First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Sabrina & Darren - Ghosted Because Of A Meatball

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

Sabrina is on the phone and she is getting ghosted by a guy named Darren. She thinks she is getting ghosted because of her tattoo of her ex's name, but the real reasons has something to do with a Meat...ball! Find out what really happened on their date, why Darren is ghosting her, and if Sabrina will get a second date with Darren in today's First Date Follow Up on The Jubal Show! Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc. And send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. I'm Evan Ratliff here with a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age. Listen as I attempt to build a real startup run by fake people. check out the second season of my podcast shell game on the iHeart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts on this week's episode of next chapter i t d jakes sit down with denzel washington a two-time academy
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Starting point is 00:01:35 On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. I'm Dr. Priyanko Wally, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane de Bolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, Do I have scurvy at 3 a.m? And on our show, we're talking about health
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Starting point is 00:02:10 I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mail Room. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health from testosterone and fitness. to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers
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Starting point is 00:02:52 I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life, how he redefined American television, and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines waiting for a face like hours on screen. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. First date of follow-up. Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys, online at Advocateslaw.com. Sabrina is on the phone today for a first date follow-up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Darren, so in a few minutes we're going to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her.
Starting point is 00:03:26 and maybe get her another date. But first, Sabrina, how long has it been since you heard from Darren? It's been about a week. Yeah, seven days actually of digital silence. Aw, have you reached out to him? Yeah, actually yesterday I did. I asked him if he wanted to get wine drunk and make bad decisions, but nothing. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:03:46 That's a great text. I love that, but okay. It would be an awesome text to get. Were there any other messages you had sent before that one? Yeah, last week I texted him, like, Immediately after our date, I said, hey, I had a great time and asked if he wanted to do something again, but still nothing. Oh, why don't you tell us about the date? So it was super cute.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We went to a pasta place that actually made homemade pasta. And, oh, my God, the rigatoni was to die for. Yeah, he takes a spot out, so points for great taste. He wore this button up that looks like he had ironed it, which is pretty rare these days. Like, we talked for hours on top of that. Like, he and I just went on and up until closing time. Like, the server literally started vacuuming around us. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You know, I said, like, let's maybe get up and go. And he kind of didn't initiate it. But once we did walk to the parking garage together, I mean, we had this moment. I almost thought he was going to kiss me. But he just hugged me instead and, like, held me really tight for a moment. and then said dry space. It was really intentional. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Did he say anything about seeing you again after that? No, nothing really got, like, brought up or plans, you know? It's just kind of, I felt we left on a great note. Yeah. And then just nothing after the date. Yeah. I mean, like, we did great turnpiking with talking. and I just felt like, okay, I felt like the ball was in his court
Starting point is 00:05:31 after he said drive safe, like, okay, that kind of meant the follow-up was to come the next day, but nothing. Yeah, I feel that too. I mean, it sounds like everything went really well, especially since you closed the restaurant down. I mean, he could have tried to leave at any time at that point. Is there anything that could have happened, though, that would be the reason why he's ghosting you?
Starting point is 00:05:52 I have a tendency to overshare. Like just a smidge. And we got on the topic of exes, which I didn't bring up, by the way, but I accidentally mentioned to answer one of his questions that I do have a tattoo, and it's my exes name. Oh, okay. Yeah, totally due to a tequila field weekend. I mean, bad decisions all around. So you have the only person that's accidentally gotten the wrong tattoo.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah. I mean, I was right at the time. And I made it really clear to him that I hate that x-ray now, and I'm in the process of getting it removed. I mean, I'm just not the type of person that gets the name tattooed on them, but like I said, bad decision. I feel pretty embarrassed by it, but I'm also pretty embarrassed. I even, like, shared about it.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Okay. He's a cute little nugget, you know, if he were to see parts of your body at some point, you'd find it. Right. I guess it's good to be. honest. This is the best policy. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see if that is the tattoo. That is the reason you're getting ghosted. We'll play a song, come back, and then call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get to a second date if you still want him. Okay?
Starting point is 00:07:06 All right. Thank you, well. Okay. We'll get your first day follow up right after this. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person, a billion-dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen. I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game.
Starting point is 00:07:51 This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company with a real. real product run by fake people. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. On the podcast health stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, do I have scurvy at 3 a.m. On health stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also what our health says about us and the way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Or our in-depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are. Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that you're like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible but like you don't even know you don't know you don't know it's going to be a fun ride so tune in listen to health
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Starting point is 00:09:56 And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Right in the middle of your first aid follow up, if you're just joining us.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Sabrina is on the phone, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Darren. So in a second, we're going to call him. See if they'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date. But first, Sabrina, why don't you break down your date again one more time? Yeah, I felt like it was a great date. And we were talking until the restaurant was closing. I mean, and had this moment outside in the parking garage. I just don't know what went wrong other than I could have possibly spilled too much about my tattoo.
Starting point is 00:10:48 That is of my ex's name. What would you care? Um, probably not. I don't think I would care. It depends where the tattoo was, how big it was, you know. Also, you're not one to talk, so maybe that was a bad example. Yeah, I also, um, can't judge because I have tattoos that, yeah, so, um, that I want to get rid of. But anyway, well, we hope it's not that.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah, we'll see if it is, all right? Are you ready for us to call him? Yeah, definitely ready for it. Okay, here we go. Hello? Yeah, this is Darren, please. Yeah, this is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Hi, Darren, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. Okay. Have you ever heard the show before? Yeah, yeah. So this, I'm guessing this is about Sabrina, huh? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It's the first date follow-up, you know, the segment where if you ghost somebody, they can email us to call you and find out why are you gosing them. Sabrina emailed us about you. We talked to her, and she said that she thought everything was cool. She really liked you, but now you're ghosting her. Do you have a minute to tell us why? Yeah, she ate off my plate with their bare hands. That's it? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:12:15 That's it. Yeah, she reached across the table, mid-sentence, grabbed the meat bowl with their fingers and said, just one bite, then popped in her mouth like. was a tick-tack and licked her fingers. She grabbed a meatball with her bear hand. Okay. Gotta love a meatball. That's enough to ghost somebody, though. For me, it was like watching someone snatch a fly mid-air.
Starting point is 00:12:36 No warning, just boom. Ball's gone. That's so cool to me, though. Like, if you can do that, like... I mean, that's impressive to pop a whole meatball in your mouth that quick. But Darren, she told us you guys, like, hung out to the restaurant closed. Did you just, I don't know, decide to put that in the back of your mind? until the end of the date?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Honestly, yeah, because I wanted dessert because she ate my food. Okay. Okay. And that's the only reason is the meatball, Tick-Tac incident. You know, I feel like that's a pretty significant thing. Like, you all don't think that's a big deal?
Starting point is 00:13:16 I think I would be annoyed if somebody didn't ask and they just reached across and grabbed off my plate. Not only did she not ask, She did it with her bare hands. Maybe she just felt really comfortable with you. I guess, but I don't even know how to react. I just stared at my plate like it betrayed me. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I don't know how I'd react either. Like, French fries, that's fine. Like, you assume people would grab those, but to take a whole meatball with your fingers. Meatball is an interesting choice. It's a little messy. I don't even want anyone touching my french fries. Darren, you might already know this,
Starting point is 00:13:48 but Sabrina's on the phone. She sure is. She's been listening and wants to talk to you. Oh, my God. Hi, Darren. Uh, hey, Sabrina. Hey. Like, honestly, it was a meatball. That, that was the final trigger for you. Look, you didn't even use a pork. You just pounce like a lion.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yeah, I mean, it was one meatball. I was just being playful. Playful, you were shoveling food in your face like a caveman. Aw. No, I was not. I was being playful. like sexy with the meatball and drawing attention to my mouth with it you got a caveman from that that was not sexy at all that was probably the most unsexy thing i've ever seen are you like not into girls because i would think any guy would think that's sexy look i mean i am into girls and you are you're beautiful and you're nice but it was definitely
Starting point is 00:14:49 a boundary violation and honestly i barely barely known you an hour and you were reaching across the table for my food i mean honestly that's going far boundary violation like come on seriously it was just cute i mean if you need me too i'll get you more meatballs it's not about the meatball it's about trust it's about trust Sabrina and hygiene this is ridiculous hygiene like honestly because i use my hat They were clean, and it was going into my mouth. There was nothing unhygienic about it. That's why we have forks.
Starting point is 00:15:31 You didn't even use a fork. Would you still be ghosted if she would have used a fork instead of her hands? Well, if she had asked first if she could have a meatball and then use her fork, yeah, that would be a totally different story. Wow. So if she promises to use forks from here on out, does that change that for you? Or is it wrecked? You know, I just have some. trauma to unpack with the stolen meatbook.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Clearly. Hey, Darren, would you like another date with Sabrina will pay for it? Hmm. Let me think. Do I want to go on another date with a woman who used her bare hands to grab food off of my plate risking all sorts of disease and end of the world fiasco? No, I'm good. No.
Starting point is 00:16:20 End of the world. That got real. You know what, Darren, again, if it was the meatball, then good luck finding someone you can handle your deep emotions to use the need of having a fork use every time. And good luck learning how to use one. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page business plan for you. Here's the link. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. I'm Evan Ratliff here with a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age. Listen
Starting point is 00:17:03 as I attempt to build a real startup run by fake people. Check out the second season of my podcast, Shell Game, on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. On this week's episode of next chapter, I, TDJ sit down with Denzel Washington, a two-time Academy award-winning actor and cultural icon. I don't take any credit for it. I just didn't put me first. I just put God first, and he's carried me. Listen to the next chapter podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever
Starting point is 00:17:37 you get your podcast. New episodes drop weekly. On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. I'm Dr. Priyanko Wally, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, a comedian. and someone who once Googled, do I have scurvy at 3 a.m.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And on our show, we're talking about health in a different way, like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Listen to health stuff on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA, and I want to tell you about my new podcast. called The Mail Room. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So check out the Mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood? a Cuban musician with a dream and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time. You get Desi Arness on the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama. I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life, how
Starting point is 00:19:02 he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:19:17 This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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