First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Mari & Evan: She Thought He Ghosted… Then the Call Took a Sharp Turn

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

On this episode of First Date Follow Up, powered by Advocates Injury Attorneys, Mari thought she was living every dater’s nightmare—four days of silence after what felt like a perfect first date. Romantic vibes, a goodbye kiss, and plans that seemed obvious… until Evan disappeared.But when we finally get him on the phone, the reason behind the “ghosting” isn’t what anyone expected—and the conversation spirals into one of the most uncomfortable, boundary-blurring moments we’ve ever had on the show. 😬 Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. First Date Follow-up, powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys, It's online at advocateslaw.com. Mari is on the phone today for a first day follow-up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Evan. So in a few minutes, we're going to call him

and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But before we do that, Marie, tell us about your date with Evan. How long has it been since you talked to him? It's been four days. Four days, and you're saying you're getting ghosted already? Yeah, are you sure? I feel like if you don't follow up the day after,

a date, they're never going to text you. Oh. I mean, usually a good date, you do get the follow-up, but. Yeah. But. Yeah. It's crazy. But I will say, like, what if he's just busy or, like, things just got to

look crazy? I don't know. I think four days is a little bit too long to leave someone hanging. I did follow up with him after, so to not get a response to him. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

So tell us about the date. It was amazing. Like, honestly, too good to be true for. first date maybe. We went to this cozy little candlelit restaurant. It was so cute. One of those cozy booths where you, there's no way to not touch. So our knees are touching.

We're drinking wine. We're sharing apps. I think we both. I know. It felt so romantic. It's calm, which I think is odd for a first date. You don't always feel so stupt. You feel nervous, but there was just this like calmness about the whole night.

No like worry about eye contact. And we just felt so connected. It felt safe, honestly. And yeah, we're sharing food. And I think we both kind of acknowledge that this could be something. We kiss at the end of the night. and it was just sweet. It wasn't rush or forced, no awkward, like, will they, won't they?

It just, it all sells. Right. What could the problem be then? I mean, that does sound great. And especially if you guys are feeling safe and comfortable, that's not easy to come by. So what could have happened? The only thing that I can think of,

and I think that this would be a silly reason not to text. me back, but he said that he was going to be snowboarding the next day, so he needed to leave at 11. That's dope. We were having so much fun, and at 11, I don't know, I was just feeling kind of silly, so I kind of put my hands on my head from my head, I'm like, if you go home right now, you're never going to see me again. And it works.

Like, he stayed for like a bit longer. she ended up leaving at midnight. So I'm like, not too late. But he kissed me goodbye and he said that he would call. And the next day, I texted him and I was just like, I can't wait to hear about all the events. Like, have fun snowboarding. And that was four days ago.

And I got a real bad. Okay. Maybe he's like on a boys trip. Like a boys trip snowboarding adventure. But did he tell you he was going on a boy's trip? Or was it just like a day? Well, I assumed it was for the weekend. He has a full-time job.

So I was three out of the four days. Okay. All right. Okay. Mari is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Evan. So we're about to call him, Ansi Fettles, why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But before we do that, Mari, why don't you break down your date with Evan again for us real quick? So I went on the first date with Evan.

It was really calm, quiet, romantic, intimate, so sweet. we kissed I asked him to stay out past his bedtime and now he hasn't called me back Oh, bad influence Well, are you ready for us to call him And see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you? Yeah

All right, here we go Hi, man, speak to Evan, please Uh, this is Evan, who is this? Hey, Evan, how are you? This is a radio show It's called The Jubal Show Hi, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name is Jubal, what's up? Is it a radio show?

No way. Yeah. Have you ever listened to the Jubal show before? I have actually, yeah. Okay. You ever streamed it? Like on your phone or anything? Because you can stream it too.

Side note. Yeah, I know. He's like, is that why you called? Tell me to stream your show? No, that's not why I'm calling. I'm calling today because we do a second one on the show called the first date follow-up where if you go out on a date with somebody and they end up ghosting you, they can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them and we got an email about you

Evan you really okay um any idea who would email us asking us to call you to find out why you're ghosting them i mean i have an idea but i want to hear what you got to say okay her name is marie like okay okay and you went out on a date was there about four days ago i did yeah but um i'm not This is funny. I'm not ghosting anybody. I dislocated my shoulder snowboarding recently. Oh, no. Okay.

