First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Ray & Lucas - She Thought He Was the Perfect Date… Until One Word Slipped Out 😳

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Ray thought she had just experienced the perfect first date—a romantic rooftop dinner, a walk through the city, and even a sweet goodnight kiss. But after an amazing night together, Lucas suddenly disappeared… and she has no idea why. 🤯 When Ray reaches out to The Jubal Show’s First Date Follow Up, the team calls Lucas to find out what really happened. At first, it sounds like bad timing and complicated relationships—but then Lucas accidentally lets something slip that changes everything. Is there more to Lucas’ situation than Ray realized? And will she still want a second date after hearing the truth? Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys. Online at Advocateslaw.com. Ray is on the phone today for a first date follow-up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas. So in a few minutes we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But first, Ray, how long has it been since you heard from Lucas? It's been two weeks now. and it's been radio silence. Oh, that's a little while.

Yeah. How did you guys leave it at the end of the date? You know, honestly, I thought everything was fine. It was one of the most nourishing dates I've had in a very long time. Nourishing. Nourishing. Oh. Fulfilling, satisfying, validating.

I thought it was a perfect date. But so far right now, I've sexed him three times and absolutely nothing. So I don't know what went wrong. Dang, I don't know. Okay, well, why don't you tell us about the date? He took me to a rooftop dinner, super romantic. Oh, nice. He split a dessert with me.

It was like Disney movie worthy. Held my hand across the table. And after dinner, he walked around with me downtown. And he even made the first kiss. Oh, okay. I felt like it was serious. Like, it wasn't like an accidental kiss. It was completely intentional.

That's good. I don't know. I've never had an accidental kiss on a date, but anyway. Oh, I have. It is awkward. Okay. It is so awkward. Yes.

You know, one person goes in for the seat, the other one goes in for like side lip. No, never mind. I have had those. It is very awkward. Yeah. He just got a visual. I wasn't sure what the picture with that simple kiss, but that makes sense. Oh, really cute, you know.

More happened, but not everything happened. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Like I said it. So, you know, he came back to my place. We did not hook up, but we did make out. It was really romantic.

You know, we stayed up talking late. He even stayed over. Oh. And like I said, we didn't hook up, but it was very innocent overall. Do you all just, like, slept? We literally just, you know, made out and talked. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And the next morning, he even kissed me on the forehead. So this is really nice. Wow. That's weird. Why would you go somebody after all of that? It sounds like he really liked you to go back to your place. I mean, unless he was trying to get it and it didn't happen, did it feel like he was trying to get more out of you?

No, honestly, I think I might. I've been analyzing it a lot. I think if anything, I think he was just a little freaked out by this little habit that I have. Okay. Yeah. I think. I'm not sure. But I have this thing where I pull up my phone and I write down little moments that make me happy.

Oh. Okay. Yeah. So like, let's see. It's like I hear a good quote. I'll save it. If something feels romantic, I'll put it in my notes. You know, if a moment feels meaningful, I'll document it so that I can journal about it later.

Okay. It's not weird. Why would that be a problem? Yeah. Um, well, I did it at dinner. Um, I paused like mid-conversation and I typed soft group top lighting. The city humming. This feels like the beginning of something.

Okay. Did he know that you, that's what you wrote? Yeah. Okay. So he laughed. Uh-huh. And he said, are, are you like live blogging me or something? Oh, okay.

So he was maybe thinking it was. weird. Maybe. Yeah. Okay. So maybe that's not the issue. Because if he's still like hanging out, like. Right.

Did you tell him that it was not blogging? It's just your notes? Of course. Yeah. Like, you know, later when he saw me writing, you know, he said in a joking way, but like maybe he wasn't joking. He said, please don't include me in your memoir. I want our magic to stay in mystery.

I mean, I don't know he's cute, but he brought it up again. Yeah, that's like mixed back. But he's ghosted you ever since. Yes. Okay. Ray is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas. So we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But before we do that, Ray, why don't you break down your date with Lucas again for us real quick?

Yeah, so I had an amazing date with Lucas. You know, he took me to a rooftop bar. We had dessert, held my hand, the works, walked around. downtown. He gave me a kiss. He ended up spending the night at my place. Um, and I'm not sure exactly what happened, but he ghosted me now for what, like three weeks. And, or two weeks. Yeah, it's been two weeks. Um, I've texted him three times. Nothing. Um, I think maybe he's like a little weirded out because I like to journal in my phone, like as things are happening. And I did that a few times during our date because I wanted to remember these sweet moments.

