay, so I went on a day with Drew, like we were totally biving,

and I ordered shrimp pads high for dinner. and as I'm like deep into our meal I found out he's like definitely allergic to shellfish so I essentially like made myself a human biohazard and at the end of the night he was like I like can't kiss you won't kiss you like I will need my epipen and I was so embarrassed and I like text him afterwards and everything and I just have not heard anything from him and so I feel like that's got to be why I'm getting ghosted but like we were viving before that all right you ready for us to call? Oh, okay, go ahead. Okay, here we go. Okay, here we go. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Drew, please? Yeah, this is Drew.

Hey, Drew, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Drew, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. Man, I'm Jubal. Have you ever heard of the show before? Yeah, yeah, on the radio.

Yeah, cool. What's going on? Well, we're calling you today because we got an email about you. Oh, what was it about? Well, it was about what a stunning lad you are. Are you a stunning lad? Do you consider yourself a stunning and a lad? That's true.

I use both of those words. We do a segment on the show called The First Date Follow-up. That's where if you're going out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting. We got an email about you from someone that you're ghosting. Do you know who that would be? Okay. This is about Lillian, isn't it?

Are you ghosting, Lillian? I mean, yes. Yeah, I am. It is about Lillian. Lillian emailed us and told us about your date, and she's confused. She wants to know why you're not calling her back. Do you mind telling us?

Yeah, I mean, well, I ghosted her because she literally outsourced the entire date to chat GBT. What does that mean? I mean, like any single. question, what are we going to eat, any conversation topics, literally any single thing that she could have possibly had a human moment with me with, she had to refer to Chad GBT first. Did she tell you she was doing that or she just was like, hold on a second. Yeah, no, I'm watching a real time. Like, I couldn't believe it myself. So she was literally hop on chat GBT

while you're on the date and ask it stuff to do? Yeah, it was like, it was like she had the phone and would talk into it before talking to me and I'm kind of just standing at her dumbfounded like, is this actually happening right now? Yeah. Wait, Drew. Okay, I'm here. Sorry.

I'm here. Drew, Lillian is on the phone and wants to talk to you. Drew, that doesn't even make sense. First of all, I'm so glad you're alive. Like, thanks for messaging me back. Like, I felt super awful because I didn't know about the allergy and I would have never ordered shrimp if I knew. I would have just gone, like, vegan or something

or eating a frickin napkin. So I'm just, like, kind of surprised now by what you're saying. Well, first of all, yeah, I am alive, and I wasn't offended. You know, if you're hungry and when you trip, like, I don't know what I'm fine with that, you know. But the Chad GBT stuff was truly way too much. I mean, I never experienced someone having to have, like, an assistant interaction. with another human being before. It was insane.

You said, I said to you like, this one's a good one from ChatsyBT, and it was a great question, and you agreed. Like, it was a really good question. It was, if you could be the AI assistant to any villain in history, who would it be? And you really liked that one. So now I feel like you're kind of turning that on me. Well, I mean, yes, it was a good question, but that wasn't your question. You asked AI.

Like, I can't even, I can't even believe that that is something that you would even do. Like, you need permission to blink or something. Like, you're asking you're having a human moment. Well, I thought I was being thoughtful, and I like using it. First of all, you work in AI. I thought that was thoughtful about what you do, and that was showing you that I, like, care about things. And I also just really like CAT UPT, like, why would we not use it to prompt it? It's like having a really smart friend who doesn't interrupt you and helps you.

Yeah, I mean, I do work in AI, but I also like the women that I'm going on dates with to have their own thoughts, you know? Wow. Condescending much, Drew? That's really condescending. I do have my own thoughts. I just happen to cross-check them with AI sometimes. It's called Critical Thinking. You asked it if I look more like a Drew or a Trevor.

Did you really? What did it say? It was half a joke. Oh, my gosh. It was no joke. You know what? You never even got to know me. You never bothered really to get to know me.

So you went on to ask ChatTP to recommend a shampoo that was good for men with thick hair but may start thinning. Like, why don't, why did you think that was a good idea? Drew, I was really a taxi, and I. Drew, you asked chat GBT about your possibly thinning hair at some point during the date? I mean, listen, I had to kind of, like, if all we're doing is talking through Chad GBT, I try to throw a bone. But, you know, I mean, men's hair loss is a big thing. I recognize that's something that's happening to me, you know? Being vulnerable a little bit.

So we're both you guys just playing with chat GPT the whole time? I'm just trying to figure out, are you passing the phone back and forth? No, we were talking and asking it funny questions and things like that. Again, I thought we were connecting over something that we mutually had in common. You sure is heck weren't asking me any of those questions. Listen, Drew, I was really attracted to you, and I wanted to be cute and funny, and I wanted to add value to the date. Ultimately, if you give me another chance, I will already know what questions I'm going to ask you

and not bring out that at all. I also won't order any shrimp, okay? Drew, do you want to go out with Lillian again? We'll pay for it. no I don't think so how do I know she's going to use

she probably used the chat GPT right before going out on the day like I just listen William you're

truly beautiful I just can't be with somebody who can't think for themselves I'm so sorry that's really fine for the record

Drew chat CBT said you weren't emotionally available anyways what what Juble's first date, follow-up.

Hey, everyone, it's me, Katie Couric. Did you know that I recently joined Substack? Very exciting. It's where I'll be sharing my unfiltered conversations with the people everyone's talking about. I'll also tell you what I'm reading, what I'm watching, what's making me crazy, and what's giving me hope.

If you like deep dives, hot takes, and real talk, you're in the right place. Search Katie Couric on Substack and hit subscribe. I'll be there reporting live, most likely, in my pajamas. See you there. I'm Noah and I'm 13 and I started this podcast because honestly adults don't ask the right questions. Now You Know with Noah DeBarroso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the rest of you.

It's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to payment, but I'm here to make sense of it. Listen to Now You Know with Noah DeBarroso on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Summer's here, and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle. On Good Mom's Bad Choices,

we're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest, and pleasure. Take the kids to camp. You know what? It was expensive. But I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her, make core memories.

I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything. To hear this and more, Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Who cares about truth when the lives more entertaining? Welcome home. I'm Angela Ryd, co-host of the Native Lamb Pod with Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross, and we want you all to survive and thrive in this political moment. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country. I'm terrified that in our rest, we're going to miss the moment.

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