First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - What did he completely miss on their date?
Episode Date: April 7, 2023First Date Follow Up is when we get an email from someone who went on a date and the other person isn't calling back. We get that other person on the phone to see why they're "ghosting".One of our lis...teners is on the phone for a First Date Follow Up because he is not getting a call back from a date he went on, and he has no idea why! He can't think of ANYTHING that went wrong during the date, so now we are here to help him and see why he is not getting a call back!Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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First day follow-up.
Aiden is on the phone today for a first day follow-up.
He's getting ghosted by a woman named Marissa and he wants to find out why.
What's up, Aiden? How are you?
I'm doing okay. How are you?
Not too bad. Before we get into your date and before we try to figure out why you might be getting ghosted by Marissa,
how long has it been since you last talked to Marissa?
Oh, it's been a couple weeks now.
A couple weeks. All right. And how many times have you tried to get a hold of her in that couple of weeks?
Just twice. I'm not, you know, I'm not creeper or anything like that.
Okay. Good for you, Aiden. I feel like that's some serious self-control.
But why do you think that she's not hitting you back?
I have no idea. I thought things went really well on the first date. I mean, we had a few drinks,
had a few laughs, talked about, you know, what we did for life, what we had did for fun.
She was very flirty with me. I thought things were going really well. And then at the end of
the night, you know, we were, she seemed very happy with how things went and I waited. And then at the end of the night, you know, we were, she seemed very happy with how things went.
And I waited.
And then, you know, the next day I sent her a text and was just like, hey, you want to go out again?
And nothing.
And then a week later, I was like, you know, let's, you know, I was like, I liked her.
Let's try again.
And I sent her another one and still nothing. Is there anything that happened like at the end of the date or in the middle of it that you think may have been a turnoff for her?
I don't know. I don't think so. I'm pretty good with reading people. And I mean, she was very
engaged in the conversation. I mean, I tried to make it as much about her as she was trying to
make it about me in the conversation
so that it wasn't completely one-sided.
Plus, I was very interested in her, so I wanted to know more.
Yeah.
And she seemed like she was having a good time.
She did.
I mean, at any point where, you know, between ordering a round of drinks or anything else,
she could have easily ended things.
And she didn't.
It just kind of took its natural course.
What I'm hearing from you, Aiden, the fact that she stayed the whole time,
you think she had a good time?
Like, did she seem like it, though?
Yeah, like, I mean, she wasn't on her phone.
Like, you know, there are times where you're out with someone
and they're constantly looking at their phone or answering with a one-word answer.
They're not really getting into a conversation, but that wasn't the case.
And again, anytime I offered to order another round,
she seemed like that was cool and we ordered another round.
That is exactly what I was going to ask though.
Like was she always like ready to order another round?
Like right when that drink was done, she was like, yes, let's do this again.
Or did she like wait for you?
No, we were drinking, I'd say, at about the same pace because we were also talking roughly the same amount.
So we were going at about the same pace.
And there's nothing you can think of that happened that could be a reason that she would ghost you?
No.
And I mean, as far as like the drinks go, she did order maybe one or two more than I did just because I was driving.
So, you know, there were the couple times.
But I mean, even then, at any point when she realized I wasn't drinking anymore, she could have been like, oh, OK, I guess I'm done, too.
Let's go.
OK.
She didn't. She ordered another.
OK. And you didn't. did you judge her about that?
Did you say, really, you're ordering another?
I'm having water right now.
I know, that has made me feel uncomfortable in the past.
No, I'm not like that.
And again, I was enjoying the company,
so someone having a couple more drinks than me
is not a deal breaker.
I mean, you actually sound quite lovely, and I feel like you didn't do anything wrong at this point.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's see if we can figure it out then.
We'll play a song, come back and then call her and try to find out why she's ghosting you and see if you want another date after you hear the reason why.
Okay.
All right.
Sounds good.
All right.
We'll get your first day follow up next.
Just joining us for today's first day follow up. Aiden is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Marissa and has no idea why. We're about to call her and see if we can figure out why she's ghosting him and see if Aiden wants another date after he hears why he's getting ghosted. Aiden, real quick, though, before we call her, refresh everybody's memory and recap your date for us. Yeah, so we went out, had some drinks, had some fun.
And then the next day I sent her a text.
Didn't get a reply.
Waited a few days, sent another one and still no reply.
And you have no idea why?
None that I can think of.
We just think maybe it's because you let her order two more drinks than you.
Yeah, and she thinks you were judging her.
Right, right.
We all made that up in our heads, so let's find out.
All right, I'm going to dial the phone number right now, okay?
Okay. All right, here we go.
Hello?
Hi, may I speak to Marissa, please?
Yes, this is she.
Hi, Marissa, how are you?
My name is Jubal, and I'm calling from a radio show, and it's called The Jubal Show.
He's not by himself, either. I'm Nina, here, too. Hi and I'm calling from a radio show and it's called The Jubal Show. He's not by himself either. I'm Nina here too.
Hi, I'm Victoria.
And that's Victoria.
Yeah, Brad too in the background.
He's over here as well, so yeah.
Hi.
Hello everyone.
How's it going?
Good. I mean, I think. Did I win something or am I getting called out for something on the radio?
We do a segment on our show and it's called The First Date Follow-Up.
That's where if you go out on a date with someone
and then you end up ghosting them, that person
can email us to get you on the phone and ask
what happened. And so we got an email about
you from somebody that you're ghosting.
