First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Meg & James - Dog Person Dealbreaker?

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

Meg went on a date with a guy who lives in her building. Everything seemed perfect—until he completely ghosted her. Now she's stuck running into him in the elevator, and things are getting awkward. What went wrong? We called him to find out... and his reason might surprise you.   Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. First date of follow-up. Powered injury attorneys online at advocateslaw.com. Meg is on the phone today for a first date follow up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James. So in a few minutes we're going to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first Meg, how long has it been since you heard from James? Here's the deal. We live in the same building. So I actually saw him. Yeah, I know.

So I see him in the elevator all the time. So I actually saw him like this morning and it's a little bit awkward just because of all of this. So, but I haven't heard like he hasn't kind of followed up by a text or phone, which is what I was kind of waiting for. You know what I mean? Yeah. So did you reach out to him other than seeing him in the elevator?

No. Well, here's the, so at the end of our date, which went really well, by the way. So that's, yeah. So I, I was sort of expecting a call. Um, and then this morning when I saw him, I just kind of was like, I have to say something cause I haven't heard from them. So I just said like, Hey, you know, do you want to go for dinner sometime? And he basically said, I'll get back to you, which I feel like is a bad sign. Yeah. Probably not the best. Yeah, exactly.

But it was so great. Like we, uh, went to this trivia night that he had been telling me about because, you know, I had seen him in the elevator. We'd make small chat all the time. I actually have a tiny confession that I would kind of plan to be in the elevator when he was there. OK. But in there, I was like, yeah, OK. I was like, oh, if I keep running into this guy.

So, yeah, so I like running into him and we were chatting and he had told me with this trivia night. And then finally he asked me out, which I was really psyched about. And we just like had this great night. We even went back to his place afterwards and we had a great nightcap. And I don't want to be not PG 13, but we had a pretty great kiss at the end of it. So. So anyway, I that's why I was totally expecting to hear from them.

So I don't know. I don't know. Well, did something happen? Did anything actually go down on the date that may have made it a little bit awkward or that you felt like was a turning point? Well, obviously I have been analyzing this for days because it's all I can think of. So the only thing, so I started to go, okay, maybe it was this because like my sister, she's going through a bit of a bad kind of breakup right now.

She's a single mom, so she's having a hard time. She did call me a couple of times. Oh, it might've been like three or four times when we were on the date. And I did answer because I just knew, you know, and at the time I wasn't thinking, I was like, oh, I've got to answer it's my sister, you know, and at the time I wasn't thinking, I was like, oh, I've got to answer. It's my sister. You know, she needs me, but I'm kind of wondering did that kill the vibe and does he think I'm rude, you know, for answering the phone so much? And then I'm like, if he did that to me, yeah, would I be a little pissed? So I'm

wondering if that's it. Did he say anything about it or did he seem annoyed by that? Okay. Full disclosure. One of them may have come when we were kind of making out a little bit. So I guess he seemed a little annoyed when that got cut off, but he didn't say anything. It was just kind of, I kind of feel like I guess, yeah, that was kind of the end of the night sort of thing. So, but he didn't say anything about it.

Like he just was like, okay, you know, good night. Did he know who you were talking to? Like did he know that was your sister that was calling? I mean, I told him it was, but now I'm thinking like, did he believe me? Does he think that, you know, I was, you know, scurrying away to talk to some other guy? Like, does he think I'm in a relationship or something? Like now I'm not sure because that's what I told him, but I don't know.

Would I be suspicious? Probably, to be honest. So what was the last thing you texted him? The last thing. Oh, the last. So the last thing I texted him was had a great time. You know, thanks. Thanks for the thanks for the night. Cause of course he paid for dinner and you know, everything. So I said, thank you. I hope to see you again.

And then that was after I left and then I didn't hear anything back from that. And then saw him in the elevator this morning. So that's where we're at. That's awkward. That's an awkward elevator ride. All right. We'll see if we can figure it out for you. Then we'll play a song, come back and then call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date. OK, OK. All right. Thanks, guys.

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But it's been like oh my god, it's been weeks now he has not responded to my last text and I've recently seen him in the elevator and basically said, hey, do you wanna go for dinner sometime? And he basically said, I'll get back to you, which doesn't feel positive. Yeah. All right, and the reason you think you might be getting ghosted

is because you kept answering your phone, right? I did. My sister kept calling during the date, and she's having a tough time, so I did keep answering my phone. So yeah, to be honest. So yeah. All right. Well, are you ready for us to call him and see if I tell us why? Oh god Yeah, I think I'm ready. I'm nervous, but I'm ready Here we go

Hello, I'm asking to James, how you doing, man? My name is Jubal. I'm calling from a radio show. It's called the Jubal show. Hi, James. The show's here too. I'm Nina. Hi, and I'm Victoria. How are you?

Hey, I'm good. What's up? Not much. Have you heard the show before ever? Is this uh... Have you got something to do with like first dates or something? Yes, actually it does. I thought you were listening. Yeah, we do a segment on the show. It's called the first date follow-up.

