First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - To Catch A Cheater PART 4: Taylor, Matt and Samantha - The Cheater Who Sent Us on a Week-Long Wild Goose Chase

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

On this episode of The Jubal Show’s “To Catch a Cheater,” a simple suspicion turns into the most chaotic investigation of the year. What starts as one relationship quickly unravels into something absolutely unbelievable—multiple cities, multiple stories, and more secrets than anyone expected. Think your partner might be up to something shady? The Jubal Show has you covered. In this explosive segment, The Jubal Show helps suspicious lovers uncover the truth by setting up the ultimate loyalty test. We call their significant other, posing as a grocery store’s floral department offering a free bouquet. You know.. a War of the Roses. The catch? Who they choose to send the flowers to—and what they write on the card—could reveal everything. Will it be a romantic gesture for their partner or a shocking betrayal? Get ready for twists, surprises, and jaw-dropping confrontations as we help our listeners get the answers they deserve. Subscribe to The Jubal Show's To Catch A Cheater / War of the Roses.➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  New boostSupport the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time to catch a cheater. Only on the Jebel Show. And only on the new hits 106.1. There's only one. ho, ho, ho this holiday season, and it's the cheater that we're trying to track down. Dang. It's the Juble Show. And we asked you guys to vote on

what was the best to catch a cheater of the year and everybody agreed that it's the one that took us an entire week to track down the cheater in Arizona. Good, because that was a lot of work. He had a wife and a girlfriend, neither one of them knew about each other, and then we found out there's a third person in Arizona

that we didn't know about. Bro, how much time does this guy have? So because you guys asked for it, we're reliving that moment, but Also, we have an update and we were able to get the wife and the girlfriend on the phone and also we're able to track down the woman in Arizona that he has been cheating with. Dude's got a stressful life. Yes, very stressful. And we'll have all three of them on the phone tomorrow at this time.

So to get all caught up because you guys wanted to hear it again, here is the craziest to catch a cheater of the year. And make sure you're here tomorrow at this same time so you can hear us check in with them and get an update. It's the Jubal Show. It's time for To Catch a Cheater. It's been a week. Seriously. This is day four of us trying to get this guy Matt on the phone. So real quick, here's what happened.

We first did A To Catch a Cheater with Taylor and Matt. And this is how that went. So Matt and I have been together for like three years, but only have been living together for like six months. And he recently got a job promotion that have had him travel a lot. And he came on selling like perfume. And now I'm concerned. No, Taylor, like, I'm not cheating on you.

Like, this isn't anything devious that I'm trying to do. You know, like, I love you and I want to be with you forever. And, you know, I know we'll get through this a little moment. Okay, I'm just, I'm so sorry. I'm thinking that you would have cheated on me. And then, right after we hung up with Taylor, this happened. Uh, Samantha? Hi, yes.

I've been trying to call in this, like, entire time. Okay. Uh, what's that? So, that sounds, I, identical to my, no, that, that is my husband. What? That's my, I'm like, I'm so confused. I'm shaking.

I don't know what's going on. I don't know why my husband's on the radio with you guys. So the call that we just did with. Yeah, and he's saying he's married to this woman. I don't understand. That's my husband. And then we got the two of them on the phone. They compared notes and it's the same guy.

Mm-hmm. So yesterday we tried to call. him and have them confront him, but then this happened. Hey, I was looking for Matt. Oh, Matt must be the owner of this phone. I work at Jamba Juice, and somebody left his phone here maybe an hour ago, and so I was answering it, hoping it was a person. Jamba Juice in what city?

Tucson, Arizona, Campbell Plaza. Oh. What the f*** is Matt doing in Arizona? So now, we don't even know why he's in Tucson. Why? When he told Samantha, his wife of five years that he's in California and Taylor, his girlfriend of three years that he's in New York, he's in Tucson. And so we set it up today where we know we'll get him on the phone because this happened. A lot of people want follow-ups to catch a cheaters, especially when they're happy.

They want to check in on the happy couple. Right. I email him today. Say, hey, we want to do a follow-up with you. That way he knows he's talking to the show. He's going to answer the phone. We want to get you on and we want to talk about how great it is. to celebrate non-cheaters.

