First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - What does he not have that she needs?

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

First Date Follow Up is when we get an email from someone who went on a date and the other person isn't calling back. We get that other person on the phone to see why they're "ghosting".Justin is on the phone for a First Date FOllow Up and is getting ghosted by a girl named Jessica. He has reached out 3 times in the last week and has got nothing back, so now we are going to call her up and see why she is ghosting him!Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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your podcasts. The Jubal Show on demand. First date follow-up. Justin is on the phone today for. First date follow-up. Justin is on the phone today for a first date follow-up, and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Jessica. We're going to see if we can help him out. Hey, Justin, thank you for your email.

Thank you for agreeing to do the first date follow-up. How long has it been since you saw Jessica? Just over a week now. And how many times have you reached out to her in that week? I think three times. Tell us a little bit about your date with Jessica. Well, yeah, so, so it was a, it was a day date, you know, uh, we both had a free Saturday, so we decided, you know, a little bit less pressure.

So we just go out and, uh, you know, kind of get to know each other, uh, instead of, uh, you know, trying to go out to dinner for the first thing, whatever. But we decided to go to the aquarium. Just kind of walk around. You know, it's interactive. We can see stuff. We can walk and we can talk. And we're not just sitting across the table staring at each other. Yeah, that's a good date idea, too.

Yeah, I wish I could take credit for it. It wasn't my idea. Oh, it wasn't? Whose idea was it? It was a friend of mine. A friend of mine said it worked for him in the past. So he said, go for it. Yeah.

So it doesn't seem like it worked as well for you, though, because you're getting ghosted. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's see if we can help you out. Okay. So anyway, so you went to the aquarium. Yep.

She wanted to get ice cream and do some drinks. So it seemed like it was going pretty well. I thought we were having a pretty good time. So I reached out to her to say thank a great time, and I would love to set something else up for you. And she just responded a little bit later that day and just said, hey, thanks for the date. And that's it? And that was it. That was the end of the text, yeah. And then, so, like, I waited, like, another day, and I text back. I'm like, hey, no problem. Ha ha. Great time. Would love to do something else. Maybe the Zoom next time. Ha ha. And no response. And then, you know, a couple of days later, so like two days ago now, I sent one more just like, hey, just, you know, still thinking of you. If you would like to get together again sometime, just let me know. I'm free. Whatever. I'm happy to do it. But no response to either of those. We had a great time in the aquarium. I mean, we had a great conversation. We were, you know, at some points we were like, you know,

ducking around the displays and chasing each other. And, you know, it was like a field trip. You were running around the aquarium like kids. Yeah, at one point. At one point we went to a dark corner by the sea turtles and we made out a little bit. Oh, cool. All right. out a little bit. Oh. All right. Just a little bit.

Nothing crazy. Nothing that we would have been too embarrassed by if somebody caught us. But, you know, it was just a lot of fun. We both seemed like we were having some high energy. I was into her. I thought she was into me. I felt like we really clicked. Okay.

I mean, it literally, I don't know. It sounds like the perfect date to me because I love the aquarium. You guys know that. You bring me to the aquarium. It's like. The aquarium is awesome. Yeah. But for real, like something had to go wrong. Yeah.

Something. Well. Something weird had to happen because like I said, the aquarium's fun. It sounds like you guys had a great time. Are you not telling us something? Well, no, because that was all that was all great but the only thing i could think of is like you know we we went and uh we wanted to she wanted to get ice cream we went to go get ice cream uh for her afterwards and so i went up and i got it

and i didn't get anything for myself because i have a slight lactose intoleration and i was afraid that if i shared ice cream with her then I'd have to make a hasty exit at some point. I didn't want to do that, but she had been talking about it. I know she loved it and I just wanted to do whatever she wanted to do to make her happy. So I got her some and we sat down and she was eating and we were just talking while she was eating. And I don't know if she just felt weird that I didn't have anything and like, hey, eat up,

eat up. You know, I wasn't trying to make her feel awkward or out of place, but I swear that's the only thing I can think of that, I don't know,

everything else seemed like it was great. Okay. Well, we'll try to figure it out for you then. We'll play a song, come back, call her, and find out why she's ghosting you

and then maybe see if we can get you another date, okay? Sounds great. Thanks. We'll get your first date follow-up next. We're about to call Jessica and see if we can get her another date with Justin because Justin's on the phone for a first date follow-up. If you missed the first part, he told us all about his date with Jessica, and he's been getting ghosted for over a week now.

He's reached out to her three times and heard nothing. And before we make our phone calls, Jessica, hey, Justin, why don't you kind of recap the date and catch everybody up to speed? Yeah, we had a real good time, a day date at the aquarium. We had a lot of fun. We seemed to be clicking. We got along really well together.

She was like holding onto my arm. We were kind of chasing each other around the aquarium. We did share a nice kiss in the aquarium. Yeah, I thought it was going great. We went for ice cream. I got her some. I didn't have any. And I feel like that might have been the moment where she looked at me like I was some kind of jackass and decided that things might not have been so great after all.

All right. So we're going to try to figure it out for you right now. I'm going to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you. And then we'll see if we can get you another date. You ready? Cool. All right, man. Here we go.

Hello? Hi, may I speak to Jessica, please? This is she hi jessica how are you my name is jubal and i host a radio show called the jubal show and we're all here hi yeah i've actually heard of you guys before okay cool we do a segment on our show called the first date follow-up what that is is if you go out on a date with somebody and then you end up ghosting them, they can email us to get you on the phone and find out why. And you're ghosting one of our listeners and they emailed us and asked us to call you. Okay. Any idea who that might be? Um, I think it may be Justin. Well, let me see. Would it be the Justin that you went to the aquarium with? Yes. Yes, it is Justin. And we talked to him and he told us about your date. He said that he thought you guys had an amazing time, but now you're ghosting him and he doesn't know why.

We really did have a great time. I really enjoyed getting to know him and I felt like we really connected. It was a good date. Okay. So why aren't you calling Justin back? So I kind of set this rule for myself a few years ago after I had a bad dating experience that I wouldn't date anybody who didn't have a college degree. It just made some awkwardness with the guy. And so I just set that rule for myself. And then at Ice cream is when I found

out that even though Justin owns his own business, he doesn't have a college degree. And so it's been tough to not even call him back because I liked him so much, but I was also trying to stick with the rule that I had set for myself. Okay. So that's it. It just said he doesn't have a college degree. Yeah. Why do you have that standard for yourself? Yeah, so a few years ago after I graduated from college and got a really good job, I tried dating a guy who I really fell for. The problem was he was really insecure about my degree and about my job,

and it just created this horrible breakup and a tough situation. And so just kind of to protect myself, I just did not let myself date anybody who didn't have a college degree just because I didn't want to get back in that situation where the guy feels intimidated or something like that. Okay. I think that's fair.

Yeah. But you probably should have told him that. What does a college degree have to do with it? Like if you really, really like somebody. Well, and I actually have not met anybody that I liked without a college degree until Justin, which is what made it so hard because I was like, do I stick with the promise to myself and protect myself from potentially having the same issue again? Or do I let the promise go and take a chance? And so I just, it was such an ugly breakup last time.

I didn't. Because like if you liked him, he doesn't have a degree, but you are only in the market for someone with degree, be hard to stick with. Yeah. And it's definitely not like a shallow thing. I just, I've tend with the degree I have and the job I have, guys can be intimidated and I'm not an intimidating person. It's just sometimes when you're a little bit more successful and some people

die, they take it the wrong way and it just can be tough. Well, at this point I would like to tell you, Jessica, that Justin is actually on the other line has been listening this whole time and wants to talk to you. Surprise.

Hey, uh, Hey Jessica, how are you? Good. How are you? Good how are you? Alright sorry to go about it this way but I was just dying to know because like I said I just I thought we

really hit it off and you know I understand that you have this rule for yourself but you know I've had to work for myself I've had to work for myself. I've had to put myself through. I didn't get to go to college, but I've been working hard every day of my life. I don't have a degree, but now I own my business.

I think I'm in a really rock-solid position here. I've known plenty of people with degrees who are absolute morons. And, you know, a lot of people who have to build themselves up are like really, really good people. So it's your standard, but I don't know if that's a great standard to hold anyone up to. But especially since the way that, you know, I thought we got along, I think, you know, at least just play it out a little bit. Yeah, that was the tough part about liking you so much is that I did connect with you, but also at the same time, setting boundaries to protect myself from potential pain. Like it may not make sense to someone else, but for me, who's been through something like that, that's a boundary that has protected me for the last few years. And so it's hard to come off

that. I can understand that, but, you know, and I totally respect you protecting yourself, but just to let you know, again, I've been through a lot myself. I'm not insecure. I do not care about titles. I don't care about position. I'm glad you're successful, but that doesn't scare me. I mean, I want to get to know you more, but I like the you that I know. I'm not going to be scared off by a job or a position. That's not going to faze me. That's got nothing to do with how I feel about you. And, you know, again, a college degree is not going to stop someone from hurting you, breaking your heart, or just, you know, not treating you the way you deserve to be treated. And just to show that I'm not a complete idiot, I did read a study the other day, even without a college degree,

that said 79% of people with college degrees do wind up cheating on their partner. I was disappointed that it wasn't 10% less, but that's just my sense of humor. That's a lot. Victoria has a degree. What? Really? Are you serious? No, I'm not serious.

I just made that all up. It sounded pretty good, though, right? Jessica, would you give Justin another chance? Go on another date with him? We'll pay for it. No, I think I really want to. No. Dang. I thought for sure you'd say yes after that joke. All right, last stage. And this is not a joke. This is serious. Next time, I promise, we'll go somewhere where I can get some yogurt, too,

so I can actually share with you while we continue talking. And I can look into community college classes, so at least I can say I'm going to college. Oh, wow. The commitment. There you go, Jessica. A man who will go to community college for you. What do you think about that?

Okay, I think we can try another date. All right, well, congratulations, Justin. You got another date, Jessica. Oh my God, thank you, yeah. I think you'll be happy about it. Okay, thank you. The Jubal Show on demand. Hey everyone, it's Katie Couric.

Well, the election is in the homestretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show, ears edition podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews, and more. Now this is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to The Daily Show, ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decisions Decisions, the podcast where boundaries are pushed and conversations get candid. Join your favorite hosts, me, Weezy WTF, and me, Mandy B, as we dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love.

Every Monday and Wednesday, we both invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. Tune in and join in the conversation. Listen to Decisions Decisions on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.