Sabrina & Darren - Ghosted Because Of A Meatball
00:00This is an I-Heart podcast.Guaranteed Human.Hi, Kyle.Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan?Just one page as a Google Doc.And send me the link.Thanks.Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you.
00:14Here's the link.But there was no link.There was no business plan.I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet.I'm Evan Ratliff here with a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age.Listen as I attempt to build a real startup run by fake people.check out the second season of my podcast shell game on the iHeart radio app or wherever you get your podcastson this week's episode of next chapter i t d jakes sit down with denzel washington a two-time academy
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02:31to the stuff you actually wonder about.So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app,Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get, your favorite shows.What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood,a Cuban musician with a dream,and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time?You get Desi Arness.On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama,
02:52I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life,how he redefined American television,and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines waiting for a face like hours on screen.Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.First date of follow-up.Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys, online at Advocateslaw.com.Sabrina is on the phone today for a first date follow-up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Darren,so in a few minutes we're going to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her.
03:26and maybe get her another date.But first, Sabrina, how long has it been since you heard from Darren?It's been about a week.Yeah, seven days actually of digital silence.Aw, have you reached out to him?Yeah, actually yesterday I did.I asked him if he wanted to get wine drunk and make bad decisions, but nothing.That's fun.
03:46That's a great text.I love that, but okay.It would be an awesome text to get.Were there any other messages you had sent before that one?Yeah, last week I texted him, like,Immediately after our date, I said, hey, I had a great time and asked if he wanted to do something again, but still nothing.Oh, why don't you tell us about the date?So it was super cute.
04:07We went to a pasta place that actually made homemade pasta.And, oh, my God, the rigatoni was to die for.Yeah, he takes a spot out, so points for great taste.He wore this button up that looks like he had ironed it, which is pretty rare these days.Like, we talked for hours on top of that.Like, he and I just went on and up until closing time.Like, the server literally started vacuuming around us.Oh, wow.
04:37You know, I said, like, let's maybe get up and go.And he kind of didn't initiate it.But once we did walk to the parking garage together, I mean, we had this moment.I almost thought he was going to kiss me.But he just hugged me instead and, like, held me really tight for a moment.and then said dry space.It was really intentional.Okay.
05:01Did he say anything about seeing you again after that?No, nothing really got, like, brought up or plans, you know?It's just kind of, I felt we left on a great note.Yeah.And then just nothing after the date.Yeah.I mean, like, we did great turnpiking with talking.and I just felt like, okay, I felt like the ball was in his court
05:31after he said drive safe, like, okay, that kind of meant the follow-upwas to come the next day, but nothing.Yeah, I feel that too.I mean, it sounds like everything went really well,especially since you closed the restaurant down.I mean, he could have tried to leave at any time at that point.Is there anything that could have happened, though,that would be the reason why he's ghosting you?
05:52I have a tendency to overshare.Like just a smidge.And we got on the topic of exes, which I didn't bring up, by the way, but I accidentallymentioned to answer one of his questions that I do have a tattoo, and it's my exes name.Oh, okay.Yeah, totally due to a tequila field weekend.I mean, bad decisions all around.So you have the only person that's accidentally gotten the wrong tattoo.
06:24Yeah.I mean, I was right at the time.And I made it really clear to him that I hate that x-ray now,and I'm in the process of getting it removed.I mean, I'm just not the type of person that gets the name tattooed on them,but like I said, bad decision.I feel pretty embarrassed by it, but I'm also pretty embarrassed.I even, like, shared about it.
06:46Okay.He's a cute little nugget, you know, if he were to see parts of your body at some point,you'd find it.Right.I guess it's good to be.honest. This is the best policy. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see if that is the tattoo. That is thereason you're getting ghosted. We'll play a song, come back, and then call him and see if he'll tellus why he's ghosting you and maybe get to a second date if you still want him. Okay?
07:06All right. Thank you, well. Okay. We'll get your first day follow up right after this.Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as aGoogle doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page businessplan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan.It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet.My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman.There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person, a billion-dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen.I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game.
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10:18Sabrina is on the phone, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Darren.So in a second, we're going to call him.See if they'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date.But first, Sabrina, why don't you break down your date again one more time?Yeah, I felt like it was a great date.And we were talking until the restaurant was closing.I mean, and had this moment outside in the parking garage.I just don't know what went wrong other than I could have possibly spilled too much about my tattoo.
10:48That is of my ex's name.What would you care?Um, probably not.I don't think I would care.It depends where the tattoo was, how big it was, you know.Also, you're not one to talk, so maybe that was a bad example.Yeah, I also, um, can't judge because I have tattoos that, yeah, so, um, that I want to get rid of.But anyway, well, we hope it's not that.
11:11Yeah, we'll see if it is, all right?Are you ready for us to call him?Yeah, definitely ready for it.Okay, here we go.Hello?Yeah, this is Darren, please.Yeah, this is a radio show.It's called The Jubal Show.
11:40Hi, Darren, I'm Nina.Hi, I'm Victoria.And my name's Jubal.Okay.Have you ever heard the show before?Yeah, yeah.So this, I'm guessing this is about Sabrina, huh?Yes, it is.