Oh, yeah. Get him on. So producer Brad sent the email saying that we're going to check in with him and Taylor. And Taylor, you're there, right? Yeah. Okay, so Taylor's there. Samantha, you're there. Yep.

Okay. And producer Brad sent the email seems all good. Yeah, I heard back. Everything. Okay. All good to go. Okay. All right.

So we're about to call him and do a cute little check-in to see how things are going. and then let you talk to him for a little bit Taylor and then I think it should go like Taylor you can bring on Samantha whenever you feel like and then you guys can do whatever you want go at him yeah are you guys ready how do you feel I feel I'm ready to just let him have it like I have all this energy and like I've been

you know haven't been able to tell him about it so like I'm I'm ready to just like hear what he has to say and just he is going to be shook I'm dying to hear what he has to say too because it's going to be hilarious I mean this dude has been cheating on his wife for five years with his girlfriend of three years

he's told him he's a different place he's in Tucson we know all that and he's about to find out that both of them know everything okay you guys ready yeah yeah all right we're gonna play a song come back and make our call and you're to catch cheater next

to catch a cheater only on the jubel show right in the middle of to catch a cheater and if you're just joining us this has been a four day long thing of us trying to get this guy Matt on the phone because we did it to catch a cheater with Taylor, his girlfriend of three years. They just moved in together six months ago

the other day and seemed like everything was fine. Right after we hung up with Taylor, Samantha called in and Samantha is the dude's wife. She's like, I recognize that voice. That's my husband of five years. We got the two of them on the phone. They compared notes and it is that guy. And yesterday we tried to call him with both of them

and he told his wife that he's in California in San Diego and he told Taylor that he's in New York. but we called and he left his phone at a jamba juice in Arizona like what out of all the places to get caught so he's in Tucson Arizona right now but we told him today we wanted to get him back on the phone so we could do it check in a little update with him and Taylor because it was so cute so cute

yeah so first when we call him Taylor we'll just play it off like it's the little update thing and then you can bring on Samantha whenever you want okay okay all right You ready? You guys ready? Ready. Yeah. Here we go.

Hello. Hey, Matt. What's up? Hi, Matt. Thanks for getting back on the phone with us, man. Yeah, sure thing. So you haven't listened back to the, to catch a cheer that we did with you from the other day or anything like that? No.

No, no, I've been busy. Yeah. Well, we've gotten so many people that we're like. Like, that was so cute. And everyone wants to why we check in and get people back on the phone. So Taylor is on the phone, too. I know you're out of town, but Taylor's on the phone. Okay.

Yeah. Hi, Matt. Hey, Jay. How's going on? Oh, you know, it's been interesting without you here. Yeah. You know, we wanted to get you both on the phone so we, you know, you can just get a little update on how things have been since that to catch a cheater. Matt, how have things been for you since that to catch a cheater?

I feel so much better. I feel like we got a lot closer over all of that. so yeah so you feel like things are just like open and honest and all of that yeah like i feel like it built trust and you know i'm so glad we did that babe yeah babe so glad and yeah like i've been out of town on this work trip thing and babe i'm just really ready to get home and see you so yeah i can't wait and you know i am very excited for you to be back and i can't wait but i also would really like to know why you're in Tucson. What in Tucson? What do you mean? You're told me you were in New York. You

Yeah, I'm not in Tucson, babe. I'm in New York, just like I told you. Well, the job of a person from yesterday who answered your phone that you left in Tucson must have been very confused about what subway stop there off of then. Wait, what? Yeah, and you know, also while you're in Tucson, I made a new friendship. In fact, feel like you might actually know her okay what are you getting at it hi honey do you recognize that voice um i hope you're having yeah do you recognize my new friend samantha uh you know your wife of five years voice hopefully you can recognize that on the phone like what the fs going on guys what are you doing in tucon why are you in tucon what do you i'm not in tucon what are you guys

talking about. What are you doing? What are you doing in Tucson? Yes. Why? Why the fuck are you there? I, what do you mean? I'm not in Tucson. You told me, girlfriend, you call her wife. Sam, I don't even, I don't even really know who this Taylor is. Oh my gosh. Are you serious? Yeah. Matt, I literally heard that to catch a cheater that you did the first day. That's why I called in because I recognize you. So yeah, you know her. You can't lie to my face. I mean, not really. You were on the to catch a cheater talking about how much you loved her and everything else, and that's how your wife heard it. You just said you feel closer to tell her, like minutes ago. Matt, you're a cop.