So you're not ghosting, Mark? Yeah. I mean, no, I dissipated my shoulder and wife got pretty bad. I've been healing, but she emailed you guys saying I've been ghosting her for four days. Yeah. So you've just been healing up because you hurt your shoulder? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was a pretty bad accident.

I'm sorry about your accident, but she did text you. Yeah, she did, but I've been healing from an injury for four days. Like, I don't know. I haven't even responded to my mom, you know. Okay. All right. Well, did you like her? Well, can you handle that right now?

You've been healing for four days. Well, yeah, I like her, but this is kind of feeling weird. Feeling like a little ganged up on. Okay. This is, you know, I don't think four days is a long time. Well, if you're feeling ganged up on right now, Evan, Marry is on the phone and wants to talk to you. She's here? Yep.

And she wants to talk to you. Hi, Evan. Hey, what's up? Thanks. I'm sorry to hear about your snowboarding injury, but you ignored my text. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm injured, though, and I've been dealing with a lot. Oh, poor baby.

Do you need some help? Could I come over maybe? What? No, no, I'm not, what? No, this, what? No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I appreciate your concern and why you take care of me, but I'm, I'm, I'm really best when I heal on my own by myself, I'm, keep and quiet. I mean, it's not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not trying to be funny. Like, like, it's, yeah, that's just who I am.

Okay, you guys are laughing at me, too. Well, I mean, it's just, you know, you sound like you're very awkward about this situation. You don't want her to come over and help you? No, would you want someone to come over after a first date while you're, like, in the worst situation in noise? Like, I don't look good. I probably haven't showered. Not going to lie. Evan, if you're hurting, I want to be there to help you.

That's what happens in a relationship. I can, I don't care. A relationship. Oh, we're not. Hey, you're really sweet, but we're not in a relationship. And I feel weird talking about this on the radio, from strangers. I know that, but that's where we're heading, isn't it?

Like, you could have sent me another text, and I could have probably gotten, like, you know, through, like, the cloudiness of being on meds, probably been, like, up front and been like, hey, maybe in a couple weeks. Like, honestly, I don't think I'm ready to go on a date for a really long time. I'm not in a good place right now. Like, I'm in pain.

I'm on meds. I'm not myself. Don't take it personally. But maybe not do this to the next person. I think you need to maybe wait. I can just come over. Like, I don't need a lot. No.

No, thank you. I make a really good chicken noodle soup. And my dad was in an accident when I was a kid. I know how to take care of people. Uh-huh. You said that you didn't text your mom back. I can text her for you. I can handle all that for you.

Just give me your mom's number. Oh, no. Boundaries. Yeah, just, is this? Do you being serious? Are you just, like, doing this for show at this point? I'm being serious. I love you and you're hurt.

I want to feed it. Hey, uh, okay. Evan, I got to go. I'm sorry, I don't have time for this. Mari. Yeah, goodbye. Oh, no. Yeah, he's gone.

He hung up, Mari. Mari Sorry, that's just how he is, guys. But you heard we'll go out in a couple of weeks And it'll be good. Thank you so much for getting us back in contact. Do you have a good friend you can call? I think it's a time to have a conversation with somebody

That can just, you know, really flesh this out with you. Have an honest conversation. What do you mean? Yeah. Day follow-up. Hey, it's Joel and Matt from How to Money. If your New Year's resolution is to finally get your finances in shape, we've got your back. Prices, they're still high, and the economy is all over the place.

But 2026 is the year for you to get intentional and make real progress. That's right. Yeah, each week we break down what's happening with your money, the most important issues to focus on, and the small moves that make a big difference. Kick off the year with confidence. Listen to How to Money on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you,

what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP,

a.k.a. Neurolinguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to mind games on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Dr. Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom podcast. Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken? But what if the real work isn't physical at all? I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught. how to name. Part of the way through the Valley of Despair is realizing this has happened, and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward. Our two-part conversation is available now. Listen to the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. A new year doesn't ask us to become someone new. It invites us back home to ourselves.

I'm Mike Delarocha, a host of sacred lessons, a space for men to pause, reflect, and heal. This year, we're talking honestly about mental health. relationships and the patterns we're ready to release. If you're looking for clarity, connection, and healthier ways to show up in your life, Sacred Lessons is here for you. Listen to Sacred Lessons with Mike Delaroach on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.

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