First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Ryan & Lana - Abstinence

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone. It's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Jon Stewart is back at The Daily Show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports, and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer.
Starting point is 00:01:22 If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money Podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping markets and the economy are often hiding behind a blur of numbers.
Starting point is 00:02:01 So that's why we created The Big Take from Bloomberg Podcasts, to give you the context you need to make sense of it all. Every day in just 15 minutes, we dive into one global business story that matters. You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. People, my people, what's up? This is Questlove. Man, I cannot believe we're already wrapping up another season of Questlove Supreme.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Man, we've got some amazing guests lined up to close out the season. But, you know, I don't want any of you guys to miss all the incredible conversations we've had so far. I mean, we talked to A. Marie, Johnny Marr, E., Jonathan Schechter, Billy Porter, and so many more. Look, if you haven't heard these episodes yet, hey, now's your chance.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You gotta check them out. Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First date follow-up. Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys. Online at advocateslaw.com. Ryan is on the phone today for our first date follow-up.
Starting point is 00:03:20 He's getting ghosted by a woman named Lena. And in a few minutes, we're going to call her, see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date but first ryan how long has it been since you heard from her um you know it's been like a couple weeks that's definitely a ghosting yeah so how many times have you reached out to her in that time you know just a few times i don't like to like text too much you know what i mean like you like i think three times i text her and i'm like yeah that's i'm not doing any more than that so what do you let's go back to the date then like how did you guys meet what happened on the date so we met on hinge and then i felt like a really good connection we both love concerts and like new adventures and trying new things traveling stuff
Starting point is 00:04:01 like that and like she's very witty and she's very interesting um she's beautiful so um we went to a burger spot on the water nice okay yeah you know it was a lot of fun like we it was nice like kind of outside kind of area we were having some drinks you know just talking and afterwards we went and walked around and like kind of took in the scenery and then we you know just talking and afterwards we went and walked around and like kind of took in the scenery and then we you know we had a really great kiss and it was just like i don't understand why she goes to me because it felt so romantic and like idealized you know i mean maybe some people would think it's cheesy i don't know but that's what I was looking for. It sounds romantic, actually. So after all this time, you know she's ghosting you two weeks later. The date sounds great, but what is it about her that makes you want to see her now?
Starting point is 00:04:53 You know, I just felt like I had a real connection. We were kind of similar goals. We both want to travel. I just felt like we went well together. Did something happen on the date at all that may have made it go in a different direction well i will say you know something kind of not popular now is i just i have made a decision recently to abstain from sex until marriage okay and you told her this yes yes i did and this is new you haven't always okay okay right and you think her this? Yes, yes, I did. And this is new.
Starting point is 00:05:25 You haven't always. Yeah, I'm also a virgin. Okay, okay. Right. And you think maybe she had a problem with that because she's like, I need you right now, Ryan. You know, it's possible because like I don't think that's a thing that's common now.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Like, you know, some people do it, but it's like, especially, you know, here, like I don't feel like that's one of those things that people do anymore. But the reason why I kind of went that direction is, you know, I slept around and it felt empty and it felt like I was just kind of using girls for their body and I wasn't connecting. Right. You know, and it's one of those things after a while, you're like, gosh, like, what do
Starting point is 00:06:02 I really want? So, you know, I asked myself and I was like, I want somebody that i could build a future with and i feel like lana has that potential okay i can respect that after my last breakup i decided that i wasn't going to give myself to anybody unless uh i thought that their energy was good you know or that like it wasn't necessarily a marriage thing but it was kind of the same thing, but it was more about, I don't want to like mix my energy with bad energy. You know, cause I feel like it does. I feel like,
Starting point is 00:06:30 you know, you don't do, it does somehow become a part of you. Well, you exchange more than just what you can see. The energy is also exchanged between the two of you. So fair, fair for fair points for both of you.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Look at you guys. Thank you. Thank you for showing everybody that men. Thank you. Look at us maturing, right? Thank you for showing everybody that men want connections too. So why do you think she's ghosting you then? I think, you know, I just don't know if she was comfortable with that. I mean, that's my thought, but like, I don't know for sure. Because everything else went pretty well.