Aw. And you think that might be why he's ghosting you? I do think so because I can't think of any other reason. Okay. Well, are you ready for us to call him? Yeah. Okay. Here we go.

Hi, man. Speak to Lucas, please. Yeah, who's calling? Hey, Lucas, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Lucas. I'm Nina.

Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. What? Why am I? getting a call from a radio show. That's a good question. Have you ever listened to the Jubal show before, Lucas? Yeah, I mean, I've heard of it.

I've definitely heard it before. Cool. Well, we do a segment on the show that's called The First Date Follow-up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you ghost them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting. And we got an email about you from somebody. Yeah, okay. And her name is Ray.

Yep, that's what I figured Yeah, so This is all her doing, yes It is her doing, okay Whoa Yeah, we talked to her about your date She said it sounded I mean it sounded fantastic

Would you mind telling us why you're ghosting her I mean, yeah The date was fine and like I guess, I don't know Like we're doing this on the radio I don't know if I really feel comfortable with that You know you said it's her doing And anybody who does these

We tell them that you have to be prepared to hear or whatever. So she, she knows that it's a potential you could say something that she's not going to like. I mean, I think, um, there's just like some stuff going on at work.

There's a, like there's another girl at work that, uh, she's actually like my ex that I dated for four years. So, okay. So you work with your ex? Yeah.

We all work together. And, um, Ray, too? Aaron, yeah. So like, we broke up three months ago. We still share a dog. And like, I guess what I didn't mention is that we also like still live together. Oh, so you still live with your ex, who you also work with. Yeah, it's only been three months. So it's like not, you know, I just haven't had. It's not, it's obviously not permanent. It's just that like I said, we were together for four years. We share a dog. So I stayed at Ray's place. When I got, I just told Aaron, I was like, I'm not going to. be home tonight. I'm going to like work late and then probably crash at a buddies and she like just to put it mildly she lost her mind. She confronted me. She was like yeah she was like if you're emotionally moving on this fast it's only been three months we have a dog we live together she was like then you need to move out now and she was like no more situation ship whatever we're calling this and I just

kind of like an addict, you know? And I realized I just hadn't actually ended it with my ex. So I just, you know, I didn't want to bring Ray into that. I didn't want to bring her into it. Okay. But you did already. I was not ending with your ex though. Lucas, I do have to let you know that Ray is actually on the phone and wants to talk to you.

Yeah. What? I thought it was an email. Well, it started that way. Yeah. I am shocked. Absolutely. stunned. You could have told me it was about her. And, you know, I wondered, and we had talked about it

because you did confide in me so many times about things. But you said that it was casual with her. You never mentioned anything about having a relationship with her ever. But why didn't she just telling me something? I just figured if there was anything, you would eventually tell me and that you would pick her. May the best woman went kind of thing. No, it wasn't about, it was not about like a choosing. It was just like where the, what the timing of it was, you know? Like I know we had a connection and, and I just was like, it's she's, now she's my ex. Now I can sort of pursue this.

If we had been able to go out again, I wasn't trying to hurt you. I wasn't trying to lie to you. I just was like, this part of it doesn't bear that like level of explanation yet. We were just like going on first date. What are you talking about? You literally spent the night at my place and then you went home to her. Well, obviously, you know, it's not just the kind of thing where you can be like, oh, we're breaking up. Okay, I'll be out in an hour.

Like your life is there. So it takes a little time. Like I said, it's in process. And once the divorce is final, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm ready to move on fully. What? You're actually married. You're married. What do you mean?

What did you, what? You just said, divorce. course. Oh, I did. Wow. Okay, well, it seems like you have a lot to figure out, Lucas. You do. But I do have to ask because it is a first date follow-up.

Lukis, would you like another date with Ray? We'll pay for it. I mean, I would want to go out again. Oh, what? I want to go out again. I'm interested in her. I had a good time. I just need time to sort things out so I can focus on her, which is what I would plan to do.

Well, I guess we should be asking Ray. Do you even want to go out with this guy again? you know, fine, but only if you move out. What? You can tell me that it's over with Aaron. You do want to go out with him again? I need him to promise me that it's actually over with her and that he's cleared his drawer from her bathroom.

Okay. And he's moved out and then we can go on a date. Well, congratulations, Ray. It looks like you're going to go on a second date with Lucas as soon as he figures out. It's divorced. It's the worst. We just found out. Oh, no.

Congratulations. Great. You can start to document the beginning of our fairy tale, huh? Okay. Jubil's first date follow-up. Next Monday, our 2026 I-Hard podcast awards are happening live at South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative,

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