First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - This First Date Follow Up Open For Interpretation!

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

Josh had two really good dates with Elana, and now she isn't responding back to him! Josh calls into The Jubal Show to see what is going on! Jubal Fresh calls Elana and finds out why she won't OPEN up! Let us know what you think on social!Follow us at: @thejubalshow @jubalfresh @thatdreas @evanontheradioSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow the Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. First date follow-up. Today, Josh is on the phone for a first date follow-up, and he's not getting a call back from a woman named Elena. And I guess they talked a bunch online before they met up, so he feels like he's not getting a call back from a woman named Elena. And I guess they talked a bunch online before they met up. So he feels like he's known her forever. He said that in his email.

What's up, Josh? How are you? Hey guys, how you doing? So how long have you actually known Elena? It's been almost a week. You know, we were, like you said, chatting for a while on the app. I thought it was going really well. We've had a couple dates in person already, um, which I thought went really well. We went out to dinner the first time. I'm sorry, dude. I can't do this for you. It's a first date follow up.

And if you've been on a couple, sorry. This is like a third date follow up or a second date follow up. Yeah. No, because if he's gone on two, then it'd be a third date follow up. Third date follow up. So yeah, we don't do third dates, only first dates. Only one, only the first. Yeah. No, because if he's gone on two, then it'd be a third date follow-up. Third date follow-up. So yeah, we don't do third dates, only first dates. Only the first matters.

You gotta read the fine print. Sorry, Josh. I guess we're not gonna be able to do your first date follow-up today. Good luck. Two is not a winner and three when no one remembers. Yeah.

Oh, no, sorry. I just thought, I figured if you weren't hearing from your person, that was the criteria. Okay. We're kidding. It's fine. We're joking.

Yeah, we're joking. We can still do it. All right. All right. So it's been a week since you heard from her. You talked a bunch. And how many times have you reached out to her in that week? I think I left it at three.

Three. Oh, that's a decent amount. That's not bad. But if she's not responding at all, then there's something wrong. Yeah. Tell us what happened. What do you think went wrong? Well, first you went to dinner, right? You were saying on the first date. Yeah. First day was dinner. It was great. I felt like the conversation was really easy and we both felt comfortable staying there for an extra drink after the meal. Um,

and then the second time she came over to my place, we watched a couple movies. Oh, all right. Look at you guys. And I thought it was, you know, I thought it was great. I didn't get really any signs that Alana might be not into it. You guys do any kissing or adult activities? Hugging? Netflix and chilling, guys. No, but we were sitting pretty close to each other on the couch.

I had some arm-to-arm contact, yeah. If I was talking to someone for a long time and then finally went out with them, even on a second date, I'd still probably be really nervous if I liked them a lot. And your email said it feels like you've known her forever, so you're obviously really into her. I could see how you'd be nervous. Yeah. I'm going to assume that maybe it's something that happened on the second day to your house, which is why she's not calling you back. So

was there anything that you can think of during the night that happened that maybe turned her off? I mean, I am wondering if even though she accepted the invite to come over, if that in itself was too much and she realized afterwards, why was I hanging out at this guy's house? Like I'm a regular there. But no, I mean, you know,

we enjoyed, we enjoyed the evening. I just, I don't know. I think maybe that might've been it, that it was too much too soon in hindsight. Like moving too fast, you think?

Yeah. You guys didn't do anything. You said you only were like sitting close to each other. No, but she was like in my pantry and stuff. I was like, in your pants. That's funny. Pantry, okay. I was like, he's going somewhere else. It was really casual. It was like, my house is your

house kind of thing. And I just wonder if that casualness felt weird realizing that it was the second date. Is she recently single? Yeah, actually. that casualness felt weird realizing that it was the second date. Has she, is she recently single? Yeah. Okay. She,

yeah. That might make sense then. If she was chilling at your house and feeling so comfortable that she can go through your pan tree and it's, you know, it might just feel too comfortable and remind her of being in a relationship again. She might not want to be in a relationship like that. So maybe she got scared.

I don't know. Possibly. I'm just, I'm surprised I didn't get any of that in person, any of those times. I feel like it's something else. I'm trying to speculate. Is that the only thing you can think of? The chat slowed down a bit since we started seeing each other in person, which kind of makes sense, right?

There was, there was a lot of that beforehand and not as much. I wouldn't think that would be normal. I don't know. Well, I mean, we just wouldn't think that would be normal. I don't know. Well, I mean, we just talked about a lot in person, so I don't know. Maybe that's why. I don't know, because I feel like if the chat slowed down too, I think if you guys were getting more into each other, there would be more texting.

But we'll play a song, come back, and then we'll call her and see if we can figure out why she's ghosting you, okay? Okay. Thanks, dude. You're just joining us for today's first date follow-up. Josh is on the phone and Josh sent us an email because he's not getting a call back from a woman named Elena. And he feels like he's known her forever. Except now she's a stranger for a week.

She hasn't responded to him in a week since their last date. They talked a bunch, I guess, on an app when they met. And then they've had two dates. The last date was at his place. They watched some movies, hung out. No official Netflix and chill. She went into the pantry, though. Yeah, she went into his pantry. Well, I'm sure she was hungry. Yeah, they ate. They sat next to

each other. No hot, steamy action, but the only reason that Josh can think of that she's ghosting him is because he thinks that maybe she felt a little too comfortable at his place. And that was awkward for her. And that doesn't sound like a really good reason. So we don't think that's right. So we're going to call it right now and see if we can figure it out.

