First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Why is Ben ghosting Natalie?

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

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Get her another date. But first Natalie, how long has it been since you heard from Ben? Well, it's been a few days now Just a couple days. Are you sure you're getting ghosted? Yeah It's just like a weird vibe, you know, like I just want to know what's going on Well after a couple days, I feel like you know you're getting ghosted if you've tried to reach out to them a few times and they don't respond.

Did you try to reach out to them? I sent them a text, yeah, and I'm nothing back. So I don't know, I don't get it. So the vibe feels like it shifted somehow. Well, let's talk about your date. How did that go? How did you guys meet? I mean, it wasn't like, you know, a wild date or anything. We just like went to this cute little Italian place and it was really low key, but like vibey and I don't know,

romantic and candles and all that good stuff, you know, and conversation was awesome, which you know, isn't always the case and yeah, okay. There was like mind involved and all that, but it was good. I thought it was good. And I liked that he wasn't really trying to like impress me, you know, or anything like, it wasn't like flashy or he was just grounded and we talked about music and like, you know, wanting to travel and our favorite shows and it just felt real, you know, like good and real and he seemed real and so yeah, I'm like into him and I just, I don't know, I just felt like he was

different. He was different when you were on the date or like at a certain point he got different? No, like I feel like as a guy, as opposed to other guys. Oh, I see. As in a good thing that he was different. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like he's just like a different kind of dude, you know. Did you feel like he was vibing with you too?

I don't know. I don't know. Is there anything that happened? You know, we made out and I felt like it was good and I felt like, oh yeah, this can kind of like go somewhere. I was right outside of the restaurant, you know, it felt super perfect. So I don't know. I just, he was just like this calming presence and I've had so many dates where they're like showing off, but like, I don't know with him, it was just

different and I felt like I could really be myself and like, I don't know with him it was just different and I felt like I could really be myself and like I don't know if it would be cheesy but I felt like really seen and it doesn't hurt that he's like super hot. I mean not high. He's like really hot. Did anything happen on the date that was awkward or could be a reason that you're getting ghosted? Only thing that I can think of is like I'm so embarrassed. that I can think of is like, I'm so embarrassed.

And, well, OK, so I kind of accidentally invited him to join me on my solo trip. In Greece, how is dinner like I might have gotten like a few excited, you know, like we were talking about travel and I told him about this trip and and then like I, I, the wine was talking and I just told him to come along and like pretend We were newlyweds We should go to Greece and pretend to be married Yeah, I can see how that would you know, okay, but that feels like it also could be like oh, she's clearly had some wine This is fine. I don't know. But he made out with you after that or before that?

After, you know, and it was like a total joke. Like I was like, oh, you know, like, it would be wild kind of thing. Right. You know, like, oh, my God. I mean, why am I already doing talking about trips? I don't know. And he laughed at the time, but like, oh, he's been totally radio silent ever since. And you know, and I've texted him and like, now it's just, you know, I just been like,

oh, hope you're doing well. Like, have a great time. I'd love to see you again, but not for that. We don't have to pretend to be married anymore. Yeah. Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song, come back, and then call him and see if he'll tell us

why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date, okay? Okay. All right, we'll play a song, come back, and get your first date follow-up next. If you're just joining us for today's first date follow-up, Natalie is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Ben, so we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why she's ghosting him, Ben so we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why She's ghosting him even though we might know why not sure Natalie before we call him. Why don't you kind of recap what you told us?

You know it's a great date and I kind of maybe let the wine do some talking and told him to Come on a trip to Greece with me come on a trip to Greece with me and present to them their cases. Okay, so that might have been the thing. And I'm like, say it out loud! Oh, it's not so bad. Alright, and that's the only thing you can think of. Yeah, really, yeah, I guess, I mean, is that not enough? Yeah, Joel's reaction was great. Polarized by it.

Alright, well let's see, are you ready for us to call him? Yeah. Okay, here we go. Hi, may I speak to Ben, please? This is Ben. Hey, Ben, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, I'm Nina.

Hi, I'm Victoria. And I'm Jubal. How are you? I'm good. This is we're on and I'm Jubal. How are you? Yeah, have you ever listened to the show before Yeah Actually, I Don't know if you've heard a first-aid follow-up before but that's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then you ghost Them that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them

So that's why we're calling you today Ben. You're ghosting somebody and they're very confused. This must be Natalie, right? Yes it is, Natalie. You know that right away? Is it because she wanted to go to Greece and get married? I mean no. We talked to her and she was worried that the reason you're ghosting her might be because she made a joke about like coming to Greece with her on a trip she has planned and you

guys could pretend to be newlyweds and stuff. Is that not why? No, no. I mean I'm, I clocked that as a joke so that didn't really. Okay. Okay. That wasn't it. Do you mind telling us why you're ghosting her then?

Well, I mean, okay here's what else. We had a good time. Okay. That wasn't it. Do you mind telling us why you're ghosting her then? Well, I mean, okay, here's what else. We had a good time. Like we had a good time. Everything was cool. She's amazing. I like her a lot, but something did happen that kind of like, I just couldn't deal with it.

So that's why I ghosted her. I, all right. We were at the restaurant, the bartender, there was somebody that I had dated before. And like, I don't mean just date. I mean, like a long term date. Oh, OK. Did you know that before you went to the restaurant?

No, no, I know. I'm not insane. I'm like, that's like it's like worst case scenario for that situation. I had no idea. I didn't even know she bartended. Like, I don't understand. I don't know what's going on in her life since we broke up, but, um, we walked in and you know, me and Natalie, it was just like, boom.

And then what are you supposed to do at that point? She's there. She's serving us wine. I can't read anybody. Like, I can't read her expression, you know? So I was just, we were kind of just both pretending like we didn't know each other Which I guess is the best case scenario for that Yeah, I mean instead of her yelling at me Yeah, that's probably better It was it was awkward awkward for you guys, but that's the reason you're ghosting her

Yeah, well, I tried to be cool like, you know, like I just tried to play it off, but I was pretty I am. I was and I am convinced that Natalie figured it out. Like there's just no way she didn't because women just know these things. They just do. They always do. And I didn't want to have to on top of that explain everything. And I just didn't want to get into it. So I just needed a clean slate and I just decided to shoot yourself in the foot and get out of everything and like be all by yourself.

Basically. Yeah. I mean, it does sound like a super awkward situation, but when Natalie was texting you or whatever, did it feel like she wanted to like confront you or something? I wasn't sure. I mean, I, I think she knew, but I, I wasn't really sure what she was getting at. You know what I mean? We did make out after, you know, because just things happen. But I thought it was best to just, you know, act like it didn't happen and move on,

because it was just going to be like from square one to have to deal with an X. And then how, you know, I did or didn't handle it, it's just it's just too much. But if you thought she already knew, why don't you just say, hey, like, sorry for the awkwardness. Women are a little bit more forgiving than you think, especially with those things on a first date later, maybe not. But in the beginning. Yeah, isn't it too late at that point?

I don't think so. I mean, if she didn't like it, that would be definitely grounds for ghosting. Yeah, I don't think I handled it the best way. I kind of, I mean, I kind of panicked and just went with that decision and then it kind of felt like once I'd gone down that path, it was hard to turn back. Yeah. All right, Ben, well thank you for being honest with us. And now I have to be honest with you, Natalie is actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. Really? Yeah. Yeah, really. I do want to talk to you. Really? Yeah. Yep. Yeah, really. I do want to talk to you because I actually did pick up on that.

And I also picked up on the fact that you were using me as like a little pawn in whatever game the two of you are playing. I mean, you take the place, buddy. Like that was clear. And then once you were sending my texts, then I knew that that was the case. Yeah. Like clearly you're still sleeping with this girl and I was just there so that you could make her jealous and you were not responding to me because yeah,

you're right. I wanted to confront you and you used me in this little game. So I'm now using you in a little game. No, no radio. So you kind of lied to us, Natalie. A little bit. Yeah. OK. I mean, come on.

And then like, he was all like flirty with the bartender and they're like pretending they don't know each other. But yeah, I thought when she would like touch your hand or like rub your back as you walk by you clearly, it was like, I don't know if it's like a little sex game or whatever. No.

I'm jealous, but I don't really want to be a part of it. OK, like you're not. That is not what happened. That is not what happened. I she's the one. This person cheated on me. So it wouldn't even make sense for her to be flirting with me. It doesn't even make sense.

Okay. So it doesn't make sense that you didn't bring me there in front of her because she cheated on you and then you're like, Oh, look, I'm with a girl and like, whatever. And then they got me in front of the restaurant. Oh yeah. You met up with him in front of the restaurant. That's right.

How would I know? How would I know the schedule of people's hours? How would I even line that up? It doesn't make any sense. You know what? It was a weekend night and, you know, she's a bartender and you

know where she works. So I'm sorry, but my guess is you didn't. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know. Took a turn. Would you like another day when

Natalie will pay for it? Yes, I don't think that's a good idea. I just took a turn. Would you like another date with Natalie? We'll pay for it. Yeah. I don't think that's a good idea. I mean, with the bartender, maybe you guys can pay for that one. All right. Well, I don't know if you got an answer Natalie, but you got, you accomplished what you wanted to do. Okay.

All right. This really took a lot of turns. Yeah. Well, this is what I expected and at least I can move forward because I knew my instincts were actually right. You know what I mean? Like that getting ghosted and not knowing why that's the worst. So also when I said that Ben was different, what I meant by that is he's exactly the same as every other. Yeah, it's a crisis. I like that. Oh no! Oh no! Hey! Yeah! It's a crisis.

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I want to know what's the worst way they ever bombed or have they ever performed way too drunk or high or was there ever a time where they thought they were going to crush and they stunk it up? Listen to Bombing with Eric Andre on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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