11:53It's the first date follow-up, you know, the segment where if you ghost somebody, they can email us to call you and find out why are you gosing them.Sabrina emailed us about you.We talked to her, and she said that she thought everything was cool.She really liked you, but now you're ghosting her.Do you have a minute to tell us why?Yeah, she ate off my plate with their bare hands.That's it?What do you mean?
12:15That's it.Yeah, she reached across the table, mid-sentence, grabbed the meat bowl with their fingers and said, just one bite, then popped in her mouth like.was a tick-tack and licked her fingers.She grabbed a meatball with her bear hand.Okay.Gotta love a meatball.That's enough to ghost somebody, though.For me, it was like watching someone snatch a fly mid-air.
12:36No warning, just boom.Ball's gone.That's so cool to me, though.Like, if you can do that, like...I mean, that's impressive to pop a whole meatball in your mouth that quick.But Darren, she told us you guys, like, hung out to the restaurant closed.Did you just, I don't know, decide to put that in the back of your mind?until the end of the date?
12:55Honestly, yeah, because I wanted dessertbecause she ate my food.Okay.Okay.And that's the only reason is the meatball,Tick-Tac incident.You know, I feel like that's a pretty significant thing.Like, you all don't think that's a big deal?
13:16I think I would be annoyed if somebody didn't askand they just reached across and grabbed off my plate.Not only did she not ask,She did it with her bare hands.Maybe she just felt really comfortable with you.I guess, but I don't even know how to react.I just stared at my plate like it betrayed me.That's a good point.
13:34I don't know how I'd react either.Like, French fries, that's fine.Like, you assume people would grab those,but to take a whole meatball with your fingers.Meatball is an interesting choice.It's a little messy.I don't even want anyone touching my french fries.Darren, you might already know this,
13:48but Sabrina's on the phone.She sure is.She's been listening and wants to talk to you.Oh, my God. Hi, Darren.Uh, hey, Sabrina.Hey.Like, honestly, it was a meatball. That, that was the final trigger for you.Look, you didn't even use a pork. You just pounce like a lion.
14:12Yeah, I mean, it was one meatball. I was just being playful.Playful, you were shoveling food in your face like a caveman.Aw.No, I was not. I was being playful.like sexy with the meatball and drawing attention to my mouth with it you got a caveman from thatthat was not sexy at all that was probably the most unsexy thing i've ever seenare you like not into girls because i would think any guy would think that's sexylook i mean i am into girls and you are you're beautiful and you're nice but it was definitely
14:49a boundary violation and honestly i barelybarely known you an hour and you were reaching across the table for my food i mean honestly that'sgoing far boundary violation like come on seriously it was just cute i mean if you need me too i'llget you more meatballs it's not about the meatball it's about trust it's about trust Sabrinaand hygiene this is ridiculous hygiene like honestly because i use my hatThey were clean, and it was going into my mouth.There was nothing unhygienic about it.That's why we have forks.
15:31You didn't even use a fork.Would you still be ghosted if she would have used a fork instead of her hands?Well, if she had asked first if she could have a meatball and then use her fork, yeah, that would be a totally different story.Wow.So if she promises to use forks from here on out, does that change that for you?Or is it wrecked?You know, I just have some.trauma to unpack with the stolen meatbook.
15:55Clearly.Hey, Darren, would you like another date with Sabrina will pay for it?Hmm.Let me think.Do I want to go on another date with a woman who used her bare hands to grab food offof my plate risking all sorts of disease and end of the world fiasco?No, I'm good.No.
16:20End of the world.That got real.You know what, Darren, again, if it was the meatball, then good luck finding someone you can handle your deep emotions to use the need of having a fork use every time.And good luck learning how to use one.Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks.Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page business plan for you. Here's the link. Here's the link.But there was no link. There was no business plan. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be ableto do that yet. I'm Evan Ratliff here with a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age. Listen
17:03as I attempt to build a real startup run by fake people. Check out the second season of mypodcast, Shell Game, on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.On this week's episode of next chapter, I, TDJ sit down with Denzel Washington, a two-time Academyaward-winning actor and cultural icon.I don't take any credit for it.I just didn't put me first.I just put God first, and he's carried me.Listen to the next chapter podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever
17:37you get your podcast.New episodes drop weekly.On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you upat night.I'm Dr. Priyanko Wally, a double board certified physician.And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, a comedian.and someone who once Googled,do I have scurvy at 3 a.m.
17:55And on our show, we're talking about health in a different way,like our episode where we look at diabetes.In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic.How preventable is type 2?Extremely.Listen to health stuff on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,or wherever you get your podcasts.Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here.
18:18I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA,and I want to tell you about my new podcast.called The Mail Room.And I'm Jordan, the show's producer.And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long.I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't.Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility.We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about.
18:41So check out the Mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows.What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood?a Cuban musician with a dreamand one of the most iconic sitcomsof all time. You get Desi Arnesson the podcast starring Desi Arnazand Wilmer Valderrama. I'll take youin a journey to Desi's life, how
19:02he redefined American televisionand what that meant for all of uswatching from the sidelines, waitingfor a face like hours on screen.Listen to starring Desi Arnazand Wilmer Valderrama on theIHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, orwherever you get your podcast.
19:17This is an IHeart podcast.Guaranteed human.
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