First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Sabrina & Darren – First Date Crumbles Over a Meatball Mishap

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Sabrina thought her dinner date with Darren was perfect—great pasta, hours of conversation, and what felt like real chemistry. But when Darren stopped responding, she turned to The Jubal Show for a First Date Follow Up. The reason for his ghosting? A single meatball. Darren was turned off when Sabrina playfully grabbed food off his plate with her bare hands, calling it a “boundary violation.” What she thought was flirtation, he saw as a hygiene horror show. Is a finger-snatched meatball enough to end a budding romance? Hear both sides of the story—and decide for yourself! Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sabrina is on the phone today for a first date follow up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Darren. So in a few minutes, we're going to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first, Sabrina, how long has it been since you heard from Darren? Um, it's been about a week. Yeah. Seven days actually of digital silence.

Oh, have you reached out to him? I, yeah, actually yesterday I did. I asked him if he wanted to get wine drunk and make bad decisions, but nothing. That's fun! That's a great text. I love that, but okay. That would be an awesome text to get. Were there any other messages you had sent before that one?

Yeah, last week I texted him like immediately after a date, I said, hey, I had a great time and asked if he wanted to do something again, but still nothing. Oh, why don't you tell us about the date? So it was super cute. He wanted to do something again, but still nothing. Oh, why don't you tell us about the date? So it was super cute. We went to a pasta place, like that actually made homemade pasta. And I'm like, the rigatoni was to die for.

Yeah, he takes the spot out. So points for great taste. He wore this button up that looks like he had ironed it, which is pretty rare these days. Like we talked for hours on top of that. Like he and I just went on and up until closing time. Like the server literally started vacuuming around us. Yeah. Oh wow.

You know, I said like, let's maybe get up and go. And he kind of didn't initiate it. But once we did walk to the parking garage together, I mean, we had this moment. I almost thought he was going to kiss me, but he just hugged me instead and like held me really tight for a moment and then said, drive safe. It was really intentional. Okay. Did he say anything about seeing you again after that? Okay. Did he say anything about seeing you again after that? Um, no, nothing really got like brought up or planned.

You know, it's just kind of, I felt we left on a great note. Yeah. And then just nothing after the date. Yeah. I mean, like we did great turnpiking with talking and I just felt like, okay, I felt like the ball was in his court after he said drive safe. Like, okay, that kind of meant the follow-up was to come the next day, but nothing. Yeah. I feel that too.

I mean, it sounds like everything went really well, especially since you closed the restaurant down. I mean, he could have tried to leave at any time at that point. Is there anything that could have happened though? That would be the reason why he's ghosting you? Uh, I have a tendency to overshare, um, like just a smidge. We got on the topic of exes, which I didn't bring up by the way. Um, but I accidentally mentioned to answer one of his questions that I do have a tattoo and it's my ex's name.

Oh, okay. Yeah, totally due to a tequila field weekend. I mean, bad decisions all around. You're not the only person that's accidentally gotten the wrong tattoo. Yeah. I mean, I was right at the time. And I made it really clear to him that I hate that X right now and I'm in the process of getting it removed.

I mean, I'm just not the type of person that gets a name tattooed on them. But like I said, bad decision. I feel pretty embarrassed by it, but I'm also pretty embarrassed I even like shared about it. Okay. He's a cute little nugget, you know? If he were to see parts of your body at some point, he'd find it.

Right. I guess it's good to be honest. It's the best policy. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see if that is the tattoo. If that is the reason you're getting ghosted. We'll play a song, come back,

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But first, Sabrina, why don't you break down your date again one more time? Yeah, I felt like it was a great date and we were talking until the restaurant was closing. I mean, and had this moment outside in the parking garage. I just don't know what went wrong other than I could have possibly spilled too much about my tattoo that is of my ex's name. Do you, what would you care?

Um, probably not. I don't think I would care. It depends where the tattoo was, how big it was, you know. say you're not one to talk. So maybe that was a bad example Can't judge because I have tattoos that yeah, so um, oh yeah that I want to get rid of but anyway Well, we hope it's not that yeah, we'll see if it is. All right. Are you ready for us to call him? Yeah Definitely ready for it. Okay, here we go. Hi, may I speak to Darren, please? Yeah, this is Darren. Hey Darren, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi Darren, I'm Nina. Hi, I I speak to Darren please? Yeah, this is Darren. Hey Darren. How are you? This is a radio show. It's called the Jubal show

Hi, Darren. I'm Nina. I am Victoria. My name is Jubal Okay Have you ever heard the show before? Yeah. Yeah, so this um, I'm guessing this is about Sabrina, huh? Yes, it is. It's the first date follow-up You know the segment where if you go somebody they can email us to call you and find out why are you ghosting them? Sabrina emailed us about you. We talked to her and she said that she thought everything was cool. She really liked you, but now you're ghosting her.