It's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, they can email us to get you on the phone and ask why. So we got an email about you from somebody. That's why we're calling Yes, we got an email about you Somebody yeah, you have any idea who? Yeah, honestly, I'm pretty sure I'm talking you're talking about. Yeah. Okay, who do you think it is? Is it Meg? Yes, it is Meg. She also told us she saw you this morning in the elevator. That's awkward.

Yeah, yeah, yep, we did. We're in each other in the elevator. We live in the same building, so kind of hard not to sometimes. Can you tell us why you're ghosting her? She said she really liked you a lot. She's confused Yeah, all right. Here's a story. So I mean, yeah, honestly, we did have a great day. I had a good time And you know, she's super nice beautiful. I think we did have some chemistry But the real deal breaker for me and this might sound like a small thing, but it's big to me.

Uh, she let it slip, but she doesn't like dogs. And that is a huge deal breaker for me. Do you have a dog? No, I don't have a dog right now. We're not allowed to have dogs in our buildings, but, um, I I'm planning on buying a house someday and I definitely am getting a dog when I have my house. I grew up a dog. I love dogs. I it's just something I can't live without having in my life.

Oh, I wonder what she would say, though, if you were like, I need to have dogs. But what did she say? Like she said, like she absolutely hated dogs. She just didn't like them. She's allergic to them. Well, she was complaining about one of her friends' dogs and just kind of complaining about the smell and the mess that it makes all the time and just kind of like was like, you know, complaining about this one dog, but then like let it get to the point of like, and that's because of that. I don't like dogs at all. And that for me was like, you're going to judge all dogs based off this one dog. That is not for me. That's just not for me, man. So that's it. Just that she doesn't like dogs.

That is also. Yeah, it's a huge deal breaker for me. Like you like, sure, you could you could tolerate dogs, but I got to have a dog and I can't foresee myself having a future with somebody who just can't live with a dog in their life. I mean, everybody has got their thing. I've never met anybody that doesn't like dogs. Yeah, I haven't either. But also, I would do try to say like devil's advocate.

Like it could be maybe her friend just really is bad. Take like not great at taking care of her dog. Is that like bad to say? I can see that. But you know, then you then you like you got to feel some pity for that dog and not just complain about it. You talk to your friend, right? It was just a total deal breaker for me.

The way you had to hear it. I don't know. It's tough to say the things that she was saying because it was it was a gut punch to talk to your friend, right? It was just a total deal breaker for me. The way you had to hear it, I don't know. It's tough to say the things that she was saying because it was a gut punch to me. Maybe we should just ask her because she is on the phone listening and wants to talk to you.

Yeah, hi James. Hey, yeah, hey. I forgot about this part. James, I can't believe this. Like, my God, if I had like a hundred guesses, I would never guess this is why you're ghosting me. Listen, it's just like, this is why I didn't want to bring it up.

It feels like a little thing to a lot of people, but it's a big thing to me. It's a big part of my life. And you know, I really did feel like we had some chemistry and you know, and, and, but, but just, it's a hard no for me. That is a real deal breaker. But oh my God, we did. I mean, listen, I agree. I think we had like amazing chemistry, including on that night,

like the buildup to our first date, all that stuff. And I guess I'm just like, okay, what if it was like, I'm okay. I could learn to be okay around dogs. Like I just wouldn't like have them. If I was around a dog, I could be okay with dogs. Not that I think they're evil. I just don't like them. They're like, I do think they're messy and there's always dog hair everywhere and like whatever,

but I mean, does that change? This is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. This is a no for me. Absolutely not. Like you can't even get through a sentence without saying something negative. I mean, I guess that like it could be worse. I just feel like there's so many worse things.

Like, it's not like I'm like a murderer or like a stalker. And like, and I would like those are real reasons to not be with somebody. I just feel like, I don't know. Someone who doesn't like dogs could be a murderer. Okay. So I just feel like this is such, I mean, is that a thing like where you like, don't trust people who don't like people say that.

And I'm like, what does that even mean? Like, you don't trust people who don't like dogs, like, or you don't trust people who don't like dogs. That is a hard line. Absolutely. Don't try.

You know, I was thinking it might've been fun for a one night stand, which is why I let it get as far as it did, but I'm kind of done at this point. I, it's a hard note for me. Wow. Okay. And now knowing that you were just like hanging on for one night stand, start to make it feel like a no for me too. So that was a little, a little much to hear. So what do I, and now it, this is great. We live in like,

what am I supposed to do when I see you in the elevator? We can ignore all of this and. Well, I don't know. You know what time I ride the elevator every day, and maybe you can avoid getting in the elevator with me. James, would you like to go on another day with Meg? We'll pay for it. No, thank you. Okay. I mean, I thought, yeah, if, I mean, we could get together and talk it out in person and not like this.

No, thanks. I do not want to be murdered. All right. Well, I guess you got your answer, Meg and James. Thanks. Thank you for telling us. Yeah. Thanks. I really do like the show. Thanks. Thank you. Jubals first date follow-up. Join iHeartRadio and Sarah Spain in celebrating the one year anniversary of iHeart Women's Sports.

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The Girlfriends, Jailhouse Lawyer. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI-fueled nightmare. Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked. Well well not me, but me with someone else's body parts. This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts, Bloomberg,

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