First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Why is Chelsea ghosting Ryan?

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Ryan hit up The Jubal Show to see if we could help him find out why he's getting ghosted by Chelsea. Let's see if we can get him a second date. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing... date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! âž¡ï¸Ž Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:27 So in a few minutes we're going to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date if he still wants one. But before we do that, Ryan, what's up? How long has it been since you heard from Chelsea? Uh, it's been, I'd say probably about a week or so. Have you, how many times have you tried to reach out to her in that time? Probably about three or four times. Oh, you know, I didn't want to seem like I was a stalking, you know type so After the last time I just you know left it alone and got in contact with you guys You know to see if I could try and figure something out because you know, I don't know what I did wrong
Starting point is 00:03:00 I thought it was a great no first date. I thought we hit it off and I've just been ghosted ever since. Why don't you start by telling us about the date? Okay, so we went out, dinner, drinks, conversation, everything was was pretty good. And this came about after, you know, us connecting on hinge. Had some friends tell me some good things about him. So I figured I'd try it out. So, you know, we went on our date and then we went to a nearby park after that. How'd it go at the park?
Starting point is 00:03:34 The park went good, but I guess there were, there was something that was pretty questionable that happened at dinner. You know, we were hanging out, having a good time chatting it up. And so she got a phone call and she said she needed to take the call and she excused herself from the table and went out for this call. And the call was probably about, she was gone for about 15 to 20 minutes. I thought it was pretty important because she stepped outside of the restaurant, but she walked all the way to the corner
Starting point is 00:04:07 Or like, you know up the street a little bit and I could see from the restaurant that she was in a heated exchange like her hands were flying and I could see like the Veins popping out of her forehead and she was like yelling and screaming into the phone And I was in by this time like, you know, the food came, her food was cold. I didn't want to start eating without her. And so, you know, she comes back inside and she's like really cool, calm and collected. And I said, is everything okay? And she said, yeah, I'm just dealing with some family stuff. You know, my sister called me and,
Starting point is 00:04:42 you know, a little sibling, sibling quarrels or whatever. So. So I just said, okay. I said, well, um, do you want me to order you something else? Um, you know, I can have them send this back and we can order you a fresh one. So that way it's high. And, you know, she didn't want to eat at that point. She said, no, I'm fine. We can just, um, wrap up, you know, if you want to eat and, you know, we can go to the park. So yeah, that's kind of how the, that portion of the date went. That's the only pickup that I think of that happened. That's a pretty big hiccup. When she walks you to the park, which is a good sign because to continue after dinner, like she kept it going. Yeah, that's what I don't understand. We went to the park, you know, we had, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:26 great convo and I even got a, you know, peck in on the cheek at the end of the day. I thought it was great. And I just don't know what else happened. It's really weird. All right, well we'll see if we can figure it out for you then we'll play a song, come back and then call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you
Starting point is 00:05:43 and then maybe get you another date, all right? Thanks, sounds good, let's do it. Play a song, come back and then call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and then maybe get you another date, alright? Thanks, sounds good. Let's do it. Play a song, come back, get your first day follow up next. Is this a good time? It's me, Dylan Mulvaney and my dear friend Joe Locke from Heartstopper and Agatha All Along is my very first guest on my brand new podcast, The Dylan Hour. It's musical mayhem and it is going to be so much fun.
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Starting point is 00:07:44 If you're just joining us for today's first date follow-up, Ryan is on the phone. He's getting ghosted by Chelsea and doesn't know why so. In just a second, we're gonna call her, see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But before we do that, Ryan, why don't you catch everybody up on your situation?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, so, had a really, what I thought was a great date with Chelsea. The only hiccup that happened during the date was she had to take a phone call from, you know, an important phone call to deal with the situation, family situation, I guess. But other than that, we hit it off. Great conversation, great energy, great vibes.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Even got a peck on the cheek at the end of the night. After that, just ghost, nothing. Gone, crickets. All right, you ready for us to call her? I'm ready. Okay, here we go. (*phone ringing*) Hello?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Hi, I speak to Chelsea, please. This is Chelsea. Chelsea, hi, how are you? My name is Jubal and this is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Chelsea please? This is Chelsea. Chelsea, hi, how are you? My name is Jubel and this is a radio show. It's called The Jubel Show. Hi Chelsea, I'm Nina, also on the show. Hi and I'm Victoria.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Hi. Hello. Have you ever listened to the show before? I actually have, yeah. Oh sweet, thank you. This is pretty surprising, how cool. Really cool. Do you know why we were calling you?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Jubel. Did I win something? How cool. Really cool. Do you know why we were calling you? Useful. Did I win something? I hope I did. It's possible. It depends how much you like Ryan. You remember going on a date with Ryan? Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So this is a first date follow up. The segment where we, if you've been ghosted, you can email us so we get that person on the phone and ask why you're being ghosted and Ryan emailed us about you, so Can you tell us why you're ghosting him? The reason why I'm ghosting him is because I'm trying to dodge my ex and I honestly didn't want to scare Ryan away so my Texted me while I was on the date with Ryan and he texted, I need to see you.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And then he continued like, I tracked your phone. I'm coming to see you. Yeah. And so I went to call him to kind of defuse the situation. Cause like we've been broken up for about six months, but he's really having a hard time accepting the breakup. And so he drives by my house constantly. He like sends me still flowers to work. Oh my gosh. Wow. And so I honestly, I took the call and after that, I just had a hard time because I just don't want, I really feel like I need to get a handle on him before I bring anybody into my life and bring this drama into anybody's life. And I honestly feel bad for Ryan. Like I just don't want to bring that to him. And so
Starting point is 00:10:38 I just haven't really responded much to Ryan. You liked him though? Yeah, I liked Ryan a lot actually. It's actually kind of respectful. Like think about how many people have like ex drama and they don't even care about the new person they bring into their life. And now this new person is like collateral damage. I think that that's really cool of you. But I also think that's something you could probably tell him. I guess I could have told him.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I honestly felt like I just, it's not fair. It's not fair to bring anybody with him. He's my ex is pretty persistent, you see, you know, and I just don't want to put him in any dangerous situation. Oh, wow. You think he's like dangerous? Well, I mean, I don't know about how he will be confrontational. Okay, Well, I mean, I don't know about how he would be confrontational. Okay. If he sees me with another guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And so that hasn't happened yet. So I don't know. Well, if you think about it this way though, your ex is still controlling you because you're not dating people you want to date. Pretty much. Yeah, that's true. I didn't even think about that. In my opinion, that's pretty unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But like, how do you handle how do you handle that? I don't even think about that. Yeah, in my opinion that's pretty unacceptable. But like how do you handle that? I don't know. I am really trying hard to just be civilized and talk to him and just try to calm him down and just let him know that I'm not interested anymore and it's just been really hard. Well, I have a couple ideas for you but I'll get to those in a second. First, I'm going to let you know that Ryan is actually on the other line and has been listening and wants to talk to you. Yes. Hi Ryan.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Hey Chelsea, how are you? I'm good and you? I'm so sorry. I honestly did not mean to go through you. I just, it's just been really stressful. I mean I'm so happy to hear your voice. I'm sorry to put you on the radio and put you on the spot like this, but I didn't know what else to do. And I needed some closure. I needed to know. I just really thought there was a connection there.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And so yeah, I'm happy to hear that it wasn't me. No, you didn't do anything wrong. You were so sweet. I felt like we really had a connection and it's been so hard for me. It's been really heavy because I just honestly don't want to put you in any weird situation. You know, I don't think it will be fair. There are a couple of questions. Are you completely, are you still attached emotionally?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Like, you know, do you still have feelings for him? No, I don't have feelings for him and it's been six months. Yeah, absolutely not. Chelsea, I have a question for you. Why do you still talk to him? I don't know. I'm just... Do you feel bad?
Starting point is 00:13:21 I'm like that. I feel bad for him. I know he's suffering Care about yourself. You're done with the relationship with him You don't need to talk to him unless you have like a kid or something you have to talk to him You don't need to feel bad for him feel bad for yourself You're not able to date Ryan and you want to date Ryan and you're letting your ex Control how that issue goes because you're worried about your ex worry about yourself get it girl You should get it girl. You should also make sure that your man
Starting point is 00:13:51 like has some type of restraining order if he really does keep popping up in random places because that is not okay. Yeah, if it's super bad, you should do that for real. Yeah, I mean, I haven't really stopped fully the communication that I could definitely block him. I just felt so bad for him because I thought he's just really suffering and I just don't, I mean I hated having to break up the relationship but I really don't have any feelings for him.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Believe me, it's hard to not talk to somebody who's persistent. But you ghosted Ryan, you can ghost again. This life coaching right now is just, you know, accurate. That's true. I'm sorry, Ryan. You can tell she's so empathetic too, which is a great quality Chelsea, but Jubal's right. Would you like to go on another date with Ryan? We'll pay for it. I would love to.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I am really like Ryan. What else you got life coach? Would you like to go on another date with Ryan? We'll pay for it. I would love to. I am really like Ryan What else you got life? Just get it girl. That's all i'm saying That's my only advice Thank you. I really want to say thank you guys. Um so much for Getting us back together here and so that we can continue on and chelsea. worry. I, you know, I'm a big boy. I can hold my own.
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