Do you have a minute to tell us why? Yeah. She ate off my plate with her bare hands. That's it. What do you mean? That's it? Yeah. She reached across the table, mid sentence, grabbed a meatball with her fingers and said just one bite Then popped in her mouth like it was a tic-tac and licked her fingers She grabbed a meatball with her bare hands

Okay, gotta love a meatball. That's enough to ghost somebody though For me it was like watching someone snatch a fly midair. No warning. Just boom balls gone It was like watching someone snatch a flight midair. No warning, just boom, balls gone. Okay. That's so cool to me though. Like you can do that. Like, okay. I mean, that's impressive to pop a whole meatball in your mouth that quick.

But Darren, she told us you guys like hung out to the restaurant clothes. Did you just, I don't know, decide to put that in the back of your mind until the end of the day? Honestly, um, yeah, because I wanted dessert because she ate my food. Okay. Okay. Okay. And that's the only reason is the meatball tic tac incident. You know, I feel like that's a pretty significant thing. Like, y'all don't think that's a big deal?

I think I would be annoyed if somebody didn't ask and they just reached across and grabbed my plate. Not only did she not ask, she did it with her bare hands. Maybe she just felt really comfortable with you. I guess, but I didn't even know how to react. I just stared at my plate like it betrayed me. That's a good point. I don't know how I'd react either.

Like french fries, that's fine. Like you assume people would grab those, but to take a whole meatball with your fingers meatballs an interesting choice a little messy I don't even want anyone touching my french fries Darren You might already know this but Sabrina's on the phone and she's been listening and wants to talk to you. Oh My god. Hi, Darren Hey, Sabrina

Hey Hey, Darren. Uh, hey, Sabrina. Hey. Like, honestly, it was the meatball. That was the final trigger for you. Look, you didn't even use a fork. You just pounced like a lion. Yeah, I mean, it was the one meatball. I was just being playful. Playful? You were shoveling food in your face like a caveman. Aww. No, I was just being playful. Playful? You were shoveling food in your face like a caveman.

Aww. No, I was not. I was being like sexy with the meatball and drawing attention to my mouth with it. You got a caveman from that? That was not sexy at all. That was probably the most unsexy thing I've ever seen. Are you like not into girls?

Because I would think any guy would think that sexy. Look, I mean, I am into girls and you are you're beautiful and you're nice, but it was definitely a boundary violation. And honestly, I barely barely known you an hour and you were reaching across the table for my food. I mean, honestly, that's going far boundary violation. Like, come on. Seriously, it was just cute. I mean, if you need me to, I'll get you more meatball. It's not about the meatball. It's about trust.

But Sabrina, wow. And hygiene. This is ridiculous. Hygiene like honestly, because I use my hands, they were clean and it was going into my mouth. There's nothing unhygienic about it. That's why we have forks. You didn't even use a fork. Would you still be ghosting her if she would have used a fork instead of her hands?

Well, if she had asked first if she could have a meatball and then use her fork, yeah, that would be a totally different story. Wow. So if she promises to use forks from here on out, does that change that for you or is it wrecked? You know, I just have some trauma to unpack with this stolen meatball. Clearly. Hey Darren, would you like another date with Sabrina? We'll pay for it.

Hmm. Let me think. Do I want to go on another date with a woman who used her bare hands to grab food off of my plate, risking all sorts of disease and end No. End of the world fiasco. No, I'm good. No, no. End of the world. That got real drama. You know what? Darren, again, if it was the meatballs, then good luck finding someone who can handle your deep emotions to use the need of having a fork youth every time. And good luck learning how to use one. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Jubal's first date follow up. It's your girl Tia Madison from the Outspoken Podcast Network from iHeart Podcast. We're doing pride in a big way. Come celebrate with my show Outlaws with Tia Madison. So do you throw salt over your shoulder sometimes? I'm not that much. Oh, you're not a brujo.

Keep the party going. Tell me something messy with Brandon Kyle Goodman. We got BFF, Black Fat Fem, and Afterlives, Marcia P. Johnson. You're going to be gagging. Just get your heart ready. Let's live loud and proud, y'all. Have a happy Pride and listen to all the outspoken shows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts in.

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You know who it is, Brandon Kyle Goodman. But this Pride Month, call me Messy Mother. On my podcast, Tell Me Something Messy, I'm diving into all the juicy stories and sizzling hot tea that'll make you want to live your life liberated and free. Nothing is off the table for our messy geekies. Plus, I'll be joined by star-studded guests like T.S. Madison and dragging messy stories out of guests like the one and only Katya. Oh, I can't wait to get messy with you. Listen to Tell Me Something Messy on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

listen to podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.