All right. Yep.
Okay. So you say that like
you know who you're ghosting.
Ghosting is a very common thing.
It's happened to me. I've done it to others
before. Like it sucks, but like I don't know. It's kind of me. I've done it to others before. Like, it sucks,
but like, I don't know.
It's kind of just how it is now,
you know?
Okay.
But then, you know,
you can't help but wonder
why you're getting ghosted.
So do you know
who the person is
that we're talking about?
Gosh, it's been weeks.
What's his name?
You know his name.
I know.
I watch your show
or listen to your show.
Oh, no.
Aiden.
Aiden.
Oh.
Okay. Okay, well, then you understand It's Aiden. Oh. Yeah.
Okay, well, then you understand
that we're calling
because he feels like
he's being ghosted
and we just want to know why.
All right.
I already seem like
a terrible person,
so why not?
Well, I'll just be honest.
Like, I ghosted him
because, like,
oh, I didn't like
the way he dressed
and I know that's really shallow
and petty-sounding.
You didn't like
the way he dressed? Okay. Yeah, like shallow and petty sounding you didn't like the way he dressed okay yeah like aiden his like clothing style is just like super casual and
comfortable like he likes to wear jeans and sneakers and t-shirts and like very clearly
doesn't really pay attention to like fashion trends and stuff like that which like here to
each their own but like i'm a very fashion forward person like I'm that person and he's not that
person and I also just think like people who don't really like invest that time in themselves like
need to work on themselves you know what I mean it's kind of like they don't really care so like
what else don't they care about themselves you know I get that you you know, impression. However, you didn't see it as an opportunity to be like, oh, I can change this.
Oh, I could upgrade you.
I don't think you can teach like a guy to have pride in himself.
You know what I mean?
Like either he thinks he's awesome or he doesn't.
And I just don't think he does by the way he presents himself.
Okay.
Well, what was so, what was so bad about his clothes?
His jeans,
like, you could tell
he probably wore them,
like, for maybe
two weeks straight.
Like, you know,
the butt area
didn't look good.
It was saggy.
So, like, I don't know.
I just,
if you're going to dress up
on a first date
and, like,
your saggy,
super worn jeans
that need a wash,
like, come on.
All right.
Well, thank you
for being honest about that.
So now I should tell you
something that's truthful, too.
Aiden is actually
on the phone.
He's been listening the whole time
and he wants to talk to you.
Still?
Are you still done?
Okay.
I think so.
Hi.
Hey.
Didn't know you were there.
So you didn't like the clothes.
That was the deal breaker for you.
I mean, what is the saying?
Does the clothes say a lot about the man?
So, yeah, like for a first date, you know,
I dress a little more comfortable so that I'm more comfortable.
I can not have to worry about being stiff or not presenting myself,
you know, in a certain way that can be a little more intimidating.
I mean, I have all the
designer suits at home that you could
want, but for a first date,
I don't want to...
Yeah, I don't want to show up
in something and have
the woman be like, oh, well,
this is a little intimidating that he's wearing a
power suit to a first date.
So I try to dress a little more
casually so then I can be comfortable
and then she can be comfortable with me.
I mean, it's like unbelievable
that you have those types of things
because like you did not even go like mid-round.
It's like, you know, like you went like,
we've been dating slash married for seven years
and I don't care about this outfit.
You have like the wardrobe at home.
Like, it's a first date.
You've got to go, like, at least in between.
Like, you know.
If I'm meeting with a client, I'm not going to show up in my jeans and sneakers.
But at the same time, I didn't feel like I was meeting with a client.
I thought I was meeting, you know, on a casual first date.
I mean, if I had known that that was the type of
person you were I guess I would have dressed more that way that's not who I am when I'm not at work
all the time so I didn't want to set an impression especially a first impression would it have made
a difference to you if he was in a power suit when he showed up? I mean, yeah, like I definitely probably
would have went on like another date or
two, but then the second I found
out that like the power suit is kind of a costume
and that's not really his personality,
like it probably wouldn't have gone much further.
You know what I mean? You can go off on
what I was wearing all you like, but for someone
who claims to be fashion
forward, everything you were wearing was at
least a season ago if not more
um all right fast fashion is terrible you should look it up i like our earth a little bit so like
don't throw shade on somebody who is frugal and can still keep things fresh
there's a difference of being though past fashion and being like retro chic and you kind of fell somewhere in
the middle there that it didn't quite work I didn't but I don't judge on the superficial
things like that I was more going off of the conversation I mean if I got to be honest though
it wasn't working for me either it was a first date you know first dates sometimes go a little sideways
they're a little awkward so I thought well let's do a second date and see you know if the first
feeling is right or if it was just a matter of first date jitters let's try it Aiden Marissa
would you like to go on another date with Aiden we'll pay for it no thank you I don't know why like Aiden
like you thought like insulting me after like all that would win me over at the end but no I
mean I wasn't insulting you but I mean your fashion was kind of insulting everyone in the room
all that aside I would like a second chance if If the big issue was the clothing, I'll wear what you want me to wear.
I mean, absolutely not.
There is no outfit in the world that would make me want to go on a second date with you.
Well, all right, then good to know.
I guess I don't need to waste my data plan.
The Jubal Show on demand.
Hey, everyone.
It's Katie Couric.
Well, the election is in the homestretch,
right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question.
I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out,
like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon.
But we're also going to have some fun,
thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God.
We're going to take some viewer questions as well.
I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about?
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