Oh, my God. I mean, I guess nowadays all you have to be is accused and like no proof needed for anything. Are you? Oh, my God. This is exactly what you do. What the fuck are you doing in Tucson, Matt? You still haven't answered the question. Like, how do you guys even know I'm in Tucson anyway?

What? What does that even matter right now? You're so hot, dude. Unbelievable. No, I said, how do they... Your time's up, Matt. We literally called your phone, and a Jamba Juice employee answered and said they were in Tucson, Arizona. But you can't sit there and lie like that.

You're in Tucson. Just admit it. Okay, I'm in Tucson. Okay. We know. Oh, my God. Why are you in Tucson? Why are you there?

Why did you lie about that? I'm just, okay, this is a little detour. No, no, no, no. You answer, you're stalling. You're stalling to make up a lie. Answer. Now, why are you in Tucson? Okay.

I, yes, I am in Tucson, and I have been shooting on you. Very sorry. We know that. Yes, and I've been talking to someone out here. What? What? Yeah, but it means, it literally means nothing. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh. Does she think you live with her, too? Uh, yes. Been living with her for about a year. What? What? Oh, my God. I'm sorry, I'm laughing, but this is insane.

Matt, you don't have any children I don't know about. No, no kids. I like, I don't believe you at this point. I don't believe a single thing you said. Does Tucson know that you're married and have a girlfriend also? No, like, I don't want to talk about that right now. Well, you know what we are going to talk about is you can just stay in Tucson because you will not have anything at my place if you try to come back.

It's gone. What? Yeah. I'll go my stuff out. All of your shit is on the lawn. Okay? So don't ring the doorbell. No, I'm getting a divorce from you.

You're unreal. You waited to the last 10 years of my life. I will never forgive you for this. We can't work it out. Your shit on the lawn. Come on, come on, Samantha. You've embarrassed me. You've embarrassed me.

If you throw my stuff out on the lawn, like for real, like, I will, I will get a lawyer. Oh, my God. I'd like to see you try. I'd like, I literally have this entire recording of evidence against you that you're a serial cheer that probably has children all over the country. And I'd like just see you try. I'd like to see you try. What money are you going to hire a lawyer with without mine?

Like, fuck you. You know what? I'm going to go. And thank you guys for completely fucking up my life. I appreciate it. We did. Far bad. Unbelievable.

He's gone. Hey, Samantha and Taylor, he hung up. I'm so sorry we would mess up his life like that. Oh my gosh. I can't. The nerve. I mean, that's crazy. He's a victim.

He's always a victim. I think we should go. I apologize and we'll fly to Tucson and see his face. I want to find out who it is in Tucson. I was going to say, yeah. See what other cities he's penetrated. I wonder if she'll ever know. Like, I want, you know, I like want a warner.

I would do the due diligence and find her, honestly. You want to really see your life blow up? This is your fault, bro. Taylor, I want to say that this is like just a terrible circumstance, but I'm sorry this happened to you too. And I'm sorry that he did that to you while having a wife. And maybe, well, I need to hire a lawyer now, but maybe we can get drinks and figure out how to further take him down. I'm also super sorry that happened to you and that I'm the other woman.

But if you need a witness on that stand, you know who to call also. Oh, man. Well, at least we finally got the truth. Thank you. I'm pretty good at cyber stocking. So if you need me, I'm right here, okay? I'm just like relieved that it's like all out in the open now and like there's other people and he can't like make me think I'm yeah you're not crazy like makes me think I'm crazy

and and I know I like now I know and yeah I'm not wasting any more time on this guy good um I will actually take you up on that cyber shocking thing and we will save you a seat at that drink table done I got you girls Show's to catch a cheater. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop.

His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it.

When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there

about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season of Family Secrets.

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