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Episode Date: September 30, 2021Josh thinks Elena isn't calling him back because she was "too comfortable" at his house. The Jubal Show finds out he's actually already in a relationship! Let us know what you think on social!Follow u...s at: @thejubalshow @jubalfresh @thatdreas @evanontheradioSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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First date follow-up.
Today, Josh is on the phone for a first date follow-up,
and he's not getting a call back from a woman named Elena.
And I guess they talked a bunch online before they met up,
so he feels like he's known her forever.
He said that in his email.
What's up, Josh? How are you?
Hey, guys. How you doing?
So how long have you actually known Elena?
It's been almost a week.
You know, we were, like
you said, chatting for a while on the app.
I thought it was going really well.
We've had a couple dates in person
already, which I thought went really well.
We went out to dinner the first time.
I'm sorry, dude. I can't do this for you.
It's a first date follow-up
and if you've been on a couple, sorry.
This is like a third date follow-up. Or a first date follow-up, and if you've been on a couple, sorry. This is like a third date follow-up.
Or a second date follow-up.
Yeah. No, because if he's gone on two, then it'd be
a third date follow-up. Third date follow-up. So, yeah, we don't do
third dates, only first dates. You know, only
the first
matters. You gotta read the fine print.
Sorry, Josh. I guess we're not gonna be able to do your first
date follow-up today. Good luck. Two is not a
winner, and three when no one remembers. Yeah.
Oh. Oh,
no, sorry. I just thought, I figured
if you weren't hearing from your person,
that was the criteria.
We're kidding. We're joking.
Yeah, we're joking. We can still do it.
All right. So it's been a week since
you heard from her. You talked a bunch.
And how many times have you reached out to her in that week?
I think I left it
at three. Three.
Oh, that's a decent amount.
That's not bad.
But if she's not responding at all, then there's something wrong.
Yeah.
Tell us what happened.
What do you think went wrong?
Well, first you went to dinner, right?
You were saying on the first date?
Yeah.
First day was dinner.
It was great.
I felt like the conversation was really easy and we both felt comfortable staying there
for an extra drink after the meal.
And then the second time she came over to my place, we watched a couple movies.
Oh, all right.
Look at you guys.
Yeah, and I thought it was, you know, I thought it was great.
I didn't get really any signs that Alana might be not into it.
You guys do any kissing? Or adult activities?
Hugging?
No, but we were pretty, we're sitting pretty close to each other on the couch.
I had some arm to arm contact.
Yeah.
If I was talking to someone for a long time and then finally went out with them, even
on a second date, I'd still probably be really nervous if I liked them a lot.
And your email said it feels like you've known her forever. So you're obviously really into her. I could see how you'd be nervous.
Yeah. I'm going to assume that maybe it's something that happened on the second date at your house,
which is why she's not calling you back. So was there anything that you can think of during the
night that happened that maybe turned her off? I mean, I am wondering if even though she accepted the invite to come over, if that in itself was too much and she realized afterwards, why was I hanging out at this guy's house like I'm a regular there?
But no, I mean, you know, we enjoyed the evening.
I just, I don't know.
I think maybe that might have been it, that it was too much too soon in hindsight.
Like moving too fast, you think?
Yeah. You guys didn't do
anything. Yeah, you said you only were like
sitting close to each other. No, but
she was like in my pantry and stuff.
It was like really comfortable.
I was like in your pants. That's funny.
Pantry, okay. I was like, it's going somewhere else.
It was really casual. It was like
my house is your house kind of thing.
And I just wonder if that casualness felt weird
realizing that it was the second date.
Is she recently single?
Yeah, actually she, yeah.
That might make sense then.
If she was chilling at your house
and feeling so comfortable
that she can go through your pantry
and it might just feel too
comfortable and remind her being in a relationship again she might not want to be in a relationship
like that so maybe she got scared i don't know possibly i'm just i'm surprised i didn't get any
of that in person any of those signs i feel like it's something else trying to speculate is that
the only thing you can think of the chat slowed down a bit since we started seeing each other in
person which kind of makes sense,
right?
There was,
there was a lot of that beforehand and not as much.
I wouldn't think that would be normal.
I don't know.
Well,
I mean,
we just talked about a lot in person,
so I don't know.
Maybe,
maybe that's why.
I don't know.
Cause I feel like if the chat slowed down too,
I think if you guys were getting more into each other,
there would be more texting, but
we'll play a song, come back, and then we'll
call her and see if we can figure out why she's ghosting you, okay?
Okay. Thanks, Chase.
We'll get your first date follow-up next.
It's The Jubal Show. If you're just joining us
for today's first date follow-up,
Josh is on the phone, and Josh
sent us an email because he's not getting a call
back from a woman named Elena,
and he feels like
he's known her forever except now she's a stranger for a week she hasn't responded to him in a week
since their last date they talked a bunch I guess on an app when they met and then they've had two
dates the last date was at his place they watched some movies hung out no no official Netflix and
chill just went into the pantry though yeah she went pantry. Well, I'm sure she was hungry.
Yeah, they ate.
They sat next to each other.
No hot, steamy action.
But the only reason that Josh can think of that she's ghosting him is because he thinks
that maybe she felt a little too comfortable at his place.
And that was awkward for her.
And that doesn't sound like a really good reason.
So we don't think that's right.
So we're going to call her right now and see if we can figure it out.
All right, Josh, you ready to go?
I cannot wait for Atlanta to go on a third date with me.
All right.
There we go.
All right.
Here we go.
I'm a dollar number right now.
Hello?
Hi, may I speak to Elena?
Yeah, this is Elena.
Elena, how are you?
This is The Jubal Show.
My name's Jubal.
Mine's Alex Fresh.
Mine's English Evan.
And The Jubal Show is a radio show you may or may not have heard of.
Have you heard?
No, I'm sorry.
I don't know who this is.
Okay, that's fine.
Well, we know who you are.
Why are you calling?
We're calling because we do a segment on our show called the First Date Follow-Up.
That's where if you go out on a date with someone
and then you ghost them,
they can email us to get you on the phone
to try to figure out what happened.
And we got an email about you
from someone who listens to the show.
Okay. Would you have
any idea who we're talking about?
Yeah, it's a guy
named Josh. Is Josh the
only guy that you're currently ghosting?
Uh, yeah.
Correct.
Congratulations. It is Josh.
You're correct. Josh emailed us
and he wants to know why you won't call or text him back.
Okay.
Did he tell you, like, about the date?
Yeah, he told us that you guys went to dinner on your first date,
and for your second date that you went to his house.
He told us that they were very good dates.
He liked you a lot.
I mean, there's nothing
really dramatic there. It's not like
the dates are fine.
I'll tell you.
Let me tell you what he thought and then
you can say if he's right or wrong.
Okay, because we talked to him. He did. He said
he really liked you a lot and he sounds kind of
bummed out that you have stopped talking to him
out of the blue.
And he thinks the reason is because when you were at his house watching movies, you were very comfortable there.
Was he correct?
No, actually.
It was just kind of, I didn't mean to, like, ghost him for any reason.
It's just, so we've gone on two dates, and it's just really hard to get a hold of him
um so even though it's like two dates and like talking on the app before
it just it was like pulling teeth like i don't know if he's busy or what but it was like so
if you text him does it take him just a long time to respond? Yeah, or even to make and confirm plans.
It's like, I want to do better, great, let's do it, make plans ahead and do that.
So do you feel like he's making excuses to not make plans with you?
Yeah.
I don't know what's going on with him.
It sounds like he has a girlfriend to me.
Which is exactly what I thought.
So I was kind of like, you know what?
I'm not invested enough yet
in this. Yeah. You don't want to be
anyone's side piece.
Exactly. And I felt like
you know, like if you want to
see me, then at least make
an effort as well.
And so I felt like
it was almost, it wasn't that he wasn't
uninterested, but like wasn't
making an effort to like make more plans with me so I kind of just called it and you know what's
funny Elena is that when you pulled back and obviously you ghosted him then he emailed us
so he was like you know he wanted what he couldn't have yeah yeah and then like on our you know the
second date I was at his house we were watching a movie, and he didn't even try and kiss me or pull a move.
So I don't even know if he's into me that way at all yet.
I do think he's into you because he emailed us to try to get you on the phone
and find out why you're not getting back to him.
Thank you for telling us.
We should ask him if that is the reason.
You think so? I do. I think we should. Elena, telling us. We should ask him if that is the reason. You think so?
I think we should.
Elena, do you think we should ask him?
Should we just ask him?
Yeah, I mean, you guys, you can if you want to.
And guess what?
It's super easy to do that right now
because he's actually on the other line listening
and wants to talk to you.
Oh my goodness.
Hi, Elena.
I just feel a little embarrassed
because
she's right. I've been hard to make
plans. It's just been very
busy and my checking
in, you know, Elena, those three
messages and I left it at that because I
didn't want to bother you was not to
make plans but just to like say hey
and see what you're doing
because you know the next couple weeks is just really tough um so you're not in a relationship
no here's the deal here's the deal i didn't make a move and i was nervous because i am
was waiting to tell you that i'm in an open relationship and wanted to feel this thing out before I sprung that on you
to see if you would even be interested in being with a guy in an open relationship.
Oh, my gosh.
Whoa.
Okay.
You could have told us that at the beginning.
You probably should have told her.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
You should have told her.
You should have told me that from the beginning
because we've been talking for
a while and we've been on two dates and there was plenty of time for you to tell
me this because it could have been a deal breaker. It is a deal breaker for me.
I don't want to be with someone who's in an open relationship.
I want an exclusive relationship.
And I do agree that you're not making a move on me because of that,
but I didn't know why
well and the reason honestly that I had trouble making a third date plan was you ate the goldfish
in the pantry and my girlfriend was like who ate these and I had to explain this whole thing if we
had our date at the place but it's not a big deal and like no way I'm still dealing with that Elena
did you not see like could you not tell that a girl lived there?
I couldn't.
Like, there wasn't anything specific.
Like, no pictures or anything, obviously.
But I had a feeling. I just didn't know what the situation was.
So you didn't go in their bedroom?
No.
Like, I didn't go into his bedroom.
Can you see, though, that that's kind of wasting people's time?
Yeah, I get that.
Elena, would you like to go on another date with Josh?
We'll pay for it.
Josh, I think you're great.
I'm not interested in seeing you again.
Well, if you, you know, things change, I'll let you know
and you let me know and
hope to see you around.
Well, it stands true. All the good
ones are taken.
Google's first gate follow-up.
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Well, the election is in
the homestretch, right in time
for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing
in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But
we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne
the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all
about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app,
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