Starting point is 00:06:59 But when I said that, she didn't have a bad reaction. It was just kind of like she tensed up a little bit, you know? And then it kind of like that moment passed. So I was like, oh, I guess it's fine. We'll see if we can figure it out for you. Then we'll play a song, come back and then call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date. OK? OK, sounds great.
Starting point is 00:07:18 All right, man. Play a song, come back, get your first day follow up next. Hey, everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch, and I'm exhausted. But turns out the end is near, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an oxymoron.
Starting point is 00:07:58 But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee, Roy Wood Jr., and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric,
Starting point is 00:08:24 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Right in the middle of the first day, follow up. And if you're just joining us, Ryan is on the phone. He's getting ghosted by Lana. And in a minute, we're going to call her, see if she tells us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But first, Ryan, why don't you recap to everybody your situation? So I met Lana on Hinge. We connected really quickly. I felt like a good connection with her, lots of similar interests. We went to a burger spot on the water, had a bunch of cocktails and had a lot of fun. And we went for a walk, we kissed, everything seemed perfect. But I feel like maybe because I want to abstain
Starting point is 00:09:06 from sex until marriage because of my past, that she might be ghosting me. Okay. Are you ready for us to call her? Yes. Okay, here we go. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Lana, please?
Starting point is 00:09:29 This is Lana. Hi, Lana, how are you? My name is Jubal, and I host a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Lana. The whole show's here. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.
Starting point is 00:09:37 How are you? Hi. What's up, girl? I'm good, thank you. Have you ever heard the show before? I have not. Okay. I'll let you know something. We do a segment on our show.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It's called the First Date Follow-Up. What that is, is if you go out on a date with somebody and then you ghost them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. So we got an email about you. Oh, and this is from Ryan? Oh, yes, it is. Oh, wow. She knew right away.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah, sometimes people say another name so we know they're ghosting multiple people but you're obviously just ghosting ryan right now uh i would say that i have not exactly been ghosting ryan that wasn't my intention um i was taking time to process what he told me at the end of our date. Ryan said that he is waiting until marriage. And that is not something that I've ever done in a relationship. I have always had intimacy with all of my partners. And it's a really big part of a relationship for me. So it was not my intention to completely ghost Ryan.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I really was trying to take time to think about if this could be something that would work for me. I had such a good time. So you liked him? Yes. It was so magical. And he's such a spiritual guy. And we really connected. I felt like he was really seeing me but i'm afraid that if we get into this relationship without you know the intimacy
Starting point is 00:11:15 that i'm usual well one this sounds bad but what if we're not good together physically and we find out too late that's fair yeah and another thing that i have been thinking about is what if it becomes something that gives me you know reason to stray or thoughts to stray because i am a sexual person yeah okay so you're processing a lot of different things yeah absolutely i can understand that. Yeah. I mean, it's not something that you hear all the time. And especially if that's a way that you connect and share yourself with another person. And then that's a lot of pressure, too, right?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Because you're like, wait a second. So we're doing this. I'm going to get excited and want to unwrap the present. But I can't unless I marry you. So what if we could convince Ryan to sleep with you before you're married? Would you go out with him again? Jubilant. No, this is his commitment.
Starting point is 00:12:07 But would you? I would love to sleep with Ryan. But if this is a boundary that he is setting, and I were to get into a relationship with him, I would want to respect that. I would not. Once I am in the relationship, I would have given up any. I would not. Once I am in the relationship, I would not,
Starting point is 00:12:26 I would have given up any plans to sleep with Ryan. What if we could convince him to go back on his morals though? Jubal! She's respecting his boundaries. Maybe you should respect his boundaries too. I'll respect his boundaries for now. Lana, Ryan is actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Oh, hi, Ryan. Oh, hi Ryan. Yeah, I know it's probably like the most awkward way we could meet again, but I want to say, first of all, I respect that. Like you respect my boundaries. It was nice to hear that without you knowing I was there. Cause like that, that proves to me that if we can make it work, that this could work. But I just want to say, like, for me, I don't see intimacy as just there's physical, emotional, mental intimacy that can be built.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Like, you know, we can have days where we just cuddle, kiss, collapse, like all that's on the table still. I'm just not trying to take it all the way. So, like, where do you draw the line well i think that's something that we have to discuss right and doesn't mind your business girl got it got it i respect that and that does make me excited to hear that you have interest in being intimate with me um Um, I am, my biggest concern is still, I just am really concerned of straying. Um, and that's not your fault, not your fault at all. Uh, that's something that I need to decide and, you know, make a plan with my morals, um, that I will not, you know, if we were to be in a relationship together, that I will not feel that I'm not getting what I need and then look for what I need elsewhere. I think I can find ways to take care of what you need.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Ryan, not that I'm trying to get you to rethink the promise that you made to yourself, but I'm trying to get you to rethink the promise that you made to yourself but I'm trying to get you to rethink it when I decided to do this similar thing I didn't make it about marriage because you know you should really get to know somebody for and it can be a long time before marriage so that's a long time not doing it but
Starting point is 00:14:38 me and my therapist came up with I will not give myself to anybody until I know I have a secure connection with them well I think that's fair I know I have a secure connection with them. Well, I think that's fair. I think that's a healthy way of thinking of it, too. So because does it have to be like a ring and a ceremony and all that for Ryan to get
Starting point is 00:14:54 it on? OK, I don't think it has to, but there definitely has to be that line where it's like, I know I'm building a future with you at the very least. I think there's a lot of talk that we're getting ahead of ourselves here a little bit. You guys like each other, and I think there's definitely stuff that you guys can explore to even see if you're going to make it all that way. People just tell me not to get ahead of myself, and I feel like we're getting ahead of ourselves here, too.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So I don't know if there's a possibility of you getting your needs met in a certain way, Lana and Ryan. You know, you're open to exploring that stuff too. I don't see any problems. Yeah, I think that would work. I do think that it may be cheesy, but I think that it is very sweet that you brought me on the radio to call me for a second date. I think that is very romantic and I'm willing to try it. I think that we have
Starting point is 00:15:46 such a good connection. So, you'll go out with Ryan again? We'll pay for it. I will. I would love to see you again, Ryan. Awesome. That's great. I'm glad to hear that. I'm so excited, you know? Yeah, you guys are cute. I'm so excited too.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Me too. Yeah. Congratulations. Ryan, you did it cute. I'm so excited, too. Me, too. Meow, meow, meow. Of course. Yeah. Jubal. Congratulations. Ryan, you did it. You got another date. Woo!
Starting point is 00:16:11 Nice. All right. Jubal's first date follow-up. Hey, everyone. It's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha B
Starting point is 00:16:39 and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back at The Daily Show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast. Dive into Jon's unique take on the
Starting point is 00:17:05 biggest topics in politics entertainment sports and more joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else ready to laugh and stay informed listen on the iheartartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping markets and the economy are often hiding behind a blur of numbers. So that's why we created The Big Take from Bloomberg Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:18:22 to give you the context you need to make sense of it all. Every day in just 15 minutes, we dive into one global business story that matters. You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow the Big Take Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. People, my people, what's up?
Starting point is 00:18:46 This is Questlove. Man, I cannot believe we're already wrapping up another season of Questlove Supreme. Man, we've got some amazing guests lined up to close out the season, but, you know, I don't want any of you guys to miss all the incredible conversations we've had so far. I mean, we talked to A. Marie, Johnny Marr,
Starting point is 00:19:05 E, Jonathan Schechter, Billy Porter, and so many more. Look, if you haven't heard these episodes yet, hey, now's your chance. You gotta check them out. Listen to Questlove Supreme
Starting point is 00:19:17 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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