First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - She Peed a Little… and Got Ghosted?
Episode Date: May 29, 2025Sierra thought her glow-bowling date with Alie was electric—until he never texted back. Why? Because she laughed so hard… she peed a little. On his couch. Alie swears he’s not mad, ...just not ready for that kind of first impression. But when he calls her a “weekend-only” kind of girl, the conversation takes a turn. Is Sierra down for a second date… or done for good? It’s hilarious, uncomfortable, and weirdly relatable. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal.
Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone.
Most of all, his wife, Caroline.
He texted, I've ruined our lives.
You're going to want to divorce me.
How far would he go to cover up what he'd done?
The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly,
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And this ranks right up there
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First date of follow-up by the advocates, injury attorneys online at advocateslaw.com. Sierra is on the phone today for a first date follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude
named Ollie. So in a few minutes, we're going to call him and see why he's ghosting her
and maybe get her another date. But first, Sierra, how long has it been since you heard
from Ollie?
Oh, it's been like maybe a week, maybe two weeks now.
Have you reached out to him in that time?
Um, I texted him once and I haven't heard anything back yet.
And so he's just ghosting me.
It's just, it's not awesome.
Let's go backwards.
Why don't you tell us about how you guys met, how the date was?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I met Ali online and we decided we should do something that's super fun for our first
date.
So we did something a little non-traditional and went glow bowling.
It's like glow night.
Okay.
Like full moon on your house.
Yeah.
It was so much fun.
It was like a rave. Um, lots of glow lights everywhere,
body paint, um, you know, like black light, everything in loud music, lots of drinks.
It was so much fun. Yeah. That sounds fun. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and it was a really good date.
I mean, like, you know, we were dancing and there's a lot of, a lot of music and drinks
and, and like, we had a fun time and then we went
back to his place afterwards.
Okay.
Cause I was going to ask if you got a chance to talk to him much, you know, globaling is
not necessarily a place for talking.
It's a place for glowing and bowling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we, we kind of, you know, um, knew that going in, um, but we just wanted to see like if the chemistry was there and
it, and it was.
Okay.
I see what you mean.
You just got artistic with your body pain or?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good way to put it.
Cool.
And so the chemistry was there?
Yes.
Um, I felt it.
Um, I feel like we had a really great time, but I will say, I, I think maybe I had maybe one too many drinks at
the ballerina. So I feel like my,
like I didn't come off as, as good as I could have.
Like I should have just kept myself to two drinks and instead I had three.
And I just think that it took me to the next level.
Maybe I scared him.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Do you remember anything that you did that was too much?
I think maybe he didn't expect me to drink as much.
I mean three drinks isn't terrible.
I mean unless I mean some people are kind of you know,, like, like, I'm a total lightweight, though.
I am such a lightweight.
It's like one drink for me.
And then it's like, oh, OK, she's fine.
But he was like, oh, I'll drive you home.
We'll go to my place, you know, and he drove me home.
So like, I don't know, were you sloppy or were you saying things?
Maybe. I don't know.
I don't know. Like don't know. Like I, I definitely was tipsy.
Um, but I don't know.
I don't think, I don't think it was that bad.
Okay.
But if you were to say something weird happened on the day, it would be that you were wasted.
Yeah.
What's the last thing that he said to you?
Uh, I think he said like, have a good night, you know? That's what he said after you guys had chemistry.
He said have a good night.
Oof.
Not like I'll see you again and you guys plan another date or anything.
I kind of pushed that where I was like, hey, let's do this again.
Let's let's do something later this next week.
And he was like, I'll have to wait and see.
Like I have to go and check some things.
He didn't get, he gave me like a non-answer, you know?
Okay.
All right, so it got weird.
Yeah.
All right, well we'll play a song, come back
and then call him and see if he'll tell us
why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date, okay?
Thank you.
Okay, we'll play a song, come back
and get your first date follow up next.
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Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone,
most of all, his wife, Caroline.
He texted, I've ruined our lives.
You're going to want to divorce me.
Caroline's husband was living another life
behind the scenes.
He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community.
She said you left bruises, pulled her hair,
that type of thing.
No.
How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done?
You're unable to keep track of all your lies,
and quite frankly, I question how many other women
may bring forward allegations in the future.
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She was stoic, modest, tough, someone who inspired people.
Everyone thought they knew her, until they didn't.
I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real?
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Is this real?
I just couldn't wrap my head around what kind of person would do that to another person
that was getting treatment, that was dying.
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I've always been told I'm a really good listener, right?
And I maximized that while I was lying.
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I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation.
To most people, I'm the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024.
Voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships.
It's more than personal.
It's political, it's societal, and at times, it's far from what I originally intended
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Sierra is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ollie.
We're about to call him and see if it tells why he's ghosting her.
But first Sierra, why don't you catch us up on your situation?
Yeah, Ollie and I went to gloat night at the boulder in a near us and we had a great time.
I got a little too tipsy, I think.
And now he's ghosting me and we went back to his place and then I went home later after
that.
And got a strike.
She got sent home as like a spirit.
He hasn't gotten back to you.
Are you ready for us to call him? Mm hmm.
Okay, here we go.
Hello?
Hi, may I speak to Ollie please?
This is him.
Ollie, how are you?
My name is Jubal.
I'm calling from a radio show.
It's called the Jubal Show.
Hi Ollie.
I'm Nina, also on the show.
Hi, and I'm Victoria.
Oh, hello.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
Hi, I'm Victoria. Hi, I'm Victoria. Hi, I'm Victoria. Hi, I'm Victoria. Hi, how are you? My name is Jubal. I'm calling from a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show.
Hi Ollie, I'm Nina, also on the show.
Hi, and I'm Victoria.
Oh.
Oh, hello.
Oh, hello.
Do you listen to the show ever?
I've heard it before, yeah, definitely.
I definitely recognize those names.
Okay, sweet.
That's what we try to go for.
I've heard it before.
So thank you for hearing it before.
Have you ever heard of First Aid Follow-Up before?
I'm not sure.
Well, I'll tell you what it is.
A first aid follow up is a segment we do on the show where if you go out on a date
with somebody and then you end up ghosting them, they can email us to get you on the
phone and ask why you're ghosting them.
OK, and we got an email about you from somebody.
Wait, really?
Yes.
Have you been globaling lately?
Yeah.
Globaling?
Yes.
Okay.
Was it with somebody named Sierra?
Sierra?
Yeah, Sierra.
Uh huh.
Okay.
And it's been a few weeks since you talked to Sierra.
You had to spoon feed him that.
Are you really seeing that many people?
Well, you know, I don't think I'm ghosting anyone.
Okay. OK.
Yes, you're a little a lot of fun.
We had a lot of fun.
She told us about your day.
She said that you guys really hit it off, but now you're not responding to her,
which would be ghosting.
It was fun.
I had a lot of fun.
And yeah, I just haven't got back to her, I guess.
I mean, generally, when you don't get back to somebody for a few weeks, that kind of
is defined as ghosting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm, I was very busy with work and like my work's very intense and kind of takes
a lot of my attention.
So you want to go out with her again?
Sounds like you're ghosting her.
If you really like somebody, you're going to make sure you talk to them.
Well, I mean, we had fun. We definitely had a lot of drinks.
And then I took her to my place.
And, you know, we had another drink and.
Well, she beat herself.
What? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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laughing. Like he had me laughing and that's why I peed. Okay. Like,
Oh, it was just a little hittle. What? I mean, it's when you laugh really hard and a little
bit comes out. That's not a big deal. That happens to everybody all the time.
No, I mean it was more than a fiddle.
I had to get paper towels and you know, and I was like not upset.
I was just like, it's fine.
It's fine.
And but then it wasn't that bad.
Okay.
It's seriously, seriously bad.
I'm not saying it's bad that you peed and it's fine. I'm definitely not saying it's bad. Okay. It's seriously, seriously. It wasn't bad. I'm not saying it's bad that you peed and it's fine.
I'm definitely not saying it's bad. It's what I totally get it.
We had to drink.
Oh my God.
I peed behind a donut store once.
You know, the amount of people that I, that have peed on dates with me a lot.
Wait, are you serious?
Yes.
Like I know it happens, especially when drinking is involved.
It's not that uncommon.
I mean, and I've also done it too.
So I was saying it's not, it's not like a bad thing.
I think the drinking had a lot to do with this.
You know, like it was just sort of a first impression thing that like, like I can't do that.
I mean, it was fun.
Definitely fun.
But then I think once that happened, I was like, okay, let's get you home.
Where did that happen?
Were you guys like on the couch or was this in bed?
Kind of both.
like on the couch or was this in bed?
Kind of both.
OK.
I mean, I did make a comment that her piece, I could smell her pee. What?
Smells strong.
I mean, at this point, I'm just making this commentary on what's going on.
It did not smell bad.
OK, I know it did not smell bad. Okay. It did not.
It smelled.
It was like, it could definitely smell the scent of it.
It was like a stronger drinking.
It was just an observation.
Weird thing to point out.
Well, all he would you like to go out another day with Sierra will pay for it.
Um, yeah, would you like to go out another day with Sierra? We'll pay for it. Um, yeah, but I like Sierra.
You're definitely like a weekend only girl.
Like I want to like get, you know, wild and be entertained.
Uh, I'm not a weekend only girl just because I peed while I was drunk.
There's, um, I mean, there's nothing wrong with a weekend only girl.
No, there is no thanks.
So that's a yes, Ali.
I mean, yeah, if on the weekend you want to do something, they're going to pay for it.
I would global again.
I just put down some like.
I'm not really considering it because it was a lot of fun.
But no, I'll I'll find someone who is an everyday, a guy who wants an everyday of the week kind of girl.
Well, you know, if you're ever, you know, bored on a Saturday or something and you need somewhere to come and pee, you can be a call-preserver.
No, I'll find somewhere else to pee. Thank you.
Jubal's First Date Follow-Up
I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge
to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife Caroline.
He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me.
How far would he go to cover up what he'd done?
The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific.
And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward
allegations in the future.
Listen to Betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and
seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded
in 2024. You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy. But to me, voiceover is about understanding
yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal
process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.
Let me hear it.
Listen to voiceover on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I've seen a lot of stuff over 30 years, you know,
some very despicable crime and things that are kind of tough
to wrap your head around.
And this ranks right up there in the pantheon
of Rhode Island fraudsters.
I've always been told I'm a really good listener, right?
And I maximized that while I was lying. Listen to deep cover The Truth About Sarah on
the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of
times big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week I
would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up.
So now I only buy one.
Small but important ways.
From tech billionaires to the bond market to, yeah, banana pudding.
If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it.
I'm Max Chaston.
And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith.
So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
you get your podcasts.
This is an iHeart Podcast.