All right, Josh, you ready to go? I cannot wait for Atlanta to go on a third date with me. All right. There we go. All right. Here we go. One dollar number right now. Hello?

Hi, may I speak to Elena? Yeah, this is Elena. Elena, how are you? This is The Jubal Show. My name's Jubal. Mine's Alex Fresh. Mine's English Evan. And The Jubal Show is a radio show you may or may not have heard of.

Have you heard? No, I'm sorry. I don't know who this is. Okay, that's fine. Well, we know who you are. Why are you calling? We're calling because we do a segment on our show called the First Date Follow-Up. That's where if you go out on a date with someone and then you ghost them,

they can email us to get you on the phone to try to figure out what happened. And we got an email about you from someone who listens to the show. Okay. Would you have any idea who we're talking about? Yeah, it's a guy named Josh. Is Josh the only guy that you're currently ghosting? Uh, yeah. Correct.

Congratulations. It is Josh. You're correct. Josh emailed us and he wants to know why you won't call or text him back. Okay. Um, did he tell like, about the date? Yeah, he told us that you guys went to dinner on your first date, and for your second date that you went to his house. He told us that they were very good dates.

He liked you a lot. I mean, there's nothing, like, dramatic there. It's not like the dates are fine. I'll tell you. Let me tell you what he thought, and then you can say if he's right or wrong, okay? Because we talked to him. He did. He said he really liked you a lot, and he sounds kind of bummed out that you have stopped talking to him out of the blue.

And he thinks the reason is because when you were at his house watching movies, you were very comfortable there. Was he correct? No, actually. It was just kind of, I didn't mean to, like, ghost him for any reason. It's just, so we've gone on two dates. And it's just really hard to get a hold of him. So even though it's, like, two dates and, like, talking on the app before, it just, it was like pulling teeth.

Oh my God. Like, I don't know if he was busy or what, but it was like. So if you text him, does it take him just a long time to respond? Yeah. Or even to like make and confirm plans. It's like, I want to see each other. Great. Let's do it.

You know, make plans ahead and do that. But yeah. So do you feel like he's making excuses to not make plans with you yeah like i i don't know what's going on with him it sounds like he has a girlfriend to me which is exactly what i thought so i was kind of like you know what i'm not invested enough yet in this yeah you don't want to be anyone's side piece. Exactly. And I felt like, you know, like if you want to see me, then at least make an effort as well. And so I felt like it was almost, it wasn't that he wasn't uninterested, but like wasn't making an effort to like make more plans with me. So I kind of just called it. And you know what's funny, Elena, is that when you pulled back and obviously you ghosted him then he

emailed us so he was like you know he wanted what he couldn't have. Yeah. And then like on our you know the second date I was at his house and we were watching a movie and he didn't even like try and kiss me or you know like pull a move so

I don't even know if he's into me that way at all yet. I do think he's into you because he emailed us to try to get you on the phone and find out why you're not getting back to him. Thank you for telling us. We should ask him if that is the reason. You think so?

I think we should. Elena, do you think we should ask him? Should we just ask him? Yeah, I mean, you guys, you can if you want to. And guess what? It's super easy to do that right now because he's actually on the other line listening and wants to talk to you oh my goodness

is he on the phone I just feel a little embarrassed because she's right I've been hard to make plans but it's just been very busy and my checking in, you know, Elena, those three messages and I left it at that because I didn't want to bother you was not to make plans, but just to like say, Hey, and see what you're doing. Cause you know, the next couple of weeks is just really tough. So you're not in a relationship? No. Here's the deal.

Here's the deal. I didn't make a move and I was nervous because I was waiting to tell you that I'm in an open relationship and wanted to feel this thing out before I sprung that on you to see if you would even be interested in being with a guy in an open relationship. Oh, my God. Whoa. Okay. You could have told us that at the beginning. You probably should have told her. Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

You should have told her. You should have told me that from the beginning because we've been talking for a while and we've been on two dates and there was plenty of time for you to tell me this because it could have been a deal breaker. It is a deal breaker for me. I don't want to be with someone who's in an open relationship. I want an exclusive relationship. And I do agree that you're not making a move on me because of that, but I didn't know why.

And the reason, honestly, that I had trouble making a third date plan was you ate the goldfish in the pantry. And my girlfriend was like, who ate these? And I had to explain this whole thing if we had our date at the place, but it's not a big deal. And like, no, I'm still dealing with that. Elena, did you not see like, could you not tell that a girl lived there? I couldn't like there wasn't anything specific, like no pictures or anything, obviously. But I had a feeling.

I just didn't know what the situation was. So you didn't go in their bedroom? No, I didn't go into his bedroom. Can you see, though, that that's kind of wasting people's time? Yeah, I get that. Elena, would you like to go on another date with Josh? We'll pay for it. Josh, I think pay for it.

Josh, I think you're great. I'm not interested in seeing you again. Well, if you you know, things change, I'll let you know and you let me know and hope to see you around. Well, it

stands true. All the good ones are taken. Hey everyone, it stands true. All the good ones are taken. Hey, everyone. It's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun,

thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to The Daily Show, ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping markets and the economy are often hiding behind a blur of numbers. So that's why we created The Big Take from

Bloomberg Podcasts, to give you the context you need to make sense of it all. Every day in just 15 minutes, we dive into one global business story that matters. You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.