First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Smoothies, Unicorns, and a Squirrel Named Chaos

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Avery thought her bike path date with Rider was the start of something special—despite a few wipeouts and one epic squirrel-induced meltdown. But when Rider ghosted her, she turned to us for answers. Turns out, it wasn’t the squirrel that scared him off—it was a follow-up photo featuring unicorn underwear, smoothie vibes, and “snuggle headquarters” energy. Was Avery too whimsical or was Rider just allergic to fun? This First Date Follow-Up is one for the glitter dimension. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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ghosted by a guy named writer. So in a few minutes we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first Avery, how long has it been since you heard from writer? Yeah. So it's been about, oh gosh, it's, it's been about two weeks since I've heard from him. Um, we went on this really lovely date where we went biking, like actual biking and we

went to the park and on the trail and I was trying to play it cool. I was having a good time, but I gotta be honest, I haven't ridden a bike since eighth grade PE. So I definitely fell twice. Are you okay? Oh yeah, I'm good, I'm good. It may have even been three times, but. Oh no. But Ryder was so sweet.

He was a total gentleman. He helped me up and he laughed with me. Um, he laughed with me, not at me. And so I, I thought he was super charming and that it was going well. Uh, we stopped for smoothies afterwards. We sat by the lake. We talked for like over an hour. It was so sweet.

It was, it was just one of those like unexpected connection moments. And he was so chill, like writer is annoyingly attractive and confident, but not cocky at the same time. And when I spoke, he just, he listened. I like, he actually listened to me talk about everything, including my, my really weird little pottery side hustle that I have. I love how excited we get when somebody listens to us. We hear that a lot on these first date follow ups. And I mean, I get it, but it's just, it's

the simple things really that get us hooked. I know. I agree. And he, he just made me feel really cool and safe. And like I wasn't being judged even when I crashed into that sign. Oh no. judged even when I crashed into that sign. I haven't had that kind of connection in a very long time. So it felt spontaneous and easy and like not forced. And I'm not trying to plan a wedding or anything or rush anything, but I just want to know what happened.

Yeah. Do you know what could have happened? I mean, obviously it wasn't your falling cause he stuck around for a while after that. Sounds like we don't know that for a fact. But that would be terrible. Did anything else happen? Yeah guys, I don't know. But the one thing I can think of

is that there was this one moment where I panicked when a squirrel ran across the path. And I don't, I don't mean like a little panic. I full blown freaked the F out. It was not my best moment, but I, I tried to play it off. And so I screamed at the squirrel and we're like, not today, little demon. He laughed. He almost, like he laughed.

He seemed like he wasn't weirded out, you know, almost seemed like he was taking the joke with me. Um, and, uh, you know, he didn't seem like, Oh my gosh, this is a full grown adult woman having a meltdown over a squirrel on the bike path. So like it was a real meltdown, not just like a, ah. Yeah, I was not expecting that squirrel. Oh, okay. Okay.

So you think maybe that's what might be the reason that you are getting ghosted is just the reaction to the little demon squirrel? That's gotta be it, cause nothing else happened. Everything else went so beautifully. I can't think of anything else that would have thrown it off. Well, he fell off the bike also.

We'll see if that is the reason. We'll play a song, come back, and then call him and see if it tells why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date if you still want one, okay? Okay, perfect. All right, we'll get your first day follow up next. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone.

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Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys. Online at AdvocatesLaw.com. If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up, Avery is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ryder. So we're about to call him and see if he will tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date if she still wants one.

But first Avery, remind us about your date real quick before we call him. Sure, so about two weeks ago I had the most wonderful date with a guy named Ryder. We went biking on a bike trail and it was so much fun, but it was my first time biking in many, many years. So I did fall a few times, but he helped me back up. And other than that, we got smoothies and we had a really great time with a lot of great

talking and I have not heard from him since. The only thing that I can think of that might have scared him off is when we were biking a silly little squirrel ran out in front of me and I freaked out because I don't like rodents. But that's all I can think of. I texted him the next day and I thanked him for a great date and I sent him a picture of me smiling with a smoothie a few days later to be like, Oh, look, we did smoothies. But I have gotten nothing back from him. So I'd love to see what he says. All right. Are you ready for us to call him?

Let's do it. Okay. Here we go. Hello. Hi, may I speak to Ryder, please? Yeah, this is he. Hey, Ryder, how are you? This is the Jubal show. It's a radio show. Hi Ryder, I'm Nina. Hi, and I'm Victoria. Oh, hello.

What's up? How are you? Have you and my name is Jubal, by the way. I'm a radio show host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host.

I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I'm a radio host. I the Jubal Show. It's a radio show. Hi Ryder, I'm Nina. Hi, and I'm Victoria. Oh, hello. What's up? How are you? And my name is Jubal by the way. Have you ever listened to the Jubal Show?

Um, I think I have heard the show before, yeah. Okay. Well, we're calling you today because one of our listeners actually emailed us about you. Oh, wait. Is this about Avery? Oh you knew right away. Wow that's nice. Yeah. Well we do a segment called the first day follow up on our show. Maybe you already knew that I guess.

Where if you ghost somebody and they don't know why they can email us to get you on the phone and ask. So yes it is about Avery. Oh. Do you have a second to tell us why you're ghosting her? Yeah. I mean I figured this might come up eventually. Tanya Oh, really? What happened?

Avery I mean, she's beautiful, like drop dead gorgeous, but she sent me this photo and it was her in like unicorn underwear holding a smoothie and doing this weak face. I just don't I don't know. It was really bizarre. I mean, I opened it during lunch at work and I almost choked on my tortilla chips. So you didn't like it?

You really painted the picture, Ryder. It was like she was trying to be, it was like a six year old trying to be sexy. That's what it felt like. It was kinda creepy. It was creepy. She's trying to be like a six-year-old trying to be sexy. That's what it felt like It was creepy Yeah, a little bit like yeah to to I don't know It's not often you hear a dude say that with the getting a picture like that never actually Was it the unicorns that made it that way or was it the whole thing?

It was the whole thing. But yeah, the unicorns really pushed it over the edge Okay. All right. So that's the reason you're ghosting her is she creeped you out with trying to send you a sexy picture. Yeah, and there was some other stuff too. It's like, so she called her bed the snuggle headquarters. You know, like that's kind of cute. Like elementary school. I mean, she was also like sniffing, sipping her smoothie and being like, yummy, sippy. I mean she was also like sniffing or smoothing and being like

mmm yummy sippy I love it. Okay baby talkie. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Ryder thank you for being honest with us and tell us why you're ghosting her. Now I'll let you know that she's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you.

Maybe in baby talk. I don't know. Are you at Snuggle headquarters? Wait. Oh, shoot. So you didn't like the unicorns? For real? Like those are sexy. Hey, Avery. Hi. Oh my God.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that being playful is like a deal breaker now. I mean, it's not that you're being playful. It's just like, I don't know. I like, I barely knew you and all of a sudden I'm looking at you and like Lisa Frank lingerie holding a smoothie. I mean, you kind of treated it like it was a mic drop moment or something. I don't know. It was weird.

I was dropping a mic, a mic of joy and love and body positivity. And I mean, come on, that could have been yours. I mean, look, you are totally a vibe and you're very beautiful. I just don't think I'm like your vibe. You know, I live in the real world. You seem to live in like a glitter dimension where like squirrels call full like these meltdowns and smoothies have feelings. I don't know. It's weird. Oh, my gosh. OK. Well, I should have mentioned that I have a fear of rodents and squirrels

are basically rodents because I just I know I was a little bit dramatic, but it freaked me out. OK. And I don't know what you're talking about. Smoothies definitely have feelings. What does that mean? Well, you clearly don't have feelings or have any understanding of fun in life. I didn't realize you were this serious. It's such a bummer.

What does that mean? Oh, well he said earlier that like squirrels cause meltdown, cause meltdowns and smoothies don't have feelings. And I was just saying, whatever I do. I don't know. It's a little much for me. It just feels like I'm dealing with like elementary school. Whoa, writer, what would you like for a woman to send to you?

You know, just a perfect portrait in business casual, like fully covered. I don't know, maybe like regular lingerie without like unicorns and glitter and stuff. I don't know. Okay. Well, I guess I'll just find somebody who doesn't have emotional panic when they see sparkles. What? Well, Ryder, would you like another date with Avery who will pay for it? What? Well, Ryder, would you like another date with Avery?

We'll pay for it. No, no, I think I'm good. She's, she's one of a kind, but I think we live on different planets. Well, that's totally fine. You can have fun with a woman who likes to role play, um, like they're in business meetings or church or court or something boring like you. Wow. Look, you can tell the smoothie.

I said said sorry. Oh my gosh. Well, you're the one who's going to be sorry when you're bored and you're wishing for unicorns or you're wishing for something fun and sparkly because your next date is with a girl that's totally beige. Stop it. Jubal's first date follow up. DNA test proves he is not the father.

Now I'm taking the inheritance. Wait a minute, John, who's not the father? Well, Sam, luckily it's your not the father week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This author writes, my father-in-law is trying to steal the family fortune worth millions from my son, even though it was promised to us.

He's trying to give it to his irresponsible son, but I have DNA proof that could get the money back. Hold up, they could lose their family and millions of dollars? Yep. Find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. Most of all, his wife, Caroline.

He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens,

Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro, all combined. What happens when three brothers take on right-wing media and start winning? I find out on the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. We just want people to live their lives and be happy and be able to enjoy it without some, you know, lunatics screaming in their face every three seconds. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

You know who it is, Brandon Kyle Goodman. But this Pride Month, call me Messy Mother. get your podcasts. You know who it is, Brandon Kyle Goodman. But this Pride Month, call me Messy Mother. On my podcast, Tell Me Something Messy, I'm diving into all the juicy stories and sizzling hot tea that'll make you want to live your life liberated and free. Nothing is off the table for our messy geekies. Plus, I'll be joined by star-studded guests like T.S. Madison and dragging messy stories out of guests like the one and only Katya.

Oh, I can't wait to get messy with you. Listen to Tell Me Something